"Top Rarest Items" you'll never use because Materias. The only part they can be really useful at are in the Wutai sidequest when Yuffie snatches all your Materia.
I'd add Stardust (edit: hard to loot but you can buy it in Battle Square...), Light Curtain and Lunar Curtain. ^_^ Also, here are _some_ tiny corrections and additional explanations. ;) *War Gong* from Grand Horn You have 14% chance to loot it from Grand Horn. Low but still better than 6%. :) The probability in the data say 8, but at this point that's not a percentage. It's a value out of 64. The probabilities and some other data such as element affinities on Wikia are incorrect, maybe due to wrong formulas / rounds or not enough tests. Gamefaqs explains much accurately FF7 deep mechanics and I get the same values when I check in the files with enemies or attacks editors. For each (non stolen non morphed) killed enemy, the game chooses an integer between 0 and 63 inclusive, then checks if this is less or equal to the item chance. If it's true, you win this item. Else, the game does the same for the next item of this enemy, if there is another. Grand Horn has 8/63 chance to drop a War Gong, then 8/63 to drop a Hi-Potion. You add 1 to have that value between 1 and 64 inclusive, then you can convert in %. War Gong: 9/64 ~14% Not War Gong: 1 - 9/64 = 55/64 ~86% and Hi-Potion: 55/64 × 9/64 = 495/4096 ~12% and not Hi-Potion: 55/64 * (1 - 9/64) = 55/64 × 55/64 = 3025/4096 ~74%. In clear, a Grand Horn drops a War Gong with 14% chance or a Hi-Potion with 12% chance or nothing with 74% chance. The same method is used for base chance of stealing, but the real steal chance depends on the level of the ally and of the enemy and if the ally wears the Sneak Glove or not. *War Gong* from Behemoth You can steal a War Gong from a Behemoth too, and not only during the sector 8 raid. :D He is at the Battle Square, in the special battle, so you need to have Ultima Weapon, W-Summon and to learn Omnislash. The best level to steal the War Gong from Behemoth is 54, with 25% chance per try. Above, you'll have more chance to steal its Phoenix Down so less chance to steal its War Gong, like with a Bagrisk. At level 99, you have 95.3% chance for the Phoenix Down and 4.5% for the War Gong. You can try to get the Level - 10 and Level - 5 handicaps though, since you're in the arena. xD Note that you must NOT use the Sneak Glove, as you'd have 100% chance to steal the Phoenix Down so 0% to steal the War Gong, even if you were level 1! In your video, you stole the War Gong at the 2nd attempt, but I'd say that's a coincidence. :o I'm pretty sure the stealable items of an enemy are checked all at once , and not one per attempt, with the next one on the next attempt. But that's interesting. Can you confirm? If you're right, doesn't that mean you just have to fail 1 or 2 thefts then to steal that same enemy with another ally wearing the Sneak Glove in order to have 100% chance to steal? This way, under level 25, the Vagyrisk Claw would have a 28%+ rate instead of 4.23% at level 11! :D The War Gong can target the allies too. In this case, it has 100% chance to inflict Berserk instead of its regular 79% chances. *8-inch* Looting from Cromwell = 5%. I don't write down the calculation for each item, it's the same method as above. There is another Attack Squad fight when Yuffie steals your Materias. You may want to steal them anyway for the challenge. :D She always takes your 48 best Materias. There's a defined order, this isn't about AP except for ex-æquo. Hopefully and paradoxically, Steal is one of her least favorite. So if you have 48 Materias excluding your Fire, Ice, Lightning, Restore, Heal and 1 Steal, you keep 1 Steal when she leaves. *Holy Torch* Looting from Unknown3 = 5%. However, Stilva and Evilhead are in the Battle Square after you got the Highwind. ;) Holy Torch is pretty similar to DeSpell, but they're not exactly the same for some reason... Death Force and Resist are canceled by DeSpell but not Holy Torch. Mini is canceled by Holy Torch but not DeSpell. *Mirror* Looting from Mirage = 14%. The stairs are indeed the best spot to encounter Mirages. For the ones who like Pre-emptive, avoid using a mastered one, as it reduces your chance to be attacked from both sides: there are two possible enemies formations with Mirages and one of them is the ambush one. *Graviball* Looting from Deenglow = 14%. Remember you can't loot an item from an enemy you stole. *Ghost Hand* Looting from Ghost = 5%. *Dragon Fang* The attack is pretty the same as Schizos' final attack except your own Dragon Fang can't miss and it ignores MBarr. :D *Vagyrisk Claw* from Bagrisk Individually, the 1st Soft has 33/64 ~52% chance, the 2nd Soft has the same, and the Vagyrisk Claw has 9/64 ~14%. With the "item 1 else item 2 else item 3 else nothing" order I mentioned above, you have a base chance of 1st Soft = 33/64 ~52% not the 1st Soft = 31/64 ~48% 2nd Soft = 31/64 × 33/64 = 1023/4096 ~25% not the 2nd Soft = 31/64 × 31/64 = 961/4096 ~23% Vagyrisk Claw = 961/4096 × 9/64 = 8649/262144 ~3% nothing = 961/4096 × 55/64 = 52855/262144 ~20% any Soft = 33/64 + 1023/4096 = 3135/4096 ~77%. But these are only the base chances and you're correct for the real chance taking into account the level of the thief and the target. Level 11 is indeed the best. :) I get 1/16384 for the Claw at level 77 but the difference must be due to the rounds. Once again, if you have the Sneak Glove, you'll have 0% to get the Vagyrisk Claw, whichever is your level. You can still count on the level handicaps as the Bagrisks are in the Battle Square before CD 2. xD *Vagyrisk Claw* from CMD Grand Horn If you lose the mini-game, you fight one of the three CMD Grand Horn, who are level 19, 25 and 37. Only the level 19 one gives you a Vagyrisk Claw. The game will chose this one if at least one of these conditions is true. - Cloud is alone - the average level of your characters excluding Aeris < 19 - this average is between 19 and 24 inclusive and you killed a certain amount of enemies in this fight before losing it (ie you let only the Commander climb the Fort, to be sure you killed enough enemies, if you REALLY want plenty of Vagyrisk Claws). A Fort Condor battle is available at several moments of the game. - before Junon - between fighting Bottomswell and getting Shiva (Cloud is alone!) - between getting the whistle and using it (Cloud is still alone!) - between getting the buggy and visiting the Cosmo Canyon - and so on... There are 15 battles in total. Knowing this, it's easy to get several Vagyrisk Claws. *Kiss of Death* Looting from Death Dealer = 14%. Inflicts Death on all with 67% chance per target. That's not as efficient as Odin and Remove but much better than Death + All. *Earth Mallet* Looting from Gigas = 14%. The attack is pretty the same as Quake3 but it can't miss (except on targets resisting to Earth) and it ignores MBarr, Reflect and split damage. The split is the reduction to 2/3 of the damage and the chance to inflict statuses when you give the All effect to an action. Other items to mention *Stardust* (like Comet2, can't miss, ignores MBarr) You can loot one from Behemoth with 14% chance, during the Midgar sector 8 raid. Else you have to loot it from Serpent in the Gelnika, with *4%* chance, which is the worst drop rate of the game! *Light Curtain* (Barr on all) You can morph Corvette in Junon tunnels under the ocean, or morph Sword Dance during the Midgar raid if you come back to the HQ. Garuda in Da-Chao and Unknown in the Gelnika drop it with 10% and 5% chance. *Lunar Curtain* (MBarr on all) Foulander in Da-Chao and Unknown2 in the Gelnika drop it with 14% and 5% chance. Thanks for the video. Long live to FF7.
The most rare item for me in 7 was the Behemoth Horn at the top or near the top of the stairs in the return to Midgar/Shinra raid. I had never heard or seen it in any guides before so not long ago when I first saw someone bring it up I was like, "Whaaaat!" Maybe there's some even MORE rare unfound items out there in the Game still!
Not only have I gotten the Vagyrisk Claw the hard way, I've done it up to 3 times (twice after noticing I missed stuff and needed to backtrack). The price you pay for wanting to win every Fort Condor minigame. I had a nearly perfect save file for some years but in June/July 2016 I finally went on ahead and did the perfect playthrough. Obsessing over every minute detail, not missing so much as a dialog box, I even got 3 Mythrils from the sleeping man in the cave (One to teach Great Gospel, one to keep the Great Gospel item in the inventory and one to keep the Mythril key item). It only took me 6 weeks, so if you're reading this and you care about 100 percenting FF7, you can do it!
You say there's only a 3% chance that the Cromwell will drop the 8-inch Cannon. Well every time I fought a Cromwell and I mean every time it has dropped an 8-inch can each one of them
Same here! I got it basically every time...Especially when you destroy the entire machine with one attack/2x slash instead of singularly destroying the pieces to it.
This is mind blowing. when i thought i found everything and done everything I could in this game, I am looking at all these videos on thing's i never heard about.
Might I suggest checking out "4-8 Productions" on RU-vid, as well as "death_unites_us" on Twitch, (They are the same person), he's got a few records set in the game, has a few videos on the best Materia combinations possible in the game, as well as a Glitches & Oddities video that is rather lengthy. But he also has a video on the cool little side quest in Junon, that lets you get the Shinra red Submarine for the rest of the game!
Jesus, I still have nightmares how hard it is to get earth mallet and mirror. But most of these are not as hard as getting all items and weapons in FF 4. FF 4 grinding is on another level, I did it once and not doing it again.
Vagyrisk Claw is supposed to be called Basilisk Claw, FF7's translation was really, really bad with picking up on these cultural/religious references. Other examples include Midgarsomr becoming Midgar Zolom and Sefer Sephiroth becoming Safer Sephiroth.
I've played this over 150 hours as a kid. Pretty sure i got them all except Nr.1 but i might be wrong since i never used throwable attack items. I had totally forgotten about those nr.3 enemies though but they look familiar when i see their move-sets. So cool when stuff from your childhood pops up from some old memory bank in your brain :D
1/35 is the scale of the figurine, not a quantity you need. You can get two of them in Junon, and any number as a consolation reward from the Speed Square. But this item has no utility. Probably a canceled "quest" due to a lack of time.
Justin Lenhart actually at this point, you should be making use of steal cause in the same train graveyard, those small flying enemies that cast ice on you... You can still ether' from. I get 99 of em everytime I come here & grind like crazy
Oh yes. Those Ethers sell at 750gil a pop, one of the most valuable items you can get at this stage. Though I usually get bored after farming about twenty! It's also a good place to hunt for Eligor, who has a new staff for Aeristhsthsthsth.
This is my favorite video of yours man. Would love additional parts for other rare items. Kinda makes me wanna try a item only playthrough... Wonder how possible that'd be
This is fascinating but it's absolute madness, why make items that are so rare and so hard to get? Some of them such as the kiss of death come so late in the game that they are practically useless.
The Stilvas are susceptible to Level 4 Suicide which makes very easy to morph into the item. You also never mention in this video that stealing from an enemy prevents them from dropping items. Also, Gigas? More like Big Shoes.
i always had tons and tons of ghost hands and graviballs because id farm the train graveyard for the striking staff before moving on, since it let aerith actually help in some fights without using magic. graviballs were also a big part of my grand strategy for getting the beta enemy skill immediately after getting to midgar zolom. (you need to do a tiny bit of level grinding, put your entire party in the back row, inflict sadness on all of them so they take even less damage, equip elemental + fire in someone's armor to reduce the damage even further, then pelt zolom with graviballs and the items that inflict poison, when his hp gets low, he will cast beta, then take a tick of poison and die. Then you have basically fire3 + all to absolutely trounce enemies for the first third of the game!)
may as well tell you guys the secret training ground to max the materia it's off the coast of mideel a tiny spec of land that counts as madeel to train early just keep pausing and checking the area name should be grinding 5 of those bug dudes lots of ap this is available after disc to but before disc 3 u can train early before reaching. madeel its. second only to the final dungeon area.
I'm pretty sure "Vagyrisk Claw" is supposed to be "Basilisk Claw" because the effect is Petrification, which Basilisks often cause in Final Fantasy games.
Just started my sixth playthrough of this game. Getting nostalgia vibes from 1997 as a 13 year old still. Such a magical game. Remember my first playthrough, the in-game clock started over and eventually stopped counting after reaching the maximum amount of hours again in red numbers.
I doubt anyone cares, but I think the music really distracts from the content here. It's a bit hard to hear you over the repetitive woo sounds Thanks for making this, I know it's tough to make vids and tougher to please everyone
My old ps1 mem card got corrupted, so I lost my perfect save file. I'm currently doing another perfect save run and just like the first time, I'll be using the w-item glitch heavily lol.
you forgot RED ROSE after you kill the ultimate weapons in the sand and there is another item you get after killing the ultimate weapons under water which you trade for a item that if you tried to reach in the beging of the game but it said it was to high but the old man you talk to gets it for you!
Lmfao yea I did this type run on the original ff7. Soending days on end outside a particular fort farming 99 of a particular item that drops from only one enemy, in that one spot, that you only have a chance to farm once, at a particular time in the playthrough. Those that know, will get that oh yea smile when that memory hits them. ✌️
Preach, a FFXIV streamer I'm fond of who did an extremely casual first time FF7 playthrough, managed to steal a Vagyrisk Claw and have it stolen in the Corel Prison without ever knowing it was a rare item. I thought back to this vid and had a laugh.
@@Jacindalau25it essentially is dispel (spelled "DeSpell" in the english version of the game) but as an item. You use it to remove positive status effects like protect or haste from a target
Kinda funny. I used to get all of these items. Didn't know they were rare. Most sat in my items list ignored because if use them once, realize they were crap and never use them again. I hope that when ff7 remake is totally complete these items will be as rare but powerful.
You forgot stardust. Its like comet2. Actually all these items are pretty useless because the spell equivalent to these items do more damage and you can use them over and over. Example: You wouldnt have to farm stardusts because comet materia is far easier and it does more damage depending on how mastered the materia is and if you have any support (i.e quadra magic) or command materia equipped(i.e mime). Really you should only get these items if you want 100% perfect game.
I´m an old fart who killed Sephiroth back in ´97. I´ve got the urge to kill him again and I wonder what console is this particular game played on? This is not the PS1 graphic, I´ll tell you that!
Can't you just keep playing the submarine game at gold saucer to get more dragon fangs? Or did you make a mistake and meant to tell us you can get it from the story submarine battle on one of the big materia missions. That makes sense since the submarine battle happens only once in the game. But if you really meant the submarine gold saucer game then just keep playing and stock up on the dragon fangs
Hey not sure if you've done this video, but how about the top 10 most difficult materia to obtain in this game. Magic Counter, Sneak Attack, those 2 are top contenders. Or another top 10: the most difficult Enemy Skills to obtain.
OmegaBlackHeart I was thinking about doing that. But I think I might just combine them all into one video. Rarest/hard to get things that I haven't mentioned already
"Added Cut" materia that is found in the snow after the snowboarding game would have to be number one. I didn't even know it existed until I watched a playthrough, and it is still very missable even if you know about it.
None of these are a problem if you're willing to fight the same enemies absurd number of times..just to see what Steal, Morph and end battle drops each enemy gives. Vagyrisk claw is so easily overlooked. Hardly anyone I know who played the game would actually go back and forth to fort condor. Anyway, nice list!
My greatest achievement for me was able to master the materia to turn in for master. Arming my team with three sets of the master materia which let you cast all the magic, support and summons from a single materia.
Vagyrisk claw. What the hell bro the percentage of getting this item you can tell that squaresoft was really really thinking out these items and putting them in particular places for a reason they thought all of this out this is another reason why this is one of the greatest games of all time. It's incredible the detail they put into everything and now we got the remix coming out and credible can't wait can't wait
On my next to last game I got 99 Minerva, Tough Rings, and Ziedrichs, using the W-Item glitch/and steal. This last time I forgot to sell off the few items of them I had in my inventory and blew it this time.
I have two mastered Enemy Skill materia and I've gotten all these items--I didn't have the bestiary section of my strategy guide at the time because it's so old and worn out, and I just wanted to see if there were monsters that had duplicates of a skill (ie, Chimera/Jenova LIFE = Aqualung). So, yeah, I didn't think any of these items were "rare" at all...except the Dragon Fang. Thanks for the heads up on that one btw
It is too bad that I didn't get either the "Earth Mallet" or "Vagyrisk Claw" (Cause I play a very old Save and lost that chance decades ago), but oh well...I have plenty of Master Materias and will not sacrifice them for lame 1 use items (Yes, I have W-Item and know how to duplicate items) by starting a completely fresh save. Sooooooooooo not worth it =).
how about a top ten rarest encounters? I have a friggin tattoo of clouds ragnarok on my arm and I didn't know that you can fight a cactaur in the desert under the gold saucer with the buggy. I thought it was all sand worms 🐛 but theres a small chance for that little cactus 🌵 to pop up! No morphing for tetras tho
Your video popped up on my feed out of nowhere. I haven't played ff7 in about 3 maybe 4 years. I beat it 4 time. I'm going to start up a new file in play the game again keep up the good work and hang in there. Thank you
How prevalent is the knowledge of unlimited tetra elemental armbands? I remember finding them in the days before the internet, despite what the Bradygames strategy guide said about them.....
i might be wrong most likely but some of those items you can acquire by equiping the morph materia and killing them enemies instead of droping them with a % you get it throug comand.. at least thats is how i used to farm some of those items
Ether is the item of highest C/P level in beginning term. Without MP, hardly keep HP and attack multiple targets. 1500 Gil for one ether is quite so cheap!
