Top 6 Pokémon who Evolve into WORSE Type Combinations 

you gotta blame the Pokémon type-chart! Bug and Ice types are trash, and will always be on their own. They need more resistance(s)

@@melhadow Or combine Bug with Steel.

​@@jeffreygao3956Bug/Fairy?

@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Not quite as good.

Thats a missed opportunity on Nintendo's part imo

The problem with Bellosom is Sunflora and Meganium (as are both their lines) are also pure Grass and thus more redundancy. As we've seen from the magnitude of pure Normal, Normal/Flying, and Water types redundancy means that most of those types rarely get used. And in general, grass was kind of weak in Gen 2 since you either had to wait until Kanto to make sure to get a Leaf Stone or you had to win a Sun Stone (and chikorita is usually considered the worst starter of the 3 in Gen 2).

@@jcohasset23: From an entirely modern perspective, sure, but back when Gen-2 was new the novelty of having so many pure grass types to choose from was a refreshing contrast to Gen-1 which only had Tangela.

Slowbro and slowking are both water psychics from the same family which only difference is they get their defenses swapped. Charizard and typhlosion are fire starters that have the exact same stat distribution. Redundancy is not the problem here

@@shujinkoMK Charizard is Fire/Flying so it is different from Typhlosion, which I guess for Gen 2 they were trying to keep the starter lines pure to be more different from the Gen 1 starter lines. As for Slowking I think it was just made so there would be 6 Gen 2 pokemon that have to be traded to be attained and outside of more uncommon fights Slowbro is more common to use. Slowking really should have just been given a different typing, though without changing its design I'm not sure what.

@Hsiao Hsu Alot of moves were either not put in or removed from Pla. So Togekiss not getting Aura Sphere is understandable.

He's talking more about the typing itself, not things like movepools. Togekiss is a great Pokemon regardless of it's typing.

Exactly; I SAID Togekiss was a good Pokemon, but that it didn't make good use of its typing. Also learning a move in the final form does nothing to help Togetic, so it's still in a worse spot all the way until you find a Shiny Stone...

@@emperorcubone I don’t think Togekiss would be as good if it didn’t have a Fairy/Flying type combination, as it’s able to fulfill an amazing defensive role as something that’s immune to both Dragon and Ground, which in and of itself is good, but its added resistances and immunities far outweighs the negative Even offensively, Togekiss gets Air Slash stab, which is incredible for it Although Fairy/Flying is flawed, I think it’s better than pure Fairy

Togekiss often doesn’t use any fairy stab. It’s immune to dragon, but doesn’t contribute anything in a dragon MU besides an immunity. The fairy/flying typing does give it a good resistance in fighting, but it also adds two more weaknesses.

You know, an earthworm would be a genius way to do that!

This needs to happen. Note : Diglett doesn't count as a worm, does it? It just looks like one.

@@isaiaholaru5013 Diglett and Alolan Diglett are classified as moles, and the new Wigglett is classified as a garden eel. Spoilers (tho you might know this by now): There is in fact an earthworm pokemon in SV. But somehow it is not bug nor is it even a ground type. It is still cool tho.

@@nightfrostbreeze earth Eater is still cool tho.

Yeah, and Psychic was still very strong in Gen 2, as well. There were two new Psychic type Legends with Lugia and Celebi, only one (rather weak) new Ghost type was added, Dark was somehow made a special type that totally conflicted with Tyranitar (while most Psychic types back then had better Special Defense), the other Dark types and most Bug types still weren't very powerful, and the only attack super effective against Psychic with more than 80 base power was at the time a signature move. Your options were basically Gengar with Shadow Ball or Heracross with Megahorn.

​@@CompuclesI've heard people say that Snorlax was the king of Gen 2, but Mismagius was the queen, mostly because it was a pure ghost-type.

@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 It would be if it evolved back in gen 2.

Wow, trainer class runs actually sound pretty fun! Just be a hiker with Geodude and Onix. Or I guess the fisherman with the 6 Magikarp...

@@emperorcubone I've decided that whenever I play a remake, I'll be picking one. It shouldn't ever be a monotype run (after all, a Hiker can absolutely use a Machop), but it's a way to shake things up. I didn't get BDSP, but whenever Black3/White3 hit, I'll be looking at the challenge again!

THERE SHOULD BE 2 S'S IN BELLOSSOM!

@@Amelia4111 Jeez, what a spelling police.

@@Amelia4111 it should be spelled bellawesome

Lord @Bidoof has spoken. Bellawesome it is

Psychis type

But it's not like it's evolving out of a good combo. Rock/Ground is also terrible.

@@cyberdragonzekrom6790 I agree with you that Rock/Ground isn’t much better. But Rock/Dark is objectively worse. So much so that there’s still not another Pokémon with that type combo.

@@SpiegelmanSzn id say rock ground is worse then rock dark because you have 1 4x weakness as opposed to 2

In what universe is ground rock better?

I can’t stand normal type Pokémon. Even though, having only one weakness is a ‘superpower’ and a boon; I do enjoy the bizarre typings, and have only had one pure normal type level 100, Kangaskhan. Normal/flying is just way too common a pairing for the most part (even though I use them like mad.) But, you’re definitely right about it getting more weaknesses.

Think the main reason for them being on the list was the fact they don't make good use of their typing...of course they're great mons they just suck at making the best out their typing

Ironically, superpower is a move that crushes most normal types

Yup

Getting STAB Air Slash with Serene Grace, giving it a 60% chance to flinch both opposing Pokémon is pretty great, too.

Its also apparently shorter than oddish too

Its also prettier and less smelly XD

That's how i mega evolve into a fodder necromorph

I realized it sounded like that when all was said and done, but in reality Flying is in my top 5 favorite types! It can just be hard to counter those weaknesses; you need a solid type for it, like Ground!

It also adds a quad resistance to ANOTHER incredibly useful offensive type as an added bonus.

"Having a safe way to switch in on ground types..." not entirely. Even though it's not STAB (unless they're also part Rock), almost every ground type has access to Stone Edge/Rock Slide.

Thank you! I do try to pick appropriate musical accompaniment...

Haha, well thank you! I greatly appreciate the support. :)

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Rock/Ice is so bad, I love Avalugg and I'm glad it got attention, but boy was it not in their favor...

Well I did make All Pokemon dual types in a series, but honestly most of the time Pokemon with two types deserve them. I guess there's not much Normal about Helioptile. As for changing them I would likely prioritize typings we don't have yet, like making Runerigus Ghost/Rock instead of Ground...

I bet they never even told you the tragedy of Darth Palgueis the wise...

I just say it like I say cicada, but I guess people don't make the connection? Oh there are 100% canon pronunciations, but it doesn't help when Pokemon goes with both "Man-TEEN" and Man-TINE."

Uh, I believe you're mistaken, every Pokemon is dual typed, and even some are triple typed... Ooh, or the worst of every type?

@@emperorcubone they mean pure type

@@emperorcubone The worst of every type.. Lolll thats really simple for Normal... its either Unown or Ditto (I think Ditto, since it can only learn Transform).

@@nickdentoom1173 unown is psychic type. And ditto is really cool

Exactly; if you have to wait until a Shiny Stone, it's not that great. And I'd give you Roost, if it weren't a TM. I can't believe even in Gen 7 Togetic got NO levelup Flying moves...

It's funny, because in theory Carkol is the same, but it's just not; pure Fire is in a much better spot than pure Rock, so adding Fire to Rolycoly isn't nearly as detrimental...

@@emperorcubone plus coalossal has that typing balanced by its stats and ability

EmperorCubone tends to intentionally exclude the Pokemon seen in the thumbnail as to not spoil what's actually on the list

The typing does make it a glass cannon against Ground and Water but the biggest problem with Magcargo is it evolves way too late to be useful (lvl 38). In comparison in Gen 2 everything with Slugma's base 250 stat evolves at 18 (Azurill and Hoppip), 22 (Spinarak), and 33 (Piloswine, which was also too late to be useful in Gen 2).

Sure, but as I said, the number of Pokemon that Fly in Hoenn without actually being Flying is absurd, so they didn't need to change type to be airborne...

@@emperorcubone It sure would be stronger if they didn't... But cicadas really do get frailer and then shortly die after being durable and living for years underground, the real animals I mean, same with mayflies. Become frailer, weaker to predators mate and die. I feel the bug/flying reflects the reality. Also cicadas and mayflies are strong flying animals that feel they have an emphasis on 'flying' in real life. Because it reflects and respects real world biology I like it personally. Still want a separate fully evolved powerful Bug/Ground.

Their typings of Ground and Water, also matches the box legendaries of Ruby and Sapphire, Groudon and Kyorge. Them both losing those typings and becoming flying-types when evolving may be reference to Rayquaza a flying type is the strongest of the trio.

THE K IN NINCADA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A C! FIX IT NOW!

Gyarados should have been the OG Water/Dragon instead of Kingdra

That's true, and even then the Psychic coverage would really only be useful against the Fighting, since Poison seemed a bit rare in Alola, at least compared to Kanto...

To be fair, most base stages aren't that useful on their own through the whole game, but it is a shame...

Isn't it crazy that Rock used to be a "defensive" type?

Yeah, if I were to choose between the 2 I would choose I pure electric considering electrics 1 weakness

That's harder than it sounds, most things will always find some detractors...

And Meganium too.

I always thought Vulpix should have gained the Psychic type upon Evo to Ninetales, as it does learn a good number of Psychic moves

I always thought ninetails should have been ghost given it's lore

@@TlocRevelc Yes, a Fire/Ghost type would have been absolutely perfect with its lore. That's another common proposal of mine for fixing type balancing while remaining firmly _within_ the confines of gen 1, as well as making Marowak a Ground/Ghost.

@@daninda1665 Fairy (because it's a yokai, same reasoning as Mawile getting the Fairy type) or Ghost (due to its Pokedex entries and association with curses) would both make a lot more sense than Psychic. Most committed special attackers get some Psychic type moves, actually, including almost every ghost or fairy.

Water or Electric would’ve made it completely broken in Gen 1 though

@@sardonicprincess True! Although perhaps it wouldn’t have relied as much on its ‘Wrap-shenanigans’ at least

I don't strictly NOT take them, and that is a good idea, so perhaps I will do it after Gen 9 comes out!

One problem: Plenty of aquatic animals either are not easily poisoned or actually use poison. Lion fish, sea urchins, sea snakes, some starfish, some octopuses, and pufferfish.

I agree, I found it strange that the sun stone existed for the longest time and what does it do? Make grass pokemon more grass like? I'm pretty sure we have a stone for that already. I'm personally believe when a pokemon uses the sun stone to evolve, it needs to embody an aspect of the sun. Bellosom is reminiscent of a hula dancer so it should have a secondary fire typing Sunflora could have a secondary electric typing as a nod to solar panel energy harvesting linked with the iconic sunflower

@@crazyand2099 see, ghost bug that hovers without levitate. And this one wouldn't be a gimmick!

Only rock/ghost is missing

but masquerain isn't a ghost, it cannot be a ghost type

@@babel_UV ghost type don't necessarily need to be spirit. Ghost can be supernatural being. Like decieye ( Alola owl starter) he ghost grass even thought he isn't dead.

@@Watch-0w1 well he's kinda dead as he represents an extinct owl, but it doesnt make sense on masquerain

Right, it's been a thing since Gen 1 so I don't know why it would be a problem to do it with a Water type. I mean even Goldeen gets to float for no reason!

Maybe, but then people wouldn't like "it" just the fact that they could kill stuff really easily so early in the game. If it wasn't until the late game in Paldea people wouldn't like it in that game...

You can get it earlier in Ultra Sun and moon I think. I may be thinking of VikaVolt

IT'S CRABOMINABLE, NOT CRABOMNIBLE!

Maybe, but counter; they've been using the sun their whole lives to eat with photosynthesis, so what's the difference?

@@emperorcubone But some Pokedex entries say that oddish grows with moonlight and it learns moonlight by level up and not synthesis

@@emperorcubone but going with your point, there are Pokémon who live in power plants that need a Thunderstone to evolve and Pokémon who live in water that need Waterstones. I know it's specific to to Gloom losing the dual typing, but maybe it's a concentrated burst of energy within the stones?

there are people that actually like this hideous eyesore? u do u....i guess

@@fishfox just because you find it ugly doesn’t make it bad especially since its phenomenal on trick room teams

@@PHiLLy2c i never said it was bad in battle...ice fighting is great offensively and i have used it in sun/moon before, off the top i can only think of froslass and tentacruel resisting the stab still, no denying it's horribly ugly

Sure, but Togepi is from Johto, and even then a bunch of them that show up there don't learn Poison moves, like Zubat...

@@emperorcubone well we haven't had a gen two remake with fairy yet so Togi change is safe from to over used gen one pokemon stuffed into Johto for now. After Gen one the poison type was lucky to see five new guys per game. I'm sure Gamefreak realized how overly Poisoned Kanto was and cut back on them for every region after. I'd love a HGSS remake with fairy included but then I also fear the third gym.

Yeah, I hope Rookidee will make them a little less shy about making pure Flying types in the future...

Yeah, I don't play competitive. This was largely looking at the types in a vacuum...

Yeah but when it was introduced in Gen 2 Togetic was a special attacker that had only physical moves (and physical stab) thus with a Normal/Flying the player was better off just training a Pidgey or Spearow. Fairy type is good for the line as it actually makes it stand out from all the Normal/Flying pokemon there already were by Gen 6.

Oh, you know that's actually a really high contender! Rock did not help Avalugg...