Time Team S20-E01 The Forgotten Gunners of WWI 

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My great uncle served in Machine Gun Corps at Gallipoli and later in Tank Corps I believe at the canal zone.. my grandad served in the Royal Field Artillery Army Ordinance Corps I don't know where. He was gassed.

Day late and a dollar short but thanks for you and your family’s service!!!

Proper thing, it's great to know this.

Wotdermatter Yay! Stewart is back!

Yay, we like stewart….so good at putting it all together

Hes the best part of the new time team they brought back

Water cooled, yes.

Elements of the MGC, namely the Heavy branch of the regiment, subsequently became the 3rd and 4th RTR. The rest of the MGC existed as the MGC until it was disbanded in 1922. My grandfather served in Mesopotamia and Belgium with the MGC.

My great uncle 2nd Lieutenant Arthur N Wolffsohn served in Machine Gun Corps and Tank Corps first at Salonika then at the Egyptian canal zone.

Lol not true

Thanks for posting these - back when the History Channel (USA) did actual history, they carried Time Team. Then they transmogrified into another reality TV channel. Was sorry to see that they sort of elbowed Mick out later in the series (by adding a spokesmodel to the team? And giving her equal billing with Tony? Seriously?) and doubly sorry to hear of his passing.

Thank you for all the effort and time you expend

liljgoneman I happened to come across this "educational"program by accident & even before watching it i subscribed,im from America & i didnt care who or what country made it?sadly the only thing that killed it was an idiot who cares more about what America does or doesnt do .

liljgoneman ive always felt we here in the states are the are the dimmest bulbs in the box. Its true. Silicon valley , pentagon, nasa, harvard and MIT. They dont represent America . The mouth breathing TMZ / Idol crowd does. Or the braindead gamer. Or the slice that will never learn teeth are more useful and important than an AR-15 or that a snowball does not debunk science re climate change. Nice informative interesting show folks.

@@deeem-tee799 Unfortunatley no Nationaltiy or country has a monopoly on stupidity.

Classic Time Team.., Geo Phys and Trenches. The Historical offerings in the U.S. is so lame, you almost think its a conspiracy to keep our citizens as dumb as possible.

@@51WCDodge - Unfortunately, the USA couples stupidity with arrogance, and it isn't pretty.

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I heard about Time Team when it was first airing, in the late 1990s. From California. By 2015, I was able to watch it on RU-vid, thanks to this fab channnel. I cannot express enough gratitude

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HAHA yes their editors are so cheeky. There's lots of great Easter eggs like that.

***** fuck you, republican

***** Unfortunately the party allegiance of the US president is barely relevant among the reasons for the US entry into the wars that you list. And there is little evidence that Republican presidents would have acted any differently when faced with the same circumstances. Wilson won the election in 1916 on a non-intervention ticket after all, while the Republicans had supported intervention during the previous administrations. His defeated opponent, C E Hughes was highly critical of Wilson's anti-war stance during the election campaign. The US entry into WW2 against Japan was inevitable after Pearl Harbour and it was Hitler who declared war on the US. If he hadn't it is conceivable that US forces would not have been deployed in Europe, although advancing Soviet forces into Europe make that unlikely. The Korean War, still described by the US as a 'police action', was a reaction to a communist invasion of an ally, and, like Vietnam, it is difficult to see the US remaining on the sidelines during communist expansion in the midst of the Cold War. At the time the fear of communist domination of Asia was intense and real. Eisenhower deserves great credit for restraining his generals desire to deploy atomic weapons once the Korean 'action' had become stalemated. The agreement that brought hostilities to an end was a compromise, the two Koreas remain technically at war and the US continues to keep a significant military presence in the south. Nixon, a man with strong anti-communist credentials, in fact escalated the Vietnam War, particularly in the air, when he became president. It was Congress that ended direct military involvement in 1973, an action that both Nixon and Kissinger attempted to delay. By the time Saigon fell to Vietminh forces in 1975 and the US made their final ignominious retreat from Vietnam, Nixon had resigned. Finally, Truman's decision to deploy atomic weapons is another one that has little relevance to party affiliations. There remains a strong and credible argument that dropping atomic bombs saved both Allied and Japanese lives. An invasion of Japan, after the experiences of various Pacific islands and particularly Okinawa, was expected to be incredibly costly in lives, especially American ones. Faced with the choice of Japan becoming a horrific charnel house and with the fear of Soviet advances into Manchuria expanding into China and northern Japan, the more limited devastation of Hiroshima & Nagasaki was regarded as the lesser of two evils. Would a Republican president have made the same decision? I would say almost certainly 'yes'.

I served in the Calgary Highlanders as a reservist (never went overseas) for 4 years.

I'm from Calgary, always intrigued and proud to hear of Canadian, especially local Canadian, service. It's hard to imagine the war, especially when it took place so far from home

Charles Millar I would like to express my deepest thanks and gratitude to your dad for serving in the army to fight for all our freedom. o7

Need to learn the weapon itself also.

In countless wars men and women who have gone to fight for their country go into a hell they had not bargained for. Confusional Insanity/Shell-shock and ‘Post Traumatic Stress Disorder’ are conditions which affect a good percentage of soldiers who go on active service. It sounds so simple to say he/she suffered from shell-shock. But when you consider Its symptoms are comprised of physical and psychological components, including stuttering, crying, trembling, paralysis, stupor, mutism, deafness, blindness, anxiety attacks, insomnia, confusion, amnesia, hallucinations, nightmares, heart problems, vomiting, and intestinal disorders you realise it is actually a terrible thing. Soldiers suffering from shell shock are unable to fight and pose difficult problems for the medical corps, morale, and military discipline. I myself was in the vicinity of a massive bomb blast and I suffered from shell-shock for years. Even now 37 years later I cannot take it when people play treble bass music it feels like a blast hitting me with every beat. But eventually you can get over shell-shock. ‘Post Traumatic Stress Disorder’ however haunts people for life and destroys their ability to function normally. My grandfather was one of the soldiers who fought in WWI. The totally senseless trench warfare in France was unimaginably stupid and inhumane on all sides. When he got home he was probably told to “get over it.” I don’t think he ever did. From Mom’s stories I believe he suffered from ‘Post Traumatic Stress Disorder’ and often had terrible ‘flash backs’. When he was dying he had a high fever and had to be restrained by grown men as he had his rifle in hand and wanted to kill everyone on sight. He was reliving the battle. Shame. There are many thousands of ex soldiers today worldwide who suffer from ‘Post Traumatic Stress Disorder’. Many commit suicide and those that survive do not know how to deal with life when they try to live in the civilian sector. Many are not able to hold jobs and are unable to get on with their normal lives. They have to have psychological counseling and often medication to continue with their lives. Many refuse this treatment because of the stigma of getting Psychological help. It is a terrible condition and unfortunately a very real dark side to war. Best wishes

My grandfather was a stretcher bearer in WWI. He told my mom one story about his service that when he and his partner went over the top a German Soldier attacked them. Stretcher Bearers weren't allowed to carry guns but Grandpa's partner pulled out his knife and dispatched him and then they went about their job of getting the men: wounded first, dead second and body parts last. He came home a very changed man, an alcoholic and he suffered from shell-shock. He met my Grandmother around 1940 and he got sober, they married had 4 children and 12 grandchildren.

@@lameesahmad9166 Thank you very much for sharing this, what a terrible, terrible price to pay.

@@kjsalomonsen9299 that's an odd to the merits of finding a good woman.

That could add to your handicap, eh ?

Moving targets ?

I don't know about the maxim guns but I do know that the Bantu were also butchered by them. The white farmers in the Western Cape, South Africa used to hide these people on their farms to protect them from the British soldiers. In Zimbabwe (at that time Southern Rhodesia) the British Soldiers in the early 1900's burnt 4 miles square of the land at a time and then butchered most of the Shona people and only kept a few to work for them. Cecil John Rhodes the British Governor at the Cape was touted as a gentleman and a hero, but he was actually a perverted cruel tyrant. It was mostly on his orders that this was done. Later generations of settlers in Mashonaland district were totally different and had a respect for the people. But even though their own family had nothing to do with the initial slaughter they were never allowed to forget what had happened to the Shona people as per Rhodes's orders and they had to leave the country even though a lot of them were born there. But we must not 'tar with the same brush' all of the British soldiers. In World War I the British government used the media to make people believe that their lives were threatened. Patriotically the naive men went to sign up believing that their country was being threatened. However, nothing could be further from the truth. The war was supposed to be a small quick war over a minor land dispute by Kaiser Wilhelm. Instead it got turned into a lengthy war that was joined by powers all over the globe due to a variety of existing treaties dating back as much as 75 years before the war started. There was no reason for the war and it was unimaginably inhumane. Men on both sides found themselves fighting people they had no quarrel with. Starting on Christmas Eve 1914, many German and British troops sang Christmas carols to each other across the lines, and at certain points the Allied soldiers even heard brass bands joining the Germans in their joyous singing. At the first light of dawn on Christmas Day, some German soldiers emerged from their trenches and approached the Allied lines across no-man’s-land, calling out “Merry Christmas” in their enemies’ native tongues. At first, the Allied soldiers feared it was a trick, but seeing the Germans unarmed they climbed out of their trenches and shook hands with the enemy soldiers. The men exchanged presents of cigarettes and plum puddings and sang carols and songs. There was even a documented case of soldiers from opposing sides playing a good-natured game of soccer. (there were thousands of men doing this) Some soldiers used this short-lived ceasefire for a more somber task: the retrieval of the bodies of fellow combatants who had fallen within the no-man’s land between the lines. The so-called Christmas Truce of 1914 came only five months after the outbreak of war in Europe and was one of the last examples of the outdated notion of chivalry between enemies in warfare. It was never repeated-future attempts at holiday ceasefires were quashed by officers’ threats of disciplinary action-but it served as heartening proof, however brief, that beneath the brutal clash of weapons, the soldiers’ essential humanity endured. Best wishes

Hilaire Belock-The Modern Traveller 1898.

@@lameesahmad9166 an interesting but true account to what has happened in South Africa. Unfortunately history and the books about it were,are and always will be, written bz the winners.

Your ancestors

Plus a large impressive memorial in London.

Then go on a dig. Lots of mud , hard work , and nothing, until! That magic moment when What's that? Doesn't matter what it is I FOUND IT!!! Now what is it , why is it and why is it here? That's what makes hostory intresting. :-)

Really? Excellent. I loved those books when I was a boy. Good to see the man behind them.

WileyRedBear he late served at the RFC camp at Marske by the Sea. The hangars lasted until the 1990; none of the buildings survived.

What a great bit of trivia, thank you!

Ha ha ha the sounds of a machine gun firing blanks would have unnerved them being caught in a exposes open field.

I know but it seems so sad that I know so little about my uncles now that they are gone.

Better to forget that bullshit, lest younger generations get stupidly enamored again with patriotism, nationalism, and jingoism and start the whole death slaughter fest all over, with Death laughing all the way at humanity.

Newfoundland (Canada now but part of Britain then) has a pretty good information base on what the Newfoundland Regiment (Royal Newfoundland Regiment now) did in that war. Huge losses that ruined the population here. Proud but painful.

@David Johnson mr bitter was here

+Deep Ashtray Interesting they call lead toxic when it literally comes out of the ground in the 1st place. Go figure.

+liljgoneman Same how oxygen and CO2 are considered "hazardous" when it is in a cylinder.

well oxygen and co2 are hazardous gases if you have enough of it in the kind of concentration those bottles contain.

A photo is a freeze of one fraction of a second. What happned the fraction before and after? That', plus it is one hell of an adreninlin rush treasure hunt is why you dig.

Moving targets ?

Harry Ford Swing by Knob Creek something

I was trained at Fort Dix in NJ. I can remember being at a camp site where members of my platoon and I had hiked 10 miles to get too. During the march, and into the night you could hear live fire from 5 miles away. Machine gun, rifle fire, and heavy artillery can give you a sense of the battle field conditions. To answer your question? At 300 yards, yes they can. The person calling out should have declared this "was a live fire with blank ammunition"

one had a pear of brown pants on,,,,lol

David Frobel 'Pear' is a type of fruit.

yorkshire magneteers youtube has videos of finds

We did but as said the Hun came back for a second go and blew most of iyt up!

Doesn't matter really, we clobbered them twice in a row.

Lots of records were lost in the bombing of London in WW2. I was lucky to find my grandfathers Reg #!

@@margporter6294 I was only being flippant with the video. I meant no offense to the honored memory of your grandfather, may he rest in peace. Of course, the people of that blessed island nation are not known for incompetence, but rather the opposite. Therin lies the joke. I have nothing but respect for the parent nation of my country and the sacrifices of her population to give us the liberty and prosperity the English speaking world enjoys.

@@51WCDodge perhaps if you stored them at the bottom of mine shafts in Wales, or somewhere of no worth that wouldn't be bombed, like Oxford

+dave Drolett Mr. Maxim would disagree with your timeframe.

+liljgoneman We do know Richard Gatling invented the first forerunner to the actuarial machine gun. This weapon was introduced during the last years of American Civil War.

Correct. But that's a little like a computer with a handcrank powersource :)