Top 10 JRPGs Everybody Hates But I Don't 

I am one of the few defenders of FF13. Yes the combat system was sorely lacking, but it's story is really good. The characters all felt like they were important. Like they needed to be there. They all had good arcs. I also had a lot of fun with 13-2 and Lighting Returns

It hurts that shadow hearts ended, i loved every single one of the games. Incredible stories, incredible references. Fantastic locations and even some weird thrown in. Not even mentioning the amazing battle system. I love them all. Koudelka included.

Tales of Legendia was one of the first games I played as a kid that actually made me cry, the story was very engaging and emotional at times!

People hate fates, through principle. People voted with their money to let nintendo know it wasn't a good idea because, it was a scummy practice to separate the game into three games. They are so similar that they could have made one game. I think people never really got over how cheated they felt when the games were separated. I was able to snag the collectors edition and have all the games on one cartridge but having to buy each separate would have definitely put a sour taste in my mouth as well.

Also, I treat my JRPGS like interactive books. So you could say that writing is literally everything to me. That being said, I can enjoy something ironically if it's badly written. But only if it reaches a certain threshold of "bad". On the other hand, a plot that could otherwise be intriguing to me, could be completely undercut by a few poorly written elements.

As far as I know it's a myth that Balthier was supposed to be the main character of FFXII. I think Vaan was chosen from the beginning (by executives, yes). And I do think it would feel less like a FF without Vaan and Penello.

Stella deus was one of my favorite strategy games ever made. I LOVE that game! That being said I was totally amazed that final fantasy xii saw a ps4 release. It's a great game and I always hated that Japan got the zodiac job system release and we never did so I was thrilled.

I like Suikoden 4, what I don't like is the random enemy encounter every 3 seconds especially when you're in the ship.

found your channel a few days ago. keep up the good work.

19:30 Fire Emblem fates special edition cartridge does have the “Revelations” line in physical form. I tracked down a copy with case, I believe it was bundled with the fire emblem 3ds console.

Good list! I agree with you on Tales of Legendia. It is an underrated masterpiece! The character development is some of the best I've ever seen. Every character you play as fights differently, which allows the player to keep the battles fresh. The music is sensational! You'll find yourself humming the tunes when you're not playing the game. There is so much depth to the story and it's characters, giving the player such an emotional connection to it all. To add a game that I liked and everyone else hated, it is The Last Remnant. I know you gave up on this game Eric, but if you level up your party early in the game and balance the teams with effective healers and brawlers, you'll breeze through most of the game. There are also characters you can recruit later in the game that contribute substantially in battles.

What do you use to record gameplay footage? What about 3ds footage as well?

I didn't hate Tales of Zestiria, but I was disappointed by it. Firstly, it struck me as rather short - I reached the end and thought "is that it?" Secondly, because the pseudo open world places some fairly tight restrictions on travel at times, so I wound up finishing the game with several side quests unfinished - not because my party was incapable, but because the game wouldn't let me go where I needed to go to finish. Finally, because while I started off enjoying the battle system, they kept layering on additional systems to the point where I gave up and just switched all my characters to auto. Since the combat was always the main plus point for the series for me, that was very disappointing. Of the other games you mention, the ones I've played I've mostly enjoyed. There are MUCH worse JRPGs out there.

Okay, Erick, I need to know... the main reason/fear I've always had about Valkyie Profile is that it was time-based and unplayable if you want to take your time with it. Can you tell me what I have right and what I have completely wrong about it?

I totally feel you on The Last Hope. Maybe it's the fact that I hadn't played any of the previous Star Oceans when I first bought it, but it was a breath of fresh air compared to the 7th gen's other offerings.

Final fantasy 8 everybody hates but i don't

I've never played Legendia because it's not multiplayer and that's what I play them for. My wife my son and I play them together. Most people hate Graces and Graces F is our favorite Tales game. We loved seeing them go from children to adults and the after story in F was fantastic.

Correction: Fire Emblem Revelations DOES exist in physical form as a part of the collector's edition released in all three main regions (Japan, USA and Europe). I personally own one (European). Needless to say, it costs a lot now.

I''m totally with you on Tales of Legendia. I also liked it so much I feel sad knowing that it probably will never receive a remaster for new consoles because of all the hatred. Great video! Thanks!

Personally I really like Final Fantasy XIII. I can certainly understand why people hate it, and maybe I'm biased since it was my first ever Final Fantasy game, but I have quite fond memories of it. Even find myself going back and playing it every now and again, though not too much these days with how much of a back log I have. Oh, and Blue Dragon too. Maybe it's not hated, but I seriously don't think it got the love it deserved, if that makes sense

Wow, that artsyle of Stella Deus looks nice and detailed af.

My experience with these games: Star Ocean 4: Played like 6 hours or something like that back in the PS3. I remember a lot of hate in the dub, and I felt it was very well deserved, but PS3 had japanese so no biggie for me. I do remember not liking the camera angles while exploring. Other than that, I really had no problem with the characters so far and I always loved SO battle system. I've been meaning to play this again in the PS4 remaster version. It would have to be incredibly great to surpass SO3 in my eyes though, but I'm confident I'll enjoy playing it again. Shadow Hearts 3: I have a confession: I've never played the Shadow Hearts franchise. Tales of Legendia: This game is amazing! Still the best OST of all the Tales franchise, an overall great cast of character and a very enjoyable story. Graphics were mediocre for its time, sure, and dungeon design was pretty much awful (I remember finishing a battle and always wondering in which direction was I going). Fuck Shirley though. Seriously, fuck Shirley. Still a beloved Tales for me. Stella Deus: Never played this one. Looks like a game I would enjoy. Mimana: Sorry, I have to count myself among people who didn't really enjoy it that much. Can't say it was really good. I don't "hate" it and I actually did have a degree of fun with its cliché story and its characters, but the gameplay was pretty damn bad. I remember the battle system was really flawed. Suikoden 4: This game is great. It's still a Suikoden and I love it. Boat travelling was kinda bad but the story was really good even if short and the Suikoden system is always a joy. It was also a problem having just 3 fighters in a game with so many playable characters. True, I'd rather play 1, 2, 3 or 5, but that does not make Suikoden IV bad, the others are just incredibly good. And yes, Suikoden V is arguably the best Suikoden for me too, though I admit the most famous Suikoden II is also freaking amazing, so it's a bit of a toss-up for me. Final Fantasy XII: It's not among my favorite FF games, but I don't consider it the killer of the franchise either. That goes to FFXIII. I never really liked the main characters too much, except Balthier maybe, and that in itself is a huge hit. The gambit system quickly became a bit too abusable for me, but it was very creative and I could still applaud it. While I didn't really like the characters, I did love the Ivalice setting and the story of the game. And even to this day, I think this game is looks beautiful. Music is on point too, but that's a given even today with FF. Tales of Zestiria: I admit I was convinced against playing the game here. Lots of people that enjoy the franchise talked me really bad about Zestiria, so I never gave it any priority. I did watch the anime as a follow-up after playing Berseria. I actually have the game, but like I said, never been a priority to play so far. Tales of Symphonia 2: I will start by saying I like Symphonia 1, but it's probably not on my top 5 Tales game. Maybe because of this, I actually still haven't played the sequel. Fire Emblem Corrin: I can agree with this opinion. I consider it the worst in the franchise because I didn't like characters, world or story really. But the game is still a Fire Emblem and the gameplay is still a Fire Emblem, which is something I will always enjoy. Also, I think Fire Emblem has never been the epitome of storytelling really, the problem is that we didn't have the likeable characters here.

Glad I came across your channel. Great work.

glad you speak about Mimana chronicles i love that game so much & have played through every endings ,i wish they would make a sequel someday

Fates is one of my favorite FE games....and I know a lot of "hardcore" fans hate me for saying this but it's in part due to the Phoenix Mode. I care more about story & characters than the intense challenge, so I had a lot of fun playing through Fates. I even enjoyed the story ( I have the physical copy of Birthright, but I have yet to get Conquest & Revelations ). It's actually Ashe was meant to be FFXII's protagonist not Basch....and I'm actually one of the fans who loved X-2 ( the music, classic ATB battle system and Dress sphere job system were amazing IMO ). I enjoy XII as well, but man that license grid was taken a few steps too far IMO. I had trouble getting that into Zesteria, but I don't hate it. Frankly IMO the worst Tales of games are Dawn of the New World, Xillia 2 and the Tales of the World spin-offs. Main reason I didn't like Dawn of the New World was that I just didn't care for the monster catching system ( I didn't mind Emille himself, and I love that he's voiced by Johnny Bosch ) but the Wii controls were terrible ( I bought the PS3 HD ports but haven't gotten around to downloading/installing them yet ) Suikoden IV is a fun game....III on the other hand, has the WORST army battles in the series ( though I can't speak for V or Tierkreis ) which makes me hate it slightly.... a few I love but a lot of people seem to hate: Pokemon gens 6 & 7 ( seriously, hating the games for being "too easy" is just a stupid reason especially for a Pokemon game ) Final Fantasy XIII-2 ( it made all the right improvements on XIII's gameplay and it was fun....still has problems but not bad ) Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria ( at least I think it's hated, given that people only ever seem to talk about the original... ) Grandia III ( I just enjoyed it, never understood the hate it gets )

I agree with you on a few of these, as most I haven’t played yet, but this video makes me want to give them a shot. Tales of Zestiria was my first tales game so maybe that’s why I liked it because I didn’t have anything to compare it to, but it had a nice story, and good characters, nothing I’ve never seen before but a charming game for sure. I actually loved fire emblem conquest and birthright and thought they were great games. I understand the criticisms as conquest and birthright have very similar stories and end goals, and you have to pay extra for revelations to get the “true ending” but the characters, more specifically your siblings in each games are fantastic, and of course the game play was great like in any other fire emblem game. Great video Erick and I’m looking forward to the next list!

I actually agree with these choices. I’m a huge suikoden fan and 4 is the weakest but I never thought it was like bad or worth hate. I also enjoyed legendia and shadow heart 3. Just cause a game may not live up to its predecessors doesn’t mean it’s bad or worth hating.

Thanks, Erick, for the shout out Star Ocean: The Last Hope. I agree, it's the best Star Ocean game, and very underrated for some reason. The battle system was very entertaining.

I only saw the 1st game you mention (Star Ocean) & I had to leave a comment. Will continue watching the rest after this. But I *love* the Star Ocean series (except Integrity), & I also LOVE The Last Hope International. In fact, I named my dog Reimi after this game, due to the character's inner strength, and her name's meaning, itself (most faithful & loyal companion in Chinese). Now to watch the rest of this vid. (There'll likely be others I love, too).

Final fantasy 12 was my favorite but you have to have the strategy guide because it gets really difficult

Kingdom hearts re chain of memories. I looooooved the combat and the story was superb. So strange how I love the game for the very reason everybody else hates it.

Very nice video. What about a video about "RPG's I didn't like but now I do", and vice-versa?

I discovered your channel recently. Very nice show! I love jrpg as you do and I think it is always good to have someone remembering the new generations about real good games. As for this video, I agree with you especially with star ocean 4. Solid game, maybe the story is simplistic, but I had hella fun with it. Final fantasy XII on the other hand, I feel like the hate is legit. I have fun with ff xii, a lot of fun, the gamplay is solid. Probably one of the best gamplay system in the entire series, but I really hated the writing. The plot was very promising and interesting, but the lack of dialogues and direction ruined it.

Bro i only stumbled on your channel through your first what the hell happened video and that was a couple of months ago, i got hooked so i binged watch every video you have, man i love how you put classic bgm from every game that i played, this time it's from my fave FF of all time FFIX the bgm Treno love doing auctions there lol

Have you ever played Dragon Quest Builders, White Knight Chronicles, or Ni No Kuni? I haven't tried those yet, so I was wondering if you ever mentioned them in any of your videos.

Thanks for your videos-I agree with almost all you post regarding RPGs. Stella Deus reminds me of Xenogears graphically, how is the story compared to Xenogears?

Yeah, the hate for Final Fantasy started when 11 was released as an online only game. Then 12 comes out and it's radically different from every Final Fantasy game before it. I personally thought it was awesome, but fans wanted their traditional Final Fantasy back.

What about Legendia's story was that great? I found it to be the most shallow.

I really liked and enjoyed all of the games on this list except for Stela Deus and Fire Emblem but that's only because I never played them. I agree with you about Tales of Legend is. It was a masterpiece. Tales of Bersaria on PS4 is a good game too. I also enjoyed Star Ocean on PS4.

Beat Star Ocean 3. Didn't do last dungeon after I beat the game. Not interested in collecting to level 400 or what ever.

People hated FF12? That game is loved and so popular now. Life is strange..

Just a little something that is a little bit unknown about Shadow Hearts: there are actually 4 games. Koudelka is the first in the series, the only one who does not have the same name.

Imma say, I did a review on Dawn of the new world. Didn't love the game, but I did have fun. Though the gameplay restrictions on characters NOT named Emile or Marta was a BIG negative for me.

I recently got into Shadow Hearts. I LOVE From The New World, it's my favorite of the three games. However, the Chinese aura of SH1 was something I REALLY loved. The last multimedia I finished that had that Chinese spiritual aura that I loved was Avatar, Last Airbender by Nickelodeon.

I loved every main Final Fantasy titles except for X-2, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. Even though everyone hates FF XIII I liked it. I thought it had a good ending that was ruined by XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. I also loved every Tales of game starting from Symphonia onwards since I never played the older games before that. I can overlook the flaws if the battle system and story is good which they are to me.

I loved battling yiazmat in final fantasy 12. It took a while to kill, but it was extremely fun!

About the Tales of Symphonia games... I suggest getting the Game Cube versions. Those games run at a buttery smooth framerate of 60hz while wile the PS3 version is locked at 30hz.

Hi, Eric. First of all, I really like your videos. Keep up the good work that you already been doing. I'm from Brazil and if my english fails at one point of this comment, please forgive me. hahahahah I haven't played all of the games that are on this list, but I will comment on those that I didn't like that much. (hate is a really strong word hahahah) Shadow Hearts FTNW: This is really the weakest game of the franchise, but I agree with you. It's not that bad and I didn't knew that this game is hated so much. The only reason I can think of is the main protagonist. Yuri has a really strong presence and charisma and the protagonist of this game is not that badass. Tales of Legendia: MAN, I really didn't like this game. For me, it's the worst of all series. The story is good until the middle of the game, afterwards it's annoying and tedious. The characters are good and really have personality. I think that this is the only thing that kept me in the game until the end. The battle system it's the worst. Really repetitive and that "special bar" it's not really helpfull. This game doesn't have mystical artes and for a Tales games it's important, IMO. Suikoden IV: The only suikoden that I didn't like. This game it's really terrible. The protagonist isn't charismatic at all. When he walks it's like he's pooped and forget to clean himself. The story is shit and doesn't even compare do suikoden 2, 3 or 5. Everything in this game is bad hahahahahhaha Final Fantasy XII: I don't hate or dislike this game. I think that the game is very fun and really good. The reason people hate this game, I think it's because of some factors. First, some characters are really annoying, like Vaan or Penelo... The villain is the worst villain in all series. Seriously, all the judges are more villain than him. The story is not that good too, for a final fantasy game. So I think these are the things that people dislike in this game. P.S. Final Fantasy XIII it's soooo good, I will watch your video to try to understand why you hate it so much. Tales of Zestiria: The second worst tales for me. Berseria is SO superior in ALL WAYS. First of all, for me, the story in this game it's really not impressive. The plot it's too much linear, I've waited for things that blew me away, but didn't happen. I've missed character development too. Berseria has a lot of that, the characters there are way more interesting than in this game. So, for me, zestiria was a fun game to play, but in the end, it's only the second worst game of series for me. And that's it. Hope you can understand what I tried to say on every game. Have a nice day. o/

star ocean the last hope i liked that game a lot spent like 300 hours in order to beat the secret boss ethereal queen

That's how I played Legendia too! I realized I couldn't use Senel well, switched to Chloe, and had few problems! Namely, every time she wasn't in the party! I honestly want Legendia to get a Remake. It would smooth out the battle system a bit, and maybe balance the Eres drops a bit more (which was my only real big problem...though knowing me I was just getting super unlucky and other people didn't have to wail on enemies for hours to learn their spells). I'd scream with delight and preorder it as soon as possible.

Honestly, Zestiria is easily one of the most overhated Tales games. Sure, it had its flaws, but it was still a lot of fun, and the cast was some of the most endearing Tales casts I've come across. Also people call this the worst while forgetting about the atrocity that was Tempest or the trainwreck that was Graces F's story (even if its gameplay was awesome.).

star ocean 4 the last hope i have it i didn't finish it and I love it but i understand why people hate it its the most stupid reason they hate it because of the protagonist name Rdge maverick well yeah its bad name but at least it is not maibigbutt

Also on symphonya 2 the main characters alter ego is actually the voice actor of echigo from bleach

Hi !! Erick do you like front mission series ?

My 2nd favorite game of all time/my favorite Tales game is Tales of the Abyss. I didn't like Symphonia at all, might be alone in the but I don't think it holds up, I have not played Legendia tho, on your recommendation I might check it out :)

I’m a fan of the tales series, the only thing I hate about tales of Zestiria is the camera in battle, it’s just a drone flying around not a see through walls, you can’t focus if you’re fighting enemies in narrow places.

I loved SH: The New World. I never got the hate for it either, and the one that gets the most love of the series, Covenant, I found nothing special about over the other 2. I loved all three of them equally.

Cool list! Ps: Tony’s chocolonely ftw!

I am two years late, but who cares? I'm happy you put Tales of Zestiria on here, because that game was actually my entry into the Tales series, and I love it. I really don't understand the hate for this game. It's amazing - I'll admit the cutscenes are a bit slow and awkward, and while it does feel like you move very slowly at first, you're actually moving faster than you think if you look at the map and follow your icon. I also know Eizen is in Berseria, which I plan to play once I finish Zestiria (which I haven't gotten around to cause I didn't have a computer for a while - I got the Steam versions), and I'm definitely excited for that. As a side note, I also grabbed Tales of Symphonia while it was listed at $4.99 during the Steam Summer Sale, and I'm loving that game too. I definitely want Tales of Vesperia, as well as the two Tales of Xillia games (if I can ever find a way to get them without having to buy a PS3, I might have to settle for watching playthroughs unfortunately). I actually even pre-registered for Tales of Crestoria on mobile, and it just got installed today so I'm absolutely gonna play that when it officially launches - the beta gameplay I watched has already made me invested in the story.

I remember buying stella deus, poping it in, hearing a few lines of the english dubbed dialogue, and right back into the case it went. And it's been sitting in my box of old PS2s since then.

My list Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded Final Fantasy VIII Final Fantasy XIII trilogy Legend of Mana SaGa Frontier Shin Megami Tensei Persona Dragon Quest VI Realms of Revelation Megaman Battle Network 4 Castlevania Harmony of Dissonance Nostalgia Chrono Cross

What game is number 6? Can’t hear it. I’m interested in playing it. Thansk

I love the Tales series and like Legendia a lot. Without a doubt it has the best soundtrack out of any other game in the entire series. I loved how the MC didn't use a sword and how the second arc of the story was back story for everybody; I really appreciate that. Only annoying bit was the random battles

Suikoden was my little brother favorite suikoden (beside 2 of course). I haven't got the chance to played it tough, just watching him play

I always loved Final fantasy 12. And yes it is hard and has a learning curve, but as annoying as that is, that's one of the reasons it was so great! Hard to run out of things to do, yes lots of grinding, but overall awesome game! I bought all of the 13 serious and never finished a single one of them! Yes 13 was beginning of lower standards of the Final fantasy series.

I like Legendia, it went back to the linear battle system that I personally prefer from the older Tales games, having the grappler be the main character was an odd choice, but as you say, about half an hour into the game you get a standard sword user anyway, and the fact that the typical JRPG defeat God and avert the apocalypse plot is basically over at the halfway point of the game is refreshing.

have you played fire emblem echoes? it's already one of my favorite games of all time!

OMG I totally feel you on your number 10 I absolutely adore that game and I have no idea why it gets so much hate I have even played other Star Ocean games that are very widely renowned amongst the community and I don't know why it's considered bad

Suikoden IV is the first game in the series I've played and beat followed by V. Currently playing 1 atm. I love these games.

star ocean... difficulty spikes, i played the game, then when i reaching the final level the first encounter, if i remember correctly black soldiers. they just kept killing me so easy. i just couldnt understand, how did i get slaughtered like that?

Tales of Zestiria was awesome to me. It wasn’t my favorite tales game but it’s not my least favorite either.

The plot for Star Ocean The Last Hope might have had a terrible third act but the combat, art, music and endgame were absolutely amazing. It was a fantastic game and I'm glad it introduced me to the franchise

I personally LOVED the Final Fantasy 13 Trilogy. For me now from what I saw is FF Origin Stranger of Paradide the FF Game which will ruin the Franchise.. I liked every FF Game. And I played A LOT. Ok still need to give FF 12 a 2nd Chance on the Switch but I don't think that it is not so bad like this one..

I don't like that Star Ocean due to the plot, characters, Item creation and characters werent as fun as three imo

Playing Zestiria now. Keep in mind, this is my 1st Tales of game, so I dont have biases blinders on. My only complaint is how convoluted the combat system is, but it isn't bad once you wrap your head around it. The characters are tolerable and the story is the generic Shonen Jump, Power of Friendship trope wrapped in King Arthurs clothes. After playing 850+ hours of Trails 1-4 right before Zestiria, I actually welcome the more light hearted straight forwardness of the game honestly. NGL, I bought Vesperia, Berseria, and Arise when I got Zestiria, and the reason I'm playing it 1st is because of the negative reviews. So I will say, if this is the worst game in the franchise, I'm kind of excited to see how the others play.

Another really enjoyable video! My top 10 JRPGs that I like that people hate are as follows in no particular order. Tales of Zestira (PS4) Paper Mario Color Splash (Wii U) Tales of Symphonia Chronicles (PS3) Final Fantasy 8 (PS1) Final Fantasy 12 (PS2) Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter (PS2) Ephemeral Fantasia (PS2) Shining Wisdom (Saturn) Earthbound Beginnings (Nes/Famicom) Zelda 2 The Adventures of Link (Nes)

i actually liked the ffxiii trilogy a lot. the ps1 style ff games will always be my favorite and i really wish they had stuck with that basic formula, but the story and characters in xiii trilogy kept me hooked and interested all the way through the entire trilogy. and the time management and level of customization in lightning returns is so amazing i can always go back and replay that game. to me ff15 was horrible and i've very rarely been that bored playing a game.

I like the Shadow Hearts series (the first game is actually my favourite game of all time) and while I agree that the third game gets a lot of unnecessary hate, your argument about it like how it should have been a spin-off for not being tied enough to the other two, just rings of ignorance to me. The game is very heavily tied I think, what with a still dark theme with its villains, the fact that malice is still around as a big point to the story and while the fusions aren't as plentiful (and are different thematically) they are still there. Also the gameplay is the same, so saying it's not really worthy of being a sequel feels off, and as a fan of the game I kind of feel your kinda feeding into the hate, rather than showing why you don't hate the game. Just my two cents, as a big fan of the series and that game as well

Oooh that Tales of Symphonia 2 take was something, and whereas I don’t hate the game I have a lot of issues that add up, 1: The story was alright but nothing crazy, the new characters were only okay, but how they treated the original cast was really what did it for me, as someone who would still say the original Symphonia is an absolute masterpiece it just felt meh. I wish it was better and something that I really enjoyed. I’ve thought of some interesting fan fiction writing idea with the Tales series and I’d love to write how I would have told the story.

I did enjoy Legendia's story, but my main complaint with that game was using items to cast spells, like ingredients for cooking. Some of these items required an awful amount of grinding as well for a one time use.

I agree that the 4th Star Ocean game is an awesome and beautiful game!

I loved Legendia too. My favorite is still symphonia though

I actually *really* like the Zestiria combat. It's other elements that compare poorly against other Tales games for me. The story constantly rehashes the same simple themes without much plot development, the towns feel hollow with no real NPC characters and no buildings to enter, and the dungeons barely have enough design to count as dungeons. Berseria very clearly recognized these issues and went at least some ways in righting them, although I still prefer Zestiria's combat.

Finally someone else who likes both Tales of Legendia and Zestiria ❤️👍

im a simple guy. i see tales of zestiria, i click.

Square Enix created FF XII for me, but generously allowed others to discover its unparalleled beauty.

I like most of the games on the list, but I have no comment on like about 3 of them since I haven't played them. I will say with TOS 2 the main thing that I didn't really like was that the characters from the first game were locked at whatever level they were at.

i recently replayed "tales of legendia" cause i remembered having fun with it when i was a teen but that was all, it was just a fun game back then, and now... my goodness what an amazing games it is to me is tied with tales of eternia (or tales of destiny 2 as most people know it) for the tittle of best "tales of..." game

Stella Deus is AMAZING!

Wow Final Fantasy 12 is my second favorite game in the whole franchise lol

Ah the opening music takes me back to the zany antics going on in Treno between the cheractors. And trying to outbid the people at the auction. SO the last hope is good and i liked it but yeah the difficulty spikes were bad. Tales of Zestiria wasn't the best of the tales but i liked it.

I liked tales of legendia but I put I down in the second half. I felt like they checked out at some point but what made that clear is the voice acting stopped after what seemed to me to be the end of the game. Also they just changed the enemy color pallets and made them stronger. You also end up revisiting nearly every location. I don't hate it though and I just considered the second half to be post game so from that perspective I like it.

From this video I played Tales of Zestiria, Final Fantasy XII, Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Shadow Hearts: From the New World, Suikoden 4 and Fire Emblem Fates (just Birthright, yet). Stangely, I also didn't hate them. Final Fantasy XII and Star Ocean are even one of my favourite games. I guess Tales of Zestiria was hated for the Alisha controversy, and for the sometimes very annoying camera in battles. It's still a very good game. I'm interested in playing Tales of Legendia. Too bad it wasn't released in europe.

My only complaint about Zesteria was the Equipment system that is all.

Watched your video just now. I only had one play through with it. Tales of Legendia it was good, great characters but there's something about it that didn't feel right. I don't know, the slow victory poses maybe? But I don't think it deserve such hate.

I also loved tales of symphonia 2 on the wii i even took the time to 100% it i still have the original copy

i loved the third shadow hearts. finished it twice.

Tales of Legendia was the first tales game I ever played. I don't remember a single thing about it but I know I loved the game.

Stella Deus was the game that made me realize that I suck at Tactical RPGs. I picked the game up at a garage sale a couple years ago. The reason I picked it up was because it was made by Atlus and the artwork is done Shigenori Soejima (he did the artwork for the Persona game 3 and onward, and I loved the Persona series.) I gave up on the game because I couldn't beat the first boss. But the worst part was that the game gave me pink eye. Must have from the place I bought it from. Luckily, I bought for a dollar.

I think a lot of these games are less that people "hate" them but that they didn't live up to expectations. They were followups to genre classics that just didn't do well such as Shadow Hearts FTNW and Legendia. Games that are great in their own right, but I think people played them and were like "what? this is the next in the series?" and were taken aback. I think if people went back and played them again they'd enjoy them. As for Legendia, I have some issues with it but think it's a good game overall. I wish there were more towns, but I understand that to accomplish what they wanted to do that wouldn't play with the story well.