J.K. Rowling's Legacy 

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If Hermione was black, J.K. would've named her something under researched and stereotypical like every other character of color in the books.

I think my absolute favourite part about the transvestigators was the one that was given a picture of JK Rowling and went "that's 100% a man" lmao

“Women authors were unheard of…” Ursula K Le Guin publishing multiple fantasy and science fiction books for children and adults: *surprised pikachu face*

I remember I was not even very well informed about trans people when the whole people who menstruate thing happened and even at the time I pointed out that there's plenty of cis women who do not menstrate. It takes about two seconds to think about.

I'm middle aged and British, so I was pleased I managed to like this video instead of taking a screenshot. 😂

"I was already radicalized into severe homosexuality." Welp, that's how I'm referring to my coming out from now on

FUN FACT about Dumbledore being gay: it's 100% a stereotype thing. The Schoolyard Pastoral genre the series was based on tended to have gay-coded headmasters as a recurring stock character, to the point where critics of the genre tended to kind of roll their eyes at it

Sappho's love poetry did not survive this long for her to be forgotten like this!

Agatha Christie was real. And her biggest scandal was when she went missing and when she was found, she feigned amnesia. Oh, and Barbara Cartland and Danielle Steele have both outsold Rowling.

Fun fact, the first recorded written novel was written by a woman! Murasaki Shikibu didn't write The Tale of Genji in probably the year 1000 AD for this

I'm ashamed to say I have an appointment next Saturday to get a harry potter tattoo covered. Never meet your heroes.

The absolute disrespect to the woman authors before Rowling by saying that it was unheard of. Like I guess Virginia Wolf, Mary Shelley, Slyvia Plath, and Ursula K. Le Guin don't exist now (these aren't the only women who ever wrote before J.K, just the ones I know of off the top my head. Also Le Guin wrote wizard of Earthsea which I've heard recommended as a good alternative to the HP books)

The Dumbledore is gay announcement, 100% happened after the last book came out, I remember the day it made the news cycles and I went back and reread some chapters to see if it lined up. I also had Christian family members who were doing the same trying to prove it wasn’t true.

Wizards shitting their pants and waving their magic wand and going "nope, didn't happen" is ironically the *perfect* metaphor for JKR's crappy subtier worldbuilding and her reaction to the consequent controversy.

"People who menstruate" also includes children. Talk about the erasure of the kids she constantly wrings her hands and clutches her pearls about!

i love this format because it reminds me of a work conference call except hoots is talking about one of her high school boyfriends trying to piss his pants deliberately and mandy's nodding along like "yea i'd imagine it'd be pretty hard to do that" this is so funny

"Women authors were unheard of." Mary Shelley, Anne Rice, and Ursula K. Leguin from the goddamn top rope.

No women authors in the fantasy and/or youth audience spaces...except Judy Blume, Beverly Cleary, Madeleine L'Engle, Katherine Peterson, Paula Danziger, Ursula K LeGuin, Margaret Weis, SE Hinton, Gertrude Chandler Warner...

At first I was like, "Wait, Rowlings's dead and this is the first I'm hearing about it?"

Lmao back in 2015 there was an Alabaman woman called Kim Davis who compared herself to Rosa Parks for refusing to give marriage licenses to gay couples. At least she actually got arrested.

I remember when she said Dumbledore was a gay, so I reread all the books again and there was absolutely no indication whatsoever that he was gay. I was disappointed

On the subject of pooping one’s pants, there’s a podcast I listen to called gender fluids and they do a fetish of the week every episode. Apparently there’s a fetish community who “un-potty train” themselves and their subreddit is full of people being like “no seriously, DO NOT DO THIS if you’re not 1000% committed, it’s really hard but once you do it you’re incontinent for life”. Turns out potty training is pretty hardwired

J. K. Rowling, the first woman who ever learn to read. Unfortunately not to write. Baby steps I guess.

When you talked about Jack and Rose fucking the Titanic down, my mind jumped immediately to that season 6 episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer where Spike and Buffy fucked a house down.

I feel like so much of a Pottermania is driven by nostalgia. Once the generation that grew up without it ages out of relevance everyone will forget about it. It has no staying power as a body of work.

On the subject of women who were writing before JKR was, Murasaki Shikibu wrote Genji Monogatari sometime before 1021, which would be at about the same time that Beowulf was first written. In other words, women have been authors for nearly a millennium before Rowling was first published.

It's not quite the same without Hoots lovely singing at the beginning. But it helps I have "worms are eating your eyes" echoing throughout my head all day.

Harry Potter And The Adults Who Should Have Read Another Book By Now.

21:09 JK Rowling is literally doing the same thing E Nesbit did. Actually, I just found a quote of JK saying E Nesbit is a huge source of inspiration and that makes so much sense. Except instead of fighting for social change, she's fighting against it (and against trans people).

I think there’s a decent chance Joanne got her Jimmy Choo idea from Sex and the City, which positively fetishized them. She’s exactly the right age to be a SATC fan.

"I never meant to hurt anyone" is actually consistent in that she doesn't consider trans people to be people

For a second I was like, "OMG she died???" LOL. I hate the way she argues with things nobody said, and she's just so utterly dishonest. Like biological sex is real. No one ever fucking said it isn't! That doesn't mean she knows what it even is, apparently. I also do not understand how the Right think that "Adult Human Female" excludes transfolks. These people have no idea what the fuck they're talking about and lawmakers continue listening to them over actual medical professionals and it makes me want to tear my hair out. Admittedly I'm an angry SJW mom who keeps getting adopted by trans daughters. I despise threats to my family, which JKR continues to make. I'm also angry at the families who fail their trans kids so utterly that their kids wind up adopting me. I'll take them, happily and humbly, and consider their trust in me a gift to be treasured and treated with care. I know my emotions are all over the place probably here. I blame my ADHD meds. Love to all of you, for who you are and what you do.

Saying women authors were unheard of before JKR is crazy when she literally stole from Ursula K. Le Guin...

"women authors were unheard of" SHE'S NOT GONNA SLEEP WITH YOU, WHY ARE THEY LIKE THIS

"JK Rowling was the first woman to be able to study medicine" "Not Dr Quinn medicine terf" this quote killed me lmao

I totally understand the urge to get ironic terf merch. I personally as a masc leaning enby want to buy one of those novelty man cards and carry it around in my wallet for irony purposes.

Pretty sure Jane Austen wants a word with whoever said women authors were unheard of before the mid-90s. 🙃

'Before JK fem authors were unknown' - Austen, the Brontes, George Elliot, Louisa May Alcott, Virginia Woolf, Margaret Mitchell, Ursula Le Guinn and Margaret Atwood and all of us who read them for school or pleasure have entered the chat. Margaret Attwood finds it hilarious while Le Guinn points out nicely she did wizards first and the Worst Witch author who also did Mog points out it might have been her actually.

my hottest take about gay Dumbledore is that I actually believe that she thought about it while writing the books, but that makes it worse. The only gay character in the entire series having a single romantic relationship that was with wizard hitler and then becoming a volcel for the rest of his life, while also not spelling this out directly because actually mentioning gay characters explicitely would have been too "icky" for your childrens book is actually worse then retconning a character to be gay in my opnion

The moment Mandy said "Resident Evil f*cking boss fight", I immediately said, out loud, "Where's my rocket launcher?" (It is a decades-old tradition for the final boss of every game in that series to be taken out with a rocket launcher.)

42:20 "Why are trans women always saying 'Thats Hot'?" Okay but I literally saw a group of TERFs unironically saying this exact thing on one of their shitty little forums before. 🤣

JKR can cry all she wants about how she's misunderstood. She needs to learn that impact matters way more than intent does. Also I don't believe for one moment that she isn't aware of what she's saying.

Tolkien may not have outsold Rowling, but his work is infinitely more influential.

Ok I’m a petty hater so I was imagining a kind of Rowling vs Agatha Christie thing along the lines of t series vs pewdiepie. In some countries including the US some of Christie’s books are out of copyright so I was imagining publishing loads of copies and selling them super cheap, like at cost or for £2 and giving any profits to trans healthcare funds, while boosting Christie’s sales to keep her well ahead of Rowling. But according to Wikipedia, Christie is over a billion (and possibly up to 3.4 billion) sales ahead of Rowling so we don’t need to do it lol

there are a few small cities who are big into flogging harry potter merch and using harry potter to generate tourism but those places will be fine and have other tourist traps. harry potter is not that important.

This show (and all of your individual channels) are so CRIMINALLY underrated I cannot. 😭 I wish I had the income to be a top patron for all of you, (maybe I’ll write a book about a wizard boy who isn’t transphobic or based in a neoliberal garbage world and become RICH) but in the meantime I’m just gonna keep pestering every leftist I know until they watch everyone’s content.

Agatha Christie wrote so much racism into her books that they edited out some and one of her titles was changed long ago to remove the n-word. One of its replacement titles was only slightly better but still focused on a marginalized community, Native Americans. It’s now called And Then There Were None (the last line in the nursery rhyme that inspired the titles, and that makes the first two title choices even worse when we consider the violence and genocide done to these groups of people). We hear so many times that people “were a product of her time” but she was living in some of our lifetimes. She’s the age of many of our parents or grandparents/great grandparents. And even if she’d been born earlier there’s always been people who knew better (through experience or compassionate, critically thinking). She had her chance to change and she made her terrible choices. Go ahead. Desecrate her grave, disrespect her death.

Agatha Christie was, to the best of my knowledge, kinda (majorly) racist. Plenty of criticisms to be made of her. There are defo worse people to make episodes about, but she wouldn't be out of place in a RTD episode

Can't believe you're cancelling the first ever woman :( unsubscribed

I haven’t heard anything out of place about Agatha Christie, but according to the film with Helena Bonham Carter, Enid Blyton was a pretty awful mother

"Oh no! Not a Biblically accurate TERF!" *deceased*

the studio tour is still a thing. I was in london on a classtrip last november and a large part of the group went there. (and there's hp themed shops and merch everywhere 🙄).

"that is paris hilton and also natalie wynn" jsklfjsdlkfsjdl noooo 😭😂

I want Shut Up Joanne to trend every time she opens her mouth lmfao

If there's one thing I have to really be annoying about: I hate how people forget she also targets trans men but no one really cares 😅

if you look, the video thumbnail is the start of transformation for a biblically accurate terf, (b.a.t. i guess... unfortunate acronym wow)

Hey Caelan - did you do one on Magdalen Berns or did I imagine that? I could’ve sworn I saw one

I'm a trans woman and I bought a pair of the jimmy choo sailor moon boots 😭

Willie Muse, a wonderful youtuber who does reviews of lots of things primarily actually admitted that back in the day he worked at a content farm where you had to put together "10 list of bs" type things, and he was tasked with doing something on stuff Rowling made up. IIRC he himself edited a screenshot to say the poop thing. Rowling never said it, he did. He has a video on his channel about this I have to say that in this case. I'm joining the war against misinfo on the side of misinfo here

Caelan is so effing pretty oh my godddddd. What’re their preferred pronouns btw?

like wait, moaning myrtle lived in the plumbing of a hogwarts bathroom though

Agatha Christie was, like, okay-ish. Her books are a bit problematic at times, but not to any exceptional degree, mostly. She was writing in the early 20th century and she was unfortunately English, what more could we possibly expect

cher is the only person who uses twitter correctly

Every time they talk about Agatha Christie I feel like I'm dying inside! She's real! She's cool! She took mystery to a whole new level and upped the game! This is my English major coming out.

God I would not be mad if this format with the webcams became the new go-to, the lil edits are so fucking funny

damn, at which point was she silenced again? before or after her q&a at carnegie hall?

The painting of Rowling as a trailblazer frustrates me most. Transphobia is tragically common, but seeing how many people have seemingly read absolutely nothing besides Harry Potter and maybe a handful of other books is different. Like I thought about the female novelists before Rowling thing and I came up with a dozen names in just a few minutes, class conflict has been a theme in literature at least since the middle ages (if you count religious texts it goes back to the bronze age), etc

I need Caelan terfchandise in my life. Ideally some sort of goth/vaporwave aesthetic "surf n terf" or "cis my ass" as mentioned around 47:00. Would settle for a ride on the Down With Cis Bus.

I’m having a messed up week, and this ep raised my serotonin levels to the point where I can feel joy again. And you all are too gorgeous!!!

i'm obsessed with the thumbnail for this video because I know she would hate it

I was so confused by the premiere trailer! Not sure if that's a new feature haha, looking forward to this!

33:55 - if it makes you feel better, no. Even in the most misogynistic cultures (ie dark ages europe), rich women were still taught to read, because they needed to be able to read the bible in order to get to heaven. Poor women would have had fewer opportunities to learn how to read than their poor male counterparts, but I still think class was more prevalent than gender in that context.

The K in J.K. stands for Karen. And she's demanding to speak with the manager of trans people.

I dodged such a bullet by finding the last two books of the series kind of bad and not even finishing Casual Vacancy

I wonder, when wizards magicked their poop away, where are the magicking it off to? Was there just a mountain of magicked poop in some remote forest somewhere?

1:27 the discussion between a Home and a Mansion I feel should be similar to the difference between a Boat and a Ship. A Ship is specifically a boat large enough to Carry Another Boat. A Boat is anything too small to carry another boat. Ships have lifeboats in case of failure of the superstructure. A boat has no superstructure. So yes, I agree, a Mansion is a home large enough to Fit Multiple Living Spaces, why a House is only large enough to fit a single living space. An Estate, in this analogy, would be like an Armada. A gathering of many, large and small, arranged for maximum effectiveness for a goal; specifically the goal of Never Having To See Another Human Suffering So You Can Pretend They Don't.

JK Rowling IS dead ... in the novel "Manhunt." It counts.

Well I think J. K. Rowling will be talked about like H. P. Lovecraft.

Intersex people sometimes menstruate so is she saying that Intersex people should be ignored?

I don't know about Rowling's legacy: we forget one thing, Warner Bros, which managed to pick an already successful but not breakthrough book series and turn it as an excuse to put a trademark on an entire aesthetic: the old-timey British magic school

The Carnegie Hall thing- that was almost certainly “an evening with Harry, Carrie, and Garp” Dear god I watched that when it happened

The way Caelan says “you could be a crayon! You could be a cat!” Gets me every time

To my understanding Agitha Christy still has sold more books than JKR. But yeah, no one heard of any women authors before wizard lady lol

I think is extremely important, nay VITAL, for all of you to know one thing: I ate fresh, hot fries while listening to this episode.

The “Dumbledore is gay actually” comment was announced *after* the book was released. I remember bc I went to a midnight release party, and some time later I saw it announced on the morning news. I remember going, “that’s bullshit, actually”, and: “I read him as gay, but I grew up in the culture, I subtext *a lot* of things as gay, that doesn’t make it true”, also, “fake representation ≠ no representation”. Yelling at the tv was involved… 👉🏻👈🏻

Obligatory "jkrowling threw the first brick at stonewall"

This podcast is gold.

Hoots' English accent is excellent! Keep up the good work folks!

I listened to this and left an unfunny comment for the algo 😌

Fun fact, Agatha Christie wrote a book called Ten Little N-words.

Some women still can’t read, Lea Michele for one.

Jokes aside ... I think I've only read 7 books. Or at least I remember reading only 7 books 😂😅😃🙂🙃🥲😭

In her new book Rowling added ableism to her growing collection of bigotry. I wrote about it on my blog if anyone would like to read it just google The Once and Future Cripple and Rowling.

I barely cracked a smile for the entire video and then "Biblically accurate TERF" I almost laughed myself to death. I genuinely could not breathe

I can't tell you how many times I've accidentally called my bf trying to text him. I don't know why it happens with him specifically, but I keep accidentally bumping the button.

Fun Fact: Agatha Christie disappeared for like two weeks in the 20's and it launched a murder mystery style investigation. I guess humans didn't have object permeance until the 50's.

23:20 If anyone wants to know there are a few Harry potter things in England: platform 9 3/4 at king cross , which you have to pay to take a picture at ( it’s stupid) and Harry potter world which is like an irl Harry Potter set thing, but yeah f jk Rowling :3

dumbledore mentions needing a chamber pot in book one, so, like, what's up with that, JK?

"There's fungus growing out of it" OH IF YOU ONLY KNEW HOW WELL THIS COMMENT WOULD AGE