Fun fact to those who haven't kept up with the anime. In Yugioh VRains, which began around 2018-2019, the main villain of the first season is hyped up to have an amazingly powerul card that can wipe the field and the characters spend multiple duels being cautious and figuring out what it is, and they find out that god-tier card is... Mirror Force.
@@removebeforeflightgamingth9923 the 'joke' is that link monsters don't HAVE a defense position and so have no native way to 'play around' it. never mind that by that time the TCG had evolved beyond using TRAP CARDS natively thanks to the speed of the game devolving cards into 'turn 1/turn 2' cards.
I remember sitting through a lot of the first season of VRAINS thinking “they could just win with Mirror Force,” so I popped off when the villain actually used Mirror Force
I actually thought it was pretty cool they did that, not everything has to exist for the sake of the real competitive game, although they probably did it to hype the Mirror Force support they made that time.
Honestly, I'm surprised Obelisk made this list over Machina Citadel and Starving Venom. Citadel when combined with either Super Dora or Infinitrack Goliath makes it a one-side board wipe. And then Starving Venom though being a more conditional Dark Hole, is still a Super Poly target meaning it's a layer of protection on top of interruption that can't be responded to.
Or you can just take Darklord Zerato which only costs one Dark monster from the hand and can be brought out much easier. Or just The first Darklord which is a one sided field wipe on summon. Obelisk prob just won because of popularity, just like some other cards on the list
Did Citadel see any competitive play? Obelisk was really good in the Ruler format. Also, I think Starving is more of a Dark Hole-like effect. Edit: Dark Hole itself made it in this list. Yeah, I feel like Starving should make it in this list.
13:08 Agreed: In a Timelord deck, Dark Hole is useful because Timelords are unaffected and if there is a trapped, negated Timelord on my side, which essentially blocks another summon, Dark Hole can get rid of that so that I can summon a new TImelord.
Honestly, aside from a minor technical difference, "Metaphys Daedalus" is also a fantastic Raigeki-like card. Sure, it doesnt destroy but banishes which can be even worse from match to match
Heya Mr. Logs from the TheDuelLogs channel, could you make a top 10 list of archetypes that have effects that "break the rules" of the game because they have card text that says they can i.e ones like Zoodiacs Xyz summoning with only one monster, Ursarctics synchroing by subtracting instead of adding levels and Blackwings synchroing with materials in the GY, Drytrons ritual summoning based on atk instead of levels, Madolches shuffling themselves back into the deck instead of going to the GY, True Dracos tribute summoning with continuous spells & traps instead of monsters etc. I think that'd be an interesting video since we get to see the history of Konami introducing new mechanics to keep the game fresh and insteresting.
@@Tracker-qn9eb That would be "Zero" from the series "Grimoire of Zero" and its successor series "Dawn of the Witch" Not sure if her eating a burg is fanart or actually from "Dawn of the Witch", but they're both worth the watch.
Before acid reprint, I use interdimensional matter transporter for absolute zero because of the fraction transporter can remove absolute to proc its effect. But also act as a form of protection for some monsters when they need a quick escape since it caught people off guard
I’m also surprised our boy Evilswarm Exciton Knight is not mentioned. He has seen a lot of competitive play for a time until he got banned. Exciton Knight was pretty much your standard rank 4 toolbox a lot of people would have back then. Like Castel, etc.
I really enjoy these videos. However, the background effect for the Number 1 spot is very rough on the eyes. I understand the theming, but if possible, it might be better to tone down the bright flashing backgrounds in your videos. Thank you for the content, Duellogs and editors!
With “umi” and sea stealth attack you can turn elemental hero absolute zero into a raigeki every turn. I’ve messed around with it in master duel as a troll deck. It’s hilarious but not too competitive yet bc it’s just too hard to setup quickly. Even with 3x warrior of Atlantis and 3x legendary ocean and 3x ssa, you’d still need poly, a hero and a water card. Might be more viable when the new sea stealth support comes to the tgc in the future.
WATER Heroes are a really fun deck to play. Bubbleman, Liquid, and Tin Goldfish gave you plenty of materials for Zero, while also giving access to things like Abyss Dweller or Bahamut (and Toad).
Id say The First Darklord is a good one, easy set up with necro fusion with morning star and then wipe your oppenents field, not to mention a great effect come your next turn
A fun trivia, at the Bolivia nationals, there were no maindecked copies of raigeki, both were in the sideboard. Harpie's Feather Duster had 3 copies present, 2 maindecked and 1 sideboarded. Chainge of Heart had 2 copies mainboard and none in the side, and Monster Reborn had a single maindecked copy, none in the side, and it was in the deck that won the whole event. Of the old school "staples", Foolish Burial had the most copies present, 4, all mainboarded.
It is important to point out that Mirrorjade only activate its raigeki-like effect when it is fusion summoned, and this will be relevant as Despia deck would banish their own Mirrorjade and bring it back with Ad Libitum in order to get a second banish in the same turn
Which is crazy to me since they put a once per other turn restriction on the effect, just to keep it soft and let ad lib do that nonsense lol. Def feels intentional tho
I knew Lightning Storm would be here, but kind of thought we might see Aslla Piscu or Judgment Dragon as well because of the former's FTK potential and the latter's ability to nuke the field over and over again if you have LP to spare.
Judgement has no protection and is harder to summon. Piscu isn't on here probably because of the difficulty in set up but is way easier to summon and does burn damage.
I personally believe Machina could be in Obelisk’s or Mirror force’s place. Obelisk requires to tribute 2 monsters and locks you from attacking with it that turn, where citadel destroys a monster of your choice (potentially helping you to special summon citadel from the grave of there’s another one there) but also doesn’t restrict you from attacking. Mirror force only destroys attack position monsters meaning that it’s not rocket science to switch your monsters in defense position to secure them as well as having to be activated during the battle phase making it even more situational comparing it to citadel’s quick effect that can be used at any time.
My personal fav way to make use of Torrential Tribute is to combo it with Torrential Reborn... not only do you resummon your water monsters but it comes with bonus damage.
I feel like Fire King High Avatar Garunix deserves a mention. It's a level 8 fire/winged beast effect monster with 1700 ATK and 1700 DEF, with the effect that if it's destroyed by a card effect, special summon it from the graveyard in the next standby phase and when you do destroy all other monsters on the field. When it's destroyed by battle, you can special summon one Fire King monster from your deck excpept High Avatar Garunix
Minor correction, it has 2700 attack (I'm assuming it was a typo lmao). And has archetypal ways of destroying itself via card effect. Circle of the Fire Kings is a quick play spell card that allows you to destroy one fire monster you control and special summon one fire monster from the graveyard. Also Onslought of the Fire Kings allows you to special summon any Fire King monster from your deck if you have no monsters but it is destroyed during the end phase. Another thing to note is that if you managed to get a second Fire King High Avatar Garunix on the field during the same turn that the one summoned via onslaught was still there before being destroyed you would make an infinite loop unless one was banished or destroyed by battle. On top of other fire kings being able to destroy other cards you control or in your hand or via the same effect as onslaught but instead when it is sent to the gv this effect is easy to do without cooperation from your opponent.
Honestly, hearing that Obelisk saw competitive play bc of Dragon Rulers makes me still think about actual Egyptian God support (I still really love the design and feel so I still cope for getting it someday)
It exists tho? And it's... serviceable. It's a long shot away from being meta, but Egyptian Gods are definitely playable at least. Soul Crossing is a disgustingly strong card. Same goes for the Slifer-themed board wipe as well as the Ra support spell. And, of course, Ra Sphere Mode is simply amazing at breaking boards.
Mirrorjade and Despia Proskenion is pretty much my win condition with MirrorJade's effect to banish problematic boss monsters and field wipe and Proskenion's banishing, revival and burn effect by turn 3 you should be able to OTK no problem especially if you use Despia Dramaturge as fusion material for Proskenion you have a full lock down on the field with OTK.
Question: What made you pick Absolute Zero over Evil HERO Malicious Bane, since Bane can destroy all your opponent's monsters with lower ATK once per turn, and can't be destroyed? Not disagreeing (or agreeing), just curious.
I think the main reason is that absolute zero's effect triggers no matter how it leaves the field (unless sent back into the extra deck), which means most forms of removals and even your own card effects can trigger the nuke (which also means you can trigger it actively during your opponent's turn), and also, given the pace of the current metagame, you don't usually need a second nuke to establish a strong enough board presence to win, so Malicious Bane's once per turn is not highly necessary.
Thunderclap Skywolf definitely should have been on this list. If you use it as the main boss monster in a deck along with Thunder Seahorse to search Batteryman Solar which, on normal summon, can send skywolf to the GY, you can easily setup multiple raigeki effects for your opponent's turn. The cool thing about Skywolf is that its effect is arguably easier to activate than Torrential or Mirror Force given that its only requirement is being summoned from the GY. Several trap cards can bring your monsters back like Back to The Front, Call of The Haunted, and Oasis of Dragon Souls. It has a myriad of other supporting cards as well. Unlike Torrential or Mirror Force, Skywolf doesn't suffer from backrow removal that will stop you activating the effect as you can just chain your trap cards to bring back skywolf and still activate the raigeki effect on resolution. Skywolf decks (at least the one I play) are hyper consistent. Because you don't special summon on your first turn but your opponent's turn, you're able to get to your setup cards like Batteryman Solar and revival trap cards with other cards like Thunder Seahorse, Card of Demise, or any good "Pot" cards except Desires. Also, the drawback of Demise is actually a benefit for Skywolf decks because you need it in your GY to interrupt your opponent. Now, the drawback of Skywolf's effect and probably the reason that you didn't include it in the list is because it specifies "Face up monsters". But I think that drawback is less bad than potentially destroying your own monsters as well like how Dark Hole and Torrential Tribute can. The fact that it doesn't destroy your own monsters is even more valuable because of how Skywolf interacts with Batteryman Solar. Because Batteryman Solar will summon a thunder token whenever a thunder monster is summoned, you can start your plays with Batteryman, send Skywolf, pass turn, summon Skywolf, get the token, wipe your opponent's board, and probably have two thunder monsters when you start your turn because you've interrupted your opponent so much. Even if you don't have two, you can probably get another normal summon on the board via the plethora of draw spells at your disposal or the overpowered effect of Thunder Seahorse which searches not one, but two of a monster from the deck. If you have two thunder monsters and you've run out of revival traps or have dead cards in hand, you can use those two monsters to link into Some Summer Summoner which has an effect that allows you to, on your opponent's turn, discard one card to special summon a thunder monster from your GY to a monster zone it points to. Alternatively, if you start your turn with Skywolf on the field and need to get rid of it, you can link it and two other monsters into Soldier of Chaos and gain its additional effect which gives it Towers-like protection. By the time you get to Soldier of Chaos you've probably drained your opponent of resources to deal with such a threat which makes it a great way to close out the game. There are some obvious counters to Skywolf, though. If your opponent targets Skywolf with Called By The Grave and its effect resolves, you might lose the duel. This is why you play cards like Solemn Judgment, Dark Bribe, and Imperial Iron Wall (the most important). There's a trap card I like to tech in sometimes called Thunder Dragon Discharge which is a part of the Thunder Dragon archetype that prevents your Thunder Monster's effect from being negated. However, it doesn't prevent your revival traps from being negated and drawing multiple is really bad. TheDuelLogs, please play Thunderclap Turbo on stream. You would love it. TY.
for obelisk you could use lair of darkness so you can tribute 1 of your monsters and 1 of your opponent's to activate its effect, costing only 4 cards to summon it and activate its effect and also summoning defenses when your turn ends
I'd personally reduce lighting storm a few spots, just cause it sucks if you go first, or sucks if you draw it after you have a board built up, it is powerful, but most of the time in my experience at least it has a decently large chance of being a brick. In addition its board wipe is worse than the next few slots, since its only face up attack monsters, which makes it pretty easy to play around. good list as usual though.
I always think albaz strike is like the best released structure deck so far because of the staples, new monsters, lore, and the gorgeous tokens they bring.
I would be interested in a "top 10 generically good cards" series. I'm thinking about cards like "alpha, the master of beasts", "fairy tail - luna" or "aleister" which can be played in any deck and are good by themselves.
Best cards that revolve around helping normal summon monsters, or best cards that prefer to be normal summoned (like Breaker the magical warrior). Also, an idea for such a support card: _Normal Summon Cascade_ Quick Play Spell _Once per turn you may banish at least one monster you own with a level in your hand or field; until the end phase of your next turn you may conduct three additional normal or tribute summons per turn of monsters with the same level, type and attribute as that monster(s) you banished. When you activate this set card, this cards effects cannot be negated, and you gain LP equal to the combined levels of monsters you normal or tribute summon X500 until the end phase of your next turn. Monsters you normal or tribute summon after the activation of this card cannot be used as material to summon extra deck monsters until the end phase of your next turn, and until the end phase of your next turn your opponents cards are unaffected by their card effects._
I love Lightning Storms design as well. It is the lightning bolt like Raigeki, but in a sweeping motion as it destroys the ground, kind of mirroring Harpie's Feather Duster.
Im gonna guess ZEUS will be here. Pretty cool card, been the Accescode Talker for XYZ monsters (An accesible generic monster rlly good for Link Monsters)
I feel Judgment Dragon should have been on this list over Obelisk just on the basis that it's not a once per turn, it only costs 1000 LP to use his effect, and wipes out everything
Then again, what makes Protos better than Raigeki is the floodgate effect, not the Raigeki, so there's a debate to be had. However, it seems that TheDuelLogs draws the line at also destroying backrow, especially considering they've already made a video on field wipes.
It isn't like Raigeki in that it nukes the whole field instead of just monsters. It does require 4 different Lightsworns in gy to summon; mill top 4 cards of your deck, has no self-protection and only 3000 atk with 2600 def. Far easier to beat with both card effects and battle while being harder to summon. Paying more than 2000 lp can be detrimental as well. It is far more powerful an effect at the cost of protection and summoning: no protection and can only be special summon and with specific cards.
@@Prince_Eva_Huepow yeah, except JD can be summoned a lot easier than Obelisk, and can wipe out Obelisk since it does not target. It's a vastly superior card and you know it
@@alonsoarana5307 Equal power at most since some can just attack over it and Lightsworns excell at self-milling. Too bad you nuke yourself while you're at it in return for 1000 less damage than God. At least God can be tribute summoned and can't be targeted unlike JD who can only be special summoned and is defenseless. Paraphrasing what DL said, it becomes less useful the more of your resources you commit to your field. If you could play both, preferably not together, you'd be set to win.
Another Good card with a Raigeki like effect could be "Gandora X: The Dragon of Demolition" Who is a level 8 Dark Dragon Monster with the effect of destroy all other monsters on the field and inflict burn damage to your opponent equal to the Hightest attack of a Monster destroyed by this effect and also gains attack equal to the damage inflicted by this effect with the only downside being that if you used it's effect your Life points are halfed at the end of the turn, and It was so good that It was banned for a while.
That is OCG Effect which is much more stronger than TCG one In TCG Gandora X inflict Dmg to you Opp euqual to the moster which have Hightest ORIGINAL attack(max is 5000) and to summon a monster with that much Original Attack will require a lot of resources and will often be difficult So in TCG you can use 3 copy of it but People still rarely use it
Good video as always. But if I could make a request please use the background you used for Lightning Storm again. There was so much flashing that I had to scroll down and just listen to the audio.
What I love about that deck too is that it can go into Red Eyes Dark Dragoon very easily you would just have to be willing to splash Dark Magician and Magician Souls into it and the deck can take advantage of both cards very well.
I'm fairly surprised a card like AA-Zeus didn't make the list. It wipes out all monsters and backrow, can use its effect multiple times, even in the same chain, and isn't too hard to bring out in any XYZ deck.
Actually, I kinda like Cyber Eltanin. By banishing all Light Machine Monsters, it *sends* all monsters on the oponents side of the field to the GY on summon. And it can be searched by Cyber Emergency.
I thought that that Levia-Dragon would make this list. It has the effect that if you remove umi from your field you have a dark hole effect, but it doesn't remove Levia-Dragon. You can do it as much as possible and a lot of cards name them selfs umi. You can do it as many times as you want as well. I guess it probably wasn't used in competitive for whatever reason.
I’m so sad that the most underrated Raigeki like card wasn’t on this list. “Gingerbread House” an absolute beast when it comes to dealing with decks that special summon a lot of 1900 ATK + monsters, it also heals you as a cherry on top effect after destroying monsters. Duel logs please check out the card “Gingerbread House” this card deserve more recognition.🙏🏻
Idk if it would really count as a "best" raigeki effect but I'm a little surprised to see no mention of Aslla Piscu. Granted they nerfed him with his very first errata but considering he nukes face up monsters and burns, I would've thought he might've been mentioned. Ignoring, of course, the fact that earthbounds don't really see play due to their rather glaring weaknesses. :(
I mean Malicious Bane is easily summoned if you run 1 adusted 1 dark calling and run Nibiru/or some side deck Kaiju or some level 5+ support. Can clear boards and can increase atk by the effect and can’t be destroyed by battle or card effects.
I use Torrential Tribute for my Rikka deck in Master Duel and IRL. And to help prevent my opponent from destroying TT I use 3 Starlight Roads in my deck to make sure they don't board wipe my back row. Honestly, I'm glad Fury of Kairyu-Shin exists. Because back then, TT was the bane of my existence. And I'm just glad now, I can use it against someone else for a change.
idk if this counts but i love having citidel whos essentially a rygeki, though his effect is tied to destroying a machine with high atk to destroy all lower atk, though when hes 3k and can pop himself thats most monsters
I know earth machines are nowhere near top tier but man it’s sad not to see Machina Citadel on this list, even as an honorable mention. It has such an abusable and easily-recyclable Raigeki-like effect on top of providing a fat body and easy recursion. Any time I’ve managed to overcome a top tier deck with my earth machines, Citadel was always a critical piece of clearing my opponent’s board or getting combos going along with Anger Knuckle during my opponent’s turn, on top of the fact that it’s another easily accessible rank 10 piece for your BIG TANK TRAINS
In Master Duel, earth machine is pretty good since VFD is still viable, and infinitrack can turbo it out very easily and spam its effect thanks to Goliath fodder.
Video idea (since I don't think I've seen this one yet) "Top 10 Equipment Creatures." They don't have to be Union cards but I wouldn't be surprised if Mechina GearFrame was on the list. This would be different from the absorb effect with Relinquish & Plasma because those take the opponent's monsters. I'm thinking of equipping your own monsters. Cyberdark cards that used to grab Hunter Dragon & 5 Headed Dragon from the grave. (I used Rainbow Dark Dragon with Foolish, B. myself.) Red-Eyes Black Dragon Sword. The little dragon's for Buster Blader. Dragunity cards. Monsters that usually performed better attachment to another card than solely just themselves.
I have some list suggestions of you don't mind: Best Story cards part 2 Top 10 cards that show other cards Top 10 cards that aren't in Master Duel Top 10 stall cards. Top 10 generic pendulum cards. Top 10 "trap" cards. (Cards that seem good at first glance but aren't really that good.) Top 10 parody cards. (Like how Weed Out parodies Return from the Different Dimension.) Top 10 special conditions in the games. More Rescue Rabbit, please.
@TheDuelLogs you made a mistake when you were talking about level 8 synchros in the Elemental HERO Absolute Zero segment. Goyo Guardian is a level 6, not 8. I don't know if you caught that in editing, but I thought I'd mention it in case you didn't notice.
I still hate seeing Lightning Storm in my hand a lot of the time. As soon as you have anything face up, Lightning Storm becomes a brick. No telling how duels I've lost because I needed Raigeki or Feather Duster but got Lightning Storm.
Hey! Why isnt Supreme King Dragon Clear Wing not on your list!? I know that it can only destroy face up monsters..but it can still destroy a monster face down then deal dmg equal to its atk
honestly starving venom dragon should have at least had a shoutout, he is widely use with super poly and his raigeki effect does come up every once in awhile
Nice one. Tho I still do feel you could argue raigeki is better than the top 2. Lighting storm is honestly only useful against backrow decks. Combo decks almost always put their monsters in defense position unless they are playing a link monster on their end board. So generally speaking raigeki to me way is way better over lightning storm since even if it doesn't destroy all their monsters it will at least force out a negate.
You mentioned something about 2020. So was that when they changed cards with "When this card leave the field" to only work when the card is sent to the hand/gy/banish? Edit: Oh yeah looked it up. I was baffled when some effects don't work after I send cards back to the main deck.
I ran 2 Dark Holes in a Kozmo deck back when they were still meta. My Kozmo deck didn't get hurt by Dark Hole as all monsters would replace themselves with other Kozmo monsters
I kinda get why Garunix didn't fit in, but man a 3x Garunix + Sacred Phoenix deck is my #1 deck for just having fun. Start of every turn wiping everything and summoning a decent monster? Yes please!
Personally I see Lightning Storm as over ratted and not just slightly. Then again having a restriction of no face up cards is why I see it as infuriating.
@@aleks_moldi right. but its over rated because it being in your go 2nd hand is 100% luck based and not at all reliable. Its copies of other versatile cards in those slots that would be better. My way of seeing it. I mean my luck with it is terrible,.
What about these cards: 1) Gilford the Lightning: This Monster is Tribute Summon by Tributing 3 Monsters and if that happens it destroys all Monsters on the opponent's field 2) Special Hurricane: It activates by discarding a Card and it destroys all Monsters on the field that was Special Summoned 3) Torrential Tribute: When a Monster(s) is Summoned: Destroy all Monsters on the field 4) Dark Burning Attack: If you control Dark Magician Girl: Destroy all face up Monsters your opponent controls
I know its funny that raigeki makes 4th on a list about itself, I feel that still says something about how strong the actual board wipe effect is that only 3 alternative versions of itself are stronger than the OG
We need Mirror Force Max Just activate it from the hand to banish or wipe your opponent’s board at attack declaration (every monster, as long as one attacks), by surrendering half your life points.
