Hoots: "Next time I come back to present, we're gonna take that fork in the road in the radical white supremacist movement post McVeigh, and we're gonna talk about Columbine and the birth of the modern American mass shooter." Henry Kissinger: "I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move"
This happened when I was nearly 2 months old, so my poor parents were even more horrified than they already would have been by the 19 kids being "collateral damage". They didn't send me or my siblings to any type of daycare until we started pre-school, and I often wonder if part of that was fear. I grew up in a city which is home to two military bases, so it wasn't exactly an unfounded fear.
My mom was 4 months pregnant with me. I got so lucky that she didn't decide that this was too much. FOR THE RECORD, this is not a forced birth statement, just being glad to be alive.
I was 8 when this happened, and it was the first cultural tragedy I was concious of. Im 37 now and a mother and I have a paralyzing fear of ever sending my son to a daycare facility.
As someone who also got bullied for being skinny, it is a real thing. Men are expected to be masculine and not skinny and model-like. I hated it. Never bombed people though
Happens to girls too. I had a friend who was really underweight (still is), and she was bullied pretty relentlessly at school for it. Kids even used to mocklingly call her anorexic and tell her to go puke etc (ftr she didn't have an eating disorder, she just had an insane metabolism). Doesn't really matter if it's fat or thin, kids will heavily bully anything not part of the norm, and I don't think it's entirely fair of them to make light of one body weight bullying when the other tends to be taboo these days.
Yeah. I've been underweight pretty much all my life, and not intentionally. It absolutely is something people can be bullied for. Especially men, but even women, too. Not trying to defend Timothy here, but I don't feel it's in good taste to make fun of being skinny.
This is horrific. Also what are these mental gymnastics between "I realized they're just people and the carnage was horrible" and "oh let's blow up a building because fuck these random people who haven't done anything". On that note, I also just wanted to say I appreciate how you covered all these background aspects and related incidents in the last episode leading up to this, it really provides a more coherent picture with added context. Thank you for all the work you do!
Quick note re collateral damage - this is deliberately referencing the US military's way of referring to civilian casualties, particularly during Gulf War I. As far as McVeigh was concerned he had hit a legitimate target, and the civilian casualties were just collateral: just like, for example, the 408 Iraqi women and children killed in the Amiriya shelter bombing in 1993 (two 2,000lb bombs dropped onto a civilian bomb shelter).
not to come back and comment on relatively ancient videos but i've been binging your entire back catalog this weekend and just wanted to thank y'all as a chronically ill wheelchair user and longtime disability justice advocate, both in this series and the columbine episodes, for touching on the lifelong disabilities these events leave people with or the way disabled people are targeted in them. abled creators really don't talk about this as much as they should, and i really appreciate it - if you ever do future episodes where this is also a factor, if you could want to delve more into that, disaster and emergency response is still basically to leave us for d**d to this day, i've been left in stairwells, been left in possible fires, been told i'd be left behind in shootings, etc etc. it's very disheartening to know how little you're valued being reflected in how even first responders treat you, even after so much time with this as a known problem, and we disproportionately die or are targeted accordingly, and even more depressing to know that that problem persisting means a less accessible world for people who are newly disabled by events like these. thanks again!
Nitromethane gas is called "top fuel" and is used in those super long drag racing cars that use parachutes and shit. The fast and furious chemical is nitrous oxide
I can't help but think about how the guy who perpetrated the Vegas shooting was also deep in gambling debt and how gambling is getting so normalized in these recent days
Y'alls coverage of this is amazing. Again, it's so important to make it clear how these are connected events. Thanks so much for taking psychic damage to do this work. Take care of yourselves.
I still find it hilarious that he basically played two songs on repeat while in the army: White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane and Bad Company by Bad Company (off the album Bad Company)
4:06 It’s like the villain in Meet the Robinsons, when he was a little kid walking through the school hallway some kids called out casual greetings to him and in his head he goes, “They all hated me.”
The memorial museum is amazing, but they should have built it a few years early because they could have had famous Oklahoma with a great voice James Garner to narrate the museum instead of Kristin Chenoweth, whose voice was very jarring considering the emotion is the place.
As a Gen Xer, nothing upsets me more (ok so much upsets me more, but we are known for hyperbole so let's go with it) than seeing high school classmates sharing minions memes on Facebook. Have some fucking self respect people, no wonder your kids don't talk to you anymore. I mean, and everything else.
In 1995 we thought there was actually going to be a cultural shift that wholly and uncategorically rejected the TMV/Turner "movement." The nightly news legit called them what they were, far right fash tourists (I think that's also the word for people who 💣🏢s). I think the overriding theme of the '90s (at least for people with my skin tone) was misguided hope. Now we elect people like Timmy here to federal office. So... uh, yeah, looks like he got what he wanted.
One of our cats is named Milo but is an absolute noodle in that he’s slinky and his brain is made of spaghetti. So he gets called Noodle more often than not
Out of the night that covers me, Black as the Pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul. In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud. Under the bludgeonings of chance My head is bloody, but unbowed. Beyond this place of wrath and tears Looms but the Horror of the shade, And yet the menace of the years Finds, and shall find, me unafraid. It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.
Genuinely huge respect to Dr. Andrew Sullivan and his crew for refusing to leave a survivor behind. A true hero in the face of an utterly horrific tragedy.
