Swanna design wise looks wayy better than Pelipper, but its pretty bad for competitive really wished it got Swift Swim, and got better Stats, but it got utterly forgotten by gamefreak unfortunately
@@N12015 true, have you ever fought a Toxipex with Baneful Bunker and Recover? It's a true pain in the ass. That's why I use one, slap on the Merciless ability with Pin Missile, and Venoshock, and it is a monster.
@@Hamanuna Meganium is bad but not that bad it would rank somewhere between 13 and 11 it wouldn't make the top 10 since their is way worse fully evolved grass types like Tropius, Sunflora, Jumpluff, etc.
ah yes Luvdisc, only reason to get was for Heart scales back in the day. But since Gen 7 you can just walk into a restaurant, order food and get your heart scales that way
And in Gen 8, you can just forget about having a heart scale because you can teach a Pokémon a move that they have forgotten for free of any charge Knowing this, it makes me feel old
Dewgong evolves from Seel...because the guys who write Pokemon have no idea about taxonomic relations. :)). In reality dugongs are more related to elephants than they are to seals.
Luvdisc is actually an insane early game pokemon. This is why people should do nuzlockes more. They get to learn about pokemon they have never used before
@@godknightomega I can't in good conscience willingly understand why anyone could bring themselves to use barrascuda or whatever that ugly fish is called xD same with the gen 8 fossil pokemon, they just hurt to look at 😂
@@Cap_The_Captain I like barraskewda’s look personally but if it wasn’t for it’s good stats and movepool I don’t know if I would like it as much as I do now
"Strong Pokemon. Weak Pokemon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites." -Karen, a Johto Elite Four member
I wish someone would have told me about Dewgong before I used one in Let's Go Pikachu. I think that was the first time I've seen Lance's Dragonite not get knocked out in one hit by Ice Beam.
Dewgong was way better back then. It didn't face nearly as much competition as it does now. Particularly, the abilities of Gen III were all pretty terrible, so Dewgong actually wasn't too shabby on that side, plus Ice Beam wasn't an easily available TM, so Ice coverage on Water types was much more valuable. With that being said... Lapras is still better in every single way. Sorry.
@@femkefeenstra7754 yeah Winona is a much stronger flying gym, she’s got a dragon type, grass type, steel type, water type, normal type, and of course flying type.
@@tyronechua451 it gets Defog, u-turn and a decent speed stat without being a flying type (I believe the only other water types to learn defog without being a flying type are empoleon and fini but there might be another)
Swift swim isn't a bad ability, it's just bad on all the Pokémon on this list since they are all either too slow to take advantage of it, or have absolutely no offensive stats.
Phew, I was really scared that my big boi Wailord was going to be on this list... Thanks Mystic for not putting it... I think Wailord is really cool and I would have gotten sad seeing it in this list!
@@thejuic3b0i64 Honestly, I always thought Braviary would've been a better ace for Skyla. I'm fine with Swanna being on her team, but Braviary makes more sense for a jet pilot of Unova.
@@stoic7974 lol right? mine is named Parthenon and it’s been dying a lot recently was a ton of fun to send out in early ranks though lol. I’m stuck in my tier can’t get any higher the meta becomes too stagnant and I like to do random shit lol
@@captaincurtis9829 Yep, he forgets Pyukumuku.. very bad Pokémon that doesn't even learn any attacking move.. should at least been at number 2 worst of this list
Corsola. Only thing helpful about it is its ability to breed with Feebas/Milotic to teach them Mirror Coat. Therefore you can get a Milotic with Mirror Coat because of Corsola.
Gorebyss can hold white herb to reset the debuffs, sure it might not be the bulkiest, but the usage of scald and or ice beam with shell smash is a good enough redeeming factor. Also relicanth is a good rock head head smash or double edge user since it deals huge damage especially with choice band. These two Pokémon don’t belong hear.
I loved corsola in my silver play through when I was a kid. For some reason I loved Pokémon that didn’t evolve.. miltank, tauros, heracross, far-fetched. 😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly i think what would help Swanna is maybe an extra evolution/stone evolution to enhance some of stats slightly above 500. Maybe a decently speedy mixed attacker with maybe extra HP? I do agree out of the list, it has great potential, Hopefully in the next Unova remakes, it gets an extra evo
Seeing the Kingdra cameo reminded me of a question I wanted to ask. I'm aware that if you trade Pokemon from virtual console into modern games, they're guaranteed to have it's hidden ability. If I wanted to get the newer games and try using it, would it be possible to switch to one of its normal abilities?
I know this video is a month old, but I think I just need to salvage Huntail and Gorebyss a bit. They do not deserve to be on this list, and the main reason is the move Baton Pass in addition to Shell Smash. Smash Pass combo allows any Pokemon on your team to be boosted, which honestly makes them a good support Pokemon. Sure there might be some better options, but they're solid
Game Freak must’ve said. “Let’s take a generic water type. Give it crummy stats everywhere except for speed. Allow it to learn agility. Give it an ability that increases its speed in the rain and call it a day.” It’s great in PU tier cos your opponent will be so busy laughing at it, giving you a chance to win the match. It’s below average bulk allows it to survive 2 Caterpie tackles before it needs to switch out.
I think there is a weaker water type that wasn't brought up. Pyukumuku is a defensive wall with only toxic stall and it's abilty innerds out for any real offense meaning it is sitting there as set up fodder for any Steel type that doesn't worry about the hp it's gonna lose from innards out as it has a low base hp total of 55. Luvdisc as bad as it is can mount offense without need of dynamaxing.
Simipour, I was willing to spare from my Top 10 Weakest Water list, cause at list it isn't as bad in it's pure type of Water as how Simisage is in the Grass type, with Simisear being a somewhat bad Fire type as I'm willing to admit, however not as bad as you said Simisear is. And I spared Swanna, cause I thought it wasn't as bad as a worse Water/Flying type Pokemon. And Relicanth was given some credit on my Weakest Water type list as it is in my opinion the 8th Weakest Water type Pokemon. Especially since I tried adding Gen 9 Pokemon to update my lists. I know these videos were made before Gen 9 was out, I'm just saying what I've done.
Grass is the next logical one but I cannot wait for Bug, Poison and Ice. Wondering if for Ghost or Dragon a Pokemon from the top 10 list will Also Fall as those types don't have that many Pokemon.
Poor Luvdisc I love it, it's one of my favorite Pokemon I love that it's heart shaped and I love Swanna because I love swans and I love lumineon because it looks pretty with the butterfly wings and because of the wings and the wings is the reason why I like Finneon too. Also I want to see electric type next.
"It Should have stayed at the bottom for another 100000000 years it would be better that way." I have watched this channel for about 2 years and have never been so scared of a thing he has said
I feel like it's a little cheap to use Corsola since it does have an evolution in one of its forms. Cap Pikachu can't evolve, but people don't count it as a fully evolved pokemon since there is a form of Pikachu that can evolve. Still, thanks for the work you do on these videos.
@@matthewkuscienko4616 I don't think it matters that the evolution/other form is no longer water type. You wouldn't put surskit on this list and consider it fully evolved just because its evolution loses the water typing. I'm not saying the way I see it is automatically right, just that I don't agree with the decision to consider pokemon fully evolved if a form of them evolves further.
@@ghartman56 The thing is, though, that Corsola IS fully evolved if you aren't talking about it's Galarian variant. I mean, sure, it has another form that CAN evolve, but that would not invalidate Corsola from being eligible for this list.
@@matthewkuscienko4616 That makes sense, I just don't like it haha I feel like if game freak recognized that the pokemon was in rough enough shape that a form of it got an evolution, I'd let sleeping dogs lie with the original form and not really consider it fully evolved. I'm wrong by game mechanics since regular Corsola can't hold an eviolite (I think), but it just doesn't sit well with me.
@@Martin724K Wishiwashi can only be in its school form when it's above 25% percent health and its slow af. Also both of Wishiwashi's forms untiered in competitive.
So I did a bit of homework to see if Luvdisc could utilize anything to make it somewhat useful. It had one thing going for it but it wasn't much. going into this, I knew that Luvdisc was best when it came to its speed but its defenses and offenses were not existent. therefore, I decided to find out if it had any moves that had priority or could inflict any status conditions. I was baffled to find out that Luvdisc couldn't inflict any status condition like toxic or paralysis nor did it have the move aqua jet which could be used in niche situations to get around sturdy or focus sash/band pokemon so a partner could KO it in a VGC format. It had none of these things. HOWEVER, it could be used as an attract user then use charm several times to severely reduce the opponents attack power, but that would only be useful in double battles because Luvdisc doesn't have the stats to utilize any of its attacking moves. Despite the power creep in recent generations, it was easy to get around this strategy the generation it was introduced. With the power creep, 97 base speed is not all that impressive anymore as so many pokemon can out speed it now and KO it with even the most weak attacks. The only way I can see using Luvdisc nowadays is having it hold a focus sash then use attract, and that's all it can do. AND EVEN THEN, there are so many better pokemon that can do the same thing as well find use in other ways. Honestly, the only worth this Pokemon had was that it held heart scales, but now that games allow you to remember moves on a dime, it has no reason to exist. I'd even argue that it is even worse than Unknown because even how useless it is, Unknown still works as a gimmick Pokemon. they have lore to them, and it can be fun to collect all the variations, like in Legends Arceus, but Luvdisc doesn't even have that going for it and its gimmick is left useless and irrelevant. This, in my opinion, makes Luvdisc the most pointless Pokemon to ever exist. Thanks to anyone who read this whole comment. I had more to say about this Pokemon than I thought. I really wanted to give Luvdisc a fair shot, but honestly, what I found about Luvdisc makes it way worse than Mystic made it sound.
Hehhh Luvdisk’s base attack is the same as my base defense. Compared to my kin, I have the worst base defense of any fully evolved electric type at only 30. It was originally going to be 20, but got buffed by 10 points. My base special defense is 50, but at least it maxes out at 100. My base defense just barely caps out at 85, so that’s my answer to people who ask me why I consider myself a glass canon.
Dewgong: is trash for many reasons including its typing and speed Lapras, with same bulk (minus hp), typing and even worse speed: is brilliant I smell a bit of a bias here...
The main thing that separates Lapras from Dewgong is it's gigantamax form. If it weren't for that, Lapras would just be another Pokemon with bland stats across the board (outside of having a high HP stat) that is unfortunately held back by ice being the worst defensive type in the game
@@matthewkuscienko4616 that is true, but Lapras is considered (by Mystic) to be the best water type pokemon for gens 1, 2 _and_ Fire Red _and_ HGSS, and... nah. Especially not in gen 1 with Starmie around, which can be obtained even before Lapras if you take a detour to Fuchsia before the whole Silph Co stuff pretty much the moment you obtain the flute and I think it's worth the trouble. Lapras really needed that buff, although I would have been happier if they gave it a mega. It's ridiculously underwhelming in terms of stats.
@@werisekk3 That's definitely true, I feel that one of the biggest things holding Lapras back is it's lack of having any especially good stats in anything besides HP, which honestly isn't the best stat to be specialized in having high in without good defensive stats and/or typing. But I think that the reason why Lapras was considered to be good by Mystic is that in a playthrough of those games, it's pretty convenient to easily be able to get your hands on one, and to be fair, it wasn't actually bad competitively in the first 2 generations, since that was before power creep began to start to kick in; after that happened, it had a much harder time keeping up and the flaws brought about by it's type and lack of good stats only compounded this issue
@@matthewkuscienko4616 I can maybe see it for gen 1 since its Special was 95 (the spatt and spdef split hurt it even more) and probably for gen 2 too because Johto was not rich in water pokemon with good special attack but I still think that Starmie is superior in almost every way, definitely in Kanto with a whopping one Dragon family. Especially since it's Psychic (so broken in gen 1), which is a much better utility type since dragons didn't become a real threat until Hoenn and it can still carry Ice Beam/Blizzard for coverage and does so decently well. There is no need to use it since the Physical/Special split in gen 4 that made Pokemon like Feraligatr and Gyarados viable. I could agree that Lapras is underrated but definitely not the best except for possibly gen 2. It deserved better tho.
Pyukumuku? The only thing it's good for is stalling and that's it, no direct attacks and if you wanna hit back you have to predict a psychical or special move
only thing Luvdisc has going is that its cute so at least its not both a bad looking and useless mon lol shame they don't redeem it and give it a crazy strong evolution as a reward for using it (kinda like magicarp)
I completely understand Corsola is horrible. Trust me, I trained the same one in my Pokémon Sword game, and even when giving it the best nature I could, Careful (+Sp. Def, -Atk), her physical/Special Defenses are 279/310. Now, that would be great, but HP is 280, which is not that great. All other stats are awful. The moves I have on her are Recover, Stealth Rock, Power Gem, and Scald. But with that 174 Special Attack, she sucks! I know the pain. Now do worst Grass-types. #1 better be Maractus, cause training that piece of crap was a pain in the butt, and had no redeeming factors about it, especially when anyone else can do better than it! And here I thought training Heatmor was bad...
One idea I have is they should make some sort of orbs, like toxic and flame orb, for weather based abilities. Sunny orb, Rain orb, Ice orb and Sand orb. They can activate weather based abilities but not gain the boost effect. So no 1.5 boost but can activate solar beam and ect.
I'm 100+% surprised that Wailord nor Wishiwashi was on the list AT ALL. Considering you're into competitive PVP and Wishiwashi is close to useless when it's not in school form (which WILL be more often than not without question). In Wailord's case, it's just Chansey, but worse (if you ask me when looking at stats). Now that I have that said, I'd like to see Steel next.
Well yeah Phione is a mythical in a way but is a mix of both Ditto and Manaphy stats. The only thing is that Ditto took off 20 base stats across the board from Phione. It's impure.
i love relicanth and corsola thou but i never used them , its kinda sad to see them here but now i know why ^^! and when you mentionned the mythical pokemon and saw keldeo on the picture i was looking at my figure of him in front of me XD like ''nooo not you ;o;'' im glad it was phione thou...
You know if you did a the Top 10 weakest Normal or Psychic-type Pokémon, you would definitely put Girafarig in both them. Its stats are bad (mainly its Defenses and Speed), and its move set isn't too solid, mainly with Normal-type moves. It also makes sense they didn't add it in the Sword and Shield Pokédex.
Lumineon needs a stat boost or evolution, I recommend giving a stat boost to 520 because it’s favorite food is Starmie and Starmie is 520 so Lumineon should be 520
Magikarp be like: "They said i was the weakest water type Pokemon!! They all said i was the worst, but they were all wrong!! How does it feel to be looked down by a Magikarp!? B****!!"
Imagine a fire type having Drizzle a poison type having immunity.... Anywayi am thinking G max gardevoir hwving G max Marriage boosting both defenses by 1 each time the move is uses
I love Lumineon, Dewgong, and Luvdisc. Now I know its not good competitively but Luvdisc a shiny at that saved me in a nuzlock so Valentine is always gonna be my boy.
dude If you have shell smash, you are required by unsaid law to use white herb or focus sash, so I dont think you'll be struggling to live one hit or anything
