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Totem Tribe Towers vs Gershman Avante Garde vs Alta Alec 

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@Jayiyagi
@Jayiyagi 3 года назад
Playlist of products the won the award: ru-vid.com/group/PLPOzvlhtSqn7vu2fTCFmkjlRwFr3jZdQd Totem tribe tower review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JOreZP9uNhA.html Alta Alec review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Tj6iHH74yJ8.html Gershman avante garde review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1RGNhSce8Uo.html This video is not sponsored for more info on how we work: nbtsmedia.com/about-us/
@djmoalem6474
@djmoalem6474 3 года назад
love the video, Jay. I'm a very proud owner of the Gershman's Grand Avant Garde. I can listen and enjoy all my music, even the "bad recordings," without compromises, just as you mentioned in your video. I owned and auditioned many high-end pairs of speakers before purchasing the Grand measured Avant-Garde, so I have been comparing speakers as you just did in this video for many years. I just have a few comments that your viewers should consider: When referring to fast bass, it is imperative to compare speakers that can reach the same low frequencies,. In this case, the Grand Avant-Garde reaches 21Hz (I measured it), the rest of the speakers you mentioned, and most speakers and subwoofers do not go as low. 21Hz means 21cycles per second; obviously, it would not be as fast as 40 or 50cycle per second therefore you can not compare the speed of 21 Hz to the speed of 40Hz. you shouldn't confuse the two. I would like to stress out that sometimes people confuse speakers with less bass extension and volume, as having control and speed in the bass region, this is false.
@kens7618
@kens7618 3 года назад
Based on your enthusiastic reviews I ran to my local dealer where I spent an hour listening to the TTT's powered by 17K McIntosh gear. Imaging and soundstage are ridiculously good as they magically disappear into a wall of sound. Vocals, strings, acoustic instruments all very nice, however turn up the volume to rock out a bit and the bass sounds like a small speaker, albeit very good one that I could enjoy in a secondary living room system. By comparison the Totem Forests are the superior all rounders. I've listened to the Gershmans on several occasions and find them vastly superior to either. The laws of physics and return on investment both remain intact. Cheers!
@soundman3732
@soundman3732 3 года назад
Great video Jay, It seems that you need to familiarize yourself again with the Gershman Grand Avant Garde. It has been 9 months since you reviewed them according to RU-vid, (it's difficult to remember all the details and compare without having the three products, side by side. ; the Gershmans baffle (5")which is narrower than the Totems and Alec. Gershman also went further than both companies and treated the baffle with felt in order to achieve the perfect imaging.
@FanofMSU
@FanofMSU Год назад
Hi Jay. I’ve been loving my KLH Model 5’s and think they deserve much more credit than they get. I have them paired with Pass Labs and Denafrips gear and the detail, bass and soundstaging are impressive! I bought some Dynaudio Heritage Specials as an upgrade attempt but still prefer the KLH. Do you think the Tribes would better the KLH? I loved my old Totem Forests…
@itsmorphed6416
@itsmorphed6416 3 года назад
Appreciate it Jay. I think the longer we are in this game the better our ears become . And we have to hear different products to gain experience and to learn what we like as individuals. Peace .
@drwavedawg
@drwavedawg 3 года назад
Actually your hearing worsens with time. No getting around that lol
@itsmorphed6416
@itsmorphed6416 3 года назад
@@drwavedawg actually yes you could go a little deaf . But it's not what im saying now is it .
@ianorigbo7617
@ianorigbo7617 3 года назад
Brilliant job Jay, love your channel
@lynnpoole7830
@lynnpoole7830 3 года назад
Thanks Jay, I'm a big fan. Why? I respect your opinions and appreciate your work. You seem to be a genuinely nice person and it shows.
@asphalthedgehog6580
@asphalthedgehog6580 3 года назад
Had the Totem Arro, now the Kin Mini + sub. Want to buy something better, and I am thinking LS50 META + my Totem Sub. But haven't heard them... I don't really care about the price, and you reviewed both. Is the Totem much, much better? The reason I traded the Arro for the Kin? 6db/Oct filtering. I never liked 12dB filters: sound stage moves forward and backwards, as always is the case with 3-way speakers. Can you give your opinion?
@soundman3732
@soundman3732 3 года назад
I wanted to bring up the point that I think most come across when choosing the perfect pair of speakers. Listening to the music we like: When it comes to speakers that are considered to be revealing or exciting, we are put in a position that we can not listen to most of the music we have or enjoy as the recording is considered to be " BAD RECORDING". But the problem is that it's not the recordings, it's the "Reaviling speakers" preventing us from enjoying our music, restricting us to listening only to Audiophile music because they are too bright. It's much better to have forgiving speakers and listen to any recording.
@oy2419
@oy2419 3 года назад
Probably the best review of The Next Best Thing Studio!
@marietorry7077
@marietorry7077 3 года назад
Hi I've been watching your channel for about a year I live in the UK and love your in depth reviews which are very well presented. In relation to your comments in this video I do agree that it seems like every time you have a new pair of speakers in you claim there better than the last. What hifi magazine in the UK do not date these totems as a 5 star product so stressing how much a matter of taste is definitely right in what your doing. I guess the advantage a magazine has is they can rate all aspects of a product in a format such as build, sound quality, compatibility etc. At the moment people looking to buy new products will do so based on reviews which on your channel has become more confusing over time. Just an observation not trying to be negative keep up the good work!
@jamestartaglia7686
@jamestartaglia7686 3 года назад
What hi fi has it right .....everytime for me....
@DW-ue3fs
@DW-ue3fs 3 года назад
I like when people compare speakers and amps. I heard the totem tribe at audio fest and they had them playing loud and I could hear them distorting ding from being pushed.
@djmoalem6474
@djmoalem6474 3 года назад
I agree very harsh sounding, distortion, and lack of bass extension.
@DonLee480
@DonLee480 3 года назад
What do you recommend? I was considering the Totem Element Metal V2. But now I have seen some rave reviews about the Magico A3 and may consider the a5 with more bass drivers. I’m trying to stay under 20k.
@jamestartaglia7686
@jamestartaglia7686 3 года назад
@@DonLee480 magico
@lesmatthews459
@lesmatthews459 3 года назад
WOW! Your ears must be Vulcan! How you can tell the difference between woofers, mids, and highs in different speakers just amazes me!! I wish I had your hearing!
@frederickhardman3389
@frederickhardman3389 3 года назад
Good work, get it up. I would enjoy more of these videos for bookshelves, amps and everything else.
@anjovandijk9797
@anjovandijk9797 Год назад
speaking of that Alta speaker coming up which you prefer even more did I missed🙈 that video or is it still coming soon
@DonLee480
@DonLee480 3 года назад
I don’t know which one to choose still. I’m debating between Totem Element Metal v2, Alta Alec, or Gershman Grand Avant Garde. Honestly never considered any of these speakers until I came across your positive reviews. Heck, never heard of Alta and Gershman until I saw your review. Keep up the excellent job! Curious if you have any experience with the Totem Element Metal V2 speakers and what your thoughts are on those? Thank you!
@soundman3732
@soundman3732 3 года назад
I went with the Gershman - I love them, as it has everything I was looking for and more. I listen to any kind of music at any volume and it sounds incredible, without missing any detail or killing my ears. That's all I can tell you, but it depends on what you are looking for.
@DDSRacer01
@DDSRacer01 3 года назад
💯💯Thx for the vid man
@RahzAlGhul
@RahzAlGhul 3 года назад
U know anything about the Carnegie Acoustics Pedastale? They look similar to these wondering if I should pick them up
@jeffkalina7727
@jeffkalina7727 3 года назад
Jay, we love you!! Thanks for keeping your ears open for the NBT! Naysayers be darned!
@User_not_found_403
@User_not_found_403 3 года назад
thank you for NOT being afraid to compare. We all need a point a reference!
@anonymohipp9097
@anonymohipp9097 3 года назад
Thanks Jay! I enjoy the content. Good luck with the channel.
@randyreinninger6826
@randyreinninger6826 3 года назад
You doing an excellent job and I appreciate your content. You explain your thoughts and also you always tell everyone that these products are not for everyone. Thank You Sr.
@ridirefain6606
@ridirefain6606 3 года назад
From the peanut gallery: I like the fact that you review good products, that perform well. Even though there is plenty of junk that is out there, I am not interested in watching you flame brand-X's component on your channel. What I am interested in, is just this sort of content. Where we take a hard look at the strengths and weaknesses, of some exceptional product. Great Job!
@damianzaninovich4900
@damianzaninovich4900 3 года назад
Love your passion and respect your opinions. Keep doing what you’re doing.
@davidstein9129
@davidstein9129 2 года назад
Hi Jay, Thanks for the great vid. Do you or anyone else watching this video know if if the Totem Tribe Towers will integrate well with the Model One Signature center channel speaker and Model One bookshelf speakers in a suround sound home setup? I have read several times online that every Totem speaker line is designed to sound differently from each other.
@mmbl1786
@mmbl1786 3 года назад
Great job!
@TombstoneTube
@TombstoneTube 3 года назад
I watched all the 3 reviews and - yes - they are all coherent. At that price point it starts to be a question of taste.
@RahzAlGhul
@RahzAlGhul 3 года назад
I appreciate your reviews and your channel seriously been watching you since the pandemic started. I appreciate the in depth you go into and accuracy of what and how a speaker should be reviewed.
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 3 года назад
You really need to define your terms. Bass texture? Tone? What do they mean? This is the problem with audiophile reviewers. They have their own terms that are never defined.
@Audfile
@Audfile 3 года назад
Apparently Altas are straight up off the shelf Madisound and Dayton drivers. Cheap ones.
@drwavedawg
@drwavedawg 3 года назад
Some Wilson’s use super cheap tweeters. At the end of the day listen to the speakers performance. If it’s good it’s good
@DonLee480
@DonLee480 3 года назад
Is this true?
@Audfile
@Audfile 3 года назад
@@DonLee480 yes, there's a new review channel out there and the guy opened them up and showed the drivers and the build quality. Somehow Alta is selling budget builds for thousands of dollars.
@drwavedawg
@drwavedawg 3 года назад
@@Audfile that’s a very complex cabinet. Listen to them before you judge. As I said a speaker is not simply a sum of its parts but the quality of the sound. Performance is eveything
@pesto9
@pesto9 3 года назад
@@Audfile I saw that...yikes. The channel is (something like) 2 Channel Listening.
@alldhat-n-den-sum4190
@alldhat-n-den-sum4190 3 года назад
Jay WwowW Jay WwowW.... Just seen this as I type... Its about time, as you are absolutely right, this is how we buy, from TVs to cars, we compare and thank you for doing this... And your comparing your favourites WwowW... Bless
@michaelmityok1001
@michaelmityok1001 3 года назад
Hey you will NEVER please everyone, there will ALWAYS be the trolls, don't feed them! Keep accurate notes (which you seem to do), emphasize when you review that the sound you are describing is IN YOUR ROOM. Provide the gear chain with every review so that folks can make their own connections/predictions/extrapolations based on those components' performance specs and any potential synergy with the piece under review. This forces them to take ultimate responsibility for any purchasing decision that is based on your reviews. Other than that, there isn't much more you can do to silence the complainers dude, sorry but being a RU-vidr the shit comes with the territory!
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 3 года назад
He provides no measurments to show his claims. Should be easy to show the frequency response of the speaker. How do I know what his room sounds like. He gives an opinion based on what he thinks he hears. That's not a troll, that's just sense. I still have no idea what the totem speakers sound like after this video !
@michaelmityok1001
@michaelmityok1001 3 года назад
@@r423sdex Jay isn't into measurements, at least not yet, Ron over at NRD is doing measurements, if that is what you are into. Personally I don't much care for measurements as a means of determining whether I might like something or not. Agree however that I am not sure there is enough information on offer in this review to feel confident I understand how this speaker is unique in terms of sound signature. Most importantly I feel like without a comprehensive description of the gear chain with some specs, it is hard to extrapolate what gear these speakers might or might not synergize with.
@ashtonburch3732
@ashtonburch3732 3 года назад
Love your channel and your take on HIFI. We need more reviewers like you to get to the heart of the issue. Your reviews help cut through the marketing BS! Thanks for your efforts
@pedroluisguillemain5683
@pedroluisguillemain5683 3 года назад
Good video, Thanks! Please review the Q Acoustics Concept 500 if you can. They are incredible speakers for the money. Cheers from Argentina!
@quikspecv4d
@quikspecv4d 3 года назад
Please do a review of the Swan M3A. I think they are fantastic. More people should know how good the are for the $
@rumar4u
@rumar4u 3 года назад
I sometimes get lost with all the comparisons... What about do the favor for us (at least for me) and categorize them like Tier 1 (top with a color) Tier 2 and so on... that way when I reach for a category based on my budget I know if I can go to a higher tier or reach for a better product in the same category
@angelgrant1609
@angelgrant1609 3 года назад
Another great , real, truthful review. Thank you. If you had a choice between Tekton Moabs and the Totem tribe tower. Both same price. Which one would you buy .
@WhiteBubblySoup
@WhiteBubblySoup 3 года назад
Thanks for making this. Interesting comparison.
@spinachhandsjklolsmh9053
@spinachhandsjklolsmh9053 3 года назад
Love you bro! But I would really love if you would refrain from addressing any s*** talkers you may have. All it does is give them power, and inserts a negative feeling in your videos. Keep up the good work my man. I watch and like every single one of your videos
@williamlee1277
@williamlee1277 3 года назад
'There is alway a better asian than you?' That is deep and cynical. lol. Love the quote. Dont get it too personal. Always love your straight and honest review. Dont hold back and hope you will review more equipment that is neutral. lol. Happy lunar new year
@rank400
@rank400 2 года назад
Must say,i’m confused . few months ago the avangarde became your dream speaker. you said that you preferred them over the Wilson sabrina and according that review you bought them,so please explain me,what happened since then? . people trust on your reviews !
@Jayiyagi
@Jayiyagi 2 года назад
I review new speakers and my opinions grow and expand like any person in this or other hobby.
@chartliner
@chartliner Год назад
You said before that the Totem Tribe speakers made other speakers sound like they were broken but maybe not these two in your comparison. It's all about money , I doubt speakers costing 50,000 or 200,000 would sound broken. Like Focal Grand EM's which Steve Guttenberg said made it sound like a symphony orchestra is in your living room but then they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and have an electro magnet in their main driver which is at least 50 lbs heavy.
@rg6556
@rg6556 3 года назад
Great video, Jay! A healthy comparison of various products are great way to help viewers better understand each product and where reviewer's points are coming from. I look forward to seeing more comparison videos from NBT. Keep up the good work!
@rg6556
@rg6556 3 года назад
One suggestions, if you might remind us in video which're the gears your paired with each speakers. This might share some insight of why one might have better synergry/advantage over another reviewed product? Just a thought.
@bernhardmichaelfux308
@bernhardmichaelfux308 3 года назад
Killing three birds with one stone! Jay, the soulsik serial killer! lol....
@jamesdwright
@jamesdwright 3 года назад
Interesting how you label this 'best modern speaker'..are you suggesting there are vintage speakers you've heard that can't be beat Jay?!
@Равшанбек-щ8э
@Равшанбек-щ8э 2 месяца назад
Сколько Ом Gershman, 4 или 8?
@phillipthompson1395
@phillipthompson1395 3 года назад
Jay you need to review the perfect 8s and magico
@jo1512
@jo1512 3 года назад
Great Video. Best Video thanks
@robh9079
@robh9079 3 года назад
Great! This sort of review/comparison is where the rubber hits the road! Describing sound; It's just occurred to me; the subtleties of the way the reviewer pronounces descriptive words, and also facial expression, is a big part of how more effective a video is over a written review. I was thinking about the way Thomas says 'smooth' and how it seems to mean something different to Jay!
@marvinchang7077
@marvinchang7077 11 месяцев назад
I tried listen to Totem Tribe Tower, I had high expectation but it come up short, the female voice sounded a little nasal or tubed, not open and clear. The dealer happen to have the Gershman Avante Grade 30 years anniversary model, it sound much better in every way…
@fraddi
@fraddi 3 года назад
Jay Bird! Great job!
@djhmax09
@djhmax09 3 года назад
Are tone and timbre the same thing?
@TheGrelots
@TheGrelots 3 года назад
Yes pretty much, but tone can also be used in other contexts like “a 10 kHz tone”
@DigitalPhilosophers
@DigitalPhilosophers 3 года назад
I asked Sean from Zero Fidelity exactly this question in one of his live chats and he answered the question in the affirmative.
@luislunacortez1929
@luislunacortez1929 3 года назад
I want a put over the table something that can lead us to know about the accuracy or any audio reviewer opinion. EVery opinion is subjective for every reviewer but i think, how do we know that the reviewer has a qualify ears to give us her opinion if he can hear only up to 12khz or 13khz or less, it means if my assumption is true "he can perceive any gear like speakers as laid back or without highs because he is not be able to listen that frequencies , another reviewer with better ears or he can listen up to 18khz or 19khz is going to have a more accurate review. I think every proffesional reviewer has to show his audiometry in order to show that he has accurate hearing to make a review. Ear's reviewers are the tools for them to evaluate a gear and an audiometry is the way to test him. Give me your opinions. Especially for reviewers that don't show measurements.
@paznewis107
@paznewis107 3 года назад
Can't vote because link keeps opening when o try to read the question.. happened before so I mentioned it..
@ffgraylw2
@ffgraylw2 3 года назад
You seemed a little pissed off in this video. I miss the boyish innocence of your earlier ones :)
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 3 года назад
Food for thought: Now imagine what top of the line totem element metal v2 can do considering the alta's were 2x the price almost, gershman were 3x, so imagine something like flagship totem which is exact same price as gershman will smoke everything.🤯
@drwavedawg
@drwavedawg 3 года назад
it doesn't exactly work that way. I would encourage you to have a listen to these speakers for yourself. gear room and taste play a huge factor. one of the reasons I pushed for a comparison is because I have heard thes speakers and wanted to see our differences of perception/opinion
@jamestartaglia7686
@jamestartaglia7686 3 года назад
Yeah....bullshit
@paulsills168
@paulsills168 3 года назад
Thank you very much Jay for your honesty! Very appreciated!
@ntserver1
@ntserver1 3 года назад
Thank you for your thoughts, but why spend so much energy apologising for yourself?
@tjschakow
@tjschakow 2 года назад
It’s in the eye of the beholder or in this case the ear.
@davidmcginnis2998
@davidmcginnis2998 3 года назад
Perfect! You nailed it
@soupistasty5
@soupistasty5 3 года назад
Once again chat, move that playback slider over to 1.25 or 1.5! Enjoy n' thank me later. Great video comparison, btw!
@billfarrell4387
@billfarrell4387 3 года назад
No way could their be a better Asian than you
@Dirtydunton
@Dirtydunton 3 года назад
I wish reviewer would cut the crap, sometimes a speaker can be better. I had a set of highly regarded, extremely well reviewed set of speakers I tried with various amps in multiple setups and had good performance but they didn't out perform my Monitor Audio's at less than half the price. I got set of Golden Ears afterwards that were still almost half the price and they absolutely mop the floor of the more expensive speakers. I know Golden Ear and Monitor Audio are generally considered good value, but some of these so called elite brands are overpriced significantly. My MAs were 1800, Golden Ear 3500, Elite brand 5900. Try before you buy.
@MrBazsi888
@MrBazsi888 2 года назад
asian people dislike bass slam. this is generally true...
@triumphlover7455
@triumphlover7455 3 года назад
Was hoping for this one and you delivered! Cheers!
@bencausey
@bencausey 3 года назад
Kudos. Thank you for comparing for US. 👊
@JamesWilliams-gf8gm
@JamesWilliams-gf8gm 3 года назад
I want a Totem Tribe vs Klipsch Cornwall IV. David vs Goliath.
@stevewarner8686
@stevewarner8686 3 года назад
I owned Totem Hawks paired with Plinius 9200. Nice for jazz classical but would not rock... got frustrated and got rid of both...
@gme10955
@gme10955 3 года назад
Great comparison video Jay. I own the Alta Alec speakers and love them, but I've owned Totem speakers in the past, and think Vince is an incredible designer. I look forward to hearing the Totem Tribe at some point.
@geol7408
@geol7408 3 года назад
Dude, defensive Jay is not fun to watch. Stop caring what people think. It's only RU-vid and nobody really cares.
@DigitalPhilosophers
@DigitalPhilosophers 3 года назад
The Totem Tribe Tower is the only speaker I would even dream of if there were 1000 bad reviews out there. Cause I know what they make me feel like 🤩🔥🤤💥⚡️
@edwardbalboa5528
@edwardbalboa5528 3 года назад
Don't kill birds
@saedamad
@saedamad 3 года назад
👍👍👍
@xtctaz
@xtctaz 3 года назад
Avant gardes r 13k usd vs totems 5k. Wouldnt a decision then be a no brainer?
@divviesthirdstream3938
@divviesthirdstream3938 3 года назад
Avant-gardes sound way better no comparison
@altops4490
@altops4490 3 года назад
***** stars, dont stop.
@charlesgordy7622
@charlesgordy7622 3 года назад
Thanks Jay, very helpful.
@jackprick9797
@jackprick9797 3 года назад
"There's always a better Asian than you" never heard.
@georgebartolo8856
@georgebartolo8856 3 года назад
This video had to be made! Lol
@net_news
@net_news 3 года назад
honest and to the point!! Great work Jay!!!
@The-Spotlight-Kid
@The-Spotlight-Kid 3 года назад
We can get conditioned into ways of thinking ...like I never dreamed I'd ever want or ever like or even bother trying any speaker with just 2 of 4" inch mid/base drivers on each, after owning speakers with 10, 12 & 15 inch drivers, but from what you've said previously & now, it seems like I'd pick the Totems if given the choice over many others. And they aren't heavy!!! I'm shocked by that (& left wondering if they use 1 or 2 thinned box panel's resonance as part of their designer's wanted sound, as very few designs have done before, (the placing of internal bracing or lack of would give a clue) but all above is just arbitrary interest only because that would Not stop me buying them if they sound as good to me as they do to yourself. And good bass without the standard crossover trickery to subdue the range above the bass that wzys makes those speakers much less sensitive & needing far more power. They certainly do (as you've said b4) seem to defy physics in at least 2 or 3 different ways.
@lesmatthews459
@lesmatthews459 3 года назад
Better Asian??? BAD comment bro!!
@Jayiyagi
@Jayiyagi 3 года назад
calm down... it's a meme ...
@lesmatthews459
@lesmatthews459 3 года назад
@@Jayiyagi I'm not upset - just thought it was a bad comment. Maybe I'm missing something - I am 70 so some things go over my head! LOL!!
@lesmatthews459
@lesmatthews459 3 года назад
@@Jayiyagi I don't even know what a "meme" is! Told you I was old!! LOL!!
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