I think they took it out just as a FU to Tommy. Now everyone knows why it's gone and it does nothing but make him look like an even bigger douchebag then he already did.
@@alexanderm8975 He didn't, he bragged on the internet that he could do it. You probably already know by now, but Talarico Studios are the ones that used the sound without paying for it, it was never his to begin with. Tommy Talarico is just an "entrepreneur" in the worst sense of the word.
I also want to point out that Tommy was more than happy to tell everyone he was the guy that did the "oof" sound for Roblox when he was tooting his horn in the Amico's E3 presentation in 2021. How we got from that to this I'm not entirely sure, but he was definitely willing to list it as one of his great accomplishments when he was telling us how awesome he was.
Honestly thats why he did it in the first place, he got jealous seeing how three fucking letters were on a game and took issue to it, it might be under copyright law but for once this is copyright i can't agree with
I fully believe those Roblox numbers. My 3 kids have been playing it for years. Their cousins play it, it seems like every kid plays it. Yesterday they were joking about this sound effect because it changed and apparently in the game they were playing the new death sound effect was being spammed.
When talking about Roblox, it is worth knowing that Roblox has continued to face its own longstanding controversy/scandal for enabling, and arguably promoting, the large scale exploitation of child labor.
Expand on this. I work at an elementary school and a 3rd grader was talking about some way he made $20 playing the game. I’m an old man so please explain it like I fought in WW1.
@@worldsheaviestjamband93 So basically children are being exploited off free labor, with a carrot on a stick. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_gXlauRB1EQ.html
@@worldsheaviestjamband93 Its not real child labour kids make levels and items and stuff for fun and Roblox makes money of that but the kids don't get much money from it something similar happened in the 1980s mostly in the uk where "smart" teenagers would make computer programs and then send them to a publisher and all they got was 5£ this is like a modern version of that.
@@worldsheaviestjamband93 You've got adults hiring kids to create assets to sell, without contracts, oversight, or protection. Kids get scammed, find their agreements changed without any means of objecting, get conned into working excessive hours, get exposed to toxic work environments, and the like.
Don't worry, as Tommy said, he might lose everything today and he will have everything back in a year, cuz he NEVER loses remember? He's the most successful guy EVER 🤣
Except Trump is still a truly successful multi-millionare businesses man, Tommy is a buffoon trying to get easy money to keep pretending to be successful.
As a Roblox player, I can say that no one in the community knows anything about who tommy tallarico is, so it's great to see you guys talk about him and this entire situation from the perspective of people who know about him and his history. Also, currently developers CANNOT buy soundpacks yet. It's an announced upcoming feature but it's not officially available yet.
Yes!!! And everyone is applauding him for being the good guy in the situation. I decided to do some background checks on him and discovered some shocking stuff. I’ve seen so many influencers praise him without knowing the full context behind the situation. The situation really does not blend well with the Roblox communities position on Roblox’s recent decisions and general opinions. I want to do my best to be on neutral ground but the more I learn about him the harder it becomes. It’s crazy.
if they got it from a sound effects library on CD, high chance that the person Tommy hired originally to do the sound for a game also got it from a copyright free Library too and conned Tommy.
The original file has the correct information on it, making it come from the development of messiah. It is common for sound compilations to just dump sound files from games.
@@AndyKazama2 Sure! Some people complain about this guy's narration, but it is the best IMHO ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5SaFTm2bcac.html
Yeah, this is another salient point, copyright law includes the caveat that you actively enforce your ownership rather than selectively to maintain it.
RetroBro oofed all over Tommy and now he’s embarrassed about it. No wonder he’s hiding behind the facade of his new channel acting like he never oofed on nobody. If only he could find the courage to stand up for what’s right and admit the truth… Maybe what RetroBro needs is for all of us to oof all over him! That’ll show him that one doesn’t need to be embarrassed for oofing!
@Dan Smith well it's mostly fun playing with online friends or couch co-op. Even better if you are playing with someone who can suggest which game to play based on your interests. Many of the games are open world building and role playing where you can be a chicken, dragon, or other creatures. I usually log on because my kids want me to show me what they built. The micro transactions are everywhere and some games require buying a game pass to play.
Probably just grasping for any straws that he can to make as much money back to cover the losses of the amico. Seems like odd timing to go after millions of dollars for something so trivial
I have kids & the "half of US kids are active users" sounds absolutely accurate. It's more like 90% from my anecdotal sphere, but I do understand there are a lot of families that keep their kids off online games & games in general, so it balances out. I personally don't get it, but the kids love it.
He is probably a bit skint from the Intellivision and this is his method of making bank again. It was seen with the office being stripped down, and he's not been fulfilling anything he promised with the Amico, as well as the bad press, so he likely just saw a golden opportunity in Roblox to dry them of some of their money.
Tries to milk the older generation for nostalgia while ruining the nostalgia of the future generation tommy seems like he just really hates everyone born after 1985.
Doubt this will be noticed but in Beverly Hills Cop Axel is swinging from the back of a semi and makes the oof sound. I think Tommys company stole the sound anyways.
According to Dot Esports it cost about $1 in game for the sound, now I’m curious if either Roblox was just fed up or if Tommy was asking for something ridiculous like $5-10 per user. Given what we’ve seen with Tommy, I wouldn’t be surprised by either one.
Everyone seems to be taking Tommy at his word that the sound effect was produced for Messiah. It's not outside the realm of possibility that they utilized a sfx cd for that game as well. Even a reasonable person could misremember something from the development of a game they worked 22 years ago, so I don't know why anyone would ever concede any point to a slimy character like Tommy without proof. Dude has no credibility.
The ironic thing is that tommy was caught using Star Wars content in his ads to promote the amico. And of course he didn't get permission from Disney. What a hypocrite.
Jebus, after all these years the Intellivision Amico scam is still ongoing? Not a single console have been shipped and people are still believing Tommy and his company?
Pat, you are a prophet, a seer, a fortune teller... ... or just damn well guessed that a sound file can be replaced by a 6 year old :D (6 days ago too... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-svMUzX-DM6k.html )
I have a few cds from when I was younger that are 100s of sound effects and voices/noises per album (I use to do tons of prank calls with them in the day lol) but I specifically remember sounds loops and beats being included on all the albums by the band Pitchshifter which I have sampled many times b4
Not at all a given actually. Whilst in cases of a freelancer developing a piece of work for a company in lieu of any other guidance it is the accepted precedent that the company owns the rights to it that's far from an absolute and that's just counting the USA. There are other issues like if the work is, in fact, copyrightable too. Other than its simplicity it sounds like there are good odds the creator had already produced the sound somewhere else for a sound effects library and reused that asset which would mean Tommy has the right to use it but does not own it. This is my best guess as to what the truth of the situation is but who knows? Tangentially, there are two interesting examples from the nerd world here: Joel Hodgson produced MST3K as an employee of Best Brains and didn't sign any contracts to the contrary so what he made was legally theirs, a dispute which was a large part of the reason he left the show when he did. However, Terry Nation wrote The Daleks (aka The Mutants) for the BBC under similar circumstances but British law works differently and BBC contracts didn't specify ownership at the time thus Terry Nation's estate still owns the Daleks to this day and they have to be licensed for use on Doctor Who. Basically the law is unbelievably soupy and ill-defined and that's why cases like fair use claims are almost always lengthy considerations made on a case-by-case basis. (Also even before the Amico fiasco Tommy had a lengthy track record of not respecting the copyright of others, so there's that too.)
9:18 Not a lawyer but a digital media student who had to study this stuff, The sound is definitely copyrighted, it's a small clip from a larger body of work and the game Messiah has not been put into the public domain yet. Mario's "Wahoo" sound clip is a part of Super Mario 64's copyright like the textures and music and level models. Now who owns the copyright? Depends on the contracts, Messiah was developed by Shiny Entertainment and and published by Interplay and those company's rights have bounced around since 2000 (including to "Atari" in 2002-2006 lmao) and Shiny was shut down to be merged into Double Helix Games, who was later merged into Amazon Game Studios. It would be weird for Shiny to not own the sounds to Messiah, but SEGA does not own the music to Sonic 1 and 2, the composers do, so it depends on the contrast. There are also some protections for the voice actors themselves, but that's another rabbit hole. There is nothing in copyright law saying you are allowed to use X percent of a copyrighted work and it's free game, but fair use and factoring if it's a core element of the work or not do factor in. Like cutting out Paul's face from Abbey Road might be more in favor of infringement the a small section from the trees in the top left corner. But that's what you argue in court. I do wonder how getting it from a SFX CD would effect this, I think copyright infringement is one of those "Does not matter if you were aware or not that it was infringement, you are liable" but that does not seem right to me. But there is a lot I wish would be better about copyright laws, but my opinion is irreverent on the legality of it lol. I guess nothing is also stopping them from just recording their own "Oof" soundalike really, it's one thing to use a direct audio recording, but someone saying "oof" is a thing you can't in general own lmao. y'know ultimately I wish the Voice Actor who made the iconic noise would get some paycheck, whoever they are, but legally in the right or not, this just reeks of a cash grab by Tommy.
It's not definite that "oof" is copyrightable. www.copyright.gov/circs/circ56.pdf - "Short sound recordings may lack a sufficient amount of authorship to warrant copyright protection, just as words and short textual phrases are not copyrightable. Sound recordings captured by purely mechanical means without originality of any kind also lack a sufficient amount of authorship to warrant copyright protection."
I don't really blame Tommy for wanting the oof sound effect back, after all that oof is revolutionary. It's the greatest oof sound effect anyone has ever heard before. That oof will be the centerpiece of your sound board.
i know he has legal ownership of the sound and stuff but like, bruh? the asset was "stolen" long time ago, just an oof sound, he could've just asked for them to put OOF sound effect by tommy talarico in the about us page, but no, he wants to make quick money when he realised the audio was actually made by him
He should have at least enjoyed the respect for the sound. I didn’t know Roblox removed it because he was complaining. The new sound actually isn’t that bad now compared to the situation
Tommy sues them for using it years ago then they came to an agreement.... but then Tommy wanted money for each game that used the oof.... so Roblox said nah we good and dropped it.... kinda petty to be honest...
When you think Tommy couldn't get any more unlikable... things like this just keep popping up over time making it far easier to not root for the guy. Not that it's worth going over on the show but Tommy's excuse for Joey Kuras being the last guy working on the "save file" so that's why his name is connected to it is hilarious and outright sad. If rumours are true about what a few of his "former friends" have said about Tommy's financial situation... I'm guessing out of desperation he tried breaking his deal with Roblox and asking for more cash up front similar to a junkie needing money for that one last fix.
I mean. Honestly, I’m not a fan of Tommy. But I feel like it’s kind of the other way around. For Roblox, they’ve demand him money. But he doesn’t want to when they’re the ones who are trying to break the deal with him, take his credit off. I think it’s pretty suspicious for a greedy company to accept a deal from Tommy and do not cut him some slack. Can’t say that I blame him, would’ve done the same. Minus asking for cash and never work for them again. Although, I respect your opinion.
Yeah, imagine if somebody just took a bunch of say, stolen art assets, and tried to use those in promotional materials for their half-baked game, or scammy mcscammerton plug'n'play console. That would be pretty scummy, huh Tommy?
No lie, my 16 year old developed "Magnet Simulator" through Roblox. $364,000 he made last year and that's only 40% of it, Roblox keeps the other 60%. He's 18 now and is on his second Corvette and 5th car already. It's real coding though, no copy and paste. It's all Lua. If you can write code you are set
Once again, Tommy's ego cost him more money than he's worth. If he had kept his mouth shut and worked with Roblox privately on that stupidly themed Tommy Tallarico pack, he could have made so much money on royalties or commission. It always seems to be Tommy's way or the highway. Well the highway to hell it is! 💀
I will miss the Oof Sound. Myself as an Adult who Playz Roblox does Fully Understandz & Standz behind Roblox Decision Not Pay Tommy Tall-A-Rico. Some Kidz might not, but They will Adjust...Just Like Everything in Life. Now...I just Wish Roblox would Buy some 2 Minute Length CopyRight Songz, So Playerz like Myself that Love to Host Partiez on Roblox can Play some of our Favorite Songz. Well...At Least we Have MonsterCat Songz. 🤟
I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall when this fell apart. Because he was welcomed with open arms (even garnering an announcement on their dev forums.) Did he ask for too much money? Did the _actual_ sound creator get the rights into his hands? Did the execs nix him when they smelled the Amico stank?
I don't understand these types of people,there will always be thiefs that steal your stuff you got too get over it;I was taught as a kid that people will always steal things from you weather you like it or not that's just life I think everyone needs too learn that ^_^
as a parent I can definitely say that Roblox is bigger with gen alpha than Minecraft. Probably the most obvious reason is Roblox is free to play, Minecraft is not. Also Roblox is fully online and multiplayer in an easier and more accessible way than Minecraft. My kids enjoy Minecraft but no where near as much as they enjoy Roblox.
No, that is not in fact how copyright functions at all. That's how TRADEMARK law works and it's not the same thing. Please stop regurgitating this false fact.
