Timbersled VS Polaris Assault 

ponycarfan same for sxs and ATV. One is no worst

I was thinking that exactly as well

Snowboards revolutionized skiing in a positive way because it challenged a mindset. The same can be said for snowbikes and snowmobiles.

Larry Laffer i do!

One you freeze on the other you don't

..and destroy the bike in 1/2 the time, having to rebuild every year..If you can afford it, buy a sled, dedicated Timbersled, and an off road summer bike and a KTM Super Duke R..now thats it!

@@someboomer5599 Mate, 4 strokes are a thing. I can ride my KLX300 all winter and summer and all I have to do is 2 oil change a year and swapping from wheels to sled.

@@EstebanDVO the klx 300 has enough power for running tracks? I have an older klx 300 and I can't imagine that. I've been thinking my 04 xr 400 might not even have the power, but I have no idea im genuinely wondering

I thought the same until i realized the amount of R&D that goes into these machines. In addition they are not selling many units at all when compared to automobiles. Almost 1Million F-Series Ford Trucks sold in 2018 vs. In 2018 there were 124,786 snowmobiles sold worldwide; 53,179 were sold in the U.S. and 47,024 were sold in Canada. They are definitely not price gouging with numbers like this.

I'm looking to get into a dirtbike for the first time and im getting sticker shock...a 2020 yz125x= 7k+ and a nice ktm is 10k. Snowmobiles are about double that after tax.

@@jay101379 Good point. That's probably why in the 70s snowmobiles had veeeeeeery primitive technology, design and build quality compared to cars of the same age. It's much better the last 20 years or so though.

Agreed. Especially because even a mildly used sled is about half the price. You can find a near brand new sled for around 6.5k on the lower end. Just let someone else get a brand new sled then buy it a couple years later the price will drop like crazy

The problem is all the dipshits that keep buying them. "Oh the r&d blah blah blah" sleds havent made a significant step forward in over 10 years and sled prices continue to soar every year. Why do you think sport atvs and side by side atvs have become wildly more popular for powersports in general? They were cheaper. Now they aren't, cause what happens when things get popular? Corporations decide to make more money.

Ronnie there trail legal and always have been at least where I live

No.

Trying his marketing strategy because the big drawback is NO HEAT

@@jmzochsnrtr Wear heated gear.

and the destruction of the engine..

It is pretty expensive

But for me a Mountain Sled is like a Ship compared to my dirtbike. And i think for people like me, that are mostly riding bikes, you have something for the snow without riding something that different...

problem is that the snow hawk does both things worse then either option.

Arctic Cat’s SVX 450? It's not convertible back to a regular dirt bike so it's 1/2 as appealing as a Timber sled.

ircoll a modified snow hawk does not compare with a stock snow hawk in any way!!! its like night and day:)

Sorry, but a snowhawk is still different than a snow bike. All three options have a different feel to them.

Bryce Bohman sure. What im saying is that the best compromise between a snowmobile and a snowbike is a modified snow hawk. Because it blends the best parts from the two machines into one machine. Snowmobile Power with snowmobile clutch. Agility in the trees almost like a snowbike. Deep powder and steep hill climbing capabilities like a snowmobile. Unlimited Sidehilling like a snowbike. Etc etc.

TheLoneWolf074 why though

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TheLoneWolf074 that's wierd

Their reasoning is idiotic if you ask me. I imagine it's people who have only, and always ridden snowmobiles, that are saying it's bad just because they don't know anything about them, or they prefer snowmobiles anyway, so it doesn't matter to them if they're banned, if that makes sense. They say that snowbikes dig deeper into the snow and destroys the ground underneath, gets people to places that are harder to get too, which makes them harder to rescue or whatever, and they're apparently louder than snowmobiles. Here's the article if you'd like to read more. www.expressen.se/motor/ombyggda-crossarna-maste-stoppas/ In my opinion, all of those arguements are completely valid for modern snowmobiles as well, so the only reason I see they're banned is ''Because''.

The sled lobby has nothing to do with it.

giobikefans your fitness level needs to be greater on a sled as they weigh 450-550 lbs! A snow bike may weigh 200 lbs. Also snow bike are easier to handle and turn, side hill and boon dock. I'll never go back to a sled after owning a snowbike.

a snow bike would weigh at least 325 ish lbs. a 450 weighs about 225 and a timbersled kit weighs about 135. minus wheels and tires your looking at something about 325lbs

Opposite. Snowmobiles require crazy strength. They're designed for 200+ lb men. Snowbike require finesse. You can weigh less than 250 lbs. They're both getting lighter and more powerful year after year. The snowbike is 100 to 200 lbs lighter. If you're smaller the snowbike is world's better.

@@JM-nt5fm Cool thanks!

Will Brietzke you still have to shift with a rekluse, you just don't need to use the clutch

oshow02 My bad, haven't actually looked into them, just assumed they worked that way.

I wish i could make something really stupid up just to sound like i know what im talking about then just be totally honest at how i just pulled info straight out of my ass after im exposed for being a story fabricator. People are strange, they really are.

I've seen a couple pairs of boots that people have made that have a metal piece to shift with

Ten years or so ago, there was a company that made a snow kit for quads, before timbersled was around. My coworker at the Yamaha shop had it on his quad, but it wasn't worth a crap off trail.

no

What we're seeing is more people buying these kits to ride AS WELL AS their sleds. Both are super fun, but you're right. Snowmobilers love their snowmobiles.

Called a dirt bike

The sleds just sink and are to heavy

On a straight up hill climb the sled has way more power. I have both

Thanks for the heart!

Big Boy nope

Big Boy they have similar engines to some jet skis

It depends on what you mean. They dont have a clutch you pull with your hand but yes they have a primary and a secondary clutch. They are engaged/disengaged by the motor revs and not with a lever. Snowmobiles also do not shift like a bike. They are one gear...similar to a CVT transmission on modern cars.

Heinrich Von Kekelnazi you also have to take weight into consideration

the thing is that snowbikes are alot lighter than sleds and they have less friction in the snow due to being so narrow. it's like a knife through butter driving them in deep powder

Just had my first snow bike experience. It was, for me, way more fun than the sled. Opens up so much more riding opportunities.

Philipp Scripcariu I’ve heard that they work fine until you have to climb steep deep powder

Mountains like the Rockies they dont at all mind you we ride 800cc and up with 164 and up tracks mostly with 3 inch paddles

ELLIOTT ROSE McLaren DBAG

Ain't that the truth

hes in canada

I almost fell off the couch laughing....lol

NitrousGlycerin did you even watch the video...

Mr wiz ive been considering one but is it worth the price

They are in Canada...................

How is it? Mines obviously a beast in the desert, but i was wondering how itd be with a Timbersled on it cuz the motor is all low/mid grunt and doesnt want to rev out

jared bennett you have no clue

yep

500cc 2 stroke is way more power than 500cc 4stroke but other wise gas consuption....

Less power, yes, but waaay less weight as well

jared bennett and one way to kill your engine. Some of these guys aren't even getting one season of riding before they smoke them.

160 vs 60 seems like a huge hp difference

Power to weight ratio is what really matters, I'm sure the sled will be ahead but I'm sure theyre damn close

Joe Dirt not really. The bike is fun but the power to weight ratio isn't even remotely close to my sled. A sled is maybe 100-150 lbs more with 100 more hp