Tom Explains What Has Happened | Downton Abbey | Season 3 

Cora's American helped smooth things over.

and completely right in his viewpoints....forgot that one did you?

He would have been able to go back once the Free State was declared in 1921 and Ireland had their own government

@ I think there was a bit of love, but it was mostly to get away from that lifestyle. I wasn't a fan of Tom either until after Sybil's death. He seemed to calm down & realize both sides have their value and should be listened to. Having to stay at Downton for so long after her death definitely helped his character a lot.

@ He didn't bully Sybil into anything. By saying that, you're reducing the strong character that she was into a meek and feeble woman, which Sybil definitely wasn't. She had a mind of her own, and chose to marry Tom. Had Sybil not wanted to, she would have done as much.

@@77Amnita She was very keen for Tom to stay in Downton when they got back there. perhaps the charms of being a middle class wife were fading fast, after a year or so. She didn't want Tom to move to being a garage mechanic in a town somewhere....

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Wel this show is pretty pro-aristocracy, so it makes sense they’d write him that way

*RIGHT?* hahaha... That's WHEN my love was Confirmed again!

But not very realistic, the Earl of Grantham is supposed to be a veteran of the Boer War. A rough business I am certain, he hires his handicapped valet b/c of some perceived obligation as a fellow veteran of that war. Are we supposed to assume that he gained no insight into the harshness of this world from that experience? What is the bond which ties him to his valet? I've always wish they'd explored that issue. I find many dubious points in the development of this story. The Earl can't really be a stupid as he is made to seem in this story.

@@VictorLepanto I don't think there is any implication that the Earl doesn't understand the harshness of the world but simply that he despises the Irish tactics in adding to it, including the lack of responsibility and character the he finds in Tom in the matter, given the demonstration that Tom hates his enemies more than he loves his wife and child--patriotism being, as they say, the last refuge of scoundrels. I think the Earl's view is one that most of the civilized world could identify with, whatever sympathies there might be for Irish aims in self-governance.

@@VictorLepanto He did it out of gentleman honor I am guessing. He would not have been in the thick of it during the Boer War .

I thought it impertinent and snarky given what he just did leaving Sybill alone as he said, to fend for herself. I had the opposite reaction. I felt very disappointed and let down in Tom. Robert is trying to help him and this is how he acts.

Maggie Smith is just amazing in everything she does!

Silversled sooooo why are you watching this video ??

Seriously, it is not like Robert can help what happened in Ireland.

@@Furienna Actually, not so. At least in part. As an Earl, he would at the time that he existed be entitled to a seat in the House of Lords. That would have given him not only a voice in that chamber, but access to the politicians of the day. He could also have mustered support amongst other peers. There is always something that one can do.

@@andrewjones-productions Except I would think that Robert just assumed that whoever was in charge over Ireland knew what they were doing. It is not like Robert was a political radical like Sybil and Tom.

@@Furienna A lot of people in parliament were shocked at the behaviour of the Black and Tans in Ireland... and while they thought that Ireland should remain part of the British empire they did not want British troops to be implicated in acts of savagery. But Tom didn't show up very well, getting involved in violent protest and then leaving Sybil behind to take the rap if she got caught.

@@andrewjones-productions Yes, if Robert wasn’t an incompetent.

She was being herself. What more could a fan of this wonderful series ask for?

In other words, the rulers took actions befitting rulers. What a shocker.

It is not like burning castles would make anything better for Ireland though. This is more than seventy years after the potato famine too, so I don't see how any person still living in 1920 could be responsible for that.

@@Furienna It’s not about the potato famine though. The people living in those castles are the Anglo Irish a class of people who colonised Ireland and kicked the Catholics off their land. They are symbols of British Imperialism, something that by 1920 Ireland is very much trying to throw off. By fighting for independence from Britain.

@@cammiehalliday757 Firstly, somebody else, not me, talked about the potato famine. Secondly, it is not like those families in the 1920s could help what their ancestors did or that they lived in a castle.

@@Furienna In the 1920s the Anglo Irish are symbolic of British oppression they are not native Irish people. They were still holding up the system of British Imperialism and a stumbling block to Irish independence due to Protestantism and pro British stance.

Whats wrong with europe? I live there and it's a pretty good place to live in comparision to most other places in the world. US included if all the stuff I read/hear and see about what happens there are true... The US scares me to death.. I'm relieved I don't live there very frequently. Same with Russia or a country where religion is still a forced/pushed on you thing or any country where you don't have the same rights as a gay person compared to a straight person when it comes to merriage and having kids (or rights in general). Or any country where women are expected to be housewives/mothers. Nothing wrong with being either of those of course. There is something wrong with it being forced on you or pushed on you. Most places in the world suffer badly from at least one of these things. Where I live it's not perfect, but we have freedom in religion, freedom in sexuality and the same rights apply to all, women can persue whatever they want safely as well (Sadly that doesn't mean they all do, but that stems from a problem thats a problem across the whole planet, not just this place) and our healtcare is pretty decent. Also US has terrible gun control. One of the worst ones I've heard off in the world honestly... but hey to each their own I guess? If your happy where you are then thats good. Happyness is importand after all and where you live does play a part in that, so good on ya. Meanwhile I'm glad my parents changed their mind to move there before I was born. My mom stayed there for a few weeks, found it horrible, and returned here. A decision I'm gratefull for to this very day as well especialy when I hear her experiences there. So I guess perspective and one's point of view matter a great deal in this. Perhaps if our positions where swapped so would have been our opinions. or maybe we would still feel the same we do now. i find that interesting to think about.

This is no longer true , thanks to Brexit the peace, may not last .

@@amberanime Happybidr was referring to the Europe of that era and not of today. It was quite a different place at that time. If you live on the European continent you will know that. Naturally, it was different depending on the country, but much worse was ahead. Especially if you were Jewish, Romany, homosexual or were of a political persuasion that did not agree with the ideals of Lenin/Stalin, Franco, Mussolini and Hitler. Hell, even today, if you are unfortunate enough to be Belorussian and disagree with Lukashenko then you are not in a fortunate position. Just ask the Belorussian Olympic sprinter that has just left Japan as a defector to Poland.

he could have returned to Ireland after independence in 1923.. adn in any case Allen Leach presumably left the show for a season when Tom went to America...

Yeah, if only they didn't have a massive housing crisis in Ireland right now, with exorbitant rents and house prices driven up by foreign investors and a lack of regulation of the property market, meaning that accommodation is utterly unaffordable for increasing numbers of Irish people. It's also has a terrible healthcare system that successive governments have failed to fix and the cost of living is high by Western standards, so it's not quite as nice a place to live as you think!

i am not sure i would have blamed them, if you know anything about Irish-British History.

That's a pretty smug thing for Tom to say to the man he's come running to for help.

Is like a dad mad at his son 😅 and Tom eventually became the son of Lord Grantham never have.

And he sounds like him too! That Irish accent, so lovely!

how observant!

I kind of get where he was coming from. Personally I would never do it myself but here's my reasoning. If you where ever stuck in a situation where you might be sent down,away from your wife and your possible child,you would want to escape because you love them so much. He clearly felt the world for sybil and new that it would be unsafe for her to come in the dark,in a dangerous situation for a pregnant lady,so let her wait intill it was safe. It was obvious to any police that she did not do anything. Therefore, he did what was best for himself,his wife and possible child. However,he should have told her the full truth of what he was doing,but I see also why he did not. He(particularly)and she have very political minds,and sybil's father disagrees with his views,he thought that if he told her she would be furious and angry and create a divide. I believe that he was allowed to go,if he really wanted to,because of his views,but should have told sybil more of the truth,because we know,however hard the truth it's better to know it more than lies.

@@libbydavis He didn't deserve Sybil.

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It can be either. If the speaker is referring to "the police" as a singular entity, than "is" is correct. For example, "the police [department] is corrupt".

Was he? At that point, he DID abandon Sybill, pregnant and alone in an unfamiliar place to fend for herself. The authorities could very well have detained her. Tom was selfish and cowardly in this instance. If it were me I could never have trusted him again. Not sure if I could have forgiven him either.

But he's so hot ....

@@catherinereilly5833 So that makes it all right for him to be cowardly and selfish?

Relax its just a programe

I kind of wonder if this was a plan that he and Sybil created. He said they agreed to this. This moment is probably what helped him grow.

Tom and Sybil splitting up was probably the best decision. The police were looking for Tom, not Sybil, so she would have an easier time getting out of there undetected. If they had gone together and been found, the police would not have been gentle with them, so there's a high probability Sybil could have been seriously hurt or even lost the baby.

@@creativehorsequeenExactly!

You say that like it's a bad thing.

@@Iisdabest889 Something that has never benefited the average British person

@@Iisdabest889 it's terrible

@@Iisdabest889 It is.

SafeSpaceInc Not hardly. The two of them had everything arranged far in advance.

@RobMacRay seeeeeeeeeeeeeeriously... the comments on this video seem to imply that Sybil was a delicate little flower that even the slightest breeze would blow over.... That was absolutely never how her character was portrayed.

Well, it is not like the police would arrest Sybil. She had never been involved in the burning of the castle, and she also was the daughter of an earl.

@@Furienna The situation in Ireland was very volatile and police and soldiers shot first and asked questions later. If Sybil was identifying iwth her husband's politics she would at least have been questioned...

first of all, chill lol its a piece of fiction. second of all, you cannot deny tom is absolutely sorry and genuinely loves sybil. and lastly, characters with no flaws make for bad writing.

I know and Tom decided to abandon her in it, a pregnant woman. Tom needs to wake up from his own bullshit.

@@23Revan84 Exactly.