Fun fact: Art schools grading system can be summarized like this: It the teacher doesn’t like it they fail you. That’s what happened to Andre with his song. His teacher didn’t like something about it so he failed him.
in the video they were saying that they only kept her around to show how untalented she is when she's actually one of the funniest characters and has a lot of funny moments that had nothing to do with her singing. But gotta admit she is pretty annoying.
You aint kidding i got an C on a Drawing of Spiderman: Shattered Dimensions in 10th grade(i could be misremembering the grade) i asked him why and he told me nothing. That bloody sucked it brought me down a bit like as if i wasnt already down that year after getting told i couldnt play guitar by my guitar teacher
Maybe she looked at the record tori's parents keep at their house. That's probably why jade invades toris room when she visit or even came to her house uninvited
@@celineshaw3171 technically the vandalising the car would be the woods fault. A reality tv show that ask jade and tori to smash a car so that one was sort of on them
@@utropmonroe7331 They’re probably just throwing that out there. I liked Victorious but the show not making any sense is definitely not the reason why it’s great lol, that would be sad
How they classify Trina as untalented when she can actually rap and she's good in martial arts. The fact that Trini and Tori's parents are hardly home How Trini and Tori's parents dislike Trini but adore Tori The fact that Beck never assures Jade that he loves her or compliments her that much which makes her feel insecure. How no one talks about Cat's abusive family How Cat is actually really smart since she gets all A's but they make her dumb How Tori is always standing on a table or somewhere high up when she sings How you never see the kids at the back talk in class How the kids aren't seen in any subject that is needed like math or English even if it's an art school How Tori decided to host a prom when she knew Jade had a play she wanted to do and how everyone included Beck went along with the idea The fact that Tori somehow always beat out Jade and Cat when it comes to singing even though both Jade and Cat have the better voice
One that’s confusing to me is why do Beck’s parents just randomly let their sixteen year old son sleep in an RV in the driveway? Given that, their house seems to be pretty far away from anything resembling civilization, that it’s in Los Angeles, and that his parents rarely if ever actually check on him, so literally anything could have happened to him at anytime. So what the chizz?
Andrew Jones I think they care about him but they’re like the other parents on the show and we rarely see them but when I saw this video this just occurred to me as something kinda weird.
Abidjanaise Good Point, although I think that he said the disagreement or whatever was about him not wanting to follow their rules, which no teenager wants to follow their parents rules so the fact that this was his solution always seemed weird to me even if I love the show and the RV was definitely a convenient hangout for the teens.
@@GoddessGirl2121 Where's the evidence that they care about him? They rarely spend time together in the RV, with the exception of one ep which is largely set inside it.
Andrew Jones I just realized I misread your question so my actual response is that while there’s no actual onscreen evidence that they care about him, given how well adjusted Beck seemed it’s highly likely that he actually does spend time with them and that they have a solid and loving relationship. However this is just an assumption based on context clues and my interpretation of things, since like every character on the show other than Tori and Andre we don’t actually see him spend time with his parents and the only time on screen that we see or hear them is in “Jade Dumps Beck” in Season One, we hear his mom when Tori goes to talk to Beck at Jade’s insistence and we hear his dad yelling and see his badly injured form after Tori and Jade let the Rotwieller into the trailer and we can tell by Beck’s actions in the moment that he cares about his dad. So based on that and just general interpretation I believe that they love eachother.
Trina was untouchable. No one addressed her behavior. Her parents were bad too. Always going on trips to get away from her or making Tori take care of her.
@@andrewjones575 I remember watching an ep (don’t know which one) where the mum was talking to tori ans said that she was going out with your dads friends tonight
the song 365 days , although performed by both andre and tori, if you listen to the song that they released on the official album it’s only andre singing. BUT ALSO, 365 days isnt released on spotify or apple music so they ended up still doing andre (leon thomas lll) dirty :/
When I saw the title "things in victorious that didn't make sense" I just thought abt how in the ping pong scam Jade's dress magically fits Tori perfectly even tho they have pretty different bodies
@jAde wEst ur right but it just seems weird this isn't the sisterhood of the traveling pants. Plus it would've been cooler if it was Jade singing in her dress. I dunno abt u but I was really hoping for an André n Jade duet
@Abidjanaise The Drake and Josh events actually happened and Hollywood decided to do a TV show based off that. Example, Stab movies in Scream or Seed Of Chucky.
Exactly that’s what I don’t understand about some of the shows on nick they have to have a parody for everything you don’t see Disney doing that 💁🏻♀️😂😂
Ok but can we talk about how Victorious and Icarly had a whole crossover, but when Sam and Cat came out and there were mini crossovers the characters acted like they had no idea who each other were. Like that still confuses me.
Sam and Cat never even talked to each other. They didn't even get near each other. And time works different in the Dan Schneider universe. It could've been years after the party and before they met. How are they supposed to remember each other?
Well tbh they never really met, what I remember from iparty was that jade was mostly in the pool area for the party the only person icarly and her friends really might have known was tori.
The only time all of the cast from both shows was together in that episode was during the last scene where they sang Leave it All to Shine. That part is not canon, I don't think
that’s exactly what I said the other day, because she took a paper test and got 100 but it’s supposed to be a vocal class and the practice that Robbie was doing with Tori had nothing to do with the actual test she was taking
@@missserenity1090 exactly! Her strengths were probably in martial arts (as we see in the episode where she auditioned for Helen), or even in comedy like her one woman show. But nobody helped her out when she could’ve had more success! It would’ve been nice to see one of main characters that weren’t just singers (I know beck wasn’t but even just something outside of the usual singing or acting arts)- and I mean usual as in for victorious
Fear factor was for adults tho. Even when they had kid based episodes they toned down danger and gross stuff because they cant risk killing kids on tv. Same would be said fot Brain Squeezers if it actually existed. They wouldnt be allowed to even make the show if it was actually as deadly as they portrayed it in the show if kids/teens were the main target contestants.
Well maybe she hadn't heard that term before, considering most of her stuff in the school, when she's called to act, they don't normally go this is your understudy
@@wwerules000 but she had done plays before, and it’s a common term. How does she go to a art school and hardly know anything, even if she is new (even tho she had been there for awhile by that point in the show)
@@kilometers671 because she hadn't done art or theater before going there and like I said in the improve she wasn't given a understudy, in the house one nope and the bird scene one she had to learn it, so givf me a scene where she learns what a understudy is
It wouldn’t be hard to make it happen without the schools permission. Given how odd a lot of their relationships with their parents are, it would probably be easy even with the schools permission as long as it was an assignment for the class.
The school where it was filmed is real (burbank high) but im not sure if it’s a arts school Just checked, not sure it’s a arts school but the have a place for performing and visual arts People like Dove Cameron, tim burton and more studied there
there is a really nice magnet art highschool in my area and literally everyone tries to get it in (i got rejected lmao). it is literally the same as hollywood arts.
Helen wasn’t a plot hole. The theory is that drake and josh was a reality show. After the show ended, Helen went to Hollywood Arts and Crazy Steve kidnapped Megan
@@lexkanyima2195 yea there’s a theory that after drake and josh ended, crazy Steve kidnapped meghan and they went to Seattle and he brainwashed her into thinking she was Carly (because jerry trainor and Miranda consgrove were both in drake and josh and icarly). The reason they said drake and josh was a reality show was because they talked to the camera in the beginning of each episode and instead of taking it as breaking the fourth wall it’s them talking to cameramen and producers like they do on reality tv shows. There’s also an episode in icarly called ibloop where drake crashes the icarly set and says “Meghan? Where’s josh mom and dad?” Further fueling that she was actually kidnapped and since Carly was brainwashed that’s why she didn’t recognize him and in another episode drake and josh shows up on her tv and Carly goes “seen it before” kinda hinting she remembers being there when it happened cause she is meghan but it’s just a play on words on how she acted on that show. It’s a fun theory
@@ajamama yes and in San an cat where the crazy heads like nevol and the one crazy fan from icarly who tried to hurt them crazy Steve was in the nut house muzzled up
I was always thought the Diddly Bops episode was such an exaggeration. A lot of celebrities have appeared on kids shows (Sesame Street and the Muppets) and it does not destroy anyways careers and the performance wasn't even that embarrassing and the song was pretty good lol I just don't think a record company would not sign someone just because they performed at a birthday party.
Well those celebrities went on the kids shows after they found their fame. Andre was doing it backwards so it’s kind of justified. Since he found his fame with the diddly bops, he would forever be known as the diddly bops guy.
i actually agree with this. they act like starring in a little kids performance is gonna embarrass them and ruin their careers but in real life that’s actually going to help them
1. Beck and Jade's entire relationship, jade is extremely possessive and rude as hell to beck & beck was in love with Tori the entire time (homie was real eager to kiss her in the pilot lol)
Let's be real, all these shows give out unfair grades for stupid reasons. Examples Phoebe Thunderman's teacher never giving As Carly Shay's teacher giving her a B for using three hole punch paper
And mrs hayfer gives drake an f on his possibly great paper just because he hates it. Drake: and F? What's wrong with it? Hayfer : idk just write another one
@@OTFPetey and also it's against school rules to hack and change grades. Even though the teacher was wrong, Carly or Sam could've reported to Franklin of how unfair carlys teacher is. Failing students bc he doesn't like hole punches. Even though the teachers wrong, it's still wrong for Sam to change carly's grade. It'll just stupe her to that level
10:56 Trina was a pretty good actress (which we saw in Stage Fighting). Based on the character’s logic, you are untalented if you can only act. So they’re basically saying that Beck is also untalented too since he doesn’t sing or anything
@@silentassasin-q8l he did but he didn’t do it often. My point is, based on the shows standards, you are only talented if you can sing, dance, or do technical stuff. But Trina actually can act, which Beck can do as well, they both aren’t singers
Remember the episode Trina got injured, and in the end it was Rex who was the culprit? Either Robbie goes into psychosis and commits these heinous acts as "Rex", or Rex is a lot more autonomous than we realize
I'm confused in season 4 ep 2 Wanko's warehouse when cat set the alarms on beck mentioned that there are security cameras in the parking lot but when they run to Andre's car with buckets over there heads the security cameras would have captured Andre's license plate number because of that they can track them down and arrest all of them
That bit about Jade being untouchable always puzzled me. Everyone, including Beck, let her get away with her misdeeds with out a care in the world. Except for the ONE TIME in the episode _"Tori Gets Stuck"_ where Jade, not wanting to be her understudy, sabotages Tori's health so she can't perform the lead as Steamboat Suzy. Rather than letting Jade take Tori's place, Sikowitz takes the lead. So far that was the only time Jade was ever "punished".
If anyone remembers, Trina actually sings a line in “shut up and dance” in the April fools episode and sounds good. I don’t understand why they felt the need to drag that old gag through out the show, it got old by season three. I really wish we got to hear some proper singing from Trina.
@@matthewmercado9842 I’m aware of that. I’m just saying that Trina went to an arts school, not learning how to sing after so many years is ridiculous and the joke that she’s a bad singer got boring after a while.
How about an explanation that doesn’t involve shipping in any way. Jade: I’d rather take a chainsaw to the unmentionables than date her. Tori: For once, I agree with her.
Some of these makes sense 8. Nozu does have a phone but Mrs Lee hates tori for leaving her daughter dangling on the ceiling so this is a cruel albeit unfair punishment to tori. If school would wonder where tori and robbie is they could've charged Mrs Lee for holding hostage for stupid revenge and shut down nozu for good. 6. Theres a good reason Andre gets a D. Bc lyrics is one thing and any grade can be given to the lyrics, pass or fail. But in the end its the performance and tunes that makes the lyrics worthy of an A 10. Rex is being rex so he could've just said that prom comment to cat as to make fun of her. 4. It makes sense that they could afford all those ice cream bc toris parents are rich. Just look at her house. Even upper middle class can't afford it
@@thetackydramatic but during school hour? If tori ask if she can come back later mrs lee still would say no. Trust me mrs lee is totally being an unfair bitch. I'm sure part of the reason she wouldn't let tori go back to school and comeback later to pay, is bc it's punishment for what happened to daisy. you think about it it's sort of mrs lees fault that her daughter was left dangling on the ceiling. If she hadn't changed jades script to daisy's horrible singing, then tori no jade wouldn't have come up with an elaborate scheme to leave daisy hanging.
@@PrincessEuphoria trust me if I forgot to bring money to pay for the food and I had to be back at school, the owner would still let me go back to school and allow me to pay back later. Mrs lee ain't like that. She don't care if it's during school hours. She wants tori to work like slaves. Not just bc she owes her money but bc she left daisy dangling in the ceiling. Well if mrs lee didn't held tori hostage she at least holding Robbie hostage. Robbie didn't do anything to upset mrs lee. She only hates him bc he's friends with tori. She wouldn't even let one of them leave to get the money. So if that's not holding hostage idk what the hell it is
How Sikowitz kept his job is easily the biggest plot convenience. That man crossed every boundary in existence. Most notably inviting teenagers to stay the night at his house as an assignment. 😶🙃😐
The Ke$ha episode actually makes sense, I mean...they live in Los Angeles, should be obvious They probably saved up money from chores, jobs, even allowances, so this pretty much makes sense Also, personally one of the best episodes of the series 😄
My approach... The Drake and Josh events actually happened and Hollywood decided to do a TV show based off that. Example, Stab movies in Scream or Seed Of Chucky. So, Yvette Nicole Brown can meet Helen.
I have a theory that Drake & Josh was a TV show that finished and since it's an art school Helen went there for a job and got turned into a principal because of her qualifications
My approach... The Drake and Josh events actually happened and Hollywood decided to do a TV show based off that. Example, Stab movies in Scream or Seed Of Chucky. So, Josh Beck can meet Josh Nichols.
To me the one about the sleepover makes sense because all of the parents we see or hear about in victorious are awful Like Tori’s mom and dad are lazy and her mom makes wonderful stuff for herself but not tori and Trina Cats parents leave her for 2 years while they go and take care of her crazy brother Jades dad just seems so mean Becks parents don’t let beck sleep inside their house while the cricket in his rv is there And Robbie’s parents let him take rex around everyone not caring if that will make him look weird and he has a crazy
I totally agree and here's why in my opinion 1. David vega is a cop and would've report sikowitz for this assignment whether he's awesome or not. However given that A. They r neglectful no matter how they love them and B. It's their anniversary they'll care less even if tori and trina was shipped to another country and still be happy about it as long as they are alone 2. Beck doesn't technically live with his parents anymore since their house their rules is enuff to kick me out 3. Grandma Harris is insane and she probably didn't notice Andre left or Andre just want a grandma free saturday 4. Jades parents hates her so they'll probably agree to even sending her to another continent 5. We not sure about robbie but cats parents focused on frankini so they probably care less about cats whereabouts So these makes sense. However I love sikowitz to be my teacher and in my opinion he dress that way as part of an acting that in acting u can be whoever u want
here’s my list of weird stuff in the show -Beck living alone in an RV without parents even tho he’s 16-17 -Tori and Jade being able to wear the same dress -Why Beck agreed to kiss Tori even tho he had Jade -Why Trina is portrayed as untalented when she can do karate and comedy -Why everybody is okay with Cat talking about her abusive brother locking her in closets, having feet in the trunk of his car, etc but they never check in on her or do anything to make sure she’s okay -Why Robbies friends are always mean to him - Why Tori got the happy ending in the prom episode when she was wrong -Why did parents allow the teens to go to Sikowits house overnight when it’s clear he has problems - Why Tori asks why Jade hates her when she kissed beck in front of Jade and canceled her play -Did Tori’s mom and her dads co-worker Gary have an affair and why did they make that as a joke -Why Andre is in the care of his grandmother when she has mental issues? Doesn’t he have other family? -Why Tori’s mother didn’t make food for her daughters and ate in front of them when they were obviously hungry -Why Tori doesn’t try her drivers test again -Why the school didn’t see Cat moving in a small room when there’s cameras -Why doesn’t Sikowits sue his neighbour or move to a new house around that area -Why they allowed Sikowits to make fun of Tori by being dragged on the ground mocking her -Why Trina got her license when she shaves in the car and doesn’t pay attention to the road
Maybe the Hellen timeline thing was a product from Drew and Jerry that one episode that with Drake and Josh's doppelgangers and they put in some wormholes or something
My approach... The Drake and Josh events actually happened and Hollywood decided to do a TV show based off that. Example, Stab movies in Scream or Seed Of Chucky. So, Drake Bell can meet Drake Parker.
The sleepover thing is the best episode the show has ever had. And it can also be a great tip for drama teachers to teach their students about method acting.
I always wondered WHY the others, especially Tori, would put up with Jade's surly attitude, other than her being Beck's girlfriend and Cat's best friend. Tori should really take the hint that Jade doesn't like her! 🙄
Jade's a very good performer as a singer, actress etc., as well as a classmate of theirs, in addition to being their friend Beck's gf. Cat's best friend is Robbie; I don't know why you say it's Jade.
@jAde wEst Jade describes Cat as "basically a pet". Jade hangs around with them because she's possessive of Beck. They suffer Jade because they all like Beck.
They didn’t do all of the things that make no sense. In stage fighting tori gets two weeks of detention but in breakfast bunch tori says that’s she’s never had detention before.
one thing that just annoyed me was how in the episode 'wi-fi in the sky', tori didnt have head phones. imagine how annoying that would have been for the other passngers.
probably cause Tori asked for the prome before Jade asked for the play. Also Jade could have had her play performed weeks after the prome. Just in time for Jade to get some more fake blood.
You did miss one thing. In the episode "how trina got in", sikowitz said she auditioned 4 years ago, yet shes still a student there. Also trina and tori are only a year apart so if she failed a grade she would be in the same grade as tori. In the pilot trina complains she has to work with andre a 10th grader because shes an 11th grader
#2 can easily be explained: in-universe, Drake & Josh is a reality show. And speaking of Drake & Josh, #1 can be explained too: Tori & Trina mirror Drake & Josh (respectively). Much like Drake, Tori is musically talented and popular. And much like Josh, Trina is an awkward and goofy social outcast with a lack of musical talent but with a talent of her own - whether it be martial arts in Trina's case, or science in Josh's case.
I can see why people sometimes don’t like tori or cat and jade is mean but even as a kid I found Trina super annoying the way she treats people especially her own sister? Come on! And she’s not talented she just thinks she is someone is her own fan!! Like seriously why couldn’t tori let her get kicked out?!
I never understood why people hated trina but liked Jade . They are very similar . Jade is just a goth and talented version of trina . The game show was pointless because no one got money and sinjin got the answer but a toilet dropped on his head . Poor guy 😬
@@demiopeseitan6965 Trina & Jade are very different. Trina's a deluded but harmless narcissist; Jade's angry & horrible, but isn't deluded into thinking she's wonderful. Trina thinks she's great & popular. Jade knows she's unpopular & doesn't care. Jade says she likes it that people are scared of her. Jade is much more important to the show than Trina is.
Andrew Jones they have things in common such as: -they are both very vain -they are the least popular members of the group because Jade's humiliations are causes of celebration and Jade states no one likes trina - both are the meanest characters -both are stronger that cat and tori - both have kissed beck -both can be seen as antagonists
The second one is explained in Game shakers. Drake and Josh is a tv-show in I Carly and victorious. In both Shows it is mentioned that Drake and Josh is a TV Show. In Game shakers it is revealed that I Carly is a TV Show too. So Drake and Josh is a TV Show in a TV show
You sure about that fear factor, I'm a celebrity they do stuff that can hurt them, most shows like that you sign something to say your OK with what's about to happen, also wipe out
In Star-Spangled Tori (S4E12), André and Beck show Tori a clip from The Chris Burm Show, where Chris gives Tori a chance to sing on the show. but then André and Beck say they don't trust Chris with his guests. If they don't trust what Chris does to Tori, knowing that Tori would accept the offer, then there would be no need to show the footage in the first place.
Top ten victorious characters that deserves to be a main cast 1. Sikowitz 2. Sinjin vancleef 3. Mrs Lee 4. Cats brother 5. Andres grandma 6. Mr Harris 7. Mrs Harris 8. Lane 9. Rex 10. Ha principal. No not Helen altho we wish
