Top 4 Reasons The Czech Vz.58 Could Give You A Headache 

I love this rifle. With a folded stockmeasures 63 cm, is about 1kg lighter(3,5 kg) than AK, in fullauto mode it is 30% faster than AK.(800-850/min). If You take a magazine for 15 rounds, it will fit in your backpack. You can go to the mountains knowing that a friend VZ 58 will easily defend You....I hit a traffic sign without optics at 80 -100 m. This rifle is universal. (For hunting, defend activities and sport) Magazines for VZ 58 are produced for 10, 15, 30, 40 and drumm for75 cartridges

Awesome history. I love the Vz58 I got from you!

Fired one and the recoil impulse seemed tamed compared to same caliber AKMs I'd fired. It was also light and classy, which I enjoyed.

I was awaiting this follow up video with much anticipation!

Another very informative video Mishaco. Yes the Vz58 has it's limits. It is a combat weapon, not a Gucci gun. Here in the Czech republic it is like our AR, everybody has one. The strongest complaint I have heard about it is that unlike the AR or other weapons it has not been given any substantial improvements since it's inception in the late 50s. The short stock is a complaint here as well specially that Czechs rate as the 3rd tallest nation on average. As for the VZ24-26 I believe it to be a real winner, heck the UZI was based on it. The Vz24-26 is simple, compact, cools well because of the open bolt, reliable and with the 7.62TT round very effective. It is my go to weapon for close quarter involvements

The Czechs going into the post-war(WW2) era were before and after were one of the leading firearm manufacturer's in the world. Since going into the post-war(WW2) era the weapons manufactured were a combination of their innovation design and the best innovations from the German small arms of WW2. The VZ58 RIFLE is an excellent semi-auto rifle(converted for use by law-abiding citizens). From the late fifties through this very day; t his rifle is very much used today as it was used in yesteryears by the military's of the world on every battlefront. This semi-auto rifle is customizable but a person has to shop around for what they want.

Misha. Thankyou so much for your channel man. I hope all is well with you and you have a good day today!

Like your video. I served in CZ army at the times when vz. 58 was a standard equipment for soldiers. I’d argree with some of your comments but I don’t agree with one. More specificaly the difficuilty of field strip. Yes there are some challenges like small parts but it has a reason for that (better reliability, higher rate of fire, lesser recoil). Also all soldiers where trained to perform field strip and assembly within 10 seconds and practiced it again and again to overcome little bit more complex construction. Also, I’d disagree that the different construction was just political. Jiri Cermak (the designer of the rifle) made this firearm with was he had learned from AK’s weaknesses to make this gun better. I agree it is not the best gun in the world yet but on the other hand at the times (1950s) it was an extraordinary gun.

Excellent 🇨🇿 love the VZ 58

Another great video. I liked the idea of Jay selling and you being the skeptic. I saw one of your older vz videos over the summer and I was inspired to get one. Programming note.. for anyone in the michailitia that has the unfortunate luck of living in a restricted state.. they do offer pinned magazine models that feed from stripper clips and require no additional modifications.

The military classic is the way to go imo. I'm not so much a fan of "tacticool" unless its a slant cut vepr :)

Great Video. Love my VZ58. The paratrooper looks really cool! Seems the patrooper version of most carbines/rifles are badass.

I love my vz58, my muzzle break helped with the barrel climb and the extended bolt hold open/release and extended ambidextrous magazine release really helped speed up mag changes. Edit. I picked up a new stock with a cheek riser so it has all fab furniture, it helps get a good cheek weld when using my red dot.

Perfect video. Vz. 58 is a great collectors gun, and a great target range gun. To anyone who appreciates collecting and can afford one, it'll be a great addition.

Apex has a bunch of 58 parts right now just in case anyone is looking.

Another great video Mish

Solid. Appreciate the upload.

I have gun, 3 mags, & 150 rds, all in old violin case. Never draws a second look.

I bought cz 858 P (european civilian version, like canadians have) for 600 euros ~ 730 $. I modernized it and it was not cheap ~1405 $. But now its a modern rifle i think. Before the "modernization" the rifle weight loaded was 3.6 kilograms now its 4.4 without the light Adjustable target sport sights 150 $ Bolt release lever from EVOARMS 56$ Zendl compensator 46$ rear handle grip from Arsenal 42$ ambidextrous magazine release from EVOARMS 38 $ Forend gunexpert made from duralumin with special locking mechanism that holds zero 450$ Folding stock with commercial size tube from gunexpert with MFT Minimalist buttstock and another spare fab defence gl core ~350 $ magpul ms 4 QD sling 45 $ magpul QD mount 23 $ fab defence front grip ~40 $ cheap red dot ~ 50 $ I recently bought light with pressure switch streamlight protac hl-x 1000 lumens 115 $

Average height in Czech Republic is 180cm which is more than the US. Just a small detail.

Love that beautiful brass 7.62 x 39. Absolutely love the in depth videos you all do.

Me watching Mishas videos for years *sees title* I knew this day would come.

My CSA vz58 is the most accurate x39 rifle I've ever fired. I got rid of the CSA black furniture and added the Beaver barf set. I just need a surplus sling.. for how light it is, it still has less felt recoil than an akm.

20, 30 Bucks for a mag... I pay 100 Bucks for my SG55X Rifles and they are made a few miles from where i live 🤣 Greetings from Switzerland, love the Channel!

ČZ vz.58 only has one significant issue. In Czech Republic we are not allowed to own original military full-auto version. Only those with semiauto modifications. And as you know, if you modify something later, it is not as good as original. But still this rifle is one of the top 7.62x39 choices to go with. Military grade rifle underwent same testing as AK system before it was allowed for army adaption. Don't worry about reliability, those tests were rough.. for example continuous 20k rounds only with cooling in water barrel after every third magazine.

Dang being in California. I would just love to get anything that doesn't have all that California compliance on it. California is just a bunch of killjoys.

Love my CSA VZ58 Sporter version, I'm hoping to get the rifle version around may too

@mishaco where/what side rail do you have on this, and where can I get it?

I love the VZ58/2008.

So glad that I got a whole armorers kit back in the day. It was not inexpensive at the time, but it was a great value at $300 when you consider current prices of parts kits.

Misha, do you know anyone who Builds Vz58s? I have a nice kit I got from Apex that I'd like built sooner rather then later

I just bought a vz 58 parts kit. I hope the firing pin is not broke and the spring is good.

Ive owned an AK for a year and have been doing a research for wither a Ga Lil or VZ58 and I am leaning rowards a VZ now for my next gun

I will say the folding stock isn't terrible, but it's not great. If you do a paracord wrap on it, it makes it pretty decent. Funny part about the short length of pull, is now that most militaries use plate carriers, it's probably a great length. I'm not a short guy, 6'3" and the length of pull doesn't bother me. But that's just me. I think it encourages being very squared up on the rifle. The handguards do get super hot super fast.

Don't own one, but always thought they looked cool. There's something neat about just enjoying it for what it is. Hope they come back in stock eventually.

I hear these are insanely popular in canada, it's aparently the most modern gun they can get up there.

My first rifle! Love me some 762x39 and the lighter weight milled receiver of the VZ58 compared to tge AK

Have had a Vz58/2008 for quite a few years now with no issues. Back when I got it, there were quite a few accessories available for it and Magazines were more available. Mine has the Mako Defense Grip and Folding Stock along with BoneSteel upper and lower Handguards. The BoneSteel upper Handguard features a rail for Optics and I have a Red Dot installed. In short, you can customize a Vz58 to your liking, but you may have to work a bit harder at it and there will be fewer choices in parts. After customizing my Vz58/2008, I assure you, my sanity is quite intact!

Bit of an odd question but what kind of gas block is used for this because I'm kinda debating between this and the zastava m70 since the gas block on the m70 after a kns conversation upgrade makes it super nice. If this is anything like that I will definitely be considering buying this instead of that

This is a very beautiful toy, in quality it matches HK 91 and Belgian FN FAL, I am lucky to have them.

Hey Misha, do you have an Instagram account? Really appreciate your depth of knowledge beyond the guns themselves. That’s rare in today’s Guntuber/content creators. Much respect.

Misha, which muzzle break do you suggest for these?

Misha, I have a quick question. Would you rather own a Russian SKS-45 or a Czech Vz.58? Im new to the Vz.58's and I'm learning more about them. Thanks, ~Molotov

Have you ever been able to review the Milled Yugo underfolder that was imported by ATI? I beleive the model is GAT47gen2?

possibly better than an ak, seriously underraed

Zahal has some accessories if you want to Tac-out your Vz-58. I'll keep mine stock thank you.

what gives me a headache is the fact that it is next to impossible to mount LPVO or red dot + magnifier... the replacement rail for dust cover is too short for both options... that said a company here makes a full length dust cover but IMO it has its limits too :)

So what are the reasons?

Mine is losing the Dust cover Pin.. Happen to me during a 2 day class. And the handguard gets hot, quick.

Love my VZ2008! Had some work done to the bolt carrier and internals that ensure greater reliability and no dead trigger which is otherwise common with Century’s receiver and trigger design. Also have added and oversized, ambidextrous mag release as well as the bolt release, a machined aluminum scout-positioned optics mount over the piston, and a birdcage A2 style flash hider.

Only headache I have with a VZ 58 is the cost. I have a CSA VZ 58, but wouldn’t mind having that wood furniture to put on it now and then.

I wish I could find one for sale for less than $800.

I have 2 and they are simply great. They are just fun and easy to run. And the are 'Cold War' old school cool.

Would love to hear you make a video about the old Russian type 3 kits, I’ve spent the past few days looking for one of these kits and a receiver but I haven’t had any luck, I’m willing to pay a hefty price for one of these too. If i manage to find one this will be my first kit gun.

Beautiful.

Love both of my VZ’s.

FCG was originally held in w/ a riveted in rocker lever. Great engineering.

Another gun guy said he hates them .I've always liked the looks but with the prices ,I'll just enjoy the videos thank you .Hehe

So the video idea was 4 negative point on vz58, as a result we have viewers positive comments :))))

Okay anybody know where to buy one? Literally can’t find a VZ 58 to save my life

True for the trigger cant do anything but you can put a B&T quad rail, if you own not CSA one you can put a ambi safety, a bolt/mag release, a rear piccatiny cover for a optic. Not that obsolete for me. A second hand SHE is 495.- swiss francs.

Total nit picking here, but technically it's not striker fired. The firing pin is a separate piece, so it would be considered a linear hammer. That said, close enough for government work.

I have one that I bought 10 years ago.I love the gun,wouldn’t want to take it to combat.

I love your videos, but the audio is always so low. Whoever edits the videos should knock that up a notch or two.

Gotta say it would be one of my end of the world guns. 1 lb lighter than an ak 7.62x39 which is a harder hitting round at combat distances than 5.56 last shot hold open on the negative it would be difficult to get parts for it and mags are not interchangeable with ak it ialso lighter than a mini 30

ummm, no...AK was literaly designed to replace multiple submachine guns of ussr

My biggest gripe with the VZ58 is the mag release is only on the left side, which can get weird to release on off hand mag changes (which technically means the AK is more ambi than the vz). Also, did the CZ military ever end up using metal heat shields on their gun? I’ve seen some rare photos of civilian Czech guns with a heat shield.

I am a former user of this gun and I found no problems with it. Considering its durability even in hands of completely unqualified and weak motivated conscripts it is able to fulfill all expectations with much higher usage quality compared to Russists’ AK

I like the CZ 58..

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@Mishaco not sure where get your info but some are really false. Non of the original prototypes used blowback action. First prototype with blowback was made almost 40 years later and for 9mm version only. Those doesn't have locking wedge and carrier is weld together with bolt. First prototypes had piston in barrel trunion which caused self ignition after few hundred rounds so moved forward. Aim was made light rifle capable full auto but never meant to be sub machine gun. This is simply supported by doctrine how was rifle used. Soldiers very rarely shot in full auto so most people of the infantry had only 2-3 exercises where was used full auto ( often with focus on selecting shooters with good burst control for machine gunner role ). Another clue for that is selector where change from semi to full auto requires more effort in comparison to some other assault rifles. Compact size was due to fact that Czechoslovakian infantry was mainly motorised compared to many NATO forces including US. Actual average height of Czechoslovaks, Germans and Poles is comparable with Scandinavian countries so people from those countries are tallest in Europe. More than Brits which are comparable to Canadians who are statistically taller than US Citizens. Lower reliability than AK is also myth. Even Soviet reports after thorough tests in Soviet Union found reliability comparable with AKM. Problem was non originally rifles. US made receivers are based on guessed tolerances and dimensions usually from worn rifles. CSA/D-technic didn't have original drawings either. Parts kits was often from heavily used rifles. Magazines could pain, especially in US but Czechpoint bringing new magazines which are actually really good plus there is still Israeli option. AK magazine can be modified and will work just not hold open. Few friends modified drums for AKs to use on Vz58.

A submachine gun, by definition, fires pistol ammunition. No variant of the vz 58 is a submachine gun.

I still like my VZ58.

But it is more accurate than ak and ar15.

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Nothing like beaver barf furniture...

Yawn….. VZ 58 is light years ahead of the AK47. Easy to use, easy to maintain. , faster rate of fire, lighter, more accurate, etc., etc, etc. I do like that wood furniture!!

Nobody complane in my time.evrbody like this mashingun

I'd have a hard time dogging it if I love it and I do love it. I need a Galil ARM.

Well if it's made by century arms than you'll have a head ache.

thb you just need to upgrade the gun and it can compete with modern guns easily

Cool gun from a milsurp pov. But the ak is infinitely more easy to modernize and come in 5 calibers, take common magazines if in the 3 original calibers, tho zenitco is supposed to make vz furniture so maybe that will push it into the early 21st century

Nice guns. I think the AK is objectively better, but I enjoy the VZ nonetheless.

I’ve always felt weird for hating the Vz.58. The trigger is extremely stiff and spongey, and the recoil impulse makes it almost painful to shoot. The position of the stock makes it so I can just barely get a sight picture. It’s a shame, since on paper it would appear to be a great gun.

Still cool but not too good for a range gun 😆

Not all mentioned points are correct. I don't agree !

A B C D E F G H I J K L etc etc 😂😂😂

Ugly ugly ugly, AK all the way!

Don’t care. Wanted one ever since a certain show aired on skinemax, some years ago.

Enjoyed the video. Interesting design but too many flaws. Wish it had been a downsized/lighter AK.

How dare you

This is not real 58 and I know what I'm writing

A narrow minded view of of an infantry short rifle . their is no such thing as an "assault rifle". that was a phrase created by anti-firearm peoples to impress upon the general public their agenda to take firearms out of the hands of "LAW ABIDDING CITIZENS". It is the criminal who commits the crimes against humanity using illegally acquired firearms. It is not the firearm that commits the so called assault , it is the "PERSON/PERPATRATOR" using the weapon , that commits the assault! If you are a gunsmith/gun shop owner and use the the phrase "assault gun" you are wrong for that.

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Love my CSA with its 12" barrel!

Another gun guy said he hates them .I've always liked the looks but with the prices ,I'll just enjoy the videos thank you .Hehe