As simple as it may be to your many subscriber's, I am just now understanding some of the mark's made by milling machines. I don't have experience, so this is new to me. Thank you!
I used to have an EMCO Compact 8, it is one of the best small lathes one can get.. if you want smaller, get either the proxxon or an EMCO Compact 5.. i have a Compact 5 CNC now, and i use it to make titanium watches. I also bought an EMCOturn 120 which is quite a different machine alltogether.. it is a slantbed CNC lathe with an 8 position Toolchanger.. and a 2.2Kw spindelmotor.. the thing is a beast!..
I want a beginner lathe for acrylic/resin, are those suitable, I never buy cheap Chinese crap but sincerely I don't want to spend a fortune either so what do you propose?
well it's a lathe ru-vid.comUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
50 years ago I bought a unitmate combination lathe and vertical milling machine. It was the only one around. Damn , I wish these machines were around then...
I have never used one of these machines but my stomach turned as soon as I started see the video. I felt in my gut that something was awfully wrong. Reading the comments below confirmed my fears. I learned a lot, really.
Well, in addition to useing the wrong cutting tool, that appeared to be mis-centered too low, Running a little to many RPM, NO cutting fluid, Machine not anchored, no wonder the vibration- There's more, but enough for now -----
@@marksommers4868 in the first video it almost looked as if he was turning the material clockwise. I thought its supposed to run counter clockwise? someone educate me
Yes, a lot of us were expecting to see an injury. The entire time, no eye protection, yet wears gloves at times while operating machines. Opens the gear boxes and runs two of them Right next to one another. Almost runs into the Chuck while it’s spinning. For those of us that have training, watching this is painful. For those of us that don’t, well, it’s still painful. Your gut knows when something is wrong. Just because the machine is small doesn’t mean it’s a damn toy. This video needs a disclaimer when people are as stupid as him in the world. Someone with far too much disposable income is gonna buy one of those having no idea how to use it and end up seriously hurting themselves. P.S. don’t look up “de-gloved hand” - suffice it to say it’s why you don’t wear your wedding ring while operating these things. Yuck.
Turning with a parting tool is a new one for me and wow that is all kinds of stupid! No tailstock use, removing the spring on the chuck key and leaving in the chuck. So many things!
Just a suggestion for anyone getting a mini-lathe with the sheet metal backsplash on it. This doesn't really scale down well from a larger lathe and makes it difficult to work around the chuck, clean, and so forth. It can make thing less crowded and open things up to just remove it. If you absolutely must have a backsplash, you can fashion one that is free standing and even movable and place it a little further back from the lathe.
The "Packing Shim" under the turning tool needs to be further forward (nearer to the tool tip) Otherwise the tool can Vibrate (Chatter) & Always disengage the Feed (Traverse) before stopping the Chuck.
This video is a Darwin award in the making. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when he tried turning with a parting tool, fortunately he sped the spindle up so the torture would be over faster. He then stored the key in the chuck for a special surprize. I could go on but I feel sick reliving the things I saw in this video.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that he was a complete w@@@@r I'm a retired precision engineer, God knows what he was, didn't get to the end of the vid it was too unbearable!
Exactly, and I mean EXACTLY what I was thinking. No eye protection, wearing gloves while operating the machines, nearly running into the spinning Chuck. It’s irritating this guy seems to have NO formal training in machining, yet has the money to buy all this crap. I wonder if he’s still alive. Considering the time most of us have had to put in just to safely operate a lathe/mill at work/school, seeing this is painful. At the end, he turns them all on at once with exposed gears. Then it says “both lathes are professional lathe” - there was nothing professional about this video, including the lathes.
What is the use testing these lathes if the person testing has 0 knowledge on how to operate a lathe…. After a few minutes I stopped watching this ridiculous video. I have been a machinist for 30 years and I trained many students on how to use lathe’s and milling machines. And each and every one of them could operate a lathe better then the maker of this video.
Sorry if these are stupid questions but i just got a bit curious. What does it mean his cutting tool is low and why is that bad? What is burr? I've heard before that a 4 jaw chuck is better than a 3 jaw, but why is a 3 jaw even worse specifically with a non machined bar?
@@mroogabooga8763when your cutting tool is too low or to hight, it vibrate and make noise and dont cut as clean as if it is centered. Dont be sorry, we are all hier to learn 👍
since when i was a young boy i'm very fun to work any metal works small,engine overhauling,welding diy fabrication..till now thats the one of my fun and one source of my income i have a mini shop in my home..thats my dream to have my own mini lathemachine but i can't afford to buy for it..
How many lathes you already have tried before than you made this video? I saw many super cars but never drive. RU-vidrs are magic guys. they know which product is best before than somebody make it.
I am tempted to buy a mini lathe to help me with some projects. My grandad had an industrial lathe in his shed but I was never allowed to use it and it was too late by the time I was old enough to use it.
Get a good one, then. I only have a vertical mill yet, but sprung for a Sherline 5410 when I shopped around, even if it cost me nearly double what the Chinesium mills cost.
I hear ya buddy. I love that people make videos like these, but some scare me shitless. Using a cutoff bit to take a 1mm cut on power feed of what looks like mild steel rod at a 5-6x extension unsupported had me sweating...
Wow! Never seen a parting tool used in that way before, he's luck it didn't break with the side thrust. He'd be a danger to humanity on a big machine. I will give him some credit for at least trying to extol the virtues of the machines however. I do recommend that he reads up on machine shop safety, it's exists for a reason, don't die of ignorance fella!
A good video, thanks. It would have been better, IMHO, with your 'audio' input. Since you are not selling anything, thoughts matter, even if negative. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for a good informative video, I thought the Emco 8 compact was in a different class but its 3 times the price of the others. I used to own a like-new Emco a bit bigger and stronger, I sold it, what a mistake. anyway, thanks again. Colin UK.
Eu sou fisurado em máquinas são muito legais ainda compro um torno uma fresa e muito util PARABÉNS pela demonstração Qual e o custo deste torno maior... e o da mini freza? EDINALDO MARCHAL
Everything you showed us was quite impressive, i thought so anyway. I take it your in the States judging by your plug sockets? I live in the UK and would love to get my hands on one of those small green Proxon machines. It's for my lad, he's a budding engineer and very motivated. Are the small Proxon Lathes available in the UK? Thank you for the demos.
Honestly you're better off getting a second hand Myford or other classic brand lathe on Ebay. For a similar price you'd get a higher capacity, better rigidity and your lad would learn a lot about lathe mechanics from cleaning it up. Course you'd have to do your research for that though, can't buy an abused one by mistake.
Please don’t emulate anything this man does in this video, there are so many things he misses in terms of general safety I was expecting him to injure himself on camera.
Axminster Powertools sell the Proxon.As someone mentioned you could get a decent second hand lathe , but no sure if your dad would appreciate a second hand one .
*YIKES* I was poking so hard at my PC monitor with one hand and punching my keyboard with the other hand at everything wrong in this dangerous video that I broke my screen and my keyboard!!! *HOLY SMOKES.....YOU'RE FIRED*
every time i go to the machine tool workshop of a friend of mine i can not stop myself of wondering-relish of how many things i could do with a such equipment.
Very instructive!! We learned how to turn the power switch 2 dozen times and how to engage the auto feed. I feel so much smarter now. Plus I learned that the 3 to 5 diameters stick out is an old wife tale.
Using a parting tool to turn stock: Really? I can’t take this guy seriously, as he doesn’t appear to know the basics of machining, never mind comparisons.
What a dumbass., that is what this video shows. A lathe is a very dangerous machine in the hands of a untrained, underskilled cave man who has not the slightest knowledge about metalworking machines. If I did this during my training, my teacher surely send me away to study the books again, to show me how to properly use a parting tool. It took me 4 years to learn everything what is to know how to use a lathe and what you can make with this machine. Don't give this guy any credit.
So you make fair points, but look at it from the other point of view - not everyone is a machinist by trade. Perhaps rather than just throwing shade from a position of privilege, we could instead make positive suggestions so that at least people who do watch this video know how to be safe. The fact is, not everyone needs to know *everything* about using a lathe (some people just want to make the occasional bushing or whatever), and people *are* going to buy them, regardless whether you think they should. If there are 10 "golden rules" for using a lathe (tie back any loose hair/clothes, never run without stock in the chuck, learn which tools are for which task, etc), offer those from your experiences instead.
@@neilbarnwell my point is that, this video was presented by an obvious novice with no knowledge whatsoever of this craft. Using his lack of skills in the subject to “suggest” comparisons is ridiculous, as anyone with the basic skills of this trade would have been using the correct tools for the job. As for privilege, what the hell is that all about?
Having served a four year apprenticeship in a machine shop, this video was like watching someone fold a map the wrong way: a bit toe-curling. Interesting machines for the garage, though.
None of you master machinists were born knowing how to do any of this shit. Now I'm sure you all went to trade schools and the like but this guy is just having fun. No where did I see or hear him telling anyone how to do anything. Guys like you and all your commenting buddies can kiss my ass
From 23rd to 24th minute I almost broke my keyboard when you stopped in the middle of the cut after going full speed with no coolant or tailstock. You're so fucking lucky that you haven't hurt yourself when doing this, as you clearly have no idea what you're doing. This isn't a toy - it's a machine that doesn't care about your limbs or eyes..
@@lenroddis5933 b. Very true. I bought the basic 90e at the ME exhibition at a promo price around £200 about 50 years ago and added extras when I could.but I could not justify the price now, but it performs now as it did when I bought it.
@@tevya017 Mine's a 90ME about the same age as yours, bought on eBay a couple of years ago. I upgraded the spindle to the current M14 by 1 because I needed a 4 jaw chuck. The spindle was expensive, not to mention the 4 jaw chuck, the 3 jaw chuck, vertical milling slide, vice, two die holders, faceplate etc. I converted the original M14 by 1.5 spindle and 3 jaw chuck into a dividing head using a 30 tooth worm gear. The old girl managed to bore a 3/4" hole through a 1.5" cube of aluminium to take phosphor bronze bushes for the spindle. It took a while. With a couple of shop made division plates, I can accurately drill the 4, 5 and 7 hole bolt circles I need for the small steam engines I build, and many more besides. Although the lead screw is well worn, It still manages accurate work. Trouble is the lead screw runs directly in the cast iron saddle and would require some expensive and risky machining by Cowells, which I can't justify. I've built a Stuart 10V and a D10 steam engine using just the lathe and milling slide. The Stuart Compound Launch I'm working on at present is a different ball game for which I bought a small, cheap Chinese mill. The lathe setup just isn't rigid enough to cope. I'd like to move onto something bigger that will turn a flywheel more than 3.5" in diameter. The mill I bought is OK, but can't hold a candle to the quality of a well worn 50 year old Cowells lathe.
TOS MN-80, but that one is very, very rare. Also his successor, the TOS SU-16 is hard to find. But this both are serious lathes, very accurate and very heavy for their size. About triple the weight of the Chinese competitors on the market. Turning at 0.01mm is no problem. Better then the holy Emco.
@@iokarii It certainly doesn't demonstrate that on this video. What we see here is a machine that doesn't match up to the performance of much cheaper lathes from China. I'll grant that the person demonstrating it on here is inexperienced in metal turning by his own admission but, even so, it doesn't seem to justify its £990 price tag!
@@rontocknell5400 hi, I can not proof or not exactly this lathe, I do not have personal experience.. I just have 5(?) proxxon machine (drill, etc) and I was surprised of how silent is, about power in comparison to how small are (effectivness), holding/constant rotatio speed when increase power, etc. I am satisfied with proxxon, despite of moře expensive, I buy it for long time.. Definitely exist another comparable tools, I do not dispute it.. Comparison could go moře deeply, and also depend on personál preference, what is the major work to use it for😉. Take care, best wishes.
Shutting down for an emergency! Really? I wonder how many lathe you got, this guy behind the machine is unskilled to operate it, doesn't even know how to run it properly. Plug it on and beware of flying things from the lathe. I hope you're not being injured doing it and working with the machine.
@ 2:20, the spring loaded chuck key! Brings back old shop memories, leaving a chuck key in was a major transgression. I remember South Bend Lathes being advertised in Popular Mechanics for home shops. Back in the day guys just knew how to work with their hands and make stuff. Now they just sit around with their smart phones.
It's for safety! The key won't stay in the chuck because of the spring and accidently injure the user when he/she turns the machine on. It could fly off with a respectable force.
OMG - I look and I start to cry, he use a cutting tool (dedicated for that operation ) to a longitudinal machining of surface - min 4:08. I tried to look from start to end this video and I'm 100% sure this guy need to goes in workshop and start to learn how to use this type of equipment's. If the scope was to promote this equipment's we can accept , but the way used to present how work this machines is unbelievable ( miserable ) - belongs to the category NOT IN THIS WAY.
