Top 5 Underrated and Uncommon Best Weapons for Stealth in PAYDAY 2

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Many stealth loadouts focus on having just a shotgun, and any other weapon for good concealment. This is very common, but definitely not the best choice! There are quite a few interesting weapons that you can bring for their unique utility: teleporting corpses of guards and civs, controlling ragdolls, unlocking faster interactions, zerking (lowering health for Yakuza) in risky spots, killing enemies through walls, placing custom waypoints or floating markers... and a lot more!
➽ TIME STAMPS:
0:00 → Introduction.
0:36 → Hiding guards without body bags.
2:50 → Wall penetration.
4:56 → Exceptionally safe solo zerking and crew SW (for stealth and ECM rush).
8:02 → Faster interactions.
11:40 → GPS / Custom floating markers.
18:45 → End screen!
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Game version: Feb 23rd, 2023 patch (Update 234.1)

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@luthenwilliams5338 Год назад

The pager operator hearing 200 rounds go off and the horrid sounds of that happening before hearing a random guy pick up the pager:

@Marcmb Год назад

Nothing out of the ordinary :D

@serPomiz Год назад

doing a bet of ten bucks that I wouldn't call you and well, I won ten bucks...

@I-eat-minimum-wage-workers Год назад

“Hey billy everything alright over there” *small nuclear war* “Yeah I just saw a huge spider”

@Bacon-ys2xi Год назад

"Okay. See you for bowling later?"

@novaskinner5595 11 месяцев назад

@Idunnowhattoputherr to be fair. The spiders deserve it

@that_one_guy934 Год назад

Ah yes use 60s bulletstorm to move the guard to the opposite elevator! 10/10 master ecm rusher tip

@Nickyjude2 Год назад

Get a guard in the opposite elevator any% run wr

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha! Glad you liked that, TOG. The intended usage of the 60s bulletstorm :p

@theastroguy7417 Год назад

guards see a trail of blood bullet holes and empty shells: "eh, Jims making gun spaghetti again"

@Sydneygivesmeb0nerz Год назад

@@Marcmbthat’s why you’re the best sir

@madewellright 6 месяцев назад

They said slightly

@pawgesterone Год назад

Having a weapon with high penetration makes Big Oil Day 1 even easier than it currently is, and also a lot more fun since you can wall bang the whole house from the basement to the top floor and guards across the map

@Marcmb Год назад

Very true yes! You can also start the heist by taking out cams which is neat, but also runs where you challenge yourself by doing only wall-bang kills are really fun as well :D

@azazel5188 Год назад

These are some real good stealth weapon tips. Just tried out the arrow marking strategy, works wonderfully for me, because I naturally have very bad orienation and instantly forget where everything is. Thanks so much for doing these kinds of videos :D

@Marcmb Год назад

That's great to hear, azazel! The arrows are great in general, but it seems like they'll be a perfect fit for you :) Glad I was able to introduce you to some of these weapons!

@axis5519 Год назад

@@Marcmb Can you use the Ace cards instead?

@Marcmb Год назад

@@axis5519 You absolutely can yup! They work in the same way as arrows, just like shurikens, javelins, etc... I didn't think about mentioning those because most of the time I use either Pocket ECMs, or molotovs. But if your build is compatible with throwing cards, that's a very good use for them!

@axis5519 Год назад

@@Marcmb Thanks!

@trunks4374 Год назад

You forgot to mention the minigun , obviously the best stealth weapon in the game by far ! ( Seriously though, i've never even considered these options , i've always picked the judge and another weapon to have 3 detections risks , but apart from that , i've never picked anything else , thanks for showing these options ! :) )

@poundweed3499 Год назад

It is stealth if there is no one to raise the alarm

@trunks4374 Год назад

@@poundweed3499 well , there's the pager guy so ....

@Marcmb Год назад

Glad you liked these alternatives, Trunks! Indeed the common approach is just shotgun + any weapon for 3 DR, but this variety can be excellent sometimes :D

@serPomiz Год назад

personally, I tend to use the akimbo judges and the mini-chimano on full stealth, the latter because it barelly exist and it takes good advantage of the mechanics, and the former because it basically make the enemies fly much farther away than the standard, and skins aside, it's better under any real face than the single one as long as there are no glass surfaces around

@vi2e Год назад

@@trunks4374 Not in the Border Crossing heist! I love the "5th bag of meth" trick there.

@AceOf_Diamonds_ Год назад

Using arrows as markers to remember objectives is just... Jesus, your creativity knows no bounds, not even Bain would have thought that one out!

@Marcmb Год назад

:D Glad you liked that one, Ace of Diamonds! Some comments have already suggested some applications that I didn't even consider (like Art Gallery marking paintings from the roof), so hopefully this will inspire some build variety for stealth heisters!

@jameshubert6103 Год назад

When the guards see the splooge of blood leading to the elevator, either they tell themselves nope. And if they think of reporting it, whatever did that is better left unawakened

@Marcmb Год назад

Hahaha pretty much! As soon as they see the scene, they already know that it was not done by a normal, sane criminal. Whoever did that, it's in their best interest to not bother them!

@vi2e Год назад

...and let's not forget the hundreds of fired shells!

@Vnx Год назад

Some great tips. I never knew about pushing ragdolls like that. For a while I used a CAR4 modded for stealth and either the Locomotive or Judge. I have a 2x scope on the CAR4 so I can see things at a distance more easily, and I can also use it to shoot enemies near glass with less risk of stray shot pellets breaking anything. More recently I have tried using the Raven shotgun as a primary and an MP5 with a 3x scope as a secondary. I jokingly call it a pair of binoculars with a trigger.

@RyanGFC Год назад

great name

@Marcmb Год назад

Glad you liked the tips Vnx, thank you! I also often use the CAR-4 and Locomotive. For the CAR-4 you can actually use a secondary scope with x6.25 zoom (which is great to see in the distance), and even the Locomotive has this one now! Not sure about the Judge though, because I never use that one...

@Marcmb Год назад

@@RyanGFC What's the name? I don't get the reference!

@tehwolfm4n626 9 месяцев назад

@@MarcmbI think he meant calling the weapons Binoculars XD

@kotzpenner Год назад

Payday: The game where shooting a body 100 times is a more efficient way of moving it away than using your hands. Great work Marc! Edit: Had a thought: it would be cool if you showed what the average time save would be for faster interaction. This is a pretty underrated mechanic, especially for speedrunners. I'd take a guess and maybe 15 seconds for the longer heists? (With no help from players or downtime)

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha true! Many heisters often request being able to drag bodies (like in Hitman) and, while it's not an explicit mechanic, we can kinda do this :p As for your question, some factors are very hard to quantify, but the difference is definitely noticeable. If we compare the downtime of usual shotguns (~0.567s) to the Gecko/pistols downtime (0.3s), that's a 0.25s difference. After every interaction, you will be able to start sprinting 0.25s earlier, and for chained interactions, you will explicitly save that amount of time inbetween each pair of interactions. Also throwing bags will happen sooner, sprinting with light loot, etc...

@kotzpenner Год назад

@@Marcmb Yeah, overall maybe 20 seconds a heist at max? Useful for speedruns

@Marcmb Год назад

@@kotzpenner Excellent for speedruns yup, basically a necessity (for this reason you can see that many recent speedruns always use pistols, because the faster interactions are now a must-have for WR). The time-save really depends on the length of the heist of course, and whether or not it has light loot. For short rushes maybe 5s (Election Day, lots of interactions; Diamond Store lots of bags; Hostile Takeover insane amount of interactions), but for longer rushes it's gonna keep adding up every time you do any interaction, place any deployable, swap your weapons, bag any light loot, etc!

@kotzpenner Год назад

@@Marcmb It's insane I've never noticed that. I always thought they're the same and the difference is just visual lol

@Marcmb Год назад

@@kotzpenner :D Glad I could show this to you in detail! I definitely feel it every time when playing with a saw (so I try to avoid interacting with that equipped), but the difference between shotgun and pistol is non-negligible as well!

@MyUsersDark Год назад

Ever since I saw your Breakin' feds guide, the plainsrider bow has been my 'primary' weapon for stealth. Nice video! Many people just pick a high concealment weapon and forget about it, so it's nice to see some unorthodox stealth weapons having a use :)

@Marcmb Год назад

That's great to hear Dark! I kinda repeated the bow information on this video, but it felt fitting because this was all about stealth weapons. Hopefully this will encourage some variety in stealth loadouts in the future! :D

@Bromentooo Год назад

Sniping the marked paintings from the roof of the art gallery with a bow before entering the building. I'm definitely gonna do that! Thanks for making this video!

@Marcmb Год назад

Interesting application! That's one that I did not think about, but it would indeed work excellently. Kinda like playing duo (where your partner is directing you from the roof), but smoothly done solo :D

@Dravwn Год назад

Quite a late comment, but I really appreciate how much you interact with the comments on your videos and the community itself, you are a great help to anyone who is struggling with builds or heists. Looking forward to more videos like this, I enjoy trying out new builds :)

@Marcmb Год назад

Thank you very much Dravwn! I do my best to check all the comments when I have some time, to help those who need something and to get feedback to make future videos even better / more clear. Glad you've been enjoying these types of videos :D

@i0a729 Год назад

that penetration clip with the civilian was insane tho. bullet went through 2 walls, a body and still killed them

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha yup! Glad you liked that part :D These weapons can be so strong!

@crittomato7043 Год назад

The shooting guard and arrow were new to me, so thank you for this video, that arrow will be added to my stealth build 100%

@Marcmb Год назад

Thank you very much Crit Tomato! Glad you liked those :)

@Degenerate_Gamertag Год назад

This is such an amazing tip video for stealth! I didn't even know you could sweep away a guard ragdoll with full auto like that, and the bow tip is super awesome as well! Being able to mark a keycard or wire box with an arrow like that is just amazing, though you could probably just use a javelin for the same purpose. My only question is, what if you bring the incinerary round grenade launcher for a normal yakusa run 8nstean of an ecm rush, could you use those rounds to sweep away ragdolls like the full auto pistles too?

@Marcmb Год назад

Glad you liked this one RussianGamer, thank you! The ragdoll pushing is indeed one of the best tips here :) It would also work with explosive weapons (HE, grenade launchers...) but sadly the incendiary rounds do not have any kind of push / knockback, so anything that would be able to push bodies in this context would also be extremely loud.

@Degenerate_Gamertag Год назад

@@Marcmb Dang, well thanks anyway! :)

@shoxfu Год назад

akimbo styrk is good for anarchist dsod and basically every stealth loadout. The important thing to note is that stryk raises concealment, so make sure to attach stealth supressors and a concealment boost.

@Marcmb Год назад

Stealth suppressors yes, definitely! But for stealth, don't bother with a concealment boost - just XP boost, to be a real contributor to yourself and your entire crew! :D

@Boulders911 Год назад

Bro your creativity is insane!

@Marcmb Год назад

Thank you very much Boulders! Very kind of you :)

@shekkie Год назад

Something else, a MICROSCOPIC niche you didn’t mention. Dragon’s Breath for full on rushing, wherein the triads can be stunned for an actual kill, and other certain spots where a stun would be helpful for a kill.

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey shekkie! Dragon's Breath is indeed quite useful (or the new stealth equivalent, Tombstone shells) but I didn't mention them here because this video was mostly about non-shotgun weapons, so that will be a different topic in the near future! :D

@jange8782 Год назад

This video is full of amazing tips. I usually use pistols only in saw build due to conceal, but I'm gonna try more pistol builds later.

@Marcmb Год назад

Glad you liked these tips and weapon types, Jang! Pistols are all excellent because of their equip times yup. I really recommend the Gecko for the best of both worlds!

@trzcinekpl3776 Год назад

agreed here with marc about gecko, eventually you could use the 5/7 for wall pierce but you might pierce the wall and kill a civ or break glass (whatever reason to raise alarm), and with gecko instead a shotgun you cant make a guard iirc "intimitated" (crouch animation) which marc also had a video. Also gecko doesnt shoot the fences or doors you can open with a couple of bullets / 1 tap with shotgun. In a situation where guard instantly spots you theres no need to change to the shotgun and yeet him somewhere if you use gecko.

@Marcmb Год назад

@@trzcinekpl3776 Fully agree with all these points yup. For the intimidation and opening doors, someone else also suggested a loadout with primary shotgun + Gecko, to get different benefits from each. This can work quite well!

@trzcinekpl3776 Год назад

@@Marcmb gecko with a primary shotgun on copycat sounds like a great build 2 pecms, weapon change speed, utility (the door, intimidation and lockpick speed) ill proably try that out

@miuzoreyes6547 Год назад

I've been using grom for stealth since around 3 years ago, glad to see wall penetration featured here! It can sometimes save the heist when civilian spots something on the other side of the map (happens a lot in pubs, I'm looking at you The Diamond's basement), to which you can try and snipe them through the floor. My favorite party trick though is killing Sosa early in Scarface Mansion, before lock picking the door to his office. If you do that, the whole balcony area is going to have an invisible wall surrounding it. There's also one surprisingly good weapon that's a bit under-rated (I haven't seen anyone use it) - it's the secondary flamethrower. It, paired with max ammo and Stockholms makes it ridiculously good on map control heists. Since it's so loud, only a couple of taps from the middle of the map are enough to get every civilian down. It's also rather concealable, and the amount of ammo you have means that you practically wont have to reload, ever.

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha the Sosa trick is fantastic yup! The best part is when your crew tries to throw the loot out the balcony as usual, but the bags collide against the invisible wall :D First time I saw that 'bug' I actually killed him with a regular shotgun - just a bit too quickly after the door was opened! The flamethrower is indeed amazing for Stockholm purposes (300m loud range), but I personally prefer the saw _if_ the heist has any stuff to saw open! Because then I can have that, plus a shotgun for its utility.

@Axtxmn666 Год назад

Amazing video! I learned alot from this keep it up!

@Marcmb Год назад

Glad to hear that Axtxmn, thank you! I'll do my best to keep it up :)

@emred4653 9 месяцев назад

the arrow one is seriously clever

@yeetyeetyeet1967 5 месяцев назад

Nice video as always! 2 more things: - the akimbo parabellum can reach 31 concealment without boosts, so you can get 31 concealment + team boost - a grenade launcher can be used to easily break the glass boxes on diamond store

@Marcmb 5 месяцев назад

Interesting! Never thought the Akimbo Parabellum could be good for something. Nowadays there's also a very good one, the CAR-4, which can reach 31 concealment without boosts. Good enough for 14 DR! *EDIT:* as for the Grenade Launcher, I'm not very convinced because Pistols would allow you to throw each bag earlier due to their fast animations, saving a bunch of time after 18 bags... but I guess it can be nice and fun when just doing casual runs :D

@hackersource4634 Год назад

Didn't know about the first one. Very nice!

@Marcmb Год назад

Glad you liked that one Source, thank you very much :D

@Beginnerss Год назад

that arrow thing is genius! i never thought of it despite the bow being my main stealth weapon!

@Marcmb Год назад

Thank you very much Beginnerss, glad you liked that one tip :D For bow heisters like yourself, I feel like it's a great addition to your utility!

@lowkeystupidasf Год назад

1:32 Casino guard walking through a corridor with a 30 meter long blood stain: "Huh? Smeone must've spilled some uhhmmm champagne"

@Marcmb Год назад

Hahaha! And a lot of champagne for sure, because it went all the way from one elevator to the other! Clueless guards as usual :p

@MartianBuddy Год назад

Smart, thx for posting I need to get back to this game.

@Marcmb Год назад

Thank you MartianBuddy! Glad you liked these suggestions :) If you do return to heisting, I wish you luck! Feel free to ask, if you have any questions.

@moonmoon4537 Год назад

This is exactly the type of minmaxxing I look for in games. Thank you.

@Marcmb Год назад

Thanks a lot moonmoon! That is great to hear, and glad you liked the content :) much appreciated!

@jurekis9177 Год назад

Your knowledge amazes me with every video

@Marcmb Год назад

Thank you very much jurekis! Much appreciated :)

@roderik1990 Год назад

On the arrow tactic, that can also be done using shurikens, or the throwing cards. (javelin too, but you can't carry all that many of those)

@Marcmb Год назад

Very true yes! I didn't think about mentioning those because most of the time I use either Pocket ECMs, or molotovs. But if your build is compatible with throwing cards, that's a very good use for them!

@justiin2312 Год назад

that arrow trick is genius. i have no idea how i have so much time played and i've never thought of that

@Marcmb Год назад

Thank you very much Justiin! Glad you liked that :D

@ToppatClanCatOfficial 6 месяцев назад

"BRRRRRRRT" "Is everything alright?" "Yeah i think its just the radio."

@Marcmb 6 месяцев назад

Haha! The alarm should've gone off instantly, as soon as the pager activated and all you could hear were my pistols constantly blasting.

@ToppatClanCatOfficial 6 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb fr lmao i love payday logic for stuff like that

@4OnAGoodDay Год назад

if you want to use something else as a primary say a saw or something and still want to use the arrow trick to track keycards or loot or whatever, another thing i use in the same sense is javelin throwables but if you need more than 3, throwing knives and ninja stars also work the same way though a little harder to see due to their size

@Marcmb Год назад

Very true yes! I didn't think about mentioning those because most of the time I use either Pocket ECMs, or molotovs. But if your build is compatible with javelins (or throwing cards / knives / shurikens), that's a very good use for them!

@satapon148 Год назад

never think about bow before maybe back to using card/shuriken again but PECM is also handy after getting used to it. still love using car-4 as primary

@Marcmb Год назад

PCM is indeed so handy - extremely useful. The bow can be an excellent alternative for cards / shurikens in this case.

@burgeal Год назад

The Akimbo Heather SMGs are of special note for body pushing. 28 base concealment, 64 magazine, and stupidly fast reload. RoF isn't as nice though. The fire is crazy. I love Payday logic with silent grenades. Too bad I love my PCMs too much.

@Marcmb Год назад

Interesting! I personally settled for Akimbo Mark10 because of its insane magazine size and reasonable reload speed (also able to reach 3 DR with typical shotguns), but I might try the Heather for whenever I'm playing with Locomotive (less concealment). I'm writing this one down, thank you! :D

@MrBlueSky77 Год назад

I mean it was about time for me to choose a different weapon for stealth. Been using this Judge way too long hahah. Nice video man!

@Marcmb Год назад

Enjoy Mr. Blue Sky! Lots of fun applications with this variety of weapons :p Glad you liked this one!

@MrBlueSky77 Год назад

@@Marcmb yeaaa i did haha. Like i wasnt aware that you can move a corpse with raining fire on it haha. And marking down your objectives to remember with a bow is pure genius

@Marcmb Год назад

@@MrBlueSky77 The raining fire one is certainly one of the best tricks here :p

@MrBlueSky77 Год назад

@@Marcmb going to need an ammo bag from now on hahah

@Marcmb Год назад

@@MrBlueSky77 Haha fair! In some heists, the Ammo Bag asset that you can buy suddenly becomes very useful!

@bluec9151 9 месяцев назад

I actually find my self usually using the raven shotgun and some sort of high concealment pistol. The pistol is handy incase I’m fine with where the guard is and _don’t_ wanna fling a guard into where everyone can see them

@Marcmb 8 месяцев назад

Also excellent choices! The Raven looks very cool and is very good, and pistols are very good for this point you bring up, and also for the faster interactions :D

@reiokimura6519 Год назад

wow came out in 2023, glad I found this. So useful! Anyway, how are you able to rename so long? Mine couldn't and it's annoying

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey reio! I have no idea about the renaming, the only mod I have personally is PocoHUD... Glad you liked the video though, thank you! :D

@pinguin4898 9 месяцев назад

you can also use a throwable to mark thing on the map if you aren't using a bow/xbow

@Pustocvet Год назад

I am once again amazed by how well you know this game.

@Marcmb Год назад

:D Thank you very much Pustocvet! Glad you liked this new video :)

@filorvus6982 Год назад

You can also use playing cards throwable weapon to mark stuff. I remember back in the day i was throwing cards all over the body of insider girl in First World Bank, just to watch how she going around though walls, and then it hit me, i can mark anything i want with theese, haha. Only issue is a pickup radius, cards are pretty easy to grab back.

@Marcmb Год назад

@connorzarysky Год назад

for triggering sw you can use light crossbow with explosive bolts however it will damage you if you arent careful with spacing

@Marcmb Год назад

That is correct connor, yup! Its main benefit is its lower Unlock Level, meaning you can use it before HE Judges (while infamy farming). However, as you mention, its damage is absurdly high, and the reload isn't very friendly for rushing heists... so it's not very liked in general, sadly!

@thepanzerofthelake732 Год назад

"Hey so uh where's Jim?" "No clue, anyway have you seen that weird line of red stains with what seems to be bullet holes and shell casings in them near the vault?" "Yeah, our new janitors fucking suck if they screwed up that bad" "Yeah and did you hear what happened with that one bank the other day?" "Oh yeah what was it? Some dude shot arrows into every stack of paper?" "Yeah man, kinda like the one sticking outta that door."

@Marcmb Год назад

Clueless guards being clueless as usual :D It's nice that the long red carpet of blood isn't visible to the guards though, otherwise these weapons would be a lot less effective!

@Chrys0lis Год назад

For shadow raid keycards you can just find where it is before hand and then shoot the ceiling so you know exactly where to go

@Marcmb Год назад

That is very true yup! Good way to keep track of it from below, once you've found it. Although you still have to do the jumping for a while until you spot it - which you can just skip with the arrows!

@tarihimanyak9787 Год назад

When marc uploads its a good day.

@Marcmb Год назад

Thanks tarihi! Glad you liked this one :)

@valalphak Год назад

1:18 im sure any guards or civilians will doesnt care about blood through coridor with hundreds bullets on floor

@Marcmb Год назад

Haaha yup! They might be able to see it, but they surely don't wanna mess up with whoever left it there :p

@winster32 Год назад

any pistol with high damage, high concealment is also really really good as a secondary. White Streak, Baby Deagle and any kind of pistol that can one shot any enemy on any difficultly makes it for me. I use the white streak, alongside my KSG as my own stealth build.

@Marcmb Год назад

Pistols in general are extremely strong yup, especially because of their faster equip times (leading to faster interactions). For actually killing guards I prefer the Gecko or other shotguns (since the launch is so strong), but there's nothing wrong with pistols as an alternative!

@stormstudios1 Год назад

every guard is 1 tap in stealth damage doesnt matter

@Marcmb Год назад

@@stormstudios1 Only when they are alerted! After that, one-hit kills are still amazing to lower the chance of accidental gunfire, and to manage your arrest cooldown better!

@WeetZe Год назад

great info

@Marcmb Год назад

Thanks weetz! Glad this was useful :)

@Kris_thatgirlwhofckedahandbag 7 месяцев назад

You can also do 12:41 with ace of spade or a throwing knife (i usually use knofe because it alot cooler)

@Kris_thatgirlwhofckedahandbag 7 месяцев назад

Knofe

@Marcmb 7 месяцев назад

Very true yup! Those throwables are very good if you don't bring a Bow, although they also limit your perk deck considerably (no Hacker, and often no Yakuza). It's good to keep all the options in mind so you have the best combination for each heist!

@Kris_thatgirlwhofckedahandbag 7 месяцев назад

@@Marcmb I use burglar alot since I don't mind 1 pager waste with cam operators :D

@FiskuPL Год назад

Some of those are really genius. My favorite one are the arrow markers. I'll never fail ED again. Great video, as always!

@Marcmb Год назад

Glad the video helped Igor, thanks so much! Have fun with these unusual weapons :)

@The_ace-1233 Год назад

I love the Idea of a heister riddling a guard with bullets instead of just dragging the body a few feet lol

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha! We do what we can, with the tools that we have :p In PAYDAY3 it seems we'll be able to actually drag guards (while they're alive), and then move their corpses without body bags, which sounds neat!

@muaddib4378 8 месяцев назад

looks like the faster interactions may be out of date since they did a qol change so its now always instant

@Marcmb 8 месяцев назад

Are you sure? It might be some of your mods (there are mods to remove hidden interaction delays like the Bag Interaction Cooldown among others), because in vanilla I still need to re-equip my weapon after performing any interaction hmmm...

@muaddib4378 8 месяцев назад

im not using any mods. im vanilla did you actually go into the game and press the interaction key?@@Marcmb

@Marcmb 8 месяцев назад

Yes! I've been playing these last few days, and the interactions work the same as usual: when you finish an interaction (interacting with an object, or picking up a bag) the weapon animation plays, preventing you from starting any new interactions or sprints until this animation finishes. Are you sure you understand this concept? Because the interaction itself lasts for the same time, it's just that you're free to interact again earlier, leading to more interactions in less time.@@muaddib4378

@spartanellsworth2336 9 месяцев назад

The biggest shock for me was that the Commando launcher has a silent launch, lol

@marrio5040 10 месяцев назад

instead of bow you could also use cards if you dont want to run pocket ecm

@mefistofellchannel3534 Год назад

Wow I did not know that guys with minigun on stealth are samrter than me.

@Marcmb Год назад

Noooo not the minigun!! But everything else in the video is indeed a recommended stealth weapon :p

@diegomastro5681 Год назад

Just a shower thought, I'm dropping it here cause you are THE stealth guy. On midland ranch, can you open both termite doors to do both sides at the same time? Either by duping the termite or noclipping thru the door or something. Can both objectives be done or you need to finish one to start the other?

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey Diego! Excellent question. Under normal circumstances, this is not possible: you can only open one door at a time. However, if you could dupe the thermite, you might be able to open both at the same time! Unfortunately duping is a lot harder these days, so you would need a crew with a lot of patience for restarts :(

@hamstergabe Год назад

How the hell do guards hear a GRENADE go off and think "Oh, it's incendiary, nothing's wrong here!"

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha! Just PAYDAY logic, I guess :p I would also expect them to be louder, but as long as it's incendiary, it just takes the fire alert range, which is a measly 15m :D

@spkoftdvl Год назад

1:40 Almot 3k game hrs and I never knew I can do this on the game, damn! Thanks Marc! One question, is there any mod that changes the weather/day/night on the maps that works on the client side too?

@Bazzokapho Год назад

I knew you could move corpse like that but it never occurred to me that using akimbo smgs/auto-pistols would give such drastic results.

@Marcmb Год назад

Glad I could show this to you GVZ! Have fun with this unusual mechanic :D As for your question, I've never heard of any 'time of day' mods that would also affect what the clients see, but I'll ask Jav if he knows whether this is possible or not!

@Marcmb Год назад

@@Bazzokapho Indeed! Controlling the ragdolls is already possible with shotguns / ARs, but it's so much better with these weapons :D Glad you liked that!

@spkoftdvl Год назад

@@Marcmb amazing, thanks Marc! Still waiting for the Scarface ECM Rush 😎

@Marcmb Год назад

@@spkoftdvl :D Soon soon! There are 3 others I want to publish before Scarface (assuming Takeover doesn't get updated priority), but already in a couple weeks one of those 3 will be up!

@Melted_TF Год назад

Ever since I got the DLC, I’ve practically always used the AS VAL, along with the Judge obviously

@Marcmb Год назад

Nice! The Val is a nice choice for stealth, I don't see it often but it's neat because it comes silenced by default :D

@ThisIsNoir Год назад

The next guard in that ggc heist wondering why tf there's a long blood trail across the hall

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha yup! But somehow he didn't question it :D

@pyroparagon8945 Год назад

>intro >many heisters pick any shotgun >shows a gun that isn't a shotgun Looking forward to this video

@Marcmb Год назад

:) Hope you liked some of the recommendations in this video, pyro!

@Terminarch Год назад

Ah, classic gaming. Can't carry 2 keycards at the same time but can phase through solid floors to pick them up >.>

@Marcmb Год назад

PAYDAY 2 logic once again yup :p at this point, I wouldn't be surprised by anything!

@hugoishii9783 Год назад

hi! i saw your video of how to grind levels by beating murky station, and you was hacking the terminals very fast, like 5 seconds, but i take 10 seconds to hack, did you use some skill or perk deck that i don't know?

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey Hugo! Very simple answer: I do indeed interact four times faster than usual (2.5s per panel instead of 10s) - it's an option you can enable from your inventory. Basically, I have my BOTS equipped with the QUICK upgrade. Go to inventory, from there check "Crew Setup", and equip them with the "QUICK" boost. For every bot present in the lobby (up to 3), your interaction times get cut down by 25%.

@MetaKnightPwnr Год назад

What is the mod you are using to see the AOE of the molotovs and incendiaries you throw?

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey MetaKnight! That is 'Unambiguous Molotovs', enjoy! :) modworkshop.net/mod/31396

@Finppa 11 месяцев назад

I've played this game for over 9+ years and only now learned to move bodies (desecrate them) by shooting them to a more suitable place, lmao

@Marcmb 11 месяцев назад

Ooh a true veteran! Hope you enjoyed the video Finppa, and glad I could teach you just one new thing :D

@potatoman7594 Год назад

chains: empties 3 full mags into a dead guys body 2 seconds later:"not much going on over here man"

@Marcmb Год назад

And for some reason no one cares about the blood carpet either :D

@tiredboi9027 Год назад

im new to stealth. i didnt even think to bring a shotgun, i have just been using a pistol because silenced pistol = stealthy

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha! I think we all started right there, no worries :) Definitely start looking into shotguns though - they are amazing for stealth!

@LAZER_Underscore Год назад

arrow marking possibly replaced wioth shrikens/throwing knives or the best 21 playing cards

@Marcmb Год назад

@Zachaboom 10 месяцев назад

Hey marcmb! Would you mind dropping the name of the sight at 3:11? Thanks in advance!

@Gesomaru. Год назад

Guards logic: 2 full mags worth of bullet holes with an obvious path that definitely doesn't lead to a body: "Everything is alright control" 1 tiny glass shard: "OH SHIT A THIEF"

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha yup! Just one of those things that doesn't make much sense, because the game is so old :p PAYDAY 2 Logic!

@whoman0385 Год назад

*puts more holes into guard than spongebob has* "yeah nothing really going on here, i just dropped the pager dont worry about it"

@Marcmb Год назад

"Just some background noise I'm sure, no worries!"

@ajuanjojj Год назад

TheKknowley yesterday: just use the judge there's basically no equal Marcmb: Hold my beer Specially liked the bow one :P On another note, opinion on bringing a primary shotgun alongside the gecko for intimidation?

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha nice! I haven't had a chance to watch the new Kknowley video (been really busy lately), but I'm gonna watch that soon! As for your question, that is indeed a solid loadout. The Gecko is great for its concealment, and will fulfill the role of faster interactions. Its downsides are no intimidation, and being unable to quickly open doors with one shot: so a primary shotgun is a perfect partner for this! Of course you can also consider other primaries like those showcased here, but shotguns are a solid choice as well.

@Man_with_Shotgun 4 месяца назад

What guns do you recommend for new players and what guns were you using for primary and secondary

@Marcmb 3 месяца назад

Hey Cheese! I recently made a STEALTH BUILD video for beginners, where I recommended the best weapons (and weapon mods) for general stealth builds (primary and secondary). Here's a timestamped link! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UsSTQep5erU.html

@RealYella Год назад

out of curiosity, did you test if ovka lowers time between interacts too?

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey RealYella! I did not test Overkill Aced unfortunately because most builds nowadays don't have points to afford it, but I did test the +320% Swap Speed from the Copycat perk deck, which did not speed up the time inbetween interactions. (we can assume same for ovka, most likely)

@h3llcruizzer739 Год назад

Can you tell me which weapon I can use to kill [redacted] on HoxRev from spawn for 50 sec ECM rush? Jokes aside, very informative and creative video with a lot of food for thought!

@Marcmb Год назад

That would be great for XP! Shame that it can't be done :p Glad you liked this video h3ll, enjoy some of these weapon alternatives, especially the faster interactions in ECM rushing!

@fiyahquacker2835 Год назад

If it was possible then the desert fox sniper or that newer secondary sniper but mainly the desert fox would be best since imo it has the best balance of power, mag size in case you miss and concealment along with decent accuracy. Concealment can get to 23 or 24 and the dmg can 1 shot alerted gangsters on any part of the body while the the lower dmg snipers take 1 shot head shot on alerted gangsters and 2 shot anywhere else.

@AnanasIsAtYourDoorstep Год назад

the best primary is obviously the one that excels at sniping the plant pots

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey there Enio! Sniping the plant pots is indeed very useful on all heists, can't deny that :p Although doing that with melee is so satisfying! You get a better sound, after all :D

@HENLOX Год назад

1:18 ah yes slightly

@Marcmb Год назад

Hahaha! Yup, just very very slightly! :D

@0xGenesiSx0 6 месяцев назад

what gun did you used in the 'Wall penetration" part?

@Marcmb 6 месяцев назад

Hey Genesis! That was the 5/7 Pistol, which you can buy as a secondary weapon (part of the base game I believe, no DLC).

@cabir.bin.hayyan.800 Год назад

How can you see molotof hitboxes/circles? Edit: Nice video by the way, thanks for sharing.

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey SCP! For those clips with the red molotov circles, I was using a mod called 'Unambiguous Molotovs'. You can find it on the Modworkshop by searching this exact name! Glad you liked the video :)

@purple-tiedemployee1858 Год назад

Hi Marcmb, I was wondering with the Akmibo STRYK, I couldnt automatic fire it, so i just end up spamming my mouse inefficiently, do you need to install a mod for that? Thanks.

@purple-tiedemployee1858 Год назад

Hi! Fixed it, vanillahudplus disabled it

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey Purple! Glad you were able to solve this by yourself, because I had no idea. VanillaHUD+ had the same issue in the past with the Akimbo Judges... very weird that it keeps messing up weapons.

@WonkOfWonkyness Год назад

I am lucky to have learnt today that you can grab keycards for shadow raid THROUGH THE FLOOR?!

@Marcmb Год назад

Nice, you're absolutely welcome Soviet! Glad that tip helped :D

@WonkOfWonkyness Год назад

@@Marcmb It helped A LOT. I do shadow raid alot and it's one of my favorite heists. This makes me have a much bigger playing field when trying to open the safe solo. Thank you SO MUCH!

@Tech.824 11 месяцев назад

The five seven is ass because if it’s armor pen ability, a bullet to kill a guard could go through the guard and the wall behind him resulting to break a glass messing up your run ( especially in the Elefant Collectionner heist)

@Marcmb 11 месяцев назад

Hey Tech! Of course you would only use it _for its armor pen,_ it's a bonus not a downside. You use it when you need the wall pen, but you always keep the risks in mind, and remove it when it's too risky. Don't just mindlessly use it like a regular pistol though, that would be dumb!

@tjones9097 5 месяцев назад

I use the cavity 9mm as my main, and the judge as my secondary, because judge.

@Marcmb 5 месяцев назад

Classic combination yup! Cavity and Judge, always a good choice :)

@muaddib4378 Год назад

im very tired and im trying to do these things but at 2:35 how are you reloading so fast so at the start you said many use shotgun forgeting about primary. i use a tempest rifle because good concealment and i use it to shoot and intimidate civs with noise which is a thing you didnt talk about... but most bank heists your crew will just kill all civs with no consequence. but that stockholm skill may be a little incorrect with the 50% longer maybe do a video on stuff that is misleading im considering swapping it out for a ragdoll pushing weapon.

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey muaddib! Loud primaries for Stockholm Syndrome are indeed a very good choice, but they aren't "Underrated" nor "Uncommon" (since they are very common for heists like GO Bank), so I decided to not mention them here because of the video title! As for the fast reload at 2:35, I have the AI perk that increases reload speed (Accelerator), and also I equipped the weapon with a 'Speed Pull Mag', for faster reloads.

@absolutelynobody8465 Год назад

what's the application of a rocket launcher? Also that arrow trick is genius

@felipegallardo6190 Год назад

It's still considered stealth if nobody is alive to see you

@IAmNotConnie Год назад

Aggressively rushing Big Oil day 1. VERY aggressively.

@Marcmb Год назад

Hahah! The rocket launcher is extremely dangerous (that's why I highlighted it in red when it showed up), but I would not recommend it for any co-op heists (friendly fire can be dangerous...). As *@pixelkatana* said, one of the best applications is Big Oil stealth, because it's often done with ECMs and it's all about killing all the gangsters in any way.

@a.person1805 Год назад

I commented about it before, but I'm still liking the under 40 damage stryk! Even if it doesn't actually reset guard arrest attempts, some time to re-position myself to launch them better is cool

@Marcmb Год назад

Very good point yup! Especially in some pacifist ECM rushes, having a weapon with sub-40 damage is excellent. Plus the regular STRYK is great too for faster interactions (pistol equip time) and also has great RoF. Solid weapon choice!

@Zpixi09 Год назад

I normally pick broomstick pistol crossbow or a saw

@Marcmb Год назад

Broomstick is an excellent choice yup! The pistol crossbow can be used for Second Wind in some scenarios, although it has so much damage!

@xdarin_ Год назад

That's totally not a blood trail, that's just a trail from someone drenched head to toe in tomato juice.

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha that must be it! Someone making tomato juice in the Staff Only area... at least the other guards don't complain!

@PolandDoge Год назад

With the mimic perk deck the weapon switch speed is ridicioulus from what i remember

@Marcmb Год назад

That is correct yup! Copycat gives an insane +320% weapon swap speed, although sadly it does not seem to have any effect in the time between interactions :(

@agent1415 Год назад

now i need ammo bag on stealth👍

@Marcmb Год назад

Very true yup! Many heists offer the option to buy an Ammo Bag asset for very cheap, so suddenly that's a lot more interesting than it used to be!

@Viorellx Год назад

Ive noticed if a bullet goes through someone then hits glass it doesnt break or make noise

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey ishutoody! If it's a single bullet it will only shatter the glass (no noise), but if you do it twice, then the glass should break as expected!

@robosuit Год назад

For marking objectives, could you not just use a throwable like the playing cards instead?

@melikeham4860 Год назад

You could, but the pecm uses the throwable slot, and is generally always better.

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey robosuit! It's just as *@melikeham* said yup. You can absolutely do that, and it will work in the same way, but there are generally better throwables, sadly!

@teertaa Год назад

Does the custom floating markers work with airbow and other crossbows too?

@Marcmb Год назад

It will work with any bow yes! As long as the fired arrows stay on the ground, waiting to be picked back up.

@mcawesome9705 Год назад

3:00 free tip: at low DR and at that distance, cameras will take longer to detect you while standing compared to crouching

@Marcmb Год назад

Interesting tip! I would've expected it to be about the same, because the 'multipliers' for detection are the same for standing / crouching criminals (for non-civilian detectors such as cameras), so the only difference would be a slight change in the distance-and-angle modifier. Do you have a source for this tip, or is it just personal experience? Thanks in advance McAwesome!

@mcawesome9705 Год назад

@@Marcmb my sources for this are the long guide, as well as personal experience (though I haven't played in some time) from what I get, detection rate multipliers affect only the minimum detection time, but for cameras it is insanely high, and since having low DR increases it, it can go past the maximum detection time. crouching might not affect the detection time directly, however, it does affect the camera's detection range. if you enter a camera's range while crouched, the time it'd take for you to get detected is around the maximum detection time. but if you stand up right after entering, you are suddenly no longer at the edge, meaning the time taken will be somewhere between min and max. usually, that time is lower, but due to the above, it can end up being higher for cameras.

@Marcmb Год назад

@@mcawesome9705 Very interesting! I've always assumed _minimum_ detection delay would be smaller than _maximum_ detection delay, so I have no idea of how the 'distance-and-angle' parameter does the linear interpolation between the two when minimum becomes larger than maximum. It does make sense though that it will interpolate from 'minimum' to 'maximum', leading to "closer range" (which is generally worse) being better instead. Actually I just did some tests and that 3:00 Diamond Store camera detects me in 5.12s while standing, but 4.95s while crouching, so this is indeed factual even though the difference is small!

@mcawesome9705 Год назад

@@Marcmb I'd assume the interpolation is always the same, with closer/more visible being closer to the minimum and further/less visible being closer to the maximum. For me, the most interesting part is that when you walk toward a camera, you can visibly see the detection rate slowing down.

@fardass3535 Год назад

i use the maxim 9/judge with the grom sniper primary modded so i can get 3 detection risk with a 5 foot sniper rifle painted neon pink

@Marcmb Год назад

Haha nice! The Grom is a fantastic choice after all, completely understandable :p

@chomusucke192 Год назад

How do you do max zerk with yakuza using fire? I usually have a small chunk of health left, be it with AI or other players

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey chomusucke! I have a video demonstrating it in detail here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-89XAtHjQMvg.html But basically assuming you have Frenzy basic (not ace), take 4 fire ticks, then 2 fire ticks. That should leave you with 0.4 health!

@fabiorutichelli7006 3 дня назад

With the faster interactions would rhe judge count as a pistol or a shotgun?

@Clarkuff Год назад

What's that shotgun you are using for stealth? Seems a little more useful than the judge

@Marcmb Год назад

Hey Clarkuff! I personally use the Locomotive 12G (as shown in my 'Saw build' video): it has better magazine capacity and reload (which is great), but its damage is lacking, so for it to work well you need either Tombstone rounds (poison status), or the Frenzy skill (which is commonly used in saw / Yakuza builds).

@Clarkuff Год назад

Isn't it 1 shot regardless in stealth? And do you need frenzy or just berserker?

@Marcmb Год назад

@@Clarkuff Hey Clarkuff! Sorry I missed this reply. It's 1 shot if the enemy has not been alerted yup, but once the enemy has been alerted that's when damage matters. - Berserker basic is enough for saw damage (if you have molotovs). - Berserker ace is then good for ranged weapons as well. - Frenzy (basic) is great for heists where you can't safely molotov, and also to unlock the best Yakuza threshold, which is 0.4 health left after a specific combination of fire ticks.

@derpiestderp325 Год назад

ngl I was expecting the grenade launchers not to be considered as silenced...

@Marcmb Год назад

That would make sense! But it is PAYDAY, after all :p As long as you're using the incendiary rounds, the alert range is reduced to 15m only! (usual fire noise range)