Timeusb 12V 200Ah LiFePO4 Battery Review & Teardown, Cheap GFB Batteries!

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Today we'll be taking a look at the 12V 200Ah LiFePO4 battery from Timeusb. They also have a new DC power distributor box that allows for easy charging of various devices via USB, DC barrel plug, or a standard automotive accessory port.
WARNING: Lithium batteries are dangerous and can result in fire! This video is NOT intended to be instructional or a "how-to" lesson. I am not a professional. Do not attempt anything you see here without first contacting a certified and/or licensed professional.
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00:00 Introduction
00:42 Feature Overview
02:10 DC Power Box
04:07 Capacity Test
04:47 Disassembly
08:17 BMS Details
09:00 High-Temp Test
09:32 Conclusions
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@LithiumSolar Год назад

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@goodluck2404 Год назад

on amazon it is currently unavailable.....

@LithiumSolar Год назад

@@goodluck2404 It's still in stock. Perhaps the seller doesn't ship to your location.

@goodluck2404 Год назад

@@LithiumSolar ah ok thanks

@BradCagle Год назад

I think Timeusb is my new favorite budget king. I tore town the 12v 100ah pro, built very well. Great vid!

@TechmanSolar Год назад

It's great to see you back! Keep up the good work man :)

@menglei6301 Год назад

Hi,bro No matter what others say about your videos, I'm with you as always because thanks so much for your presentation on the ADCBATT 12v 100ah lifepo4 battery, I bought them from Amazon and they're working great so far. I have seen people say they miss your videos on making batteries, in fact I think either video is a good video as long as it can be helpful to others, stick to yourself.

@Mazlem Год назад

It'd be interesting to watch you do more with the batteries after testing / teardown. Putting them back together if they're good, upgrading those with weak points, using parts to make a whole new setup, etc.

@LithiumSolar Год назад

Yeah there's more coming here in the spring hopefully as I rebuild some things. I just don't have a lot of time to make videos anymore, as evidenced by it being 2 months since my last...

@tsp2jxd Год назад

@@LithiumSolarhow about a EG4 3000W EV 48v with an EG4 Life power 100ah battery AND 4 12v in series for another 100ah. I have 4 Weize 12v 100ah. Show how it works off of a buss bar and describe if communications can be done with battery and inverter if batteries above are paralleled. Always curious about that. 💯👍

@clarencewiles963 Год назад

Thumbs up on both channels. Nice junction box and a great idea 💡

@stevebeals3862 Год назад

Just bought 2 50 ah batteries , this company rocks , great owners manual for us dummies , a five star from me .

@coletrain3333 Год назад

Definitely sound like a bot... Or someone with the company these batteries are trash.

@simplyfocus9937 Год назад

@@coletrain3333 lol, they didn't mention the price $800 for a 12V battery. DIY no more??? Hello!!!!

@RamblinBobReviews Год назад

Thank you for the tear down :) P.S. We have been watching your channel ever since you put the all-in-one battery on the dolly !!!!! P.P.S. :)

@DjPsYcOtIc Год назад

Cheers, and owww another channel, subb'ed! - keep up the good work, all the best from England.

@jasonbroom7147 Год назад

Another exceptional video, per your usual standards. Your videos are among the very few that I will watch from beginning to end. Something I do wish you had gone into on this video, and could maybe cover in a "short", is the rated (and actual) output of the DC box connections. It's odd to me that they have a 40-amp cable connecting to it when every one of those potential loads, if running simultaneously, wouldn't even draw half that many amps! :) I'm mostly interested in whether or not those USB-C outputs are 100w, as that is what is need to power some modern devices. ETA - Found a video showing the user manual where they list the USB-C output at 45W...not horrible, but also not enough to run a laptop, unfortunately. Also, the 11AWG cable it comes with is rated to 20 amps, at that length. To route a full 40 amps through the box you would need to build a cable using 8AWG wires, which is no big deal, but worth noting. I'm not sure I'd want to push 40 amps through that box anyway, not without inspecting the internal bus bar to determine if it would really stand up to that kind of current. Do you think they could have put 4 of the 280AH battery cells into that box? Thanks for another excellent review video!

@simplyfocus9937 Год назад

Jason one cell is always better than 2 cells in parallel, but it is cheaper for manufacturer to pack 2 100ah cells instead of 1 200ah cell

@jasonbroom7147 Год назад

@@simplyfocus9937 - Why is it cheaper for a manufacturer to use two 100AH cells when it is certainly much less expensive, for consumers, to buy one 200AH (or larger) cell?

@Golfreak Год назад

Awesome video. Hoping you can review Timeusb 220ah metal case battery next.

@Angkasa_Berkah Год назад

thanks for your presentation about ADCBATT 12v 100ah lifepo4 battery. very good video

@toddcoscia6891 Год назад

I have a 36 volt golf cart and been watching your videos and you seemed to know your stuff what batteries would you think would be the best thank you

@SebastianBerlinski-tp7cg Год назад

Thank You for these excellent reviews. Do you know why there are series/parallel connection limitations on these batteries? I currently use battery pack made of 10 x 12v gel batteries connected in series with total voltage of 120v and would like to replace the gel units with LiFPo4 units. Unfortunately manufacturers state the max limits for series connection usually up to 4. Do you know why? Is the battery pack built of 10 LiFPo4 units connected in series not going to work? I intend to charge each unit in the pack individually with its own 12v charger. Thank you for your input / opinion on this.

@1akmason 6 месяцев назад

I recently purchased their 24V 200ah 200a battery for how inexpensive it was compared to other Lipo batteries of the same configuration I’m impressed with just how well it works

@Roll2Videos Год назад

Lol, I got worried by your title, Made me think GFB cells are bad... In my review video, I was excited to see GFB. Happy to hear your approval of them. 🍻

@LithiumSolar Год назад

YES great cells! They're used in a lot of batteries (most notably SOK) and haven't heard of anyone having trouble with them anywhere.

@SC-yw6hj Год назад

Please review power needs for vehicle based, mostly 12v/120 appliances vs household appliances. Also, how to build install a portable system for vehicle use and be able to disconnect from or vehicle grounding, to then hook-up to home based panels and grounding. Thanks

@CandSMINING Год назад

Very interesting. Lots of great information. Thanks for sharing. Going over to your other channel. 😎😎⛏⛏🔥🔥

@homehub81 Год назад

How about you dive in and share your findings on the Lisuateli 12v 100ah lifepo4? I'm eager to see what you would discover!

@Bartbobo 4 месяца назад

I have this Timeusb battery and I also have the Powerqueen 190ah With the 150a BMS ..and wondering if I can parallel the 2 iv seen many videos on doing so with very different AH 12v lifepo4 batteries so I'm hoping it be ok .. just want to bounce that off your thoughts

@McCuneWindandSolar 11 месяцев назад

not a bad price and I was thinking would make a good battery for a Camper but then the blow freezing turned me off. Some times it can get cold here. and I don't want to destroy the battery. but I guess I wouldn't really use it in the winter and would be connect to power. Be nice for 12volt devices in the camper.

@si12volt1 8 месяцев назад

They have a plus and a pro.... What is the difference both have the 200ah 200A BMS

@mwint1982 Год назад

I like the little box, for the price I wish it acted like a charger, mppt or from AC

@offgridwanabe Год назад

Same quality testing you have quite a list of batteries tested, good job.

@TundeEszlari Год назад

Good video.

@vanmasterflash7153 Год назад

Yes more free battery reviews

@LithiumSolar Год назад

I can't tell if that's a good thing? Or sarcasm? Lol?

@posteroonie Год назад

No Bluetooth on the BMS? I wonder at what price point Bluetooth starts being available. I'm glad that good LFP batteries have come down so much in price.

@LithiumSolar Год назад

Nope, no bluetooth on this model. I personally don't find it to be a useful feature on batteries so I'm fine with that.

@12345....... Год назад

Can anyone recommend a book on basics of building a solar system? Looking to set up a system for a 5th wheel. Thanks in advance

@JM-yx1lm Год назад

Will prowse has a book I believe on Amazon. I think it's called diy mobile solar power

@JayMS916 Год назад

Is there an advantage to using eight 100AH cells versus four 200AH? I like that distributor box. First time I saw one was by Kickass (Australian company). Might try a homebrew version. Looks like a fun project.

@Sylvan_dB Год назад

They probably buy a lot of 100ah cells, so using them is likely cheaper. The size / form factor of 100ah cells probably makes packaging easier. For most applications that's likely the most significant factor but chemistry of the electrolyte distribution within the cells is usually better with smaller cells, but the number of interconnections can be a disadvantage. Licitti has what looks to be the same distribution box much cheaper.

@Roll2Videos Год назад

Four 200Ah wouldn't be as heavy as eight 100Ah cells. That's the only difference I can think of.

@JayMS916 Год назад

@@Sylvan_dB That makes sense. I checked out the Licitti products. Yeah, way cheaper. Probably cheaper than what I could build one for.

@randybobandy9828 Год назад

@Roll2Videos the weight difference is negligible. Only real difference is form factor and also less connections

@Roll2Videos Год назад

@@randybobandy9828 It is aluminum case cells; You are correct not much of a difference.

@raygibson1295 11 месяцев назад

Bro, how can I safely remove those busbars from those cells?

@massriver Год назад

👍Nice. Guess straps aren't functional,not for mobile use. Too bad on choice of retaining plastic. If a 18v+ solar panel+diode was feed direct, with out charge controller, think it would shut off if full charged?

@LithiumSolar Год назад

No, you can't tie a solar panel directly to it. You will need a charge controller that either has a LiFePO4 option or allows you to program the voltage points.

@syedafaqahmed10824 5 месяцев назад

Can we add 40 batteries in series to make 480 VDC battery bank for industrial UPS.

@LithiumSolar 5 месяцев назад

No. These batteries do not support series connections beyond 48V (4 batteries).

@todamnbad Год назад

Off topic for this video but do you habe a recommendation for a budget friendly 60 volt 5 amp bench power supply?

@volvo09 Год назад

I got one of the cheap generic ones off Amazon years ago and it has been fine. I don't think you can really go wrong. They're all rebranded stuff.

@JM-yx1lm Год назад

I've been using the cheap generic one off Amazon for years now. I use it for EVERYTHING and I do mean everything,from charging lawnmower battery's to powering rc cars for testing to charging 48v battery's on my solar system and even wheelchair battery's. I've even left it in the rain once and I blew all the water out and it's been perfectly fine still

@SilverTreasures Год назад

Prices across the board have increased over the past few months.

@Lou10antD4n 11 месяцев назад

Do you still have to run a charge controller with these batteries?

@LithiumSolar 11 месяцев назад

Absolutely. The BMS is there for safety purposes, it is not designed to replace a properly-configured charge controller.

@jlustig83 Год назад

Have you tested pionergy lifepo4 batteries from ebay??

@LithiumSolar Год назад

Nope, should I?

@jlustig83 Год назад

@@LithiumSolar yes. That's the cheapest battery I could find.

@LithiumSolar Год назад

The cheapest price I'm seeing on ebay is $290 for a 12V 100Ah. Are you seeing it cheaper somewhere?

@jlustig83 Год назад

@@LithiumSolar I meant the 12v 200ah one for $549

@johnkelly7264 Год назад

Unfortunately already unavailable on Amazon.

@LithiumSolar Год назад

It's still in stock. That usually happens if you're in a region (or have a shipping address in a region) that the seller won't ship to.

@OffGridAussiePrepper Год назад

I want to power box dammit..... :)

@brianmorgan5880 Год назад

Kinda miss the days when you built batteries instead of reviewing them.

@LithiumSolar Год назад

Oh I fully agree and do appreciate the feedback. I enjoy building much more, but I feel I've reached a point with the LiFePO4 that either it's all been done already or I've already covered it in some way. I guess I just have to come up with new ideas on how to assemble differently.

@mdunbar04 Год назад

@@LithiumSolar I just started watching Mike G on RU-vid he does high voltage DC. 72 cells in series. 🤯🤯

@thatonebeone Год назад

Do they really have to make the case that big lol

@billykulim5202 Год назад

why this channel only review batteries, and inverter, where are the solar panel review? its called lithium solar, but he only care review lithium

@LithiumSolar Год назад

There's not THAT much free space in there, only a few pieces of foam. And yes, I mostly look at batteries. Is there something specific with panels you're wanting to see? I'm always looking for ideas...

@billykulim5202 Год назад

@@LithiumSolar hey thanks, i really like you compare the most efficient panel in the market

@tsp2jxd Год назад

@@LithiumSolarStill would like to see charging of 4 12v 100ah in series via bus bars that is already set up with an EG4 server rack battery and EG4 3000w 48v EHV. Curious if the communications can still be used and accurate for the EG4 set up while the other four 12v batteries charge and help with load. Any server rack/inverter combo can suffice. Thanks!

@hubertnnn Год назад

I wish they had 48V version of that box

@davidabineri908 Год назад

Does not seem "CHEAP"! Looks like a good inexpensive pack.

@LithiumSolar Год назад

Not cheap quality but cheap price!

@KptnBlowFly Год назад

@@LithiumSolar 630 bucks? That's freakn expensive.

@LithiumSolar Год назад

@@KptnBlowFly It's expensive compared to what? Most LiFePO4 batteries of this capacity are more expensive...

@KptnBlowFly Год назад

@@LithiumSolar an EVE EEL 105 Ah is here in Thailand something about 150 bucks.

@Derekisastro Год назад

What you gotta remember though, is your not just paying for the cells. It's the cables, BMS, etc. I agree that the price seems "not cheap" ... I mean for $1200 I can pick up cells in the USA that have about 7.5 kWh capacity ... so double the price for 3 times the capacity ... However, once you spend $100+ on a BMS, then consider cables, lugs, etc ... the cost comparison becomes less advantageous. It's still cheaper but by a lot less than you first think (and that's not really considering the time you need to put in versus a plug and play batter like this).

@KuntalGhosh Год назад

i saw a 1star review from a dude measuring the battery energy capacity with a kill a watt meter and it supposed to be 1280w/hr but it made only 1060w/hr . i wish amazon had a way for us to reply to these stupid 1 star reviews with people who don't know what they doing and expecting 100% efficiency from their china inverters.

@erroneouscode Год назад

I hate cases that are larger than needed for the contents. Using foam blocks etc to pack out the case is BS. Space is generally at a premium when lithium batteries are used in leisure vehicles etc.

@boreman2943 Год назад

This video is an example of why its important to actually talk to the manufacturer about their product. If you had you would have found info that they don't have in their battery documentation. According to TimeUsb these are all used cells out of EV buses, not new cells. They have already been used for 1000- 1500 cycles out of the 4000 cycle life span. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-chm5RHfiugQ.html

@LithiumSolar Год назад

No. He has a different battery. His battery contains as 230Ah CATL cells which are being sold as 200Ah. The cells I have here are 100Ah GFB cells that still test at new capacity. They are not used cells.

@johnmirbach2338 Год назад

😎✌🖖👍👌🤓

@stimpy1715 Год назад

Yawn.

@vancey6072 Год назад

I think it's time to stop gushing over batteries without low temp sensor tech built in. For god's sake... it's 2023. And what is up with the physical size of these things? Can they not figure out a way to put the cells inside smaller cases?

@dave3005 Год назад

@vancey6072 Год назад

@@dave3005 Dave the "Dushe" has entered the chat.

@randybobandy9828 Год назад

I agree with the low temp cut off. There should be a simple aftermarket solution that someone can use maybe a temp controlled relay that doesn't allow charging below a certain temp.

@vancey6072 Год назад

@@randybobandy9828 All they have to do is add another sensor and use a BMS with low-temp sensing built in. The issue is all these cheap and old BMS's that have flooded the market. Won't See a change until all of these are used up.

@randybobandy9828 Год назад

@vancey6072 I know it's literally a $2 fix for these companies but ppl keep buying them so they don't feel the need.

@ForwardGuidance Год назад

If you want to keep viewer coming to your channel, you might consider making some tutorial/learning/teaching videos because these review/teardown videos are pretty much all the same and so not interesting at all. I skip to the end nearly right away for the conclusion. Just FYI.

@LithiumSolar Год назад

I know. I just don't have much time anymore to be honest.

@ForwardGuidance Год назад

@@LithiumSolar Fair enough. Thank you.