Throwback Breakdown: Atlantis the Lost Empire- Better Than You Remember 

Come on, Savage Books, do Mask of the Phantasm next! One of the darkest, most mature "children's" movies, hands down. It's practically made for a Throwback Breakdown!

Awesome entry! I think you mentioned doing sinbad legend of the 7 seas that another personal favorite of mine

Ferngully the Last Rainforest Or A Goofy Movie (which came out during the Disney Renaissance but is constantly forgotten about)

This was great! Digimon tamers would be nice to see next!

@@aquamelody8 DigiModify!

Hollywood keeps treating children like mentally handicapped people recently. It's frankly insulting, to all human beings

Hit the nail on the head.

EXACTLY!!!

Very well put ✌️

I could watch that movie hundreds of times as a kid because of that awesome steampunk submarine, let alone the rest of the awesome stuff in the movie. And years later that REALLY hasn't changed XD

I watched this movie in theaters when I was 9 Years old, there is yet to come a sequence in any movie as awesome as the first appearance of the Leviathan. The loud deep sounds, the silence, the tension that was built! And it was double awesome because as a kid that was a big fan of giant robots (Transformers, Power Rangers, etc) seeing the Leviathan as being a machine was just great.

@@NFDave1992 Preach it! I also loved as a kid, and still do, the giant spherical ether being. It is a mix of technology, magic, being alive but lack of apparent individuality. It's just an awesome concept and is, quite literally, the heart of Atlantis. Quick note: love the fish like vehicles. More points for shooting lasers!

I watched this movie so many times during 2nd grade, the dvd broke.

It was probably boring to the parents that went with the kids.

The recurring meme of the quarantine.

I really liked Vinny's: "hey milo, got anything sportier? like a tuna?" I laugh every time.

@@natebeal18 "Hey look, I built a bridge. It took like ten seconds. Twenty tops."

"It was like a spark from God, I found myself that boom." Vincenzo Santorini

"If I ever hear the word 'Atlantis' again, I'll step infront of a bus!"

i feel she wasn't redeemed at all. the only reason she shot that flare was to F-over Roark and the reason behind that was roarke tried to F her over first. yes helga had reservations because they originally were sent to what was thought to be a dead city with no human life filled with lost treasure and an ancient power source. the fact that there was a not so small living populace still living effectively changed the goal from recovering artifacts to stealing them and even bigger implications of effectively committing a genocide. she had reservations yes but at the end of the day helga is out for herself and only herself. she didn't come here just to leave empty handed thus she worked with Roark with a promise of a percentage of profit.

@@dawnseeker176 Well plus there's the line "Commander. There were not supposed to be people down here. This changes everything." But she goes along with it not only for money but also likely fearful that Rourke would kill her if she did anything.

And everyone is forgetting our queen Kida for those Disneyprincess lists :/

She isn't an official Disney Princess. She's a princess in a Disney movie

I would argue Ariel became a queen when she married Eric. However, since it was never clarified, that’s up to interpretation.

Franka she should be as she fits the bill sans an animal sidekick. She’s also much more concerned for her home and has no real song to sing either. However because her film didn’t do well and was so different from most of Disney’s previous offerings they left her out

@@zooemperor3954 Triton was still king, and Eric was still going by the title of Prince (implying either one of his parents was still alive, or there was a regent). So, at the time of the marriage, she was still Princess Ariel on both fronts.

yes the adventure itself was already impressive but when they discover the city still thriving, a moral dilemma arises.

It talk about stuff that Indiana Jones didnt discuss.

I liked it because of my interest in Linguistics.

Same here

@@buttercupcoffee5972 I think Indiana Jones discussed that theme pretty well though... "Don't fuck with artifacts and ancients ruins or else you'll melt, explode, age and die within seconds, have your heart ripped out, and get abducted by aliens" bahahaha

I liked it. I was 19. Certainly couldn't get attached to it like a child but I liked it.

You just summed up the entire attitude towards animation, especially children's animation held by narrow minded adults and studio executives. It's infuriating to see great stories not given a fair shot because they don't fit a particular mold or brand.

Well, Milo basically IS Danny from SG (or is that other way around?). In the beggining, he wants to present new and unconventional theory (Atlantis/pyramids are landing pods), is laughed at, goes home in the evening, founds out someone broke in. That someone is woman, who believes him (because she has evidence for it (shepherds journal/stargate)) and offers him job at secret project, where he would get the chance to prove his theories, because they need his expertise to complete the last few steps (decoding the journal/stargate symbols), which he does. He than travels to another world (Atlantis/Abydos), where he falls in love with the local chiefs daughter. The people living in that place are in danger of some sort (Rourke/Ra), which he helps them from. Then, while others go home, where they lie that about what they saw to maintain status quo (no Atlantis/Abydos blown up), he stays and marries the chiefs daughter.

@@veronikamajerova4564 Don't forget that their grandfather's were both archeological adventurers.

But also, Characters like Milo paved the way for geekier characters to be in the spotlight more. Macgyver is cited as the most important in doing this, the ultimate intermediary between brain and brawn, fighting with both fists and wits. But I like to think that characters well after it'd be established that our heroes could have brains and that was cool, characters like Milo could still help promote protagonist flexibility and nuance. Fun fact, in an episode of Macgyver where he was taking part in a high school mentorship program, Richard Dean Anderson and Christopher Judge played opposite together. My mom and I had our minds blown that they had met each other before SG1.

@@veronikamajerova4564 But yeah... Especially Season 1 Daniel... Very similar to Milo. Though I think the first season came out before Disney's Atlantis did... They said '01, after all.

I can’t stand musicals tbh I still liked Aladdin and lion king sure, but I love that Atlantis movie but idk if I ever saw it fully as a kid, parts of it, I even had the little crystal necklace thing, wish I had it on VHS back then.

Who wouldn't?

I straight up would pretend to be kida as a kid because I had a pool and thought that was close enough to floating in the air under a magic trance. Lol

She is one of my favorite Disney Characters. Her passion and empathy and bad ass self overall is admirable!

Kida was a well written character as well, which I respect more than what the character actually does. Unfortunately many of Disney’s writers seem to have forgotten how to do this.

Kida was my childhood benchmark for beautiful animated characters. Until I started watching anime, nobody even came close to measuring up.

Note that James Newton Howard, NOT Alan Menken, was involved. Alan is more of a musical-style cartoon composer while JNH went full ballistic with epic-style feature film writing in there.

Let's get Sideways in on that!

Bum bada bum bum bum bad BUM

I just rewatched it and its way worse than i remembered. I mean: Wow. Suspension of Disbelieve is forced way too hard in your face and the Plot Holes are ridiculous. Its to the point where the whole movie basically makes no sense at all; which is very bad.

@@loturzelrestaurant I mean humans have had suspense disbelief since the Bronze Age until now and I don’t notice any plot holes that your talking about but like the guy said in the video “there is no such thing as a perfect movie” and you also have to remember some things were cut out because of cost or other factors. But I’d love to hear more of your thoughts and have a thoughtful discussion.

It totally is. Disney was ready to move on to a different style of storytelling and narrative, yet the audience and critics weren't just yet. If the movie was separated from those broadway style ones that came the previous decade, it would have done much better, but alas it didn't. But the movie is far from mediocre and has a devoted fan base to it. I saw it as a young teen and loved it back in 2001 when it came out. A great movie that can be enjoyed by anyone.

Imo, same could be said about Pocahontas. I know it’s definitely not the best movie for Native American representation, but looking at it as a historical FICTIONAL movie like Anastasia, Disney actually put a lot of research and effort into depicting the Powhatan tribe as accurately as they could, including Pocahontas’s dress and some of the language spoken, despite most of it is lost to time unfortunately. But yes, Atlantis had a TON of effort put into it, including a completely speakable and writable language you can actually learn! It’s really sad how this movie didn’t get a lot of promotion or marketing at the time and unfortunately was a flop. I even remember seeing one of the ads on a different Disney movie (maybe Lilo and Stitch) and thought it looked so epic!

I just rewatched it and its way worse than i remembered. I mean: Wow. Suspension of Disbelieve is forced way too hard in your face and the Plot Holes are ridiculous. Its to the point where the whole movie basically makes no sense at all; which is very bad.

@@loturzelrestaurant wait a minute did you just copy and paste this from another comment thread? Huh weird.

@@loturzelrestaurant same

While im sure the story could have been extended, for me this is a perfect movie, like every moment is pure bliss

It's a really good instance of doing basic character tropes or even cliches so well that you don't even notice the trope/cliche

The characters from our world, the Atlanteans? Well there was a king and then there was a princess. I can't recall either of them particularly well and no one except them.

We are all gonna die

i totally agree. i tend to forget characters of a movie after not watching the movie for a long time, but not atlantis. it's been 3 years since i last watched it and i can still clearly remember their voices, mannerism, vocabulary, and even their lines. atlantis really has the best group of characters.

Great attention to detail this film

Another small detail was when Rourke said “nice pictures” when referring to the book which could be a smoking gun of him taking the missing page with its “nice picture”.

also just the name of the submarine can be seen as either it being named after the person with the most famous sea-faring story or the it being named after still the same person but in the context that he came up with the best trick to destroy an entire civilization very good foreshadowing in this movie overall

Replying to that statement about alienating Milo from the rest of the crew: all of that was undone by Dr. Sweet. Sweet was the first person in the crew who was actually nice to him, even if it seemed a little alarming at the time. He was the one who invited Milo to sit with the crew. He was the first one to open up to Milo and he encouraged others to do the same (except for Mole). He was also the first person to leave the group after Rourke tortured the king. He did all of this simply because he is a fundamentally good person and that is rad as heck.

The Star in the Middle City would have been a killer title.

my theory is that, like with several other lackluster sequels, it was just a storyboard for a series that was looked at poorly. So instead of greenlighting the first 3 episodes, they greenlit the entire plot mashed into 1 movie, and it sucked instead.

Atlantis: The Lost Empire has no sequel. No, I said it has no sequel. Listen to me: *_The sequel does not exist_*

I don't care what anyone says negative about Treasure Planet. I love that movie more than any other Disney movie.

Both movies are honestly the best Disney movies!

I love Treasure Planet. Atlantis was boring to me. (+)

I love both those movies

The holy trinity of great animated movies: Treasure Planet Atlantis Titan AE

I want to read the script! I loved this movie growing up, knowing they cut that much is crazy!

Children will lap up any old trash. Its the parents you gotta convince.

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 yup.

IRONY

absolutely. kids aren't near as dumb as creators think

"We design the films to appeal to ourselves." "The adults have the money.... children don't have any money." - Walt Disney ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-94ucLkGoI1E.html

I just rewatched it and its way worse than i remembered. I mean: Wow. Suspension of Disbelieve is forced way too hard in your face and the Plot Holes are ridiculous. Its to the point where the whole movie basically makes no sense at all; which is very bad.

@@loturzelrestaurant Thats because it was a "pilot movie" Disney had a few of these. Basically they would greenlight three episodes of a tv series and if it didn't pass standards, they would just package them into a loosely connected story and sell it as a sequel.

@@cole4783 Team Atlantis was gonna have a crossover with Gargoyles also

If Milo isnt slightly on the spectrum I'll be VERY surprised.

I’m sorry that you went through what you did as a child, but I’m glad you found a character like Milo. 😀

It’s still one of my favorites aswell as a kid i was also bullied and pushed away by others but the mix of relatableness and just general storyline interesting me alot.. i adored audrey because she was the way i wanted to be myself.. i also loved the bomb dude (i don’t remember his name because i’m horrible at names) but he was so funny to me in a way the characters were a perfect mix of relatableness and just general look uppedness towards them.. now i’ve always been a huuge disney fan (still am) as a kid however i was one of the few kids who watched basically any movie no matter if it was a princess movie animal movie or out of the box kind of movie.. i actually liked atlantis because it was more intricate and not as happy go lucky and more realistic instead.. the historic theming of the movie also drew me in

That is amazing, as an autistic kid actually understands what’s beneath the surface of society

@@KillerOrcaThat's was I thought when I seen the movie. I know, some people think he is a stereotypical "shy adventurer main character guy", but I seen a lot of movies with those type of main characters and I don't think so. Or I didn't see it because some stuff was painfully relatable.

xLycannonx Another Empireposter!

xLycannonx thanks for letting me know about this! I used to feel like my sisters and I were the only ones obsessed with this movie so I’m glad it’s being loved and appreciated

Dude fucking WHAT. I LOVE this film and had no idea! Thank you so much!!

This might be enough for me to dust off my Facebook account and log in after like 6 years. I loved this movie as a kid and actually have the illustrated screenplay with concept art. My parents probably bought it so I would stop replaying the movie for a bit 😅

Oh, lore? YES

Plus it was better to see Atlantis at its' peak and establish some character with Kida and her father so when we see them later we see how much Atlantis has declined and we sympathize with her since she was around when before the wave and experienced Atlantis in its' prime and wants to see it again.

yes once you find out just how much effort the creators put into the worldbuilding it makes you love this movie even more and wish that the tv series had kicked off.

yeah i got merchandise of it when I was a kid. I even had the pinwheel translator of the Atlantean alphabet and use it to write code. They sadly got lost. Best childhood.

Actually it was Pixar that started that cliché, but unlike current Disney movies, this movie did the twist right, and it hurts.

AndreNitro X1000 and then other companies like Warner animation group (Lego Movie 2) and Marvel did it too

I don't agree that Rourke is a twist villain in the same vain as Frozen, Big Hero 6, or any other films Schaffrillas Productions popularized in that video. To me, it seemed clear that everyone except for Milo was in it for the money, which isn't inherently evil or wrong. Most of the crew was even okay with stealing from the people of Atlantis //so long as no one got hurt//, so long as it was just a show on strength. But when the decision to doom a civilization in exchange for money arose, ALL the characters made a choice, and Rourke chose money while the rest decided the money wasn't worth it. My point is that his character was consistent throughout but there wasn't anything to push him to his extremes yet.

Rourke isn't a 'twist' in the same vein as Frozen. He's a greedy man, and is so from the start. His goals simply matched Milo's until they didn't. And when they didn't, he became an antagonist.

@@FlameIceStudios Yep. And remember, Rourke also ordered to kill the atlanteans as the last resort, when it was clear that they won´t give their secrets without a fight. At first, he tried negotiating with the king, when that didn´t work, he took Kida as hostage, and when THAT didn´t work, he finally settled for large scale murder. Yes, he was greedy and wasn´t afraid to get his hands dirty when he needed to, but only when there isn´t other way to get what he wants.

Agreed. A live-action remake would be a terrible idea.

I agree; however, Atlantis would, I think, be a much better candidate for a liveaction remake than, say, the Lion King or Beauty and the Beast. The fact that it’s not a fantastical world lends itself much better to live action, which struggles with fantastical elements (ie talking candlesticks or grown men juggling other grown men while eating 3 dozen eggs or whatever it is that happens during Gaston’s song).

Agreed. I don't want a live action remake, I want a novel series and at least two television shows: one of Kida and Milo building the new empire and a prologue series leading to the cataclysm.

In the second movie it turns out that many myths are real

I absolutely loved iron giant as a kid

What about The Prince of Egypt my dude

agree 100% with the 2nd and 3rd, and although i find the iron giand a magnificent movie, prince of egypt wins it all for me

And japanese-Western anime : - Ulysses 31 - The Mysterious Cities of Gold ....

4. Shrek

Could've summed it up with, "Ralph Bakshi would like a word."

I applaud you, I just wrote an essay on this exact topic, even now animation is still underestimated, when it has the highest potential for epic storytelling and maturity, the Dc comics animated universe is still superior and far more mature than any of the live action Dc movies, and cartoon network only shows cartoons that kill brain cells now, unlike anime that uses animation to tell grand scale stories with no limitations what so ever. Sorry looks like I had my own rant.

@@AndreNitroX Rant away. Who knows? Maybe someone will hear us.

While I agree that animation is a wonderfully versatile medium, appropriate for both lighthearted and mature themes, I kind of get where Stephanie was coming from, for this particular movie. A lot of the 'grown up' elements of Atlantis are kind of thrown in without letting them authentically affect the characters. It has death, it has ancient cultures, lost tech, and DEATH. It seemed more like a 12 year old's attempts to be edgy rather than adults enabling a younger audience to understand mature themes. I remember my teenage self being put off by that. If I saw it again though I might change my mind.

Steph's review was a joke, one of the most ridiculous statements I've read, trashy, pathetic review.

Eres Lingüista? Dónde estudiaste?

@@454LuisDeLaTorreen Chile :) Ahora termino mi maestría en lingüística aplicada en una universidad española 🤘

Ahora eres como Milo

All of the facts have been spat by this man.

I actually like this film way better than FROZEN.

Frozen was a terrible disney movie.

When it comes to the queen debate didn’t lion kings Nala rise to queen status first.

@@lunerblade13 good point

I know! I don't know why people think this movie is too adult and boring for kids. It was my favorite movie period from when I was 4 until high school.

*Fewer

@@BobMcBobJr yes there was still plenty of gold humour infact more than any other Disney movie, and I liked mature cartoons like this as a kid, and as adult I still do.

Vinny's a treasure.

Yes these were some of the best animated movies ive ever seen, and ive seen them all, too bad people didn't appreciate them on release

I’ve rewatched all three of those films recently and I don’t think Titan AE holds up as well as the other two. Loved it as a kid, but as an adult I felt the story seemed disjointed and didn’t have the same emotional impact as Atlantis or Treasure Planet.

Ah, the big three...I miss them all.

Atlantis is by far the weakest of them.

@@DaDunge Having just recently watched Treasure Planet, I would say it is the weaker one. I still can't even tell you what it was about. It's that bland. Titan AE is the superior one of the three though.

It was a funny line but I always wondered how she knew what a provincial accent sounds like when Atlantis hadn't had outlying provinces for over a millennia.

Cause she was there....

@@DeNamETae so she doesn't remember her mother being taken or specific details of the fall of Atlantis but distinctly remembers what a boorish provincial accent sounds like? I doubt it.

@@Airrage88 Im not saying it makes perfect sense xD I remember some very random shit from the age of 4 or 5. On top of that, alot of people fled to the inner city when the waters came, so whos to say people from the provinces wernt in the city and swept along?

What are you doing here?

I just rewatched it and its way worse than i remembered. I mean: Wow. Suspension of Disbelieve is forced way too hard in your face and the Plot Holes are ridiculous.

A live action series could probably work pretty well. I’ve been speculating casting ideas for a few years now. Lemme know if you have any ideas to build on it. Milo: Tom Holland (although it’s probably not the best choice following “Uncharted”) Rourke: either Josh Brolin (Thanos, Cable) or Stephen Lang (the colonel with the face scars from Avatar 2009) Helga: either Brie Larson or Natalie Portman Whitmore: either Christopher Lloyd or Jeff Bridges Sweet: Terry Crews. He’s the best and only choice for this character lol Audrey: Ana de Armas (she played Marta in Knives Out) Mole: Danny Devito is the obvious choice, but he’s probably too old at this point, and his French accent would probably be hilariously terrible (my backup choice is Jack Black, but his accent would probably be bad too) Vinny: this one gave me *a lot* of trouble. I eventually settled on Ryan Reynolds. (He looks the part, but whether he can sound or act the part is debatable) Kida: I honestly have no idea here. I considered Zoe Saldana, but at this point that’d basically be typecasting lol. If you have any ideas for Kida, I’m all ears cuz I got no idea King Nedakh: my first choice would’ve been Leonard Nimoy (classic Spock, and the voice of the king in this movie), but he passed away in 2015. Other potential ideas were James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman, but idk for sure.

This was me with Milo, the first of the stringy bespectacled nerdboys I would come to fancy. Nothing has changed.

@@aromaladyellie Atlantis is painful because one doesn't know who one should fancy

you too?

When we were kids, she was probably our first experience of seeing depicted a proper woman. Now, we love such women.

my man.

quite possibly the best Disney movie ever made

Treasure Planet was great

Yeah Treasure Planet and Atlantis are the two best and most forgotten Disney films. If I ask people abou them they... A: Never heard of it. B: Seen it and one of thir favourites.

There’s a video by a channel called Breadsword about Treasure Planet you might like. Also, yes, it’s an excellent retelling that showcases well developed characters and well made animation.

I know. I've seen a lot of Treasure Island adaptation but Treasure Planet is the one that has stuck with me over all these years

@Cara Marais I LITERALLY CAME TO THE REPLIES TO MENTION THAT VIDEO!

I just rewatched it and its way worse than i remembered. I mean: Wow. Suspension of Disbelieve is forced way too hard in your face and the Plot Holes are ridiculous. Its to the point where the whole movie basically makes no sense at all; which is very bad.

@@loturzelrestaurant stop spamming this everywhere. You don’t even have any examples to back it up.

I never really got to watch this movie as a kid. Instead, I saw the trailer for it every time I watched my copy of Dinosaur. And from that trailer, the intro of the cataclysm, and the giant submarine descending along with that glorious soundtrack were engrained into my mind. Saw it years later on Netflix, and to this day it’s still my favorite Disney movie. Recently rewatched it with a friend, and we frequently paused it to break down and analyze fun background details: after the dive, we looked up the sub’s wiki page and checked out the stats; we estimated measurements of the cargo subs that escaped the leviathan, and found them to be larger than most modern cargo planes; every single firearm used by the characters near the end of the film were real-life WW1 weapons. I love this movie

@@spartanchief1785 So a baseless assumption about what i got and dont got; that is the best youve got? Seriously?

@@spartanchief1785 And that's not even mentioning how embarassingly you missed the Time-Stamps here. You literally ask me to stop about a thing i have long, long stopped, in fact. Objectively: your embarassing yourself, dude. I block you now cause you obviously have nothing and you cant even grasp the situation or know why i should stop with what. Bye.

Tbf tho, even without the Clone Wars show, the books, or even any of the video games from the mid-2000s, the prequels were still the most fascinating setting and time period in the entire franchise. As bad as the dialogue was, they’re still my all time favorites.

@@spartanchief1785 Agreed. The world-building was fantastic The script was off but I viewed it as: which of us as teens wouldn't be potato when we're with a crush.

It would be good if we had some Nitroglycerin...right Milo.......

I'd definitely love that too. I think Cole Sprouse as Milo would be a good casting, he pulled it off in a cosplay really well once and I mean, he used to play an exceptionally nerdy character. :D

Danny DeVito as Mole?

No. No way that comes out good.

But it's already a gorgeous animated film. I'm so tired of every animated movie or show under the sun "needing a live-action re-make." Animation is it's own valid, beautiful art form that can do many things live-action film can not.

@@AluraAlua Indeed it is. I absolutely adore it and you're speaking to someone who has worked with animators, storyboarders, key art animators... I get the love for animation. I share it; Into the Spider-Verse is the best movie of its year. However we live in an era where Disney is remaking anything and everything it can. And therefore in this cynical world I wouldn't mind seeing what they could do with this story.

I'll agree with you on that one, except perhaps the 7th book (which I'd argue is the weakest, but I'm not much of a literary critic)

I was gonna make almost this exact comment but you so kindly did it for me. Thank you, sir.

Yup, Harry Potter is a mystery series geared towards children and her other mystery books are geared towards adults/a more mature audience.

Well... yes and no. The mystery isn’t the main focus, the fantasy elements are. They aren’t gritty noirs, and they’re not mysteries like Boxcar Children and Nancy Drew. They’re fantasy books with mystery elements.

@@aromaladyellie Actually yeah. What she said.

I just rewatched it and its way worse than i remembered. I mean: Wow. The Plot Holes are ridiculous. Its to the point where the whole movie basically makes no sense at all; which is very bad.

She's definitely dead. The lava flow almost smothered Atlantis

I've seen the Viking scene becuse it was included on the DVD as extra material but I don't believe it ever replaced the "child Kida" scene.

My memory may be skewed, but I have a VHS of this film in English, and it opens with both the Vikings and Atlantis' fall. Can't recall which is first though.

@@TheDigitalWatcher Was it recorded from TV? Some broadcasters add in deleted scenes to make more time for commercials

@@TheDigitalWatcher Same with the Finnish VHS, it had both the Viking and the Atlantis intro scenes. I can't remember if it's included in the DVD/Bluray version or just as extra. I'm surprised the Viking intro is missing from most versions, I always thought it was part of the movie.

I was thinking the same thing. Pretty sure both were included on my danish version.

i legit always think of Atlantis as a Fox Movie, not a Disney movie thats how much they disassociate it.

If you look on Wikipedia, they already have plans for a remake of this film...

@@dragonlord1225 its wikipedia tho. Itd be nice if there was a statement from disney

The live action of this was Avatar...

The Stephanies run the show and we take them seriously these days.

We don’t need no fucking remake just so they can fuck it up.

Stephen Suggs I remember they had that in mind but unfortunately it was caned you can still find the three pilots if you look up Atlantis milo’s return.

blu dragonfly It was very strange to me as a kid how disjointed that movie felt. I still liked it a lot, but it was a little confusing how many different elements it had.

Alexander Angelus The reason it felt so choppy is because it was the three episodes put together as a movie.

I want to get a petition to get Christopher Lloyd as Preston whitmore

Well, according to actual myth, Atlanteans knew all languages, and were adept at understanding them, as well. The crystals themselves, if you think about it, also could have been a translation device to understand other languages. You have to think sideways and actually use your imagination for how some things worked.

Ok here’s my theory about not being able to read: I always thought that after the flood Atlantis was damaged and because of it the civilization no long focused on expanding knowledge and learning but instead on surviving and moving on living in a crumbling city. The king explains that after the floods he hid the crystal and it’s power. Watching how many times the crystal necklaces were used to power technology and heal, it’s a safe bet to assume that the big crystal was even more vital to those things. Hiding the crystal and refusing to use its power caused the civilization to deteriorate even further. Most likely the shift from a great civilization to “scavenging for food at the edge of a crumbling city” also shifted their priorities and they stopped reading/writing/etc. Even if you know how to do something and won’t forget, after hundreds of years of not doing it you’re bound to be rusty. There might be a few people who still have some knowledge on how to read, but considering how old the king is I’d say that there’s not very many. As for the ability to speak other languages... I don’t know... unless maybe they frequently spoke in different languages regularly so it managed to survive where the ability to read didnt?

KatieKat I remember there’s a line about how Atlantean must be rooted in Latin which I guess helps explain why they can speak so many languages... I think it’s a stretch but also speculation when they arrive so it’s a mystery to the characters too. Edit: they could’ve also been exposed to multiple languages over hundreds of years if Milo’s crew wasn’t the first group of explorers to reach them.

I wouldn't really call him a twist villain as it's made readily apparent and even outright stated. There is just so much to it. I don't think that's a bad thing though. With Frozen I felt Hans' was really forced as his personality did a complete 180.