To Adapt A Seuss: The Good, The Bad, and The Loose 

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Fun fact: when jim carrey grinch pulled the sheet out from under the stuff on the table, it was all supposed to come off but he accidentally did the magic trick so he improvised and just knocked all the stuff of hinself.

Fun Fact: For How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000) ,The Whoville set was built mostly on the backlot of Universal Studios behind the Bates Motel. During a break in filming, Jim Carrey surprised and scared tourists on the Universal Backlot Tour by running out of the hotel wearing a dress and brandishing a knife.

Illumination: “We decided to not make the Onceler a bad guy because one-dimensional evil characters don’t exist in real life.” Also Illumination: Creates O’Hare, a one-dimensional evil antagonist for the same film.

I personally don't think giving the Onceler a face is a bad thing. I think they could have done something really powerful with it, and show him becoming more and more Faceless as the movie goes on. In theory, "Biggering" would be the track that plays right before we never actually see his face on screen again, until maybe right at the end. Obviously, they took a great idea like that out back with a shotgun and got rid of it, but still.

i think the worst part of the grinch from illumination is that they did a better job making the grinch when it was gru, he tormented and attacked strangers for fun but still interacted with the world because he needed basic things like coffee and bank loans.

There’s an alternate universe where The Lorax is a rock opera and this film becomes Illumination’s magnum opus.

honestly, blue sky deserves more credit. the charlie brown adaptation is a fantastic adaptation of the art style, and I remember really liking Horton Hears a Who as a kid. Certainly better than illumination recently...

The Jim Carrey Grinch movie deserves so much praise. I grew up with this film and im so thankful I did. Its been a required part of the christmas season to this day.

The fact that the longest segment of this video was about the Lorax, a good chunk of it relating to the Onceler, and not a single joke about the Onceler fandom was ever brought up surprises me more than anything.

Finally a reviewer who doesn't hate the Jim Carrey Grinch

I love how Max's character in the jim carrey iteration of the grinch was very much the grinch's moral compass. In moments where he would attempt to be apathetic or heartless, max would steer him in the right direction to doing the right thing instead. Like when cindy lou fell in the sorting machine and almost got seriously hurt, he was going to leave her but then max intervened to change the grinch's mind. Max's character despite not being able to talk was great.

Someone else has probably already mentioned this, but the most wild part of the Jim Carrey Grinch smile is that IT ISN'T THE MAKEUP. HIS FACE ACTUALLY MAKES THAT SHAPE. There's video out there of him doing it with no makeup and it's like he's made of rubber.

An additional point with how insulting the Illumination Lorax was the massive marketing push. It is kind of sickening honestly how that character was plastered on car ads, Ihop etc. It feels like some kind of nightmare joke where the fucking lorax is used to push an air polluting car.

My problem with the Lorax? The demo song “biggering” shows what that movie COULD have been. It could have been amazing and clearly was going to take itself very seriously. Only for the studio to shut that down in order to appeal to kids even though that goes against everything doctor Seuss stood for

The original lorax story actually scared me as a kid. That final word "unless" completely surrounded by the dead world the onceler created was just such a foreboding image to me, and even at like 6 years old the story hit hard, only to give the message to future generations and inspire hope! During the illumination film... I felt nothing. I actually feel the illumination film's existence almost represents a media version of the soulless corporate takeover the film tried to portray better than the movie itself did.

Carreys “The Grinch” was, in one word, iconic. Truly. Visually, the set and costumes fit the books far better in my opinion, while making great additions for story’s sake. And Jim Carrey for my was the first time I was introduced as a kid to his work. For me, he IS the grinch. So much so that I cant see him as anyone else in his other movie roles. Jim Carrey truly transcended the Grinch and solidified his spot in modern pop culture. ALL of the CGI movies are flops for me. It’s too angsty teen for me, and I personally just don’t like how the 2d art translates… Horton Hears A Who however was fine, but I dint like implementing pop songs randomly for no reason

Easily the best Dr Seuss adaption is Netflix’s Green Eggs and Ham. From the beautiful animation, to the amazing characters, and how faithful it is to Dr Seuss and how it’s even able to stand on its own two feet.

Hey major part of Horton Hears a Who you forgot about was the main message “A person’s a person, no matter how small” and the fact that Jane ends up learning this lesson via the fact that she actually LISTENS TO HER SON. Like throughout the rest of the movie she barely even cares what he has to say and instead just dismisses him as “Just a kid misunderstanding the adults” when he is able to understand everything that’s happening around him and has formed his own opinions on it. And when Rudy actually stands up to her she listens to him for the first time. Just figured I should mention that.

I think the most insulting thing about the changes of the lorax is that it COULD work in a movie runtime without padding if it had GOOD writing This is one of the few Suess stories that has a plot, moral, and something to say! (Not to say that other two stories don't have anything to say, but I mean more in the sense of this one having a much more movie-friendly path)

One pretty solid adaptation that no one talks about is the Cat in the Hat knows a Lot About That, it’s a PBS Kids show about the Cat taking the two kids on little educational adventures. It’s really cute, fun, somewhat Suessical, but the best part is Martin Short as the Cat, he is AMAZING.

I like how pistachios are more Grinch-like than the actual Grinch in the Illumination movie.

One more big problem with Illumination's Lorax film is the speed at which the trees regrow. One of the points the original animation makes is that the Truffula trees take a long time to grow to maturity, which means simply re-planting as you cut down doesn't necessarily work, it takes too long to be profitable. But in the feature film, they grow pretty much instantly, which begs the question why the Once-ler didn't just....start re-planting them? This has always bothered me.

If I had a nickel for every time Illumination missed the point of an antagonist-centered Dr. Seuss story, I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to make a theatrical film around Yertle the Turtle (you know, the story that's based on the rise of Hitler) and twisted it around to make him the victim who was bullied by the other turtles for being small and that him conquering them was him standing up for himself or something.

I completely agree with your take on The Lorax. Not surprising a corporation wouldnt want a character that directly goes against what and who they are. I had zero hope for The Lorax maintaining its message, and was completely vindicated when I watched it with my nieces.

It's interesting how when the lorax presented "unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothings gonna get better, it's not", it was presented to the onceler, and then the onceler pushed the message onto the kid. It's kind of simmilar how companies say the people who should fix the planet are the consumers/individual, and not them.

I'm genuinely surprised nobody's tried to adapt Bartholemew and the Oobleck. Its one of Suess's longer works, has a couple named characters, and a surprisingly terrifying premise.

I think the thing I like most about the 2000's Grinch is the ending with Cindy Lou. The Grinch finding the strength to save the sleigh only after he realizes the only girl who had been nice to him was in danger works really well with the movie's theme. I just wish the movie had one or two more scenes with the two to make that relationship more apparent.

You hit the nail on the head with Chris Meledandri's take on The Lorax. If this was how they approached the story of The Lorax, then it is no wonder at all how it turned out the way it did. Somehow, a book written in 1971 understands the topic better than the person who seems to have made the creative decisions for the film adaptation in 2012.

Perhaps the most telling sign of Illumination’s Lorax adaptation deliberately missing the point of the source material is the fact that their portrayal of the title character was used in car commercials. Not for an electric car, or even a hybrid, but a plain old gas guzzler. You know how badly they screwed up when even modern-day Simpsons can make a clever stab at it: “I am the Bore-ax, I speak for the woods,…” [Cue an SUV like the one in the aforementioned commercials] “…but I’ve plastered my likeness on consumer goods.” Homer: “SELL-OUT!” [Proceeds to literally throw the “Bore-ax” in the garbage]

I actually think the idea of giving the Onceler a face is and can be interesting, if done *correctly*. Adding a face, and then showing it less and less as the film progresses, until he's built a factory and he's faceless, brings a real sense of fascination, i feel. And not only would it not take away the message and overall theme, I feel like making him more faceless as the movie progresses would make it add onto the story's theme about the Onceler being anybody. It's just that Illumination didn't go that route cause it wasnt marketable and sanitized.

My ranking of the Seuss Movie Adaptations: 1. The Grinch (2000) - Classic Christmas movie and great adaptation 2. The Cat in the Hat (2003) - Insane madness but hilarious at the same time 3. Horton Hears a Who (2007) - A fun animated flick with some silly moments 4. The Grinch (2018) - Bad, bad, bad but nice animation 5. The Lorax (2012) - Truly despicable

Horton is definitely the best Seuss character for adaptation. He has clear journeys, and incredibly likable and sympathetic personality, and as you said a well-defined world and characters. There’s a reason his stories are the plot of Seussical

Personally the Jim Carrey Grinch is the only Seuss Adaptation I feel is worth it, you can tell a lot of effort was put into the movie from the sets, costumes, makeup and everything else. There's a legit passion behind it and the story, flawed it may be still contains the same essence and message of the original book, hence the reason it's become one of my favorite Christmas films.

He wasn't a doctor, but they gave him a PhD so he could keep the Dr. in front of his name. Also, I love the Live-Action Grinch because it is the only adaptation where I can see it as a good update - the Whos' commercialism is a lot more insane because commercialism keeps getting worse (YMMV). But in comparison to whatever the fuck the Illumination Grinch was, I'll gladly fight whoever says that one wasn't faithful. The Lorax's story is just fucking sad, because *THE ORIGINAL DEMO SOUNDTRACK* makes up a better film than the one we ultimately got.

I'm glad you gave the live action Grinch the credit it deserves. Definitely not a perfect movie, but it has a lot of great qualities to it and I honestly prefer rewatching that version every Christmas for its additions and interpretation of the Grinch narrative.

I have my own minor issues with the Jim Carrey Grinch but i CANNOT hate it, I absolutely love it and genuinely think its a great Christmas movie and adaptation.

While I did enjoy Jim Carrey's Grinch and even have a guilty pleasure for the Cat in the Hat film, I still brlive that Horton Hears a Who is the closest we've gotten to capturing the spirit of Dr. Seuss since the Chuck Jones Grinch special. Kind of a shame that Blue Sky didn't make more movies based off the books, because they captured the bizarre aesthetic perfectly, even more than either Illumination films.

Finally. The Grinch live action being appreciated in the way it should. Ya love to see it.

The Carrey version of Grinch is my favorite christmas movie of all time. The film gives me loud, crazy destructive energy but its honestly done well. It has some depth that gives a well message when looked into closely. Also the part of the Grinch's rampage on Whoville is a lot of fun

youd think illumination wouldve knocked it out of the park considering gru as a character is literally the grinch

In Russia, Cat in the Hat movie adaptation is considered a hood classic for many reasons. Mainly, not a single kid back then even knew what is a Dr Seuss, and no one read the original books (not mentioning the adaptations that Dr Seuss had direct creative control over). I don't even think that Grinch live-action was in someone's memory (it was shown on TV, but never got attention it deserves), so with The Cat, we had a completely independent movie without any examples of Dr Seuss "done right". And everyone just loved the sheer bizzareness of it! This uncanny valley in everything (especially Mike Myers himself), pop culture reference galore, gross-outs etc. were just chewed up by us and were not considered weird. Even in case that film wasn't liked, it still veered into the "so bad it's good" territory. The Cat In The Hat is even more memetic within Russia than within America, due to the titular character being a mascot for one of the more visionary people in the local RU-vid Poop community, as well as for all the weirdness (not being limited to that baseball bat scene). I always knew it wasn't good, but I just can't force myself to ditch it, it's so charming and nostalgic.

You gotta admit, the Lorax did give us one thing. That gem of the antagonist singing "let it die"

Growing up I loved both the old 2d grinch and the Jim Carey one equally and id say even after all these years I still believe that both are great

robin williams would have been a PERFECT. CAT. he would’ve brought the goofiness, the fun, but also the love, almost father-figure energy, the maturity, and the overall genuine life lessons and joy to the role. it would have been amazing, and they had every opportunity to get him considering he was at his peak when this was made

It always makes me really upset that the Lorax was held back from the fantastic movie it was going to be just because illumination didn't wanna look bad. The version of the movie that had biggering would have genuinely been fantastic, and I really hope there's a musical or something that gets to maintain the movie's original vision from before it was meddled around with so hard that it barely resembles the old book

The Grinch movies going from a capitalist hellscape with blatant themes of commercialism and racism to “this lovable dork can’t handle these sweet, pure, festive townspeople” should be a case study.

Horton Hears a Who is still one of my favorite films of all time. For me, it’s really heartwarming. The mayor, Jojo, Roo, Horton, all of those characters make me feel happy every time I watch the movie. I didn’t mind the filler stuff and that story’s message is something I resonate with because I’ve been dealing with literal size differences since I was born (I’m smaller than avaerage and I’ve stopped growing) “a person is a person, no matter how small.” It’s my favorite Dr. Seuss adaptation. And I really liked the song at the end hehe

Sad thing about the Lorax is they had so many great ideas! They just weren’t used because of time restrictions. 😭😭 They wanted to make a good movie. They had ideas on how the lack of air effected the town in everyday life and wanted to see it have stakes. But of course they were unable.

Honestly the Green Eggs and Ham show is a perfect example of how to adapt Dr Seuss in every aspect. I'm so excited for the new Cat in the Hat movie because Warner Bros Animation knows what they're doing when it comes to Dr Seuss content.

The one good thing that came with Illumination's Lorax is the cut song Biggering. Seriously a great song that fits the themes of the original so much more, with a focus on capitalist ventures having to keep growing and growing infinitely

The best Dr. Seuss adaptation is Neftlix's Green Eggs and Ham, but that's because it has so little to do with the books, the original plots is used very loosely.

Seuss may be hard to adapt, but if you ask me, Seussical (which you alluded to) did a pretty good job of maintaining his tone, messages, and style. For starters, it's a musical, where singing is not only expected but required, meaning the lyrics can be translated quite directly from the works themselves. Even in spoken dialouge, it's in rhyme. The story sticks to a dramatic structure by mostly sticking to the two Horton books, meaning that he has to worry about the Whos and the egg in conjunction - which further emphasizes his kindness, persistance, and dedication. It also throws in two other central characters for a little more of a story. Gertrude McFuzz gets to be our leading lady; she had a short story about her in the same collection as Yertle the Turtle. In her book, she wanted a fancier tail out of jealousy of an acquaintance, but here she has a crush on Horton and wants him to notice her, giving him a flaw of not noticing the needs of the freinds he has around him and still preserving her lesson that she's good enough with a single feather in her tail. We also have another overarching plot, that of a young boy who is implied to create the Seussian world through his imagination, and then is thrust into the role of Jojo, here the Mayor of Whoville's son who gets into trouble for thinking outside the box. He gets to use his imagination to create the word "Yopp" and save the Whos - his development is sort of like what they did with Cindy Lou, expanding upon a very minor character to help reinforce the themes and messages without comprimising the main cast's integrity. Now, the musical also has some clever ways of dealing with the other iconic characters who have had movies to their name. The Grinch is presented as living in Whoville, the events of the musical taking place some time after "How The Grinch Stole Christmas". He hasn't completely lost his grumpy attitude, but he "wouldn't dare to be totally mean" and even leads an annual Christmas pageant based on his adventure! He's not really a main focus, but they can't leave him out, so he's already gone through his character development. The Cat, on the other hand, is too iconic to leave out of focus. Seussical makes him a sort of omnicent narrator figure, the one who drags the boy into the world of Seuss and guides him and the audience through the adventure. He plays multiple minor roles throughout the story, breaks the fourth wall, and generally keeps the plot running by causing trouble for Jojo, Horton, and Gertrude while also being willing to help them out. He's still his happy-go-lucky trickster self, and still willing to clean up his messes when it becomes abundantly clear he's gone too far. As for the Lorax, he was gonna be in the show, but the creators decided he wouldn't really add anything and his bits ended up cut. Besides, his message would have strayed too far from Horton's.

I recently rewatched the Horton Hears a Who movie, and I loved how the animators not only kept the feeling of Dr Seuss but also animated Horton in a way that resembles Jim Carrey himself.

I’ve always defended the Horton Hears a Who movie because despite it’s flaws, it has heart and character. The part where all The Whos use all their instruments and voices to let them know they are there, and then Jojo joining in, that entire scene always gave me goosebumps. Also I really want to know how you feel about the Green Eggs and Ham tv show.

i stand by diva Mike Myers and his cat in the hat adaptation. it’s just what dr. (Mistress) Seuss would’ve wanted

I think O’Hare could have worked. He should have been kept as a faceless antagonist like the Onceler originally was, but instead of just being A greedy dirtbag, he should have instead represented a new generation of business, that was inspired by the Onceler’s apathy, who saw that apathy, and the money it generated, and learned the lesson “survival of the fittest” from it all. O’Hare would have represented the new generation of business that saw the Onceler’s misguided attempts to justify his actions to himself, as legitimate words to live by, and becoming an even bigger menace to nature than the Onceler ever was. But that’s the thing, emphasis should have been put on how O’Hare, his general business philosophies, and his disregard for nature, were all direct results of the Onceler’s apathy. O’Hare and his air wouldn’t have existed without Onceler or Thneeds. It could have been an expansion on the original message, talking about how while maybe back when the original story was written, destructive businesses were just apathetic, the companies and business men that they inspired, genuinely want to cause harm. They want to sell you polluted water, so their friends in the health sector can sell you medicine. They convinced the general public that it was THEIR job to fix the environment, all while they continued to destroy the environment, and sold the general public pointless “green” alternatives to food, sanitation, etc, that they themselves would never use or consume. They want to destroy the environment, so they can sell solutions to problems they caused. These types of ruthless, soulless business men that we have today, are not something the original story could have predicted, but they exist, and they exist because they took all the wrong lessons from the money printing apathy of those who came before, and O’Hare should have been a metaphor for that. O’Hare should have been part of the message, part of the warning. He should have been a warning that even if your apathy doesn’t destroy everything, your destruction will create monsters who want to destroy whatever remains, and then charge people to see the ruins.

Dr. Seuss isn't really popular here in Brazil (or any other non-English speaking country afaik because of how difficult it is to adapt the rhymes and content) so the first exposure a lot of kids had to his work were with the feature films, myself included, and I gotta say that both Jim Carrey movies have a place on my heart for the rest of my life

Jim Carrey also had a mantra about the makeup, he was doing it for the kids. It's why he almost didn't become Eggman if the character required any heavy makeup or constricting costumes.

Tbh I find most of Horton Hears a Who's downsides to be completely forgivable since it's funny. Jim Carrey and Steve Carell have hilarious chemistry here, making it such a fun watch

I think giving the Oncler a face could have worked. Sure the face of the company is usually squeaky clean but there will always be another face that is inseparable from the company, the founder. Having the Oncler be this founder type figure who creates his own legend with the making of the thneed that over the course of the movie hides his face more and more to represent his descent into greed and pride would have been awesome. Have him start wearing sunglasses and then wearing hats and then growing facial hair to cover more of his face, to the point that by the end his face is always covered in shadow. Representing the fall of a once ambitious founder into simply another cog in the corporate machine.

As a kid, I was rather excited for the Lorax and enjoyed seeing it in theaters. Now, I can see the criticism. Is it any wonder why people weren’t too hot on Illumination handling Mario when it was first announced? Also I think I remember watching the animated specials in Elementary school along with Blue Sky’s Horton adaptation. I think I remember enjoying those. I’m betting that WB’s Cat in the Hat movie will add some plot like The Cat in the Hat actually being the boyfriend of the children's mom and he’s babysitting them as to spend time with them. Perhaps his breaking of rules is his attempt to seem cool to the kids.

I've been noticing more and more that studios seem to not want to risk having a protagonist that could really be called "evil". The CumberGrinch is mostly socially awkward and a little petty, and sure he steals Christmas (there would be riots if he didn't do at least that much in a movie called "How The Grinch Stole Christmas"), but there's no malice, no terrorizing the village, nothing! If either of the other grinches came to town, people seem like they would head for the hills, but CumberGrinch has neighbors, goes to the grocery store, practically gets overwhelmed by the Christmas cheer! In another example, take the Artemis Fowl adaptation by Disney. They removed his want for gold, most of his diabolical scheming, his actual crimes, and added in the idea that his father was helping the Fairy society. They even cut the opening scene, WHICH THEY HAD ALREADY FILMED, where he tortures a reject of the fey society for her Book, a tome containing the knowledge Artemis uses to kidnap Holly. Even something like the Suicide Squad has the "bad guys" commit 1 assassination (but he's a family man so it's okay), one car chase where no one gets hurt, a basic robbery by the comic relief, text showing Croc ate someone, and the rest is killing what most would consider "bad guys". Literally Jim Carrey's Grinch is the latest example I can think of of a protagonist who does completely bad deeds most of the movie.

Jim carries grinch was freaking amazing and one of my all time favorites, and it screams the original story's message to me in my opinion I often wonder if dr. Seuss would have liked it and I really hope so

Jim carrey grinch is peak

you can really tell how much care went into the live action grinch honestly i think Suess would be proud of it ROBIN WILLIAMS CAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE BEST F'ING THING EVER OH MY GOD IT WOULD BE PERFECT

I loved Cat in the Hat personally. A film I would watch any day of the week. Mike Myers is just a treat in anything.

I now feel justified in liking the older specials and movies better. The Illumination ones just didn't make sense. There was a lot of potential, especially in The Lorax, to take the message further, to do a mirror situation of O'Hare and the Once-ler being parts of the same thing, or O'Hare being the embodiment of the faceless idea of greed shown in the original, instead of having them be two different characters with different ideas. Have both ideas in the same thing, go into that idea of wanting things you can't have in Ted, and that would have been a bigger message.

I'm surprised you didn't talk about the Lorax's tie-in campaigns. For a story that is essentially anti-capitalist, it went out of its way to be the face of marketing in the leadup to the movie.

Personally, I believe that showing the Onceler’s face can work with two main showings 1. Have him change from a young aspiring artist looking to make a mark on the world to a slowly lifeless looking man with tiresome eyes that potentially are caused by so much partying of praising him and too many bottles if you catch my drift 2. Have him be so ashamed of his actions and how he at times felt more heartless to his family and his girlfriend or someone… anyone, and does not know the errors of his ways until it’s too late that he straight up hides from the world from being ashamed on being so apathetic and so abusive with his power on having no sympathy for others and doesn’t go outside due to intentional belief that after what he did, he just believes that if he straight up met another guy or went through town, he would be brought back to his insecurities and be the same monster with a different look That’s how in my mind the Onceler having a face can work. Because he deteriorated it and hides it after what he done

59:39 O’Hair’s story could all still be seen as trying to negatively paint the “American dream“ because at 1:20 in the movie it shows O’Hair as a low level janitor employee and for the rest of the movie, it shows that he worked really hard to get where he is and became the leader of a giant company.

20:03 - "How many of these have you seen?" Most of them lol I grew up watching lots of Blue Sky, the only ones I haven't watched were their last two movies because I was already a teen by that point

Seuss’s material and his adaptations of his work have forever change literature and entertainment for the best!

Illumnation's Lorax adaptation became a huge running joke among my after school club during middle school, so much so that our teacher asked us what movie we were referencing all the time. We told her and she promptly bought her grandkids the movie for Christmas. When we got back from break one of us asked her how it was and she responded with, "Not great." No elaboration. That poor, poor lady.

Okay yeah you've thoroughly convinced me, the only thing better than them keeping biggering instead of how bad can I be would be if it was more of a "how bad can I be: reprise" where after a bit of big bad onceler getting told by the lorax about all of the damage he was causing, he starts singing about how he doesn't even care, he's gonna keep biggering for the sake of his ego, who cares if some things are dying.

Well done! This goes much deeper into the Lorax than any other video I've seen. Also, I was *not* expecting that Goro Akechi jumpscare lol

Hot Take!! I like the Mike Myers Cat in the Hat. I understand why so many dislike it, but I personally like it for how batsh*t it is. I rather watch that than a safe filler coded adaption of a classic Suess tale (looking at you 2018 Grinch).

The 2d Lorax's "Unless" speech is just... haunting, sad. It's wonderful

"Biggering". The one and only song that definitely shows us what the Lorax illumination version could have been.

it's funny they tried to make the grinch relatable in the illumination version, when they got it right with one scene in the 2000 version. the scene where the grinch just starts tearing into the whos about their rampant commercialism and what christmas is about to them: the gifts. his arguements about the holiday are completely valid. plus even while the jim carrey version of the grinch was mean, there was still some tinge of humanity in him that shows throughout the film, showing that he's not really all bad. from him saving cindy in the male room, to literally just before his ranting where he was willing to give celebrating christmas a chance, this version remained true to the original while not being so meanspirited that you don't want to see him get better.

The dad in Jim Carrey Grinch was a great character, I'm so mad they removed him in the 3D animated one

The worst part about the lorax movie is that they had advertisements for massive corporations who caused pollution and said “lorax approved.”

I like that my concerns about Illumination's Grinch aren't limited to me. I left the theater thinking that he wasn't evil or nasty, just a bit cranky and too fed up with the holidays.

But do you recall... the greatest adaptation of all... The Green Eggs and Ham cartoon show, two seasons, Netflix.

i LOVED the live action cat in the hat as a kid. i had a special dvd packed with bonus things that taught a dance to the song in the credits which my sister and i showed off to our relatives, and i'd sit and rewatch the bloopers/behind the scenes and cut scenes because i genuinely found it so interesting how it was done. oh and also mike myers shrek lol.

I think in defense of The Lorax, I heard it was going to be a lot different and darker. (Case and point the cut songs.) It’s studio meddling that made it the movie we know it as now.

I loved Horton Hears a Who, far and away the best Dr. Seuss movie in my opinion. It's so whimsical and beautiful, plus hilarious. Speaking of Blue Sky, I love Ferdinand too. That studio deserved a better fate than to be bought and shut down by Disney.

The one good thing about the Lorax film is the Oncler's BANGER song "How Bad can I be?"

When checking out how "How Bad Can I Be" sounded in other languages, I saw someone genuinely say how nice the message was and how great it was that kids today can see this good moral movie. Thought it was sarcasm at first but nope.

If we’re talking great Seuss adaptations, Netflix's Green Eggs and Ham is incredible. I love how it goes beyond a basic adaptation and builds upon the classic elements of a Seuss story in order to create its own unique thing. You can tell there was genuine heart put into this series, especially in S2.

I think the Cat in the hat would have been more interesting if the group (cat, fish, girl, boy) got separated to two groups boy and fish/cat and girl. Where you see the fish explain why there needs to be rules and order to the boy, while the cat explains why there needs to be fun and disorder to the girl.

I mean there’s also the Green Eggs and Ham show. Other than two particular antagonists who’s twist motivations don’t make sense if you watch the series with those motivations in mind, I’ve heard it’s a really good show

I really loved the Horton movie as a kid. I’m not as bullish on it now, but I’m glad it’s getting some love here. It was def underrated.

The absolute best part of the "Horton Hears a Who" CG film is the character of Katy. She steals every scene she's in. I love her. The best thing to come out of the CG adaptation of "The Lorax" was the rejected song "Biggering." It was definitely too on-the-nose for comfort, which was why it was reworked into the toonier, less-discomfiting "How Bad Can I Be."

I'm glad you had some praise for Horton Hears A Who as I do have a soft spot for the film. I'm a little disappointed you didn't talk about the climax though because - as funny as it sounds - it's my all time favorite movie climax. With the stakes being so high that a whole race of people could die in a blink of an eye, the visuals and the music and the tension - just gives me goosebumps watching. It felt the most in spirit of Seuss even having the narrator came back for a bit. I admit I find most of the movie okay at best but when it came out, I watched it again and again just to reach the final act. That's how much I loved it.

The grinch is unironically the best Christmas movie, right next the the Muppets Christmas caroll

I am not a big Jim Carrey fan, he can often be a little too much for me, but I LOVED his Grinch. My gf and I have established a holiday tradition of watching both that movie and Klaus every year on winter solstice.

The current day parts of the Lorax movie feels like a parody of a teen dystopia, it has very similar story elements to the Divergent and Maze Runner Series like: a romance plot, an unambiguous and powerful villain, THE WALL and the population eventually overthrowing their government led by the main characters. This is either a coincidence or is intentional and I can't tell which it is.

To me, Warner Brothers Animators proved to be the world's greatest animation House of all time by being able to adapt these wonderful Tales of Seuss the best! From Chuck Jones and the rest, they all knew how to capture style, tone, and deliver his message to such an impact that very few adaptations can even do... with some exceptions to Jim Carrey's performance because he was phenomenal!❤

Its also kinda ironic that Eddie Murphy would have been considered to play The Cat in the Hat had it been made in the 80's because he also was considered to play The Grinch before Jim Carrey, but the widow of DR. Suess wanted exclusively Jim Carrey to play the role otherwise she would take back the rights to make a live action film. (Which she did end up doing immediately after The Cat in The Hat's failure)