I do like Origami King, but it sucks that they STILL have yet to re-implement the RPG mechanics from the first two games. What sucks even more, is the developers at Nintendo THEMSELVES have adopted an EA "don't like it, don't buy it" mentality - they even made a public statement a while ago in which they blatantly said they don't care what the consumers think! Just like EA, YAY!!! The other thing I don't like is the sheer unbalancing of items in the game. There are so few items it's laughable, and the ones that ARE there are 100% useless. It's utterly pointless to use anything but Flashy/Legendary Hammers and Hurlhammers. The only time I ever used Fire/Ice Flowers was when my Hurlhammer broke mid-battle, I didn't have another one equipped, and I only had my standard Boots equipped. I miss crafting good items. :/ The ring mechanic isn't as bad as people say. I think it's pretty interesting - it makes each boss fight different, and I actually had to pay attention to see how to beat them. Granted, it always involved using a Vellumental and then using the 1000 Fold Arms, but each boss felt unique. I thought the story was nice and charming, if a bit vanilla, which is fine for a Mario game IMO. You're not playing a Mario game for the story (usually). I found Olivia to be annoying as HELL, and the fact that she doesn't have an attack in battle is just... bleh. You do get Bobby eventually, a Bob-Omb partner, and he does do attacks just like Bombette and Captain Bobbery did. You can't choose them, but he still helps out. He was a REALLY interesting character to boot, but he dies around mid-way through the story. Damn. I actually liked his character. Still, it felt good to have a partner again, just like the good old days. :)
Who else wants a return of the Super Mario Strikers and Mario Superstar Baseball series' that only appeared on GameCube and Wii? Two Mario spinoff series' that haven't been seen in nearly 10 years, and I think they could use new installments. Who agrees?
Mario sports superstars 3DS has both baseball and soccer. May not be the same but it’s close. I do prefer strikers and Sluggers over superstars but the 3DS game is still good
The sad thing about sticker star is that you could do an rpg based on items instead of exp, but in order for it to work you need to make the stickers rewards for defeating enemies. Breath of the Wild does it fantastically.
After 12 years of watching RU-vid Poops, it's hard to hate on Hotel Mario. Heck, I even made some back in 2006, which I unfortunately deleted later on. Sure, it was a bad game, but it ended up bring tons of people hours and hours of entertainment on RU-vid in its afterlife. Whether you were making them or watching them, everyone had a blast with the CDi games. It's a weird legacy, but at least it saved the game from falling into complete oblivion.
Mr_spoon yeah but we are judging based on it being a game, as a meme it’s actually good so if we viewed it as a meme yeah it wouldn’t be on the list. But I won’t just keep circling my answer so yeah.
Kiara Wolfe I guess you're right. I mean, everyone's initial reaction (including mine) to the infamous CDi games was almost always "what is this absolute garbage". It's hard not to be biased after all this time.
Mr_spoon You know, that is exactly why I can't hate Norm of the North. While said movie doesn't have that many RU-vid Poops, but the fact that it has the material for them is enough for me to love it for all the wrong reasons.
@@silkymilkymememonkey I can respect that. I personally am a little confused as to why Mario Odyssey has sold more copies on the Switch than Breath of the Wild. I could've sworn Breath of the Wild was most successful, but whatever.
That's not hard to guess, really. Honestly, I did NOT want to see Hotel Mario on this list. Not because it isn't shite (and let's be honest, it's 100% concentrated shite), but because it was such a predictable entry on a "worst Mario games" list that it's basically burger from all the floggings.
Arin Frankhouse I think this video would have been incomplete in my eyes if Hotel Mario wasn't on here. Predictable or not, you know it deserves to be on the list
Dude, everyone - even SEGA- admits and openly jokes about how Sonic 06 was bad. You're not going to be hated for something that everyone, even someone who actually started with Sonic 06, knows. What would get you hated is saying that some random Mario game sucks like Mario Odyssey and then you claim that Sonic 06 was better, when that clearly isn't the case. Except for the music. But I'll willingly admit that I've always loved Sonic music over Mario music.
I was expecting Super Mario Bros. 2 (the Japanese version) to be on this list, because of how player-unfriendly it is, but... It's actually functional and not at all boring, so it's still better than these games. Don't know if I should be happy or sad about that, though.
I'd say "happy" because that game got two remakes, with one being dummied-down somewhat to better fit in a Game Boy Color Game Pak. I beat said latter version once, but the Game Pak it was in got destroyed.
Mario 2 Japan actually does what it sets out to do really well: Make a good game for experts. Even though it took forever, I was able to stomach going through the whole thing on the Wii virtual console, whereas my copy of NSMB2 sits half finished due to boredom.
Yeah, Nintendo butchered the release of SMB2 and came up with a weak solution for our SMB2 (Doki Doki Panic with Mario characters... still not a Mario game). Had they released it at the time, I think it would have done fine (its like a difficult Super Mario Maker level pack). Look how similar the New SMB games are and people still buy them.
10: Yeah. Color Splash was actually a good game, but Sticker Star was just boring and lifeless. 9: One of the most unoriginal Mario games ever. It's a fine game, but definitely my least favorite New Super Mario Bros game. 8: I've had a lot of fun with friends with this game, but it's certainly inferior to previous games. Bowser Party is fun. 7: The best thing about this game is that it spawned a much, much, much, much better game two and a half years later. 6: Mushbert. I played it once, and never touched it again. 5: The 90s had a lot of awful edutainment games, didn't they? 4: The Koopalings have voice acting in the PC version. They sound nothing like how they should. 3: So, like every other Atari game. 2: Same as Mario is Missing, but with no Koopalings. 1: I find this game overhated. It's awful, but not that awful.
The whole game felt like a massive middle finger to Wario, his platforming series and to anybody that was waiting and wanting a new Wario Land game after Shake It/Shake Dimension. Cuz i'd like to get revenge on that bitch Captain Syrup for stealing the coin sack that I rightfully deserve after going through the hard levels and dangers!
I remember playing sticker star at a very young age, I thought it was good and thought the series was like that... then I played super paper mario not too long after that and then I realized just how wrong I was.
Conga Alien congrats on getting towards the good ol games. Glad to see someone look into the older ones and open their eyes to just how lesser creations the two newer ones became
yeah, I don't regret it, super paper is one of my favorite games ever, I played the first paper mario, thought it was pretty fun (then it got stolen along with my wii) I have yet to touch the thousand year door although I imagine it won't be able to touch my love of super paper mario
Conga Alien wouldn’t be too sure, personally thousand year seemed to me at least to beat my love of the original and just barely snag its way past super paper Mario. I’d at least recommend giving it a try, but I’m just sad how bad it became with the other two... then other M added it with the Metroid franchise crushed so many hopes too
Conga Alien I think the reason you enjoy Super Paper Mario over the original (and TTYD when you play it) is that you prefer platforming over RPGs. And that's, perfectly fine (I love Super Paper Mario myself), but in the future I do want Paper Mario games to go back to how the first 2 games were. Anyways, glad that you got a chance to play the older games and realize what Sticker Star did to the series...
@Yoshi Miner I would still be fine even if the next Paper Mario game still isn't a turn-based RPG like the firts two were. I'd just like the battle system to be fun and interesting. I may think Color Splash was a great step back in the right direction for the series as far as the writing and atmosphere was concerned, but the gameplay itself still wasn't doing it for me. Hell, I'd be fine with another Action-RPG platformer like SPM if the writing was anything like Color Splash had.
@Brendan35shoot t That’s the worst New Super Mario Bros. games, and considering that there aren’t that many godawful Mario games, they had to fill the spot with _something._
NSMB2 is my favorite NSMB game, yes its unoriginal and derivative, but all NSMB games are like that. Don’t act like NSMB Ds was more original than the 3ds game.
I have fond memories of Mario Party 9, but playing the N64 Mario Party games afterward made me realize how...for lack of a better description, soulless MP9 was.
I'm just glad New Super Mario Bros. 2 was on this list. That's the one I always throw out as an example of a bad Mario game when there was just nothing special or interesting about it, and the very idea of the game felt like a literal cash grab. Also just...I mean...you've got a Mario game centered ENTIRELY around money and you don't make Wario the main villain? That's just bad Nintendoing.
Undertale doesn't do the same thing: you'll enter battles but being a pacifist in-game allows for another route to fighting and the enemies are portrayed as actual people with homes and families that you destroy by killing or grinding. It also forwards the game's difficulty because it's entirely beatable without killing anyone yourself. Sticker Star requires grinding on enemies and then discourages fighting those same enemies. It's ass-backwards.
Where's the Lost Levels? That game does absolutely nothing to set itself apart from the original, and the main problem is that the levels themselves were designed to be sadistic to the player right from the start. I'm glad that this game is a Japan exclusive game.
10: paper Mario sticker star 9: new super Mario bros 2 8: Mario party 10 7: Mario tennis ultra smash 6: Mario party advance 5: Mario’s early years 4: Mario is missing 3: Mario bros (Atari 2600) 2: Mario’s time machine 1: hotel Mario
If this is too much British, then I may suggest not coming to England. If 2 is too many, then a whole country full of us would probably just be overwhelming.
I enjoyed Mario party 9, my sister enjoyed Mario party 9. Its not that bad, but when you've done the mini games and maps, there's not much to look forward to
Now that I think about it, had a Sticker Star-like spinoff been made for any other franchise or had been its own separate game, that would have been held in a much higher regard.
Jack Crack I actually want them to make a new Action Adventure franchise modeled after Color Splash. (Minus the Thing Weaknesses and lack of leveling up.)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 might have been a great game if it was a parody of the usual Mario games and was more focused on exploration while you drown in coins. While they're at it, they could cut out the life system and throw some new power-ups such as letting you cause earthquakes or shoot out fire like a blowtorch. But then again, Mario might not be the right choice for a game like this so maybe they could make Wario the main character instead...and rename the game "New Wario Land"?... ... I just really want a new Wario Land game. ;_;
@Manuel Alberto Romero I think Fire Emblem and Persona also fit that description. Nobody outside the Smash community gave two shits about Fire Emblem before Awakening happened (and even then, very few of those guys even really care what game the characters are from to begin with) and Persona, while it had a decent following thanks to P3 and P4, didn't become a major franchise name until P5 took JRPG fans by storm.
I'm in the minority. Mario is Missing is one of my favorite mario games. But that might be because I've been a trivia fiend since I was five, and this thing is basically GUESS UNTIL YOU LEARN A NIFTY FACT on loop.
BurntHam79 Ikr? I held off buying it for a few years because I heard mostly negative things about it. I eventually tried it out a few months back. It's a fun little game to play and easy to complete 100%. I enjoyed it just as much as nsmb. I would play it over again
200 Countdowns? Congrats! Also, I think an interesting topic might be "Top 5/10 Character Creation Systems". Would love to know your thoughts on that subject.
When you’ve been around for as long as Mario and with as many games, you’ll tend to get some stinkers along the line. It’s just a good thing that most of the time, his games have been hits rather than misses. Hopefully one day, Sonic can join the fray. And if there’s anything good the edutainment Mario games brought, it’s without a doubt Weegee.
I doubt that Sonic will ever join the fray, Sega is pretty incompetent when it comes to their franchises. A real shame too, I'd love to see a new streets of rage (or maybe a kid chameleon sequel)
1: Hotel Mario 2: Mario’s Time Machine 3: Super Mario Clash 4: Mario Is Missing 5: Paper Mario: Sticker Star 6: Mario Party 10 7: Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash 8: Super Mario Run 9: Super Mario Bros: The Lost Levels 10: New Super Mario Bros. 2
You´re gonna need a Top 10, at least: Bowser, Dark Matter, Ganon, Majora, Count Bleck, Dark Queen, Fawful, probably Andross, Ridley, Dark Samus, Giygas, Hades... The list of great Nintendo villains goes on and on.
Cthulu1985 And it would depend on what you mean by "great" villains. Do you mean great as in the evil they've done, their tenacity etc. Or do you mean great as in their character depth, and motive. So I feel that the 1 spot would be a 3 way winner. My personal top 3 villains would be: Bowser, due to his tenacity and iconic longevity. Count Bleck (Blumiere) due to his depth as a character, and his motives and character development we see. And if we're going based on actual evil, malevolence and genius plans and success, then Fawful would probably take that spot.
Good point. I would take these criteria for consideration: might and power (Ganon, Majora, Giygas, Dark Samus), iconic value and archnemesis status (Ganon, Bowser, Ridley), creepiness and Eldritch factor (Giygas, Marx, Dark Queen, Dark Matter, Majora), character (Ghirahim, Count Bleck, Fawful, Hades, Ghetsis or N), Resilience (Ganon, Bowser, Ridley) and overall impact on the mythology (Ganon, Demise, Bowser, Ridley, Mother Brain, Giygas, etc.).
I think NSMB 2 shouldn't really be here. Was it easy? Shure, but it's not like a ton of lives made a difference as you can very well beat most modern Mario games without dying much. The challenge mode on the other hand can be extremely brutal. If you wanted to make a statement against blandness you should have taken Super Mario Run instead.
"Paper Mario Sticker Star isn't necessarily a bad game..." But I really think it is a bad game at its core. It shouldn't get slack just for being Mario. Even Mario can slip up.
The #6 Runaway Guys Fan Just because Triple Deluxe and Robobot are taking the formula of Return to Dreamland doesn't make them bad (in fact Robobot is probably the best game in the series). People claim that Call of Duty MW2 is one of the best games of all time and that's just and exact retread of the first MW.
The #6 Runaway Guys Fan Yeah and that TV show was actually pretty good, if you think of other game-tv/movie screen tie-ins. I mean it’s loyal to the games villain wise and Kirby acts like you’d expect him to. Can’t say the same for Mario or Link...
Timmity3 did you ever play the original paper Mario’s? If you didn’t then enjoy having your enjoyment of color splash completely crumble into flaking paint
I'm not sure why everyone hates Mario Party 9 and 10 so much, especially more than games like Mario Sports Mix. Yes, it is different, there are some good features about it that I feel are often overlooked. Yes, you don't play minigames as often, but I do find most of them enjoyable when they do come up. The gamepad mechanic in 10 was actually quite fun because it allowed for the Bowser player to be able to use mindgames and interesting strategies in minigames to deal with the other players. Also, because you all move together, positioning yourself for star collection and ztar avoidance is also crucial, so when he mentioned 10 not involving strategy I have to disagree. Games are also shorter and more streamlined which in some cases can be better. When a group of my dorm friends and I played Mario Party 2, we pretty much all wanted to die after playing it for so many rounds (can't remember how many we set but it was definitely over 25). Similarly, whenever I played Mario Party 8 with my family when it was first released, we only ever wanted to do 10-15 turns because the other options just dragged the game on for far too long. Also, he mentions that 10 didn't change much from 9, but let's not kid ourselves... All of the Gamecube games played the exact same minus the modes on the side which are usually just gimmicky or fun the first time and then never touched again. I could walk into the room while my sister is playing a Gamecube Mario Party and have absolutely no idea which of the four it is because of how similar they are. I'd be bold enough to make the assumption about the first three as well, but I've only seen actual gameplay from 2. In summary, I think that Mario Party 9 and 10 are pretty good games that are underappreciated. I get more people are attached to the format of the first eight games, but when people make a claim that "if they just played the originals, they'd realize what they were missing," I can't say I agree with that statement.
I actually liked Mario Party Advance! It was like a refreshing breath of fresh air from the regulaur mario party games that for the most part is all the same! I mean at lest it was different and I enjoyed the single player campange!
Reactions: Beforehand: Mario is Missing is going to be on this list, I know it. Also, that intro though. "When can you start?" "I can't." same tho 10: Oh yeah, I... I kinda forgot that was a thing. I didn't even know it was on the WiiU. 9: I find it hard to believe this is a "bad" game. The least good of the "New" series? Sure. But a dumb gimik doesn't make something automatically bad. 8: Another one I forgot about. 7: Somewhere along the line, a mistake happened and I completely lost track of where I was in the video. So... there is no reaction available here. 6: Mushbert? Mushbert. 5: Woah, I didn't even _know_ this existed. 4: Called it. 3: I forgot this specific port existed. I'm, sensing a theme here. 2: Yup, there is a theme here. A theme of painfully forgettable games. 1: Yeah, ok. Predicable. But true.
Lanky macCrazyhair New Super Mario Bros. Wii is the worst of the New Super Mario games... because the controls are just an abomination and you can’t play it with anything but the Wiimote... Just give me a Classic Controller and we’d be good - but no... The motion controls suck. How do you play a game in which you can’t control the character(s)? :(
I love the Wii U. Sue me. Mario Party 9 is my favorite of the series because of how re-playable a lot of the mini-games are and I don't mind the car mechanic. I also enjoyed Mario Party 10. Am I at a life sentence now?
DJGamingSmash I actually liked the fact that all the characters traveled together. With the traditional style, I felt it dragged on for too long. I also thought the minigames were fun in 9. Also, magikoopa was playable, and I love magikoopa. This is one of my favorite mario parties, alongside the first 4.
You're not alone. For as much crap as 9 and 10 get, I love them. 9 shook up the Mario Party formula, and it was surprisingly fun. Plus, I enjoyed the minigames, and I am one of those weirdos who likes the NSMB aesthetic. 10 felt like a solid improvement over 9; the pacing is faster, minigames are more frequent, and the visuals are great. I also loved the return of Toadette and Donkey Kong as playable characters. The bosses were also better.
Totally agree! After watching a review, that is why I refuse to buy the DS version of SM64... Too bad they hadn’t saved that for the 3DS. I mean look how they ended up re-making The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time [3D] for the 3DS.
#10: Paper mario: sticker Star #9: New super Mario bros 2 #8: Mario party 10 #7: Mario tennis: Ultra smash #6: Mario party advance #5: Mario's early years #4: Mario is MISSING #3: Mario bros (Atari 2600) #2: Mario's time machine #1: Hotel mario
A Mario Party game where you can play as Bowser and torture the other characters SHOULD have been the best party game of all time. It SHOULD have taken the hyper-competitive spirit of Mario Party to new heights. But ultimately, the kinda-sorta-good Bowser games can't make up for the fact that it's Mario Party 9 underneath.
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