Puppet likely knows the name of fire, and/or maintains sympathetic links to multiple candles around the university to observe for potential presence of one or more of the chandrian.
One of my favourite moments is that small Interlude in Name of the wind, when Bast points out that Deana had a crooked nose, perhaps she’s not as beautiful as Kvothe likes to remember? ;)
Idk a crooked nose doesn't mean someone isn't beautiful and then again even if she wasn't "beautiful" in the normal sense, she could be beautiful in the eyes of Kvothe?
I am thinking that its not that she isnt beautiful but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Shes probably beautiful but to Kvothe she is the *most* beautiful
Some fun theory’s, but Kvothe lying or making it up doesn’t really seem to hold much water. Why would an elf be his student if he was just some inn keeper spinning stories. Plus he fights the Scrael in front of Chronicler. He pretty much breaks his note keeping cipher in minutes and they both been to the University. Chronicler would know if he was even slightly off about some of the details at the University. So even if he’s embellishing the vast majority of the story has to be somewhat true. I’d have to say my favorite theory is that Denna’s patron is Brayden.
@@fautogomez1758 really depends on your definition, fae is pretty much everything otherworldly so the typical from tolkin copied fantasy elfs are definitly fae
well, he is very obviously a biased narrator, as beautifuly showen with the example of Denna who gets put on an unreachably high pedestal, where Bast injects, that she really was not that beautiful and Kvothe can not realy argue against it. The thing is not, is he all lying or not, but where is he lying, where does he embelish and where is he true to what happened. Changing up a dialogue, connecting to seperate points to draw the narrative togeather, chosing his words so the reader comes to a wrong conclusion. I am sure as hell hat he zensores stuff and embalishes others to make him or someone else look better or worse.
I agree that hes not making it all up but I do think he could be taking creative liberties with parts to make a better story... especially with the way he spread lies and rumors about himself in his own story to gain reputation it would shock me if he was being 100% truthfull
Not necessarily lying, but Kvothe states he is an excellent storyteller and starts rumors about himself all the time. Also, when Kvothe 1st meets Brayden he describes him as appearing grey or as "ash"...he walks with a cane as well...i definitely believe he is Master Ash...i think the king Kvothe kills is either Ambrose or it causes Ambrose to ascend to the throne. Denna is a princess or high noble and will be obliged to marry Ambrose. I believe Kvothe accidentally killed her while trying to cure her chest related illness. She is definitely dead...while Chronicler, Bast and Kvothe are speaking of her it is ALWAYS is the past tense. Denna has her own magic...whatever she writes down becomes true to whomever reads it (this special power is mentioned at least twice)...thus Master Ash tells her the "other vesion" of the Chandrian.
We've never actually directly witnessed any chandrian, outside Cinder being a jerk, do anything bad though. It's implied that they killed Kvothe's troupe, but he didn't actually witness it. Same with the farm, Denna didn't see any Chandrian kill anyone.
Great video, thanks for reminding me how much I love those books! Here are a few extra theories for you: 1. Chronicler is not just a Lackless (Lochees), he is also bait for some kind of ultimate showdown planned by Kote in the present, following the recitation of the Chandrians’ names at the end of the Ademre chapters. 2. The “king” Kvothe kills is actually Sim, the only aristocrat we get to know well, and also the only poet (Kvothe’s sword is the “poet-killer”, and perhaps his machinations against Ambrose cause retaliation against Fela, resulting in a falling out with Sim, also Kvothe has already faced 2 of 3 “wise man’s fears”: the sea in storm, the moonless night, but not yet the wrath of a gentle man). 3. Lady Lackless’ husband’s “rocks” are magical warding stones, like those shown by Kilvin, which create a magical barrier to... do something, 4. The story of the commoner who saved the ill princess was Cinder, hence the tree (tragedy/Cthaeae) in the background of his image, 5. It all comes back to Yll: Kvothe has Yllish blood, hence Lorren’s agent mistakes him for Yllish, and Stanchion shares his red hair, irony when Denna tells him “even Yllish people don’t speak Yllish anymore”; maybe Cinder was Kvothe’s illegitimate father (“he ‘did things’ to his mother”, but the scrupulously truthful yet deviously misleading Cthaeae never said they weren’t consensual things), was also Yllish, hence his image over water as having arrived from an island, also originally had red hair which turned white with age (Mr Ash/Cinder, a spent flame).
Another place with KKC content! Huzzah! I totally didn't know that Tunnel Bob story, so thanks for bringing it up and linking it! One interesting tidbit, the theory of "Ring Around the Rosie" & the plague has been disproven. It turns out that the plague/black death explanation was just someone's crackpot theory from 1961 (that's 600 years after the song started) that got popularized, but has been disproven as there is no evidence to support it. Anywho, keep up the KKC work!
I have plenty of KKC stuff planned in the future. It is always fun to find new places that love the same stuff as yourself. I actually did some more digging on this and your are 100% correct on this matter about Ring Around the Rosie. It is still interesting that has been such a persistent urban legend. Maybe something similar might happen with some of the information about The Chandrian. Who knows but thank you for that information.
Love these! Others I like are Kvothe being a Chandrian and silence being his sign. The Chandrian are all tragic figures and we know that at least two others maybe visited that certain tree that sent them on a tragic path ( Jax and possibly Cinder) . So maybe Kvothe kills one and becomes one. Or Kvothe hid his own abilities away from himself and can't just be reminded like Bast wants. Or Kvothe made that pact with Denna to never look for her patron and swore on his power and name, but he does and loses both.
#2 is likely to be correct, mostly. I'm not sure that the Chandrian want to die, but it seems to me that by seeking them out, he's bringing them into existence in a way they would prefer not to be. What seems clear to me is that this has direct ties to the thrice-locked box and Kvothe's lost abilities. I think he was complicit in or the prime cause of his lost powers. Opening the box requires the assistance of someone just as powerful as or more powerful than he was when he locked it. That is to say, he locked his powers and abilities away from himself so that he would cease seeking the Chandrian and would not bring about destruction. I do not believe this was sufficient, however. Now the rippling forth of the powers of the Chandrian is taking its effect, and without a restored Kvothe, what little chance he had in defeating them is all but gone. The third book must therefore play out the regaining of his powers, likely as a consequence of interaction with the Mayor, Bast, the Masters at the University, and ultimately Denna, who is able to ascend to the highest ranks of Yllish magic knots. The Chandrian wreak havoc upon the land, destroying many loved characters as well as Kvothe. The Chandrian are stopped at great cost to everyone involved. Here's the thing, though: you think you want Rothfuss to write the third book, but if you understood the books, you would not want this. The world will come to an end; to insist that Rothfuss publish this book now is to ask for the world to end now. Writing a book is written magic. The worlds called into existence are as real as the one you and I inhabit now, at the very least to the person doing the writing. If the ordering of things brings about the publication of the third book now, that's fine. (I suspect that Rothfuss has written that some version of the book is published upon the event of his untimely death.) But as it stands, we may observe a silence in three parts respectfully.
My understanding was he was a former student that went to the crockery. I might be wrong, I will have to go back and check. I believe he totally serves a function in some way as well. Thank you for watching the video and commenting.
@@MiddleFantasy the best part is if it is true I don't think that Kvothe knows it. Because I think Bast, and this could be wrong, is short for bastard, and I don't think that Kvothe would knowingly call his own son that.
@@fastgav bast is short for bastas, his fathers name is given in his introduction and he does not apear to be fond of felurian as it seams in the lightning tree
@@SingingSealRiana someone that is Fae cannot lie but it isn't Bast that gives this introduction, it is Kvothe. We also know that Bast is pretty good at half truths and misdirection. Also just because he has negative feelings for Felurian doesn't mean she isn't his mother.
My issue with the Kvothe lying about the whole story theory is that he’s telling it as Kote and you see him struggling with his identity and even struggling with death and stuff so I feel like he has no need to lie or to give completely false things. We see him not able to do any sympathy or much of anything during all of the fights that occur in the current timeline and it just feels like he’s resigned to who he has become so it would be more lying to himself if he chose to just completely make up many parts of his story I think.
Lying is actually a very fascinating subject. Because there are a lot of studies that go into the subject of lying and why people lie. www.webmd.com/balance/features/10-ways-catch-liar You can actually start to see how Kvothe could possibly be lying in terms of his story but to say he lied about the whole thing. I think would be an impossibility he has certainly embellished his story in a few places.
skarpi is an amyr, or powerful enough that the chandrian wants no business with him, like he knows the true story of lanre but the chandrian seems to not know about him, or his story is just another faerie story that the chandrians doesn't care about it but kvothe believed it to be true..
I've read the first and second book 5 or 6 times each. On my 3rd read through them, I marked every 7 word sentence that Kvothe and Denna say to each other. There's a lot
A big problem I have with kvothe embellishing the story is most of what’s told by other people are more interesting lol. He walks back alot of the crazy things that are told by other people. Why would he end the bloodless rumor and others just to make up others that don’t make him look as great/interesting. Sure there can be things he remembered different than others but thats still true to perspective. If kvothe is just lying that makes for such a dumb story lol. A story about a guy who everyone already thinks is god, telling his own story to make him sound good even though everyone already reveres him just seems redundant.
@@MiddleFantasy something that i saw on a captured in the words video its was in his 7 chandrian video (time stamp 8:53), doesnt actually give any real evidence but just thought it was a cool thing to think about
That is a possibility the best play to defeat an enemy is to control the flow of information and perception. I have always been under the impression that the Amyr are actually much like the assassins in Assassins Creed. They come from all walks of life and are able to blend in to all societies.
@@MiddleFantasy exactly, what's a more genius way that the amyr could hide than for them to hide in plain sight and maybe they run the university as an excuse to guard a certain door?????
I highly doubt the chandrian arent the villians In the book Haliax literally tells cinder to put kvothe to sleep Meaning kill him His objective is to kill everyone
In theory Haliax did put Kvothe to sleep, he never said kill either. The rest of the story up until the university. Kvothe is in the door of sleep, forgetfulness and when his lute is broken he briefly enters the door of madness. He is also close to the door of death when he is nearly killed by the guard. Notice how Cinder is described in the chapter or more importantly his sword. Not a drop of blood on his sword.
@@christophercoydev I will not waste my time on some youtube video. I dont care how other people think his name is pronounced Open the name of the wind page 53 it literally has Kvothe saying that his name is pronounced "quothe" so am I going to listen to the person whose name is kvothe or should I listen to some random dude on youtube?
@@lolman7574 I totally understand and I don't see why it's different there, either. But these aren't random these are the author and the person who reads his books on audible. It's not random. Ask the author
The quote from the book is "pronounced nearly the same as Quothe" which is exactly what the author says in his blog that I linked above. READ THE AUTHOR'S ANSWER