Tom Brady Says More QBs Need To Sit Behind Vets, Jordan Love A Great Example | Pat McAfee Reacts 

Andrew Luck was the perfect franchise guy. It wasn’t the learning curve that screwed him, it was the Colts not protecting him in the pocket.

Nobody ever gives Rodgers the credit he deserves for bringing Tom Clements out of retirement. Look at Loves throwing motion and footwork. Clements is big in developing Love and is still in GB. A big "youre welcome" from Aaron.

Aaron sat behind Favre and Love sat behind Aaron. Packers have been blessed at the QB position for 32 straight years and counting.

I think people forget even Tom followed Drew Bledsoe.

Pat sat behind Alex Smith and I absolutely think it helped him develop.

Unless you're CJ Stroud

Tom Brady's post-career commentary is quite insightful into the realities for QBs.

Even Lamar had Flacco

Carson Palmer. #1 overall pick sat his entire rookie season

Justin Herbert is an absolute baller, however, I always wished the Chargers kept Phillip Rivers one more year to have J Herbo learn from him rather than Tyron Taylor and learn from what our division rivals did. Phillip was a wizard at pre snap reads

all of a sudden the Falcons taking Penix makes damn sense when the whole world, including me, laughed

In a few years, it'll be interesting to see how Penix stacks up against all the other QBs in his class that have to start day 1.

80% of pats shows are just reciting stuff from a previous show for the tenth time. Love the show and will always watch, just hope to see more growth this football season.

It depends on the prospect. Younger, raw ones who have physical upside, I agree with. Like if AR was sat his rookie yr, I'd understand that. But guys who are 24, 5th yr seniors who are refined, like Burrow, I think are better off just playing. Ride wave of momentum from college into their prime.

I think the main issue with drafting a rookie when you have a vet is how long the vet is under contract. Penix is behind Cousins for 4 years, love was behind Rodgers for 3 years. A year or 2 isn't anything crazy but 3-4 is when people question it.

Too bad Zach Wilson can no longer do that

dude the amount of times i’ve heard the “if andrew luck got to sit behind peyton manning” take, listening to Pat for 3 years now is insane. he either doesn’t realize how much he says it because of the vitamins or he just talks too much for a living that he kinda has no choice but to repeat himself 😂

I like the approach of Favre to Rodgers as far as not forcing teaching but instead letting Rodgers decide if he wants to learn to be a great QB. Thats the first indicator if someone wants to be great or not. I also noticed comments about coaching and for sure Tom Clements was a huge influence on Rodgers, and now Love. However, I feel Mike Holmgren also deserves a huge amount of credit for his instruction to Favre and the trickledown effect that's had in GB. Here's to at least 12 more years of owning the bears.

Lions fan here. Love is the real deal and I never expected him to be. Congrats Pack, you have another good one.

Even Brady sat behind Bledsoe for over a year.

It's amazing to me that this even needs to be said. It's clearly the formula for success. Its very very obvious

McAfee show was the biggest critic of drafting Love which I thought was fair but the Packers had a plan. Gute believed in Lafluer, which you don’t see in so many NFL franchises in 2024.

Maye will sit behind Brisset and become a legend

I’ve said this for years about the QB position.

I hope JJ sits entire year honestly let him learn he’s young

This is why Cj Stroud is so special tho a true rookie who took over a 3 win team and balled

Jordan Love had Aaron Rodgers to watch and Aaron Rodgers had Brett Favre to watch!

FYI Tom Clement’s has been a qb coach since 1992 he also is a cfl hall fame he was inducted in 19994 he was the qb coach for notra dame for 4 years starting in 1992 he coach Cordell Stewart in Pittsburgh also drew with the bills also he has been with the packers since 2006. He holds a stander that can’t be matched.

I think that some of this is correct but some of it's also incorrect. Because there's the example of Jimmy G, he sat behind. What is statistically the greatest quarterback in nfl history, Jimmy G for crying out loud, got benched by the Raiders.

This is why bears sending fields off for a 6th vs letting Williams learn behind him for one year will be the worst decision in a history of bad bears decisions.

it's very beneficial for anyone in any job to watch someone who knows what they are doing, do the job, without any pressure on yourself, being able to soak it all in, and then later, once you grasp it more, then you start dipping in.

Steve Young - the OG backup to Joe Montana

Mahomes sat behind smith for a year. If your gonna use an example use that one

Two things: 1. We don’t know yet what kind of head coach Jerod Mayo will become, but the fact is, he’s a walk, don’t run kind of leader, and that’s what Drake Maye needs going into his rookie season. 2. As we all know, the big knock on Maye is his footwork, and I don’t think he starts until Mayo is happy with it, even if the team goes 0-17. I would hope Brisset doesn’t suck enough that we go winless with him starting, but if that’s what it takes to get Maye’s feet to an NFL level, so be it. It just means we get to draft a stud at receiver in 2025.

Im very excited for JJ Mccarthy he has the best situation of these young QBs has some really smart offensive Coaches who dont want to force JJ but help him learn we have two former QBs who are gonna help JJ in Kevin O'Connell and Josh McCown.

I've been out of the loop. does Pat still have Aaron on his show?

No, no… I want to hear all the people who were outraged about Penix Jr to argue with Tom Brady.

HOW does Pat not realize that Andrew Luck had NO O-line to protect him?? .. Also it was 💯 Jim’s fault

Well Why everyone so upset about ATL drafting A Qb to sit under a veteran

Tom Brady should just say, “you aren’t going to be me”

Even teams who don't have a star quarterback don't truly develop a second quarterback and I never understood why. Give them some time to learn a system and if the one guy isn't advancing maybe promote from within. Most times they sign these guys just to fill a roster spot in practice, but the Packers draft them and develop them in their system. I think that's why you see Packers backups having signature games or finding careers elsewhere.

This is why I was hoping as a Michigan fan that JJ went to somewhere to be a backup like new Orleans to Derek Carr or something. Having a star quarterback to study off of is immensely useful.

I’ve said this for years. The jets are finally having Travis play behind two vets and hopefully it works

Then why is everyone STILL bullying and hating on the Falcons' Penix selection?

That’s the problem with these terrible organizations! They are too impatient to start a rookie QB out of desperation for any sort of success but you can’t do that without a cast around them or a veteran QB! That’s why I rather start a veteran than a rookie

Lamar and Patrick sat their rookie years and they are probably the best 2 , burrow the other one and he had a over full college career so he just was older

Herbert sat behind Taylor, huge benefits

Philip rivers behind drew brees

Andrew luck said hold my beer

Unless you’re Brock Purdy

haven't you guys been clowning the falcons over the past month for setting this exact scenario up?

the whole system is flawed because of the "win now" culture of the NFL. Coaches get fired much faster than they used so they feel pressured to play the young guys so they can show "potential" for what next season could look like if they just get another year.

For every Love who sits and watches and gets better, there’s a Stroud who jumps in instantly and helps turn the whole franchise around in one season. That being said, every team with a franchise QB need to pay attention to what the Packers have been able to do, they literally have a 100% success rate with 1st round QBs. And have had an MVP caliber QB(I’m assuming Love is gonna look even better this year) constantly since the early 90s. Like 30 straight years, so if the Patriots would have picked a 1st round QB and actually kept them to sit until Brady left maybe they’d still near the top of the league instead of what actually happened

Just because they sit for 4 years doesn't make them ready. The last play of the season for love showed he still isn't ready.

As a Pats fan, I respect everything Brady says, but I want to see if the guy we just drafted is any good. I’d rather not wait another year while he sits on the bench

No QB should start week 1 as a rookie. Even if you plan on them getting in, they should get 5 weeks off the bench minimum

Unless you Josh Allen! Had him behind peterman 😂we shut that down so fast! Some qbs need to sit behind people and some you just gotta throw out there so they can learn

This show is awesome

Didn’t work out too great for Jimmy G

Here we go atlanta let's get it!!!

but yeah make fun of the falcons for trying to do this exact ting lol

Mac Jones wasn’t developed as a Rookie! It’s why he crashed. He had a lot of turnovers too. Mac should have waited until his 2nd or 3 yr to be QB1. He was a alternate as a Pro Bowl & only got 2 votes as Rookie of the year. He froze because he got saturated too fast! 2021, He got 3Xs more weapons than they gave Cam Newton in 2020. 😳

What's crazy is owners thinking they don't have time to be patient...yes you do. You could be terrible for decades and still have fans handing you money hand over fist. Owners have the time they just don't want to wait.

Conner what the hell u talking about man, fitz never played with josh allen, josh started week 2 of his rookie year😂

Farve started immediately, caught his first pass, GOAT

He jus don't want no one to touch his records lol , like they're already almost impossible to surpass

Did PMS purposely pick 3 clips where Love looked like Rodgers moving and throwing?

So you also the Atlanta move was bonehead but Brandy opens up his mouth and now you in agreement

But everybody’s giving Atlanta a hard time

I honestly don’t think people have ever seen Rodgers play in college. He was so awkward! The dude was like a robot, I’ve never seen anything like it. Rodger’s play style completely transformed over his time behind Favre. If Rodger’s started day 1 and tried to play with the his arm up by his ear marching with a wide stance in the pocket like he did in college he would have never got a second contract. His style in year 3 was night and day opposites from his college play. Love mimics Rodgers style too. There were times last season I forgot I was watching love because it looked so much like Rodgers. It’s not just mechanics and style it’s leadership, the knowledge of the playbook and NFL defenses. It’s how to lead, and also what not to do… when you start day 1 in a crappy organization you don’t have anyone to look to. There is drama everywhere. You don’t have time to fix anything so your bad habits become permanent. You don’t learn leadership from anyone so you wing it and may develop bad leadership qualities too. Most of these guys have 2-4 different offensive coordinator/ HCs in their first 4 years too so they never get comfortable. Having 3 years to learn 1 offense, how to perfect your craft physically, mentally, and habitually you have a huge leg up on your first start.

spencer rattler learning behind derrick carr then taking the job

I'd argue older qbs should retire and give a kid a starting spot.

But yet the falcons do it and everyone thinks it's worse decision ever 🥴

Who was the last 1st overall pick to go into the NFL and be elite right away? It has happened before but it definitely takes a really special type of someone to do it. CJ Stroud is a rare human

Boston Connor: "I'm so excited about the situation in NE but the difference between Atlanta is that those other teams already had those guys..." New England Patriots: Signed Jacoby Brissett on March 11, 2024

C J will flush this whole convo down the toilet

Now because the goat says this people will change their tune about my falcons

Theres nothing that suggests it does anything. If every Hall of Fame QB played right off the bat most if not all would still be HOF'ers.

Yea but other teams don’t have a aaron rodgers brett favre or Alex smith to sit behind them of a year to learn most rookie just get thrown out

Jimmy G sat behind Tom for a couple of superbowl wins. Still couldnt win it on his own in SF. So idk Tom.

So basically , play kyle trask . Trask > baker

Can u guys not make stuff. Peterman was the starter when Josh Allen came in. Fitzpatrick was on like 5 other teams since his Buffallo days b4 Allen was a Bill. Other somewhat inaccurate statements, the Favre-Rodgers thing was only an issue in 2005 from a working relationship standpoint. It was good beteen them after 2005.

I know Pittsburgh fan, Rudolph and Big Ben, Rudolph started to full fill his potential then they let him go.

This will not change unless the labor contract and environment changes. Both player and team and incentivized to produce "right now".

How many #1 draft pick QBs died in Cleveland because you had to play Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Baltimore 6 of your rookie season games lol

Once you're a Top QB in this league, your best ability becomes availability. That's the one thing Andrew Luck, unfortunately, never got taught. He would put his body on the line just to gain an extra yard and it caught up to him eventually.

He’s not wrong. Maybe 1 has the talent to play. But I think they should sit for A bit to watch and learn from..!

Brady Rodgers Mahomes Big Ben and even Eli didn’t start right off let qbs learn

Tom I love ya you're the goat but tell me why none of our qbs under you were successful? Sometimes it's good to sit Sometimes it's not

Who did 7X champ in 10 years as a pro Otto Graham learn from?

Saw this last year with the Steelers. Kenny and Mitch both sucked. Mason Rudolph who had sat and learned from a future HOF QB in Big Ben came in and lit it up.

Reminder that Brett Favre stole money from poor people in the poorest state in the union to build a volleyball facility at a school his daughter once attended. (allegedly, don't due me too Brett)

Mahomes, Rodgers, Lamar, Josh Allen, Herbert, Brock all sat some. Stafford, Baker, Burrow, Dak the only ppl with success that started week 1

Cautious. You didn't do it, till you did it. High hopes.

The Panthers should have set Bryce Young and signed a free agent to take the bumps untill they got a better roster , now any potential he has is gone, because our owner is a bigger micro manager than Jerry Jones but with 0 football knowledge

Everything depends on coach players and the determination of the individual in question. Qbs that are good dont get backups taking there job unless there on the verge of retirement. Kirk cousins is the perfect leader for michael. Im scared of the falcons once this kid takes over. Especially with those young weapons.

Only if the vet is good

why isnt garoppolo better when he sat behind the GOAT for years??

Love had one year lol it’s more of the system

And Brock purdy sat behind no one. Purdy is gonna win a ring this year