In that same alternate universe though, the Shockmaster gimmick would have been worth enough $ for Disney/Lucasfilm to sue him into oblivion for violating their IP.
Shockmaster's entrance was the funniest moment in wrestling history, it never gets old. So many subtle things were hilarious, falling down, the helmet coming off, Booker T and Davey Boy making fun of them, Ole Anderson laughing and Fred pointing at the wrong time. Sid did a great job staying in character and trying to sell Shockmaster as if nothing happened. I keep imagining the Benny Hill music playing as he falls through the wall.
For me the funniest (and most disturbing) moments in wrestling don't have anything to do with that moment lol. AWA ran an episode and forgot to put on the audience track. All the talk between the wrestlers in the ring was clear and precise. Illustrious Johnny Stewart was wrestling someone who I can't remember at the moment. He told his opponent "now, break the hold and make it look good". The whole show was like that. Other moment that stand out were the debut of the Cougar Wrestling table called PMS, the Birth of a hand from Mae Young and the Katie Vick thing. Oh, we won't even go into Crazy Victoria wrestling in a shower cap, bathrobe and bunny slippers lol. Wrestling has had it's share of bizarre moments throughout the years lol.
Did the zombie thing ever get explained? In my head I am thinking it would be Vince mocking ECW, then Sandman gets pissed off and stops the bs. But did it even have a set up at all? Or any context? Then I have no idea what they thought...
@@otaking3582 It's a PG-13 movie of a R rated franchise known for its gore and insane fatalities. It failed at a very basic level. It's a mediocre at best movie that completely misses the point of the franchise. People only give it any praise because of nostalgia, and this is one of the cases where the nostalgia argument holds any water.
To be fair, I've read that WCW had to drop the Seven gimmick because they faced a lot of backlash and allegations over pedophilia because of the vignettes with the kid. I think spending all that money and effort on the swerve might've just been a Russo thing. Promo that Dustin cuts is still one of my favourites tho ugh
The Liam Machine I heard WCW had to drop the gimmick because it was too close to the Golddust gimmick and WWF threatened a lawsuit over copyright infringement.
golongusa I heard it was it was more of a dig at WWE and them having Dustin be Goldust....it was there way of telling the fans that WWE fucked up by making a great wrestler like Dustin play a character like Goldust
In one of his interviews with Austin, Taker said that he actually was terrified that he was going to be the one that they planned to come out of the egg, so he was desperately thinking of ideas about what the hell he was supposed to do with that.
The Shockmaster influenced one of my favourite RPG characters. Shocklord, a Wrestler in the post apocalypse. Whose actual only attack is botching his entrance.
Ezekiel Elliot #BuckeyesNation #LostMyShoe It would, but the character is actually insanely strong and when you get him he does about 1500 damage per hit, which is a lot. And he hits every single enemy. The only downside is that he only has an accuracy of 70%.
I remember watching those Glacier vignettes and thinking this guy was gonna be AWESOME. Instead, we got Sub Zero's much lamer cousin. 'When your opponent is a creepy pantsless maverick, you're off to a bad start.' Indeed.
Fred Ottman said in an interview that his debut as the Shockmaster did have two flaws. First, the mask didn't allow much vision. However he said that could have been no problem except for the second thing. They gimmicked the wall to break easier, but not only didn't gimmick the 2×4 support, they didn't even tell him it was there. He said they told him to make one good push and he'd be through. He pushed, and promptly tripped on the support.
And the Gladiators won the NWA tag titles, then beat the Road Warriors at Starrcade in a unification match (Warriors international belts were on the line). Then they turned face and spent all of 1988 feuding with the Horsemen and Midnight Express before the Warriors took the belts in an extended squash match.
That ECW Zombie clip gets me everytime, that compared with the one-two punch of your pronunciation of The Gobbledy Gooker almost made me lose my lunch from laughing so hard. Man I love this channel.
The worst thing about the Shockmaster debut was that it wasn't even Fred Ottman's fault. No one had told him that there was a 2x4 one foot off of the ground below the breakable wall. That's what he tripped over when he went through the wall. The bad timing during the promo and the bad voice over by Ole Anderson would not have damaged the character that much.
I mean he had a storm trooper helmet that was painted in glitter. Even without all that hilariousness he probably wouldn't of got over...... Unless he popped out of a box. Cornette said anyone that bust out of a box is instantly over.
@@josephmckee3342 In hindsight, I agree on that point. He probably wouldn't have got over with the crowd, but at least the fall wasn't his fault. Ottman himself looks back on it and laughs. He could have been a Dungeon of Doom member with that gimmick. It would have been better than becoming a construction worker.
I remember I didn't see the Survivor Series, but I was dying to know what was in the egg. Then my cousin told me it was some stupid turkey, and I thought he was bullshitting me.
Seven would have worked people were pumped about it at the time but they didn't even give it a one week chance before killing it off. I talked to Dustin about it in Puerto Rico back in 2006 and he had said he helped come up with the elaborate design for it and he was also disappointing they dumped it and ended up doing nothing with him the rest of his time there.
beaver cleaveage! that could have replaced phantasio who only appeared on one episode of challenge with zero build. they built beaver for weeks with vignettes and he came out to dead air. undoubtedly, a stupid russo creation.
Fandango had one of the worst. They billed him like he was the second coming of Stone Cold with all those weird video packages (which honestly, due to my not watching NXT at the time, made me think that "Fandango" was a WWE dancing show that would supposedly rival DWTS) and when he debuted, he did about as much as a guy who the average viewer would expect from the guy dancing around the ring dressed in an extremely flamboyant costume. Gotta hand it to Johnny Curtis for rolling with it and trying his best to make it work, though.
Lol, Fandango had near Shinsuke Nakamura levels of support, with people constantly singing his theme EVEN WHEN HE WASN'T IN THE MATCH. One amazing episode is when the crowd just went ballistic chanting random stuff and one of the main things they kept chanting was Fandango's theme.
Seven's entrance was absolutely awesome and terrifying. It probably wouldn't have worked in the end, but it certainly had the potential to be a pretty cool Undertaker equivalent for WCW.
Z-Man, I swear this channel has easily become one of my new favorites. I've only just rekindled my love of professional wrestling a few months ago, and it's content like yours that really helped get me back into it all. I'm glad I could help get you one tiny step closer to 100K subs, you deserve every one of them Mr. Zane, keep up the good work!
The Goddledygooker's debut was also detrimental to Roddy Piper's "bad@$$ anti-hero" persona that some fans seem to think he did better than Stone Cold. On commentary, during the 'Gooker's debut doing...whatever he was doing...Piper was exclaiming, "Oh, the kids are lovin' this!" with forced, fake laughter that would make even Michael Cole cringe. "He was being sarcastic!" No. No, he was doing what the script told him.
+eJs It's a bit more complicated Mark had done house shows as Cane the Undertaker and was booked as Brother Love's surprise wrestler in a match against the Harts and others. A member of the Hart Family had just died and the 'taker might have been seen as insensitive. they thought of switching him with Guerrero or have Mark wrestle dressed identically to Brother Love. But Bret and Owen said keep it as planned so Undertaker made his TV debut.
I recently watched the whole Yeti fiasco on the WWE Network (only $9.99!) and the oddest part to me was it was barely even acknowledged or explained. Okay, sure, the mummy man is a yeti, that's odd enough, but it was barely a flash in the pan and was never heard of, or mentioned, ever again.
11:29 - 11:41 Not only that, but at least the Shockmaster's botched debut was an accident. The Gobbledy Gooker's debut was wretched by its very design.
This thought just occurred to me about Phantasio: In 1995 the curtain call hadn’t happened yet and WWF was still trying to maintain a sense kayfabe. If the Undertaker pointed anything out to Vince, it might have been that this guy’s gimmick is veering a little too close to exposing the business than they would like. Vince agrees and sends Del Rios back to developmental. Del Rios is never told the reason other than there was a conversation between Vince and the Undertaker. I’m just thinking that this seems more likely than the Undertaker thinking the gimmicks were too similar.
I never will forget Bastian Booger actually losing his debut match against Virgil. I thought this was highly unusual at the time, as usually a debuting wrestler was a shoe in to go over. But I have forgotten far more debut matches where the debuting person actually went over and this one sticks out as memorable for the fact that the person making their debut on a grand stage lost.
At least it had good fighting in it. Street Fighter seemed to shy away from fighting except for the final fight between Bison vs. Guile and Ken and Ryu vs Sagat and Vega (which sucked)
Shaw Dawg Well considering that the former fight involved an actor who was dieing of cancer and the latter had to be severely edited in order to get the film a PG-13 rating, it's not like it was entirely their fault. Everything else wrong with the Street Fighter movie IS their fault, however.
I like how you mentioned what if taker was in the egg since he has recently mentioned that when he talked to Vince before he signed he became worried he would become "egg man"
Honestly, the concept of a "Wrestling Magician" like Phantasio was kind of cool and might have worked if they had gone with more of a "Criss Angel" type of magician. Instead...we got magically removed underwear and streamers. Lame.
Hey, Zman. Do you have any tips on becoming a wrestler? or do you have a video about it? I checked and didn't find any in your Playlist. unless my searching skills are horrible.
I hate to nitpick, but the picture of KISS you used alongside Bischoff is of the current lineup with Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer in Ace Frehley and Peter Criss' makeup respectively. In 1999, the original lineup was in place. You can always tell the difference by looking at the picture of Ace I have as my avatar and notice the really round chin whereas Tommy has a really squared chin. Not a big deal but as a KISS fan, I have to point it out.
+Wrestling With Wregret Like I said, I hate to nitpick but hey we're wrestling fans, we nitpick when Jericho does a Boston Crab and they call it the Walls of Jericho lol Love the videos BTW
No, he's right. The movie is mediocre at the absolute best. They made a PG 13 movie out of a series known for its gore, violence and fatalities. It's like making a Resident Evil movie without zombies.
Mick Foley said on an episode of Legends of Wrestling that a debuting wrestler called The Eggman was going to be in the egg. That wrestler wasn't fond of the idea and was given a gimmick of The Undertaker...glad he made them give him something else.
I haven’t watched wrestling since 2000.. heh. But I love these videos! I watched for many years as a kid though. So it’s nostalgic. But I think the host is hilarious and fun
Don't you pay attention to the Internet? It's impossible to be racist against white people, because feminists only ever bothered to look up one word in the dictionary.
Man, Fantasio is cool as hell. So was Glacier, the Kiss Demon, and Seven. Apparently the bookers just have no idea what's cool. Sad to think about everything we missed out on.
i feel like i said this already, probably on THIS video.... but GREAT "CLUE" drop, with the ONE THING... one of my all time favorite movies, soooo underrated
