Three Chief's Fans Found Dead at Alleged Suspect's House (the "Chemist") | Criminal Lawyer Reacts 

He could also use a lawyer who doesn't go on TV and give one story after another that all contradict the prior story. The man finally sat his arse down. Bruce would definitely be better than his lawyer

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And he can wear Step One boxer briefs through his trial to keep his undercarriage free of chafing and his huevos cradled.

Also having a weird Mum DOES build character 😂🤟🏻

he couldn't afford him

Ya maybe not that either if you are an alcoholic &/or violent drunk-which so many are.

​@@JasonSmith-pe5pyand maybe not that if your a violent sober

A great BR quote. 👏😂

All three had names with "on" as last syllable.

💯%those men were too old for such wrecklessness. Sad!

May his soul rest in peace.

My condolences on your loss, that's awful. He was so brave trying to save his Grandma's life. My old school friend passed from heroin, it's a scary but such a common drug. 😔 May your good memories of your son outweigh the grief. He is at peace now. ❤🙏🏼 *edited to fix auto correct spelling

@@NicolaMaxwell Dumbdumb, heroine is a female hero.

@@RollingRoadEFI That's what you pick up on in a message to a woman who lost her son... But you're wrong, a heroine is actually a woman who's admired for many things, from Greek mythology to just today's definition. You're thinking only in comic books, you're rude and you've messaged me twice on two different threads. Not interested, muted you so more attempts to engage won't be seen...

@@NicolaMaxwell Did you really just Google it? Lol. Notice, synonym: Hero. Bahahahahahahahahahahaha

She will never unsee it😢

They did drugs, it's on them. I took those risk, if I had died it would have been my fault. And I don't buy the coke angle, they where doing fetty on purpose.

😂😂. Ppl get high, these 3 adult dopes bought the drugs and took them!! They died , there own fault.. stop with 😂the victim pathetic script

I personally do not believe that girl at all, and it is possible that one of the deceased could of very well purchased and brought their own substance to go over chill out at Jordans,

​​@@jamie.777 Yeah, they were stupid enough to do the drugs. But I still think the chemist deserves the harshest punishment he can get. He done fucked up...Sad that he threw his life, education and his important job right down the toilet. As did the 3 guys. The 3 men's families probably didn't know they used drugs, so my heart goes out them. The gf-I don't know if she knew her fiance used. But either way, it is heart breaking that she was the one that found him.

IKR, she's a firecracker! Lol

I want a compilation of all the e-sign grandma stories. She's a badass MF who knows not to self snitch.

She should write a book. She's got lots of great stories.

Never know what Grandma Rivers is up to. No wonder she's in the basement. No nursing home could handle her.

yeah but her grandson got a loose mouth @@BrickNewton

Yes, well said. Especially about the "sensational garbage" 👍

Only sensational thing is uncle Bruce’s cuff links

@@intothemindshaft😂😂😂

The sensational bond between him and his son, also his wild grandmother 👵

I have 2 criminal justice degrees and teach speech classes.

Congratulations! 🤗. . The hardest habit I've had to quit is cigs. I can only TRY TO imagine how much harder it would be to kick hard drugs. Sheesh! So...yeah...good job! 🤗

@@Anabee3 good for you, that’s a hard habit to quit and definitely something to be proud of. Honestly getting off heroin and opioids was tough but not the hardest thing that I have done and I wish I would have known this beforehand because I may have gotten off drugs much sooner than I did. I was always so scared of the withdrawal and getting sick to be willing to try to quit, but once I actually asked for real help from professionals, and they were able to monitor my symptoms and keep an eye on my progress and make sure that I was safe, that I was able to deal with the sickness and withdrawals and make it through to the other side. Just wish my younger brother was able to get the same help as I did but unfortunately he passed away 6 years ago. Thank you for your kind words, I truly appreciate them.

@@shutthefrontdoor733 OH MY GOSH!! You have endured SO SO MUCH HARSHNESS (& that's just what I know of!) I have so many thoughts r.n. but I feel like I've alrdy pryed/intruded too much. If I can just say tho, that I instantly imagined you desperately on your knees "BUT THERE'S WAY!! I KNOW A WAY! I WOULD HAVE HELD MY BROTHERS HAND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY!!" Manoman. God must surely have his hand on you.

@@Anabee3 pry away, for I am no longer ashamed of what I once was and talking to others and telling my story is actually therapeutic for me in a way because if I can help just one person, then it was all worth it. I have learned that life isn’t fair and dwelling on the past or things we cannot change is bad for your mind and not worth your time anymore. It has shaped you into who you are today, and if you don’t like the person you are now, the great thing is you can change! It’s never too late to try.

Congratulations! You’re a few months away from a DECADE of hard work and true self love. You’re experiencing life after darkness and an inspiration that many need right now. I don’t know you personally and yet I’m still damn proud of you, I hope you’re proud of all your dedication to yourself and loved ones.

He was knocked out on fetty

Funny how that works, eh?

@@Steve-ev6vx yes but I think someone else was there trying to make contact very shortly before police so I think the comment is saying it's a bit odd how in such a short window of time things changed

He took the same drugs they did. He just happened to pass out, outside. It saved him. The 5th friend who took off at midnight, I'd suspect 1 of 2 scenarios. 1. He doesn't do drugs, so they didn't bust out the coca until after he left. Which explains why they didn't OD earlier in the night. Or, 2. He's the drug dealer.

That's a good point. The others probably went outside for a smoke. And never came back in...

Exactly.

@@heidevanness2788 i had something slipped into my drink once and didn't wake up for 3 days. How i survived i've no clue yet am thankful.

100%

Bingo

It’s always sad. A waste of potential. A loss for all of the families, that will haunt them forever. It always does. There’s always someone important missing from events. Nothing is ever the same. Very sad.

Fking fentanyl ruined it for everyone. I have absolutely no problem with recreational use. I’m not even as mad at the “chemist” as most people. Those men chose to partake in what is now a WILDLY reckless act. I can pass some judgment by understanding from their loved ones prospective. My closest friend at the time was found dead by his granny (he called her that)… I didn’t and still don’t know who to be mad at. I’ve overdosed a few good times, but I can’t imagine blaming the person I made the exchange with. It just seems like once the person is no longer with us to accept responsibility, we all move to the next in line and hammer them with no mercy. It’s an outlet for emotions. I made my decisions, and so did my best friend. However, this is the EXACT reason I have not ever wanted to sell/give drugs to anyone. In the eyes of the people/law, you did this to them, and the only people speaking for the dead are biased friends and family. I’ve lived multiple angles of this scenario.

Addiction is no discriminator to age, race, creed, background, education, or anything else. It will take anyone down to the depths of hell.

Dont do drugs mmmmkay

@@alchapwnexactly don’t do the drugs. It’s like they want to make them out to be so innocent in this. They chose as adults to do illegal drugs

Of course. A totally reasonable use of that knowledge. Pharma is big money. Legal drugs. Explosives are useful for all kinds of things. From mining to weapons. Plus other things adjacent to those. Supplying the desired molecules in the purities necessary to use in food or manufacture of goods. Now Agriculture? 100% drugs. And using chemistry to extract, distill, and process the desired molecules.

Totally respect ur comment..because we all know it's true..

When I was a Chem major, work-study student in the dept office, one of my peers....an 'A' student in Advanced Oganic Synthesis, was arrested for "synthesizing" & selling acid.

😂😂😂 💣💥🧨💉💊😳

So which one are you

Not really. Typical fetty story, this one just made the news. Most aren't even investigated.

Yep tons of people die everyday from it. Its getting even worse with tranq dope thats coming out now. xylazine is a nasty drug it causes vasoconstriction so bad that people are getting necrotic holes in their arms and shit. Not to mention the fent analoges running around that are like 30x more potent. Its a goood time to be out of that game. @@Steve-ev6vx

You live a very sheltered life with low education then. I’m 50, travelling life long surfer around the darkest remote corners of the worldTHEN I worked for an airline another 17yrs. I have travelled more than most celebrities. Been to el sal NICA INDO Europe AUS etc. this is damn game of a story. Free jordan Willis!! Raise self accountability and stop blaming other grown men for other grown men’s decisions! Doesn’t matter who did bought sold or what. You think the ‘chemist’ grew the poppy plants and cocoa leaves and ground his own paste? Give me a break. STOP RUINING GOOD MENS LIVES FOR LAME MENS CHOICES. If anyone’s life needs to be saved it’s the chemist working on AIDS vaccines!! HOW STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE. Save the chemist, his life was worth more anyways!

It’s all too common, I’m afraid. What makes this story notable is the suspect was a professional biochemist who put his skills to use for nefarious purposes. It’s not far from the fictional saga of Walter White. It’s really not any more sordid than a “normal” tragic tale of drug overdose, but the suspect makes it interesting.

Not really it's just jordan lying giving bullshit story to the cops

That would be a defense in a civil case, but not a criminal case.

Good thought but like Bruce says, if he defends you he charges a shit load of money.

@@66lwmorgan Very true. 🤔

This is what I was wondering, maybe they continue to do more and more after he passed out? I also think they probably bought it on the street. Doesn't seem like a chemist would create a drug strong enough to kill on purpose

@@CC12398 I really don’t think it was on purpose. I sure hope not.

@moongoddess8568 no matter what, it certainly no doubt was not on purpose, but I'm not convinced he actually made it..

@@CC12398 Everyone makes mistakes. It just so happens if your creating drugs in a homemade lab your mistakes might kill people.

I mean this guy sounds like a weirdo but it doesn’t take a PHD egomaniac fake pharmacist to get tricked into taking something that can kill you.

That was actually the next weekend. This happened Jan 7th where the high was mid 40’s and low was mid 30’s… the following weekend was the frigid storm. It didn’t snow until Jan 9th which was 2 days after they had sadly died.

Wrong week. You’re thinking of 7 days later.

January Sunday +1°−2° 8 January Monday 0°−3° 9 January Tuesday +1°−3° This is what I copied after I googled the weather in Kansas City on Jan 7. I thought I remembered the news report mentioning about how cold it was.

I was working in a house in the same neighborhood that this happened. It was sub-zero temps. I had to use a hot air gun to thaw my wet-saw every morning. People I know carry fentynl test kits because its so shady out here and they can't trust what they think they have.

@@delishalishNot not be insensitive but apparently it took quite a bit of time to thaw them. I’m almost positive that there was snow was on the ground too.

Why the hell would they be sitting outside in the first place?

@@thebluehotel426 trying to go home, but not having much luck even getting the car started

And Blizzard conditions our winters get so bad anymore -25 wind-chill will mess someone up

Still aint shit compared

@@bend8353compared to what? that’s still not viable for life for extended time. that’s like saying the knife that stabbed someone ain’t shit compared to the sharper knife that stabbed someone else; both are deadly.

​@@bend8353the argument could be made that being unusual, the weather was even more deadly.

I thought I heard the weather was very cold. Wasn't there even some snow on the ground?

IKR? Even Bruce calls her "sketchy". 🤣🤣🤣

😂😂🤣❤️

He stole that line. Tom Nash stock channel had the uncle story for years. There’s other lawyer channels did it years ago. Bruce is colying

But yet is still driving it somehow 🤣

@@hoopslaa5235it works doesn’t it?

KCPD chief has a history of saying that they have no reason to suspect foul play at this time. Doesn’t mean that they don’t, it just means that’s the narrative they’re giving the TV crews. He could very well change his tune later if, as he says, “more information has come to light.”😂

That was just misdirection...psy-ops

Sure looked that way!

For sure, but these guys had full access to a safe and warm house plus their own cars sitting in the driveway. They weren't restrained or forced to be outside and it wasn't SO cold they couldn't save themselves by walking a few feet. It was pretty obvious drugs were involved.

They didn’t die from freezing. It was drugs laced with fentanyl!!!!!

Why? He just literally runs with the safest most generic mainstream narrative possible.

​@@BigMacOrange What is the "narrative" here...?

​@@BigMacOrange let me guess, you think he's afraid of 'cancel culture'?

The boss 😆

@@BigMacOrange if you feel that way why do you show up to comment? seems like you could use your time better than that.

I 2nd that

Jennifer Crumbley has a sentencing date of April 9, 2024 at 9am. James Crumbley goes on trial the beginning of March 2024.

Evidence fhat theres wwaayy more to this story

Dudes usually do compliment other dudes beards

I agree about his beard. Bruce looks very handsome and elegant with his beard.

It’s funny because my boyfriend constantly has other men complimenting his mustache every time we go out 😂

Clothes are very important. Most people don’t understand this. My son found a job partially because he wore a shirt and tie to a temporary gig. Worked for them 10 years.

The brother sounded like he was deflecting. I bet he was the original dealer.

@@Steve-ev6vx weak troll is weak

Was waiting for it

Michael 😂is nothing, his idea 💡 is 2 week old news . Michael failed the bar exam, relegated to Bruce's towel boy 😂😂

@@jamie.777 you seem upset online over nothing at all. you okay? need help?

@@JustMe-fo4ev 🤫Shhh... Don't feed the troll. Probabably just upset he's in his mom's basement (just like grandma Rivers).

Very true

Accidental overdose.

It's not a homicide. These are happening everyday and this is only getting media attention for some dumb reasons.

Bad doser of Fentanyl? Not into metric system?

5:38 so they need to start investigating these scientist lol and people keep wondering where all these drugs are coming from cause they’re making them

Had a group of Irish girls with us....they'd brought their bikinis....no word of a lie....they were a wee bit shocked.

Agreed. And that’s coming from someone who lost a brother to an OD and I’ve come damn close myself enough times. “Read the directions before you show up to the party.”

Yeh I agree to but at the same time fent is killing. A lot of people and they’re hoping it will deter dealers from selling the stuff even though it isn’t - like at all

Me too 😅

That is his Irishness

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I think he was thinking of Charlie Sheen LOL

I was thinking The Dude from The Big Lebowski ... except he would've opened the door with a glass of white Russian

Whoa😮

As a dolphins fan... it was brutal

I can concur..I leave close to KC and I couldn't believe how cold it was and that people were even outside doing anything!@@Gradymeister

Can you help me understand your comment better? I'm naive when it comes to drugs. Are the dealers "putting it in everything" knowing that those who buy it will die, or are they trying to make the "high" better? If no one can trust the fentanyl market, why are dealers messing with it at all? Thanks for any input!

That might be the chemist's defense

​@@mchammer1836but why let 3 dead guys sit in your backyard for days instead of calling the cops

@@Poatan.chama. Because the Chemist didn't know they were there? Possibly because he was so caught up in his drug addiction.

I wonder if they smoke a laced blunt outside. Maybe the cops found it, and that's why it's "100%" not a homicide investigation.

No, that's a torts concept, not a criminal law concept. It may (or may not) be a defense if he's sued, but it's not a defense with respect to the criminal charges. If something is illegal, that a victim permitted it isn't a defense.

I agree but quality control is responsibility of supplier

Exactly. So glad other people like you can see that.

That might have a small impact at sentencing, but it’s irrelevant to the law with which he’ll likely be charged. Even if they froze to death rather than dying from overdose, he’ll still be on the hook if he supplied them with illegal narcotics.

I’m not disagreeing with you, I do agree but that doesn’t mean it’s a LAZY LAW. Gives cops and detectives a very quick fast route to hero status. I call them lazy heros. The law doesn’t think down the line of chain of custody of the deals and sales. They stop at the first next person and call it a day and wrap it up. That damn irresponsible and lazy and selfish to quickly grab the hero status. Jordan Willis did not grow the cocoa leaves and grind the paste to make coke and didn’t mix or buy precursor chemicals to mae fentanyl and then poorly cross contaminated them. That was done many of hands down the line of chain of custody of the drug sales. Such lame pathetic weak lazy hero status grabbing barely GED educated cops. Makes me soo angry hearing these lame cops try to claim they solves something when they didn’t even do anything, truly. They didn’t come close to finding who’s got the ‘raw’ and who’s truly cross contaminated

Well it's 2024, Americans are victims and pusssies. We can't ever be held accountable for putting drugs in our own bodies

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Snitch? 😂 That guy's looks and sounds like an addict too.

Stop calling people who use drugs "junkies." So gross.

They were in their underwear😊?

​@@caseyw.6550sounds like you might be a junkie.

I know, this commentor is retahhded and conflating and mixing up 5 different details. None of the guys outside were in their underwear. They had their full jackets on and all. Only the guy jordan that loved answered the door to the cops in his underwear 2 days later when they did a check up looking for the missing guys. And finally how does a fiancé not know the soon to be hisband is a partier? . You get to marriage stage and still don’t know your partner does drugs? Highly doubt that but it’s typical the average bumbling idiot of the masses are dumb and lazy thinkers. Jordan Willis did not grow the coca leaves to make coke or grind the paste, he didn’t buy and mix precise chemicals to make fentanyl. That interview with cousin saying chemist was just an exaggeration of his job making it sound like he actually makes up these cocktails of narcos. Stop people, use your brains a second, there is a chain of custody of deals and sales down the line or middle men and dealers . It’s damn lazy hero syndrome of cops blaming the first person back in line in the chain of sales and close the case and call themselves hero’s. It’s pretty lazy and irresponsible of this or any cops that don’t do further research back about who’s cross contaminating the 2 different drugs. LASY HEROS WUICK TO CLOSE THE CASE. Grow up people, and SAVE JORDAN WILLIS!! The guy is a aids vaccine researcher!! For christs sake!! Get him rehab and no jail no probation nothing and get him back in a lab during disease and virus’s!!! He’s the most educated and smart and worthy and worthwhile human of anyone in the story! SAVE JORDAN - FREE JORDAN!

​@caseyw.6550 Are offended by 'ice cream junkie"? The word is descriptive of an addict.

What that relative ISN’T telling you is that it has been reported that his cousin holds a current pharmaceutical license. 😮

​@@alohaannie5076Dang.

Also David was arrested in Colorado in 2011 for Schedule 2 Drugs Which is Opioids.

That relative is a pathological liar, and highly likly to have been awake at lease 24 hours. You can tell by the vague details, mannerisms, jerky motions, scattered speech, etc.

your bar is very low. he should have been reporting his relative for taking drugs from an alleged chemist and not shou5ing "bro".

Many people care when a homeless guy dies under a bridge. There are many programs to help the homeless. In this case we're talking about three young contributing members of society. Completely different story, no comparison.

Really?! I grew up in Plattsburg and eventually lived on Quality Hill while I did college and clinicals in North KC for a few years. Nothing surprises me from people in KC or the surrounding areas. Nothing.

Whoa😢

😂😅 Windshield

'innocent'

Explain

@@kswn they willingly took the drugs knowing the possible outcomes. Are we as adults not to be responsible for our own actions?

ANYTHING with fetanol in it is definitely LIFE THREATENING..NOT TO BE MESSED WITH PEOPLE!@@erickillian3349

It feels like warfare. Terrible. Seriously, just say no.

Everyone I know that died was doing it on purpose

The fact that they had three different drugs in their system is what’s odd to me. I doubt that anyone would decide to take three different drugs at once. It does seem like it was mixed up.

They likely had some fent and coke mixed in drink. Say beers. Then they were smoking pot laced with fent. they got off the street. It literally acted like an anesthetic drug and put them to sleep like you would go into a coma like state for surgery. you cannot move. you aren't aware you're cold. can't shiver. can't go inside. they got hypothermia from cool temps and possibly even cardiac issues and died. They wanted to chill out, and overdosed.

Likely fent and c0ke was used possibly mixed with drinking beer. They may have smoked fent laced p0t off the street. It was too much. 0D like...the combo acts like anesthetic and like coma. Like surgery. When you can't move or shiver or feel anything. They basically went into an 0D induced coma, they weren't able to shiver or realize they were cold and needed to get inside where it was warm and unalived. It may have even caused a cardiac issue or their lungs filled with fluid unable to breathe. It will all come out...

@@moongoddess8568I have over 7 different drugs in my system right now, benzos, opioids, amphetamine, pregabalin, thc, ketamine.. sooo.. not that uncommon, unfortunately

@@moongoddess8568 wrong. Recovering addict here and I had those three substances in my system just about everyday when I was using, and all three where on purpose. Most addicts are using fetty and meth. You have to take the uppers to be able to stay awake and enjoy the fetty..

I CAN SEE IF HE WAS USING How IT CAN HAPPEN, DID ENOUGH PILLS YRS AGO ,YOUR ASS CAN BE OUT THE LOOP FOR 2 DAYS EASY , BATHROOM BED

Absolutely correct! Subzero temps in Northern Indiana that weekend!

@@cassandrawright-mq5kp and today we had 60° ! craziest winter yet I shoveled snow 2-3 days all winter- I never know what to expect

@@poorthing I know, right! Same over here, today. Even trimmed bushes in front yard...but hang on. Weather guys predicting cold returning beginning Monday, possibly "Arctic temps for The Great Lakes area in mid to late Feb!" Geesh, don't put away that snowshovel, yet!

@@cassandrawright-mq5kp stay safe! I'm in Porter County, close to beautiful Lake Michigan

@@poorthing you too! St. Joe, here. Either way, we're both in 'White Out' conditions!

I'm just here to check up on grandma.

What would we do if Grandma was suddenly no longer mentioned? Sus

Gramma is the boss. 💪🏻

Does he really have a grandma alive ? His grandma or his sons ?

Anyone of the men involved could have supplied the drugs. "The Chemist" is being tried in the court of public opinion.