It’s ridiculous to not have Flores on this Went to the playoffs 5/10 years Won the super bowl 2/10 years And it wasn’t like other teams where talent bailed out bad coaching, he was just as if not more significant than a lot of his players
Hi I am diehard Denver Bronco fan and really enjoyed the AFC West in that decade leaving Chuck Knox off that list was bad leaving Tom Flores off completely ridiculous one of the most underrated coaches of all time
I love Jerry Glanville but to have him on this list and not Tom Flores is an absolute joke, and I don’t even like the Raiders. I’m so happy that he’s finally getting into the HOF this year
@@danmccoy9558 Leaving Knox off or Flores in that era doesn't make sense. Like Emma pointed out, he has a great track record AND it wasn't like he just won with Maddens team. He had to operate in the shadow of Madden, AND Al Davis. Knox made Buffalo a winning team when they had been struggling for a long time. And his work in Seattle, people can argue he ran it too much or was too conservative in the playoffs. But everywhere he went he gave a program new life. They were winners with him even if they didn't ultimately end with a title. He also contended with an owner who was a far cry from the modern Allen's. Knox was the type of coach who players ran through a brick wall for. It's no surprise Dick Vermeil became that coach for so many, coming from his coaching tree. I think Tom might've coached under him as well. His smile talking to Reagan over the phone will be forever known following that SB victory. Neither coach had it easy. There was a year the Raiders went 11-5 and had to settle for 3rd in his division! Respect to them both.
Well let’s see Bud Grant Marv Leavy George Allen Dan Marino Dan Fouts Kellen Winslow and dozens of other guys never won a Super Bowl and are in the hall of fame…that bs argument that if you don’t win a championship you can’t get in is ridiculous and is always spread by fake,dumb and uneducated fans and it makes your opinion irrelevant
I think Jim Mora should be up on that list. He took a bad New Orleans who never been in the playoffs in their franchise history and made them to one one of best linebacker corps in NFL history in the 80s. Sadly he is known for his press conference rants than what he did as a coach.
@@Titanbrotha00 Didn’t stop glanville who took over late in 85 Mora has a better record than Glanville in the 80s but not as much division or playoff success.
I like all the picks. I have a really odd little NFL coach thing. I was a waiter at a pretty high end restaurant in the San Francisco area back in the late 1970s. It was a very fast paced environment and we had to wear black slacks and black shoes. Wearing leather soled shoes would never work, you would have slid everywhere. So, we all wore Riddell black coaches shoes. With the weird wedges in the soles, we kept our feet without falling, or sliding, and they acted like sneakers. They were awesome for a waiter to wear. There's my coach story. LOL! 😅
I will always say that Joe Gibbs was the greatest coach of all time. Winning three World Titles with three different quarterbacks is a case of excellent coaching.
Ditka has a Chicago accent? Uh, nope! Born in Carnegie Pa. (where I live now.) Raised in Aliquippa PA. And what do those two towns have in common?? PITTSBURGH, the steel city, that's where. His accent is clearly what is known here as "Pittsburghese." Anyone that hears it, can recognize it in a heartbeat. One time I met a girl in a coffee shop, who said she was from Aliquippa. I not so jokingly asked her if she knew Ditka. She said she didn't know him, bit knew his mom, who was a real difficult lady. Not hard too believe is it? 😑💪
Don’t let anyone tell you that’s all about winning and that all the extra curricular stuff is a distraction that will hurt your legacy. Tom Flores was a better coach and won more championships than Ditka, Glanville and Wyche but they got the nod over Flores because they were bigger personalities. And Flores was the perfect temperament for the Raiders. A team with big loud personalities like the Raiders needed a sure, calm leader in the middle of the crazy. Also, Knox shoulda been on here over Glanville. I get why Don Coryell didn’t make it to me he was a 70s guy.
Um excuse me sir but the West Coast offense actually started in the 70s with Walsh in Cincinnati with Ken Anderson at QB.And not having Tom Flores on here was a joke.
I completely agree with you. Tom Flores honestly should be top 3. I do have to put Walsh and Gibbs ahead of him but to have Flores not in the top 10 is a joke.
2:31 Jerry Glanville. 7:27 Sam Wyche. 10:36 Tom Landry. 15:20 Marty Schottenheimer. 19:14 Dan Reeves. 23:50 Don Shula. 26:37 Mike Ditka. 31:25 Bill Parcells. 36:24 Joe Gibbs. 41:24 Bill Walsh.
I hate to be that person because yeah making these kinds of lists are difficult and you're never going to agree on everything, but putting Glanville here over Tom Flores should've been grounds for arrest.
It is unfair to criticize Marty for most of his losses in the Playoffs - Drive + Fumble. The Buffalo Juggernaut. His Kickers. ALL OF HIS KICKERS. 2006. Marlon F**king Mcree The only one I blame him for is the 97 loss vs Denver where he started Grbac instead of Rich Gannon.
Marty was one of the best. He made the Browns, Chiefs and Chargers into winners. The idiots on here saying dumb things about playoff choking and no rings are just non athletes sniffing jock straps...
@@EmmaBonn96 The other part is the fumble? if you look at the playsheet, the WRs Slaughter goal is to block the guy who ends up causing it. But instead he wants to look back at the play. Do your damn job! Block him! And on top of that, the guy who caused the fumble is on record stating he couldn't tackle Byner 1v1. So he only went for the fumble because he knew it was his only option. Marty is maligned because his team will follow his method/thought process all year. And then one player decides to be selfish in a moment, not listen to everything that got them there. And then they lose. I can't see the Browns doing any worse then the Broncos in the SB to be honest. I don't understand how a team goes 14-2 with a coach like that that follows all the details and then just decide to freelance in the critical moment. I'm frustrated just thinking about those losses and I don't even care about the teams he played for.
@@roninkraut6873 Its the same thing of why Knox I guess isn't on the list. Knox gave relevance to the Bills and Seahawks in the 80's. Players loved him and his Knoxisms.
Tom Flores in the 80s 74-46 (.617) 3 division titles 5 playoff berths 8 playoff wins 2 Super Bowl wins 3 losing seasons 8 seasons Jerry Glanville in the 80s 33-32 (.508) 0 division titles 3 playoff berths 2 playoff wins 0 Super Bowl wins 2 losing seasons 5 seasons Sam Wyche in the 80s 49-47 (.510) 1 division title 1 playoff berth 2 playoff wins 0 Super Bowl wins 4 losing seasons 6 seasons Tom Landry in the 80s 78-58 (.574) 2 division titles 5 playoff berths 5 playoff wins 0 Super Bowl wins 3 losing seasons 9 seasons Marty Schottenheimer in the 80s 52-34-1 (.610) 3 division titles 4 playoff berths 2 playoff wins 0 Super Bowl wins 2 losing seasons 6 seasons Dan Reeves in the 80s 85-50-1 (.629) 4 division titles 5 playoff berths 6 playoff wins 0 Super Bowl wins Dan Reeves Tom Flores head to head record 8-5 (Reeves over Flores) Don Shula in the 80s 94-57-1 (.622) 5 division titles 5 playoff berths 6 playoff wins 0 Super Bowl wins Mike Ditka in the 80s 79-41 (.658) 5 division titles 5 playoff berths 5 playoff wins 1 Super Bowl win Bill Parcells in the 80s 64-46-1 (.586) 2 division titles 4 playoff berths 5 playoff wins 1 Super Bowl win 2 losing seasons 7 seasons Joe Gibbs in the 80s 91-45 (.669) 4 division titles 5 playoff berths 11 playoff wins 2 Super Bowl Wins 2 losing seasons 9 seasons Bill Walsh in the 80s 90-45-1 (.665) 6 division titles 7 playoff berths 10 playoff wins 3 Super Bowl Wins I think it’s fair to say that Flores should’ve been at least 7th and I could argue he could be as high as number 3 He is clearly better than Glanville, Wyche, Landry and Schotenheimer, but his stats definitely get eclipsed by Gibbs and Walsh. He is comparable to Reeves, Shula, Ditka, and Parcells
The real best coach of the 1980s with John Madden who's commentary help teach an entire generation what football meant how it worked the intricacies of it and how it could be perfected
Reeves deserves a spot for being a first coach in Denver to realize his greatest asset was John elway and to build the team around him and his skillset. Is one of the things Bill belichick has been messed up throughout his career building building defense and offense around your most talented building blocks. Instead of doing what Chicago's been doing with Justin Fields or other nonsense and coaching idiocy (Which btw makes you wonder how tall is John elway really was and it took of running game of par excellence before he finally won his super bowls) that's why I have trouble raising him above Dan Marino
Does Danny what year is in Dallas where some of the most underrated. White with a dominant quarterback who came up big when he needed to. they just didn't have enough to get past the emerging talent in the NFC, which I'm like a 70s is where all the great teams seemed to now emerge
@Harry Engel Chuck Noll would be my #1 for the 1970s followed by Tom Landry, Don Shula, John Madden and Bud Grant. As for the 1990s, it would be Jimmy Johnson, Marv Levy, and Bill Cowher for the Top 3.
@Harry Engelyeah thinking about it further for the 1990s it would be Jimmy Johnson, Marv Levy, and Mike Shanahan for the top 3. Most of Bill Cowher's success came in the 2000s so I would put him at 4 or 5 for the 1990s.
Where in the blue hell is Tom Flores? This is a disgrace! Having guys like Sam Wyche and Jerry Glanville on the list, but not Tom Flores, is preposterous! The man won two Super Bowls! Why is he not on this list?
Two of the top three spots when it comes to the most rushing yards in a Superbowl are Redskins. That's how much Gibbs put into that offensive line. John Riggins of course is an all-time great and is the hall of fame, but Timmy Smith (who has the Superbowl record with 204 rushing yds) is neither. And with how the league is now, I don't think Smiths record is ever gonna be broken. Since the new Millennium, the closest someone's gotten to the record is 124 rushing yards. And in '91, we may have witnessed the greatest single-season by an offensive line. The Redskins offensive line that year only allowed 9 sacks all season. 2 of the sacks allowed were in the final week of the regular season when a backup QB was playing. And in the playoffs, they allowed 0 sacks. That line kept the QB clean.
@@cooperwolfe5478 I'd agree with that. He knew how to adjust and how to get the most out of what he had. And we can't forget that Gibbs came back to coach Washington after being away for 11 years. His comeback was for four seasons, and he took Washington to the playoffs twice during that time. And in his final season, he not only got to the playoffs with a backup QB after his starter got hurt, he kept the team together and got to the playoffs after their best player was killed during the season.
@@KMC5240Absolutely. And the other thing too is that he is the last coach to win at least 11 games in a season with Washington. And that was in his 2nd to last season in his first stint.
@Harry Engel Knox never took Seattle to the SB, Wyche did. As for Glanville, he would be #11 as he was REALLY GOOD (except in the playoffs) at the end of the 80s.
@Harry Engel You have to take into account that A. Wyche came in 84, Knox was already there. B. His Buffalo team was already established from the late 70s. And the Seattle team already was already built-in. Everything was there, and they just needed an RB at the draft and they got one (for a short term) in Curt Warner. But, they could have had Dickerson.
I don’t know if I’d put Marty ahead of Flores. Flores had a better win percentage, more playoff berths, and more playoff success, not to mention the Super Bowls
Flores belongs on this list more than Glanville or Wyche. Two Super Bowls in 4 years, the first wildcard team to win a Super Bowl, plus having to deal with the move out of Oakland to LA, and won a Super Bowl for LA too! And I lost money on Super Bowl XV as I stupidly bet on the Eagles to win that Super Bowl. In spite of that, Flores HAS to be on this list! Shameful!
John Robinson of the Rams made the playoffs 6 times in the 80s with no losing seasons making it to the NFC championship twice. Jerry Glanville had 2 losing seasons made it to playoffs 3 times and never won in the playoffs!
For all that a franchise goes through to find the franchise QB, Jerry Glanville had one GIFTED to him in Brett Favre, on his roster & couldn’t see it because he was caught up in his act of bravado. Behind the crazy act Glanville was a good coach but he had to pay the price for not realizing that Favre could’ve made the Falcons relevant from 1992 to 2010 if he had just developed Favre. No franchise was willing to risk that egg on their face of letting a Favre go & thus wouldn’t hire Glanville again.
Harry Engel hey there Harry. Long time no read. I got slammed with work and health issues so I haven’t commented back on your own top 10 list but it was excellent & appreciate the time you took on it. Yes everything you said above is correct. For all of Jerry Glanville‘s faults he has stayed committed to helping young football players at the college & high school level. I love the fact that Glanville went to Hawaii & his asst coach who became Falcons HC, June Jones stayed close with him & went there too. Some might not realize that Jones & Glanville talked about Jones excellent QB on the high school team that Jones coaches & that they decided he was so good that it warranted calling a member of their Falcons staff form those years who has done very well for himself too. The former staff member NICK SABAN like the QB so much that he gave him a scholarship to play at Alabama. The QB played lights out until injured but was so good that he was still drafted #5 overall: Tua Tagovailoa!!!
Brett Favre would never have made amounted to anything in Atlanta. He went to the right situation in the right moment on the right team on the right coach to bring out his talent.
In the 80s dance show was more of a hindrance to the dolphins and he was a good coach Either Don and lost it or Dan Marino and the rest of the crew in Miami were doing a whole lot of cocaine while going over film and studying their Play books There's so much fun to be had in Miami that I don't think it's a coincidence that they haven't wanted anything there since the early seventies before the South American cocaine explosion
@Hector Rodriguez I agree with you about their offense, but their D was still pretty good. They had Meck, Tom Jackson, Simon Fletcher, Dennis Smith, and in 1989 they drafted & played Steve Atwater
Since this is suppose to be about the 80's and not overall body of work I'd pick Ditka over Parcells. Its a shame that Tom Flores isn't on the list or Chuck Knox. I would've picked them over Wyche and Glanville. For Flores I'd put him in Don Shula's spot spot.. Shula is too high was well. I'd pick Dan Reeves over Shula in the 80's. Once again not judging from the overall body of work but just the decade of the 80's.
Coryell definitely belongs on the list and so does Knox if they can either one, TakebGary glanville spot.. your argument isn't coryell only had six good years in the 80s? As you just argued that Landry had five good years and that's why I should be on your list
You know who really belongs on this list is Raymond Barry but he was only giving 3 years by the idiotic Patriot ownership. the man took a team that was a total mess and took them to a SB, the Patriots very first. It was the first team to win three games on the road to get to the super bowl. And in three years he was 48 - 39
Joe Gibbs should be #1 the Redskins played in a much tougher division during the 80's (NFC East) with the Giants, Eagles and Cowboys compared to the 49ers who dominated the NFC West. That's why the 49ers won more games and divisions
I think Bill Walsh getting number 1 is as much his performance as his system he founded becoming the basis for most modern day football offensive schemes
Texas vs. OU and Cowboys vs. Redskins were Tupperware parties compared to Oilers/Bengals when Glanville and Wyche were coaching those respective teams. It was a white hot mutual hatred.
The 80s is the decade that started seeing the win now or get fired noow mentality in the NFL coaches like Landry Noll and Madden wouldn't have stood a chance and today is NFL they would have been booted out after a year maybe two. Same goes for Staubach and Bradshaw who started out their careers pretty badly and today's age would have been gone and out of the NFL
Ditka was one of the worst coaches of the decade. There's another good place you can put Chuck Knox for Don coryell, the 85 Bears ran a defense in the NFL had never seen before and were overwhelmed until after a few years they figured it out and the Bears faded back into obscurity as did Buddy Ryan and ditka. Don't get me wrong it was a monster of a team and impossible to beat but it was based on a gimmick that wasn't going to last any more than the Wildcat. And do we even need the Mets in the draft Day blundering made to ruin a talented saints team quite a few coaches could have won the least three super bowls with that Bears defense maybe four . Just because you have a tough guy kind of exterior to declares like doesn't mean you're bright enough to be running the team day in and day out
I think if any coach who had the slightest swag or attitude was the coach of the cowboys they would of been hated and despised beyond belief. Landry being a quite controlled gentleman kept people to just hating Dallas and stopped many from mailing more death threats then were actually mailed. Even though Landry did receive that one
@Fries literally a horse collar tackle away from the Super Bowl in 81. It was just that close. And the worst part about the competition is that outside of the Niners it pretty much all came out of the NFC East and their division mates. The Skins and Giants accounted for 5 Lombardi Trophies between 80 and 91 and Philly and the Skins lost another 2 of those Super Bowls between them. It's a flat out case of Dallas raising the level of quality in their competition by their sustained excellence for so many seasons in the 60s and 70s. When you give the other teams in your division a target to shoot at every season any owner that gives a crap and has the brains to hire a decent GM/Coach is going to eventually get better. And bad ownership is also why Dallas and Washington have sucked for the last two decades. Two idiot owners with giant egos that won't let the professionals run their teams.
Why is landry on this list? Tom flores didn't make this list. Chuck noll didn't make this list? So landrys 2 super bowl wins in the 70s carry over to the 80s but chucks 4 doesn't? I know the nfl network loves the cowboys and this list absolutely proves it.
Chuck Noll should be on that list cause after he'd won 4 super bowl rings in the 1970's he was still coaching in the 80's too like come on now he needs to be on the list 6:50
