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Tillotson 212E Vs Wildcat 223cc ~ Who Will Win!?!?! 

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Today we look at, compare, and dyno test the Wildcat 223cc and Tillotson 212E. For years the Tillotson was the king of the hill in small engines. You may no long think that after todays video. We compare part for part which is the best in the small block world. Who will come out on top?
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@Parents_of_Twins
@Parents_of_Twins 8 месяцев назад
One thing you forgot to add when it came to the price of the Wildcat was shipping. I just went on their site to see and it was $60+ in shipping. I'm not shilling for HF or anything but that cost me $6.99 to have it shipped to my front door. I understand that a company like HF who ships millions of items per year gets better shipping rates but at the end of the day I have an amount of money I can spend on toys and that's $50+ that I can spend on a carb or something else for my engine. Hopefully the Wildcat line will be able to get into a chain store or something else to bring those shipping costs down.
@Skill_Wize
@Skill_Wize 9 месяцев назад
Thank you Redbeard. This was a much needed video.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
You are welcome
@VentureWayward
@VentureWayward 9 месяцев назад
Excited to see what you do with this 223 Wildcat.
@RevnRev
@RevnRev 13 дней назад
I guess the cc in the wildcat would not allow it to be used for box stock go kart racing?
@FLORIDAMANIAM-he2lz
@FLORIDAMANIAM-he2lz 9 месяцев назад
What RPM were you running when the flywheel came apart?
@MrPhenom05
@MrPhenom05 9 месяцев назад
Would love to see the 225 tilly, not the RS but the regular 225 they sell.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
I plan on getting one to test and build.
@MrPhenom05
@MrPhenom05 9 месяцев назад
@@RedBeardsGarage thanks for the reply brotha and thank you for the vids. Cant wait to see the upcoming videos.
@davidholcomb9961
@davidholcomb9961 9 месяцев назад
Wildcat 223 will be my next engine because of the block. Your research has been flawless and truthful and i greatly appreciate that! You are the man!
@lanbonbob5146
@lanbonbob5146 9 месяцев назад
Still can’t beat a 99$ predator on sale
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
On an all out budget yes it is.
@Jasonkartracing
@Jasonkartracing 9 месяцев назад
I build my own engines for the backyard karting I do here in NC which I think is probably the capital of oval karting and your right a 99.99 Predator is a good deal and I will probably buy another one when on sale but so far the best hp per dollar engine I have built so far is a the Predator 224 which is really not a Predator it’s a Ducar with a Predator sticker. I got it on sale for like 140.00 I put a PVL from a new Ducar 212 I had I got for a good deal shaved the head did a little porting, shaft rockers, flattop piston, 308 cam, 36pd springs, billet rod, stainless valves, aluminum push rods, Autolite plug and I redone Ducar carb and drilled it out to over .690 it’s about the size of a VM22 carb and it runs awesome and to be honest RBG videos helped me more than anything. Thank you and God bless
@NubsWithGuns
@NubsWithGuns 6 месяцев назад
@@JasonkartracingI have a Ducar 224 and am very happy with it. Has such a broader power band than my 212 Hemi , it seems like it pulls for ever and I haven't seen the rev limiter yet that sits at around only 5250. (rev limiting coil from DynoCams). I learned a lot here also, but Red probably not speaking to me for my mouth when I got mad once over something that shouldn't matter to me since. LOL
@Jasonkartracing
@Jasonkartracing 6 месяцев назад
@@NubsWithGuns how’s that Dyno cams coil doing. I was thinking about getting one cause one track I go to has a 5200 rpm limit and everyone is running the governor trying to stay under that rpm I haven’t talked to the track owner about it yet to see if it would be ok.
@NubsWithGuns
@NubsWithGuns 6 месяцев назад
@@Jasonkartracing Does what it is supposed to.
@terryharris2493
@terryharris2493 9 месяцев назад
Good job red beard ... Thanks for the info. I just bought 4 predator 212 on sale for 99$ each I'm going to keep them stock for rototiller and some old farm equipment. Love the old cast iron engine . Some time it's better to replace than to rebuild. Price wise of course. Keep em coming 🔥
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
The Predator 212 is the good ole beater. Cheap and reliable. Not hate on them here. Thanks for watching!
@MountainEagle77
@MountainEagle77 Месяц назад
I read that cast aluminum flywheels are lighter than cast iron or steel but generally less strong. They can be more prone to cracking or failure under high stress and high RPM conditions. So if that is true, I should only go with a flywheel manufactured from billet if I plan on removing the governor?
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 9 месяцев назад
If I were to get another engine it would be the Ducar 224 from DynoCams.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
I will see about getting one for testing.
@spuds7677
@spuds7677 9 месяцев назад
You talk about the Ducar a lot but you haven't tested one yet. I would like to see the Ducar 212 (I built one) tested. Its $225 but you get the PVL flywheel, good for 17k RPMs. I think it will be on par with the Tilly 212 performance but the price per HP is better, with it coming with the upgraded Flywheel.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
We are going to get one and add it to the list. I will continue to do this type of video throughout the year to see if something new comes along or what other engine I can add.
@rickswans211
@rickswans211 9 месяцев назад
Yes, please give the ducar 212 a test. 5300 governored rpm right outta the box, a pvl flywheel, and much better carb.
@NubsWithGuns
@NubsWithGuns 6 месяцев назад
@@RedBeardsGarageThey make a 224 also :P
@NubsWithGuns
@NubsWithGuns 6 месяцев назад
@@rickswans211Still a mechanical governor with moving parts inside the engine. Better off ordering Dynocams rev limit coil with it. I run one of those coils on my Ducar224(it's not a predator you're thinking backwards LOL) and it works great, caps it at around 5250. I still have stock rods and not much more than a stage1 so I wanted it limited somehow. EDIT: For the record I do use a Cast Aluminum flywheel, same as the one Red uses in the vids.
@bretmontgomery7855
@bretmontgomery7855 9 месяцев назад
Wouldn't it make more sense to do the 223 vs 224 and tilly 225
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
I will once I have a 225cc in my garage. The only ones I have are built.
@Powercat46
@Powercat46 9 месяцев назад
@@RedBeardsGarage will the 225 Tilly be similar to these engines? I thought it was a $1000.00 kart motor. Or do you mean to bring the Wildcat/Predator/Ducar up to its level with performance parts? Then do the Dollar/Dyno comparison. Also wondering if the Wildcat can be bored to 72mm or would it require a new sleeve? Then a 236 Tilly vs Wildcat match up could be done.
@DirtyDave413
@DirtyDave413 9 месяцев назад
Exactly the results I expected. When you announced you were doing this comparison, the first thing I said was to bust the "9+hp" and "10k Flywheel" CLAIMS on that Tilly. The only Tilly's worth messing with are the 225 and bigger
@timberripper
@timberripper 9 месяцев назад
Hey red is the governor removal process the same on the wildcat as the predator 212?
@jwalkerftw
@jwalkerftw 8 месяцев назад
Dang it and I just bought a Tilly, I wish I would’ve knew about this wildcat engine and bought it instead😢
@rtz549
@rtz549 9 месяцев назад
Bore, stroke, compression, cam. Start doubling, tripling, and quadrupling these engines.
@chadtetrault1386
@chadtetrault1386 9 месяцев назад
Great series ! A sealed 225RS should definitely be the next thing on the dyno!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
I am going to get one coming!
@srcobra50
@srcobra50 9 месяцев назад
This is my favorite small engine build channel. Great content great info.
@OoheavysackoO
@OoheavysackoO 9 месяцев назад
So yes ec carbs are a sponsor.
@BIllMcCambridge
@BIllMcCambridge 9 месяцев назад
I wonder why not compare a tilitson 225. In this mix. Would be a more comprehensive list
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 9 месяцев назад
Aren't those $800 plus? Who sells a stock Tillotson 225?
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
We will get one to test.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
I think they make one in a stock form. I will see about getting it.
@craigengelman1369
@craigengelman1369 9 месяцев назад
why dont you ever use box stock project stuff ?vadar racing tested it and got 9hp and 13 lbs !!! there bsp 212 is $170 !! Box Stock Project 212cc motor with all high quality hand-picked BSP parts to include the following: Race ready Ruixing carb tunned and jetted (Main .038 Low speed .022) JT 223 head Hardened heat treated crankshaft guaranteed (2.163-2.173) tapered to fit all 196cc clone flywheels T6 Treated cast 5 over rod BSP 4 Cam T6 Treated stock light weight piston (2.756 or 70mm) with light weight wrist pin BSP block (2.756 bore) and side cover Quality P5 bearings High quality black side cover gasket for a little extra room Throttle Return Spring and Pull Rod All accessories used on the BSP 196 fit the BSP 212 motor. Optional Black Blower housing, Crank rope, Large metal shroud, and Valve cover. Options: ARC Speedway Billet Aluminum Flywheel (6689), ARC Billet Aluminum Flywheel (6619), EV6 camshaft. (Does not include Flywheel, top plate, air filter adapter, chain guard, fuel pump, or air filter.)
@adampartridge2547
@adampartridge2547 9 месяцев назад
Have you ever personally split a predator block due to too much power/tq?
@GeorgiaRidgerunner
@GeorgiaRidgerunner 9 месяцев назад
i ve never heard of that actually happening i think the split block thing is a made up scenario just to try to sell a product kinda like the mouth was company listerine did when they made up the medical condition sounding word halitosis
@harleykitterer
@harleykitterer 9 месяцев назад
You should build a 224 and wild cat step by step like the road to horsepower
@SNELLERIZED
@SNELLERIZED 6 месяцев назад
It's unfortunate that the Wildcat 223 comes with a hemi head.
@davekulman8195
@davekulman8195 9 месяцев назад
They're all kinda suited for each purpose the tillotson would be a good work horse and the others are not they'll take a beating at 9k rpm but how long do they last under kinda normal working situations that'll tell you which one is most likely to be worth building 3600rpm isn't alot but every day weeks on end is alot more stress than just reving it to the moon and hoping you don't toss a rod
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
Honestly under normal working situations there all the same. If its a log splitter or pressure washer go with the cheapest 212.
@trumpfancardanostakepool4737
@trumpfancardanostakepool4737 9 месяцев назад
Very professional and well put together.
@RockyXTR
@RockyXTR 9 месяцев назад
I would like a wildcat 223 and tried twice to buy one but EC won't ship to anything but the billing address. Not a knock- that's just their policy. Maybe down the road I will be able to get one but I am usually not home when things arrive so it is what it is
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
Yeah I understand why they do it. They have been screwed a few times by people.
@draxstice
@draxstice 9 месяцев назад
I think your built predator 224 vs a built wildcat wound be sick
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
We will see how it stacks up once its on that level.
@greatbull67
@greatbull67 8 месяцев назад
I appreciate your videos for breaking it down simple and honestly.
@robinhoodtotherescue6801
@robinhoodtotherescue6801 22 дня назад
Great video. You did not talk about which flywheels are compatible with the Wildcat 223. I have the 223 Electric start. Are there any aftermarket aluminum flywheels with a ring gear that fit the 223E?
@paulpinto8400
@paulpinto8400 9 месяцев назад
I like this because Tilly will hopefully improve and surpass. I’m a tillitson fan obviously.
@tinygaragepowersports0122
@tinygaragepowersports0122 9 месяцев назад
Excellent content....this is what I love to see. Just the facts. I have a non-Hemi 212 Preddy that was given to me and I was thinking of building it up for my racing mower....but after watching this, I'm gonna go with the Wildcat and keep the Preddy on the back burner. All of the extras engineered into the Wildcat makes it a no-brainer IMO. Even stock, the Wildcat would be more than enough for my mower. The thought of the extra compression from just a billet rod is enticing, too! Wheelies for days........... Thanks for all that you do, Greg!
@dallasjames97
@dallasjames97 9 месяцев назад
Bravo Sir! Thank You for ALL of Your Hard Work and Dedication for Passing along the information Thank You!
@chadmills5400
@chadmills5400 6 месяцев назад
Wildcat 223 is only 4.93% bigger in volume yet has a power/torque output of %10 above a Tillotson 212E!!!
@calvinhobbs89
@calvinhobbs89 5 дней назад
The manufacturer is liable if it breaks at less then 10,000 rpm
@minibikesandmowers
@minibikesandmowers 9 месяцев назад
So im guessing gopowersports aint a sponsor anymore and ec carburetors is the new sponsor
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
Ec sells both engines. I feel like I proved what I stated in this video. This was not about sponsors.
@daxfitz
@daxfitz 6 месяцев назад
Does anyone know what is the actuall stock max RPM of the wildcat? Is it 4000rpm?
@peterchristlieb
@peterchristlieb 9 месяцев назад
Good to see you developing that relationship with Ec Carbs. The other companies have been taking credit for their R&D too long. Their EGO clutches are amazing too
@ProbeGT2
@ProbeGT2 9 месяцев назад
Holy crap that dyno was 12 grand!!!! Respect.
@markyoung9964
@markyoung9964 9 месяцев назад
I know, 12k out of my pocket!
@Dirtdog7680
@Dirtdog7680 9 месяцев назад
Wow great sponsor!
@Parents_of_Twins
@Parents_of_Twins 8 месяцев назад
They are ridiculously expensive. I looked into getting one about a decade back and they were circa 8k at the time and that was without the computer.
@ephenj
@ephenj 6 месяцев назад
Can you dyno the tillotson 212r engine? That was a engine so many people missed out on a really really well built engine with a flywheel ready to hit high RPM. heard it made 7 or close to 10?
@Parents_of_Twins
@Parents_of_Twins 8 месяцев назад
You talk a lot about how the engine is stronger with webbing and stuff but it would be nice to see if that truly matters. I guess what I'm saying is build a Predator, Tillotson, and Wildcat and keep pushing them until they let go and see what the caused the engines to fail. If you don't think you are up to that kind of challenge no worries however if that's the case you probably shouldn't theorize about the failure points and if webbing and side plate bolts truly make a difference. I could see how they may or may not it would depend on how these engines fail and what causes that failure. Do they fail because the crank starts to walk or because the jug starts to flex or is it something else? Definitely a important question either way.
@tunanocrust5089
@tunanocrust5089 3 месяца назад
20 minutes to describe what a piston, rod, and crank does. I’ve seen people break down real engines builds in less time lmao
@OhHeyItsBilly
@OhHeyItsBilly 28 дней назад
The Wildcat is $218 on EC's website.
@tburn1834
@tburn1834 6 месяцев назад
So is the Ghost the best stock I don’t really know what I’m doing with upgrading engines so I want the best one I can just ride for a big boy
@deltacx1059
@deltacx1059 8 месяцев назад
At this point I don't see why these higher end engines still have the cylinder built in, the horizontal Honda style/ the corvair style setup is much better because you can just swap the cylinder for a new one.
@BrianWM
@BrianWM 9 месяцев назад
Any big difference between the electric start wildcat? I’ve been considering the wildcat 223 electric start for ease of starting for the kids. I know they have flywheels that exist and the charging coil really doesn’t mean much to me. Thanks!
@NubsWithGuns
@NubsWithGuns 6 месяцев назад
The starter, charging coils, and a ring gear is the difference. Not sure if they use different flywheels(example the flywheel my 212 predator has no magnets for the charging coils but the flywheel on my 196 does).
@ianfairbanks1318
@ianfairbanks1318 9 месяцев назад
Nice comparison! I'd like top see a video of the performance to dollar ratio. USING the SAME carb on each engine!
@realracer83
@realracer83 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for this video!!! I been trying to make my mind up about what engine to get for my mini bike build!!! GREAT ELABORATION #MAD#RESPECT 🙌
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
Thank you sir and Im glad we could help! As long as your building!
@calvinhobbs89
@calvinhobbs89 5 дней назад
Tilitson 149.99 free shipping ...
@DirtyBump
@DirtyBump 7 месяцев назад
Prolly not gone reply but do a tillotson 225rs vswildcat it’s gone knock it out the park?
@bradmathisen
@bradmathisen 9 месяцев назад
I loved this style of video! I'm looking forward to seeing you build the Wildcat.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
We are too!
@rickswans211
@rickswans211 9 месяцев назад
​@RedBeardsGarage there's also a stock Ducar 224. It's come with no governor and needs a flywheel and throttle assembly. It's a powerhouse with jus a pvl flywheel.
@danmartvk
@danmartvk 9 месяцев назад
I am just about to start a new build, was not sure what stocky to start with. Now i may get a wild cat and follow along with your riad to HP for it!
@TheFastKart
@TheFastKart Месяц назад
Why not compare the 212 Wildcat to the other 212's?
@minibikesandmowers
@minibikesandmowers 9 месяцев назад
Ive been wanting to buy a wildcat engine for a couple years now and i think im going to go ahead and finally buy one after the holidays
@questofknowledge8788
@questofknowledge8788 3 месяца назад
The 223 is cheaper than a predator where I live, how?
@Sam-vx6le
@Sam-vx6le 9 месяцев назад
Would love to see a Power Fist 212cc engine from Princess Auto in Canada on the road to horsepower series. Loving it so far!
@scott2362
@scott2362 Месяц назад
Does the 223 have a governor on it when you buy it?
@thisisgonnahurt2574
@thisisgonnahurt2574 9 месяцев назад
did the wildcat have the 4000 rpm limiter on it when you had it on the dyno?
@madisonjones7003
@madisonjones7003 2 месяца назад
Will this fit on the doodle bug mini bike like the others
@HFV_Junkyardin
@HFV_Junkyardin 3 месяца назад
I gotta wonder how the 223 compares to a Pred 224.
@kturner433
@kturner433 9 месяцев назад
Has anyone ever seen a jug blown off the block or damaged? Im just questioning the value in the extra webbing. Im not questioning it is stronger and cheap insurance, but is it worth the extra cost? You are either really going to have to push the limits, or make a build miscalculation to get the jug to self clearance, IMO. If you are going to build a rip snorting fire breathing monster, then the extra cost for the extra webbing/insurance makes sense. Thoughts? Great content Greg and keep the videos coming!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
It all depends on how far you push the engine. These engines do have a lot of vibrations in them. I believe it is 100% worth it. I have a block in my shop that is starting to crack. We did rev it a lot to 9k.
@ryanValdez-h1z
@ryanValdez-h1z 9 месяцев назад
What does it mean if your predator to 12 has resistance?
@ol-man-duffyj688
@ol-man-duffyj688 9 месяцев назад
God bless you RB. Any chance you can get ahold of one of PKs engines and put it on the dyno? He builds some pretty cool 301’s and true fire rings the heads and porting like crazy. Everyone is wanting to know what those things dyno.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
I haven't heard of them. I will look into it.
@billwilliams8024
@billwilliams8024 9 месяцев назад
Great information I would definitely buy the wildcat and build it
@richontheroad2711
@richontheroad2711 9 месяцев назад
GPS claims 9 HP out of the box on the 212E, and I bought one on that claim. I'm disappointed.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
It's still a good engine. Just a 7hp engine. At the very beginning we thought it did make that power because we had no other way to prove it. We know now that it is no.
@walleyeye
@walleyeye 6 месяцев назад
So where do you buy the black motor?
@fishsticks88
@fishsticks88 9 месяцев назад
I need the 79cc predator to go on sale
@corneliussianturi476
@corneliussianturi476 9 месяцев назад
Yoo Red Beard, seems I had interesting engine name that you should find out on the market it's name ProQuip Marintek 4000 Marintek it's was around 4500RPM at max and was 389cc stock I mean, this was interesting engine that, actualy can rev more than 3600RPM stock engine if you had mind to review this engine and show us how this engine rips on the track, that would be nice for us to know, what this engine capable of. peace
@xXxCulpxXx
@xXxCulpxXx 7 месяцев назад
So heres what i would do at some point on my fresh build. Id choose the Wildcat 223 cause of the blocks strengthening & longer stroke & crankcase has the 7 bolts. Then get the 212 Ghost camshaft & carb. Billet rod & Billet Flywheel & MSD Ignition Coil. Im curious what this would do on the dyno mashing these 3 togethor into wildcat 223 ghost machine 😂❤. Sounds fun to combine
@xClyptox
@xClyptox 7 месяцев назад
Honestly, its about time they dropped the price. I was shopping around back in August and that was not the price. Along with shipping fees it made this engine a no go - currently with shipping from ECCarbs website the price jumps to ~233. VS Predator 224 187 shipped, metal cam and webbing makes a difference sure - but I would also note the engine tones on that dyno and say I think the Tilly sounded stable compared to the WC. The shipping price is really the downside of the engine.
@Parents_of_Twins
@Parents_of_Twins 8 месяцев назад
It kind of depends on what you are planning to build. If you are planning on something simple for your kids go kart then that Predator is hard to beat especially as you can get them on sale for $100 at least that's what I paid for mine. I'm putting it on a mini bike for my kids and have no plans at the moment to push it past 12-14hp. Now if you are building a racing engine for competition I agree with you on the Wildcat but if you are building something to thrash on the weekends then I think the Predator is hard to beat. Kind of depends on what you are doing. As I'm writing this one of my thumbnails is talking about a 50hp Liquid Piston diesel engine that weighs 18kg or 40lbs, now that would be fun on a Mini Bike or a Go Kart.
@ol-man-duffyj688
@ol-man-duffyj688 9 месяцев назад
Also, are you going to circle back around on engine venting and the purpose? Where the check valves go and where the best place is to take a pulse line for the pump would be? Us upcoming builders need to know. 😅
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
Yes. I will do a video soon on that.
@ol-man-duffyj688
@ol-man-duffyj688 9 месяцев назад
@@RedBeardsGarage cannot wait!!! ❤️
@danacook9615
@danacook9615 9 месяцев назад
Hello Mr. Red Beard. I have a question/suggestion. Have you ever considered using portal gear lifts on a gokart? I have a basic "Batman 200" for the kids and I was thinking if I put 29's on the back with a 15% reduction it would give crazy lift, good torque, and not much difference in top speed. Thoughts? It might make a good project/video. They are kinda pricey off the shelf but as resourceful as you are, you make have a cheap solution and something gopower might sell if it's successful. Just sayin', Thanks!
@chadmills5400
@chadmills5400 6 месяцев назад
Note: Not only do you get a lighter valve train with 5mm valve stems but equally important is the extra air flow you get. It's like getting a port job for free. It's like porting the valve stem all the way.
@pcuov9293
@pcuov9293 9 месяцев назад
I could use some help with my predator motor. I fully rebuilt my bike, put a air filter and exhaust on it and it won’t start. I have checked the valves. I have went over the whole motor and cannot find what’s wrong with. It have been messing with it for three days. I have ran this motor about three days ago and now it won’t start and I can spin the engine over by hand with no compression. What should I do?
@shanestout3543
@shanestout3543 9 месяцев назад
I've looked through your videos and I'm not finding too many on issues from small engines... I just put a predator 212 on my daughter's Motovox mbx10 and the only things I did to it was remove the shift linkage and install a Chinese vm22 carb and tied open the governor and put a small aftermarket exhaust... I got it jetted correctly and the needle adjusted appropriately so I get no lag in the throttle however I am running into an issue just recently with the the pull start acts like it's locking up and not turning the motor.. it has less than 10hr of break in time... any ideas would be greatly appreciated...
@timyestim
@timyestim 9 месяцев назад
is this the same tillotson 212 go power sports says makes 9+ hp?
@andrewklahn7899
@andrewklahn7899 9 месяцев назад
By end of the day they're both cast does it matter if you if the tilton 212 or this one but yeah I guess you're getting 223 CC the benefit it don't matter what engine you go with yes if you do a government take out the governor in them you need to do a flywheel and the lifter what but the process of building a custom engine for yourself is for fun😊
@kampfer1299
@kampfer1299 9 месяцев назад
I wanna see a budget build of the wildcat once u add basics upgrades it easily becomes 800$+…
@leonardjoey805
@leonardjoey805 9 месяцев назад
Love Ur channel, I race gokarts for years, just now getting used to gas racing, not methenoahl flat heads love to contact y'all bought alot from go power sports, love to ask questions be glad to pay
@cedhome7945
@cedhome7945 9 месяцев назад
Be interesting to take a mobile Dyno to meetups and see who builds what power as some channels boast 20-30hp on there motors ..be great to stop big boasts .let's see who's telling the truth 🤔
@yonnj
@yonnj 9 месяцев назад
Is EC carbs 223GTI-E a decent option for a lilttle more preformance ?
@williamtimko1798
@williamtimko1798 3 месяца назад
I bought a wildcat 223, Amen 🙏🏼 brother
@zachariekelley
@zachariekelley 9 месяцев назад
Hay Red Beard! Are you going to work with EC's Wildcat 460cc?
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
Yes sir
@countrychase3873
@countrychase3873 9 месяцев назад
Put the EC stage one kit on the Wildcat and put it back on the dyno. PLEASE!
@jbrown198522
@jbrown198522 9 месяцев назад
Man. I got a predator to build. But im thinking im going to get a wildcat. But before i do. I want to see what goes on with builds. Cause from the start you got more hp stock. So it should build more built.
@gulfcoastgarage
@gulfcoastgarage 9 месяцев назад
Just wondering if you've ever done any work with the 5-8 hp briggs intek engines. Some of them are sold with torque ratings only which seem to be more than the engines tested here.
@kevinterrell3542
@kevinterrell3542 9 месяцев назад
Would love to see a road to horsepower with a flat head briggs. Us broke people an get em real cheap and easy
@timberripper
@timberripper 9 месяцев назад
Hope you see this red. Could you please tell me if theres a way to have an electric start motor that makes 11hp if so would you please recommend how to do so?
@ganzonomy
@ganzonomy 9 месяцев назад
How's it compare to the Honda engines? Always wondered if there is even a market for Honda mods
@srcobra50
@srcobra50 9 месяцев назад
Thanks red this is what I needed I was struggling between choosing a wildcat or tillotson as my next engine for my trailmaster once my 196craps out
@peterchristlieb
@peterchristlieb 9 месяцев назад
I like the Ducar over the Predator but at this stage, it’s hard to beat starting with a 72mm Tilly block and picking your own mix
@BornagainBloodbath
@BornagainBloodbath 9 месяцев назад
Wildcat was a well kept secret in some open class kart racing now everyone knows about them lol
@brandoncoffyn8024
@brandoncoffyn8024 9 месяцев назад
Ok ok ok I'll go buy a wildcat lol
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
That would be wise lol
@JimCooper-f8g
@JimCooper-f8g 7 месяцев назад
Wildcat head mating surface looked nasty
@4x4rcoff-roadtractors54
@4x4rcoff-roadtractors54 9 месяцев назад
Very nice Dino at least the Predator motor made more horsepower than the advertise the advertising what 6.5 horsepower so that's good you know how to be cool if you could do a video on the what is that the 195 CC diesel engine do you have on a go-kart I always wonder what it had for horsepower and torque everything's in Chinese I'm retarded cuz they write in newton meters so be cool if you can make a video of that diesel engine on the dyno
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
I will get it on there soon to see what it will do.
@rogermcdonald1607
@rogermcdonald1607 9 месяцев назад
Ive always thought the tillys were pricey for what you get!🤔
@amercer639
@amercer639 9 месяцев назад
I been watching you guys for a long time Thank you for your help You made me better engine builder Thank you again
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching and supporting us!
@rattlecan13
@rattlecan13 9 месяцев назад
Love it! Great video! I know what I'm buying. Thanks Greg!
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