Tile lippage: is it ever acceptable? (2020)

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Tile lippage: is it ever acceptable//A customer sent over an estimate from another contractor.
There was a short paragraph on that estimate saying that "If the stagger pattern is over 33%, the owner must approve mock-up and lippage."
Is this true?
In this video, I will explain why this statement is a horrible excuse to do minimal work.
I strongly suggest that homeowners read through the estimate carefully. Always ask for an explanation of areas you don't fully understand.
You can also reach out to another contractor for a second opinion as part of your research.
Hope this video helps! Comment below if you have any questions.
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@AlanMcCarthyguitar 2 года назад

You are at the mercy of the flatness of wall and floor too , 100% no lippage 100% of the time is not possible , but you can do respectable job 99% of time

@carloslopez-mm2eu Год назад

This is very true. You can use all the leveling systems out there but if the floor/wall is not level then lippage will always occur.

@vary8114 Год назад

You're wrong it depends on tile. Porcelain tiles cup the longer they are, and you're not bending tile

@YesToTech 4 года назад

This is super interesting! I had never heard of tile lippage before!

@goldentalonconstruction7289 4 года назад

Thank you! Hope this video will help you vet a contractor in the future :)

@SaliBina 4 года назад

Humm very new concept! Never heard many of these terms

@goldentalonconstruction7289 4 года назад

Hopefully this video will help you vet a contractor when you start renovating your home!

@Ms.lindahart 4 года назад

Good to know! Thank you!

@goldentalonconstruction7289 4 года назад

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!

@islanddan4302 3 года назад

I agree with everything you said but as you know you can do a “reasonably good” job without the leveling system if you fallow the manufacturer’s recommendations. I use leveling system almost every time but it is more time consuming and expensive, and have raised my prices. I think it also comes down to what quality people are will to pay for. But there will always be people who want the cheaper price so there will always be contractors who have lower standards. Tile is a lifetime product if done right. It’s worth paying the extra money to get an perfect job.

@goldentalonconstruction7289 3 года назад

100% agreed.

@GoIdaho 4 года назад

Great video. Loved it.

@goldentalonconstruction7289 4 года назад

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!

@liers99 2 года назад

Tile is one of those trades that takes a lot of experience to get a perfect job. In most cases the surfaces aren’t perfect and the tiles aren’t perfect. Some tiles are way worse they others and some tiles are just plain garbage. I did a kitchen floor one time where the tiles varied up to an 1/8” in size and I was running 3/16” joints. A quality tile over a properly prepped surface will net a great result with minimal effort. I use a leveling system on every large format tile and still fight lippage on some tiles. You just have to know how to camouflage it.

@goldentalonconstruction7289 2 года назад

Very well put

@Micheal-Knight- 3 месяца назад

If a tile is warped it will have a lip even if you use spin doctor or not.

@lingshuangzhang362 4 года назад

very helpful video!

@goldentalonconstruction7289 4 года назад

Thank you. Glad we helped!

@adamkoz6358 Год назад

Always the risk of lippage when half bonding tiles because quality of tiles does differ tremendously. Easy way just check the tiles before installing and relay your recommendations to your customer.

@BonBon770 9 месяцев назад

Thank you, exactly.

@alexreed797 Год назад

So what can one do about tile lippage? Can the tile/tiles be replaced, should money be deducted if not?

@KingSobieski 2 года назад

I just tiled a concrete wall with a 1" bulge in the center with 18" tiles. Leave me alone!!!

@wasntme3651 2 года назад

Hopefully you started at the bow and worked your way out lol.

@Will-nb8qk 2 года назад

Can levelling systems cause issues with glue surface consistencies? If I’m using rectified edge porcelain I’ll always recommend replacement of the wall if it isn’t flat but otherwise never had issues.

@goldentalonconstruction7289 2 года назад

Great question, I always apply a good amount of glue on the wall/floor and back butter the tile as well, this has always worked for us. Not enough glue will cause that problem. Replacing the floor and walls is always recommended. Some tiles come bowed out of production. Tiles longer than 24 inches on one side tend to have this problem.

@Anto-kz5hk 2 года назад

What about the space between tiles? The contractor left them touch on one corner and the other is 1/8 space on the same side.

@goldentalonconstruction7289 2 года назад

The spin doctor works both as a leveler and spacer. The ones in the video are 1/8.

@BonBon770 9 месяцев назад

It is not false, if you're using a 12 by 24 on a 50% running bond. And the tile that you're using is not a really good tile. And it bows and bananas. And they insist the customer on a 50% running bond. And the tile is bad, it doesn't matter. If you 2 coat float your walls or whatever. you will have Lipage because the tiles are not flat period. Tile leveling systems and clips came out. Because of these new tiles that are not made good, they are bowed and banana . It is recommended by most manufacturers to stay within either end of the tile by a third or less ...But we all know as tile guys that customers want 12 by 24. Sometimes on a 50% running bond. It doesn't matter what tiling leveling system clip wedge you use. You are going to have Lipage if the tile is not great. So if you want a 50% running bond pattern on a 12 by 24,you'd better get the best straight tile out there .