Tourists are SCREWING IT UP for Everyone! | Casting Off Ep 031 

I've seen way too often from the otherside of the fence, being an Indonesian.

I have personally seen such behavior's and it is truly cringe worthy.

I want to see the naked bike riders!

Well, travel undertaken by 'the English' only will lead to misery. They are the worst traveller's in the world. They demand everything but refuse to pay. Truly horrible.

@@Paul_C i agree here where i live the English are the ones behaving ridiculous

Witnessed & experienced similar from various nationalities.

More examples of entitlement. That's definitely the theme of the day in the comments, Daniel! Thanks for the comment 👍

Not just Americans though. It's an affliction that affects any western tourist abroad.

@@followtheboat ..and, in particular, almost 4 million Muslims who appeared illegally into the UK over the last 10 years. But who is counting - let's bash white westerners for women not covering every inch of their arms and legs. Seems about the same.

You wouldn't believe how some people dress in public, even more so government buildings 🤷

Rob, there is more to consider.....SECOND POINT TO CONSIDER -- Every "requirement" you mentioned, are religious based rules - they have their origins in Islam. SO please tell me which Religious Rules from Christianity in the UK that you wish Muslims to adhere to? Do you feel comfortable in posting a video telling Muslims which they must adhere to? For instance, our Christian belief is that women do not need to hide their faces - shall we tell Muslims in the UK and US, that they shall remove their face obstructions when going through immigration? Both the US and UK have now permitted them to retain these obstructions. I really do believe that you should think this issue out a bit as there is far more going on than simply customs and "when in Rome" stuff. As always, love you guys and your channel.

(Rob, reposting my comment to Jamie for your consideration)..On the immigration issue, are you kidding me? When have you spoken out about the boatloads of African Muslims entering the UK illegally? Or the millions illegally entering the US? Common guys. Why are you speaking like this. Why not say that Muslim countries should NOT try to reinforce Islamic dress codes on Christians visiting their country??

Michael, or Colleen, whichever your name is remains unclear but in full disclosure I have had a swift look at your channel and judging from your saved videos you speak from an unusually right wing, American, perspective that seems to contain elements of religious xenophobia. On that basis I doubt we’ll be friends any time soon. I cannot pretend any knowledge of the requirements for visiting Muslims vis-a-vis the USA’s immigration or passport control, so I won’t comment on that topic. As far as the UK’s immigration and passport control requirements are concerned you have grossly misrepresented the facts. In this case, the duty for officers to positively identify all individuals entering the country is of course required and there are no exceptions. Where an individual wears an Hijab for religious or cultural reasons, such as it being unacceptable for a male not their husband or direct family to see their face, they are free to request an identification to be carried out by a female officer in a private room provided for that purpose, which perfectly simply satisfies both their own religious restrictions and the requirements of UK immigration law. It’s really no big deal. As far as your statement about the UK being a “Christian society” goes, you are again grossly misrepresenting the facts. In the UK the basis of our society is strongly secular and we try to ensure that we maintain a healthy separation of religion and State. For instance, I am an Agnostic but nevertheless I respect the right of others to believe in whatever deity or religious belief system they may find comfort in, nor do I think either more or less of them for doing so. More to the point, I will strongly defend their rights in that respect. Finally, regarding your attempt to conflate the subjects of tourism and illegal immigration I will say only that the laws of the land apply and I am content that they do. As I stated in my OP, the advice I was given has led me to have had the pleasure of making many firm friends around the world, from all religions and social strata, who have given me opportunities to see, experience and gain understanding of a great deal that many visitors are denied. That has given me great pleasure throughout my half a century of travel, for which I am eternally grateful. Of course, to coin a phrase, your mileage may vary. Have a nice day, it’s an amazing world out there, please don’t wreck it through narrow-minded attitudes and religious hatred, that’s a road to ruin for all of humanity.

Hey Rob. Thanks for that post. What excellent advice you were given, which are sure to hold you in good stead when visiting different countries and cultures. If only more people followed these simple 'rules' when traveling. Some people don't consider that, despite humanity's similarities, there are differences too, and these should be respected whether you agree with them or not.

@ColeenWest2000 "Requirements" wasn't used in Rob's comments. He simply shared advice and principles that were shared with him upon receipt of his passport. Injecting disdain for a well-spoken world traveler sharing their experiences is contemptible. I applaud Rob for his worldview and ambassadorship of goodwill.

Jeees, that's scary stuff!

Skimpy tonsils! 🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant. Sad, but brilliant!

I watched one of those YT channels and it is a big one. They think the flag on the back of their boat gives them something special but if they were wise, they would get rid of it. The world is not happy with that country and its bullying.

Indeed. I've seen bikinis in airports, supermarkets, and even religious spaces. It beggars belief.

Oh yes. Benidorm! When discussing this podcast before recording it we brought up the subject of Brits abroad in Spain, but forgot to mention it in the podcast.

Yeah, it's a difficult one, Eddie, especially when you're related to or close to them.

Glad you think so!

Lovely story, Bosco. Sounds like he spent quite a bit of time with you so the tip was understandable. We've been in similar situations and have learned that if they refuse the money, they're often not just being polite but genuinely just wanted to spend time with us. Offering money can be offensive so it's up to us to make the call on whether it's appropriate or not. Sounds like you got a lifetime experience for your $20 though!

Unfortunately that involves too much editing. This is an audio podcast, first and foremost. The video recording of it is a bonus.

I am unsure if you are referring to us but, judgemental or not, we'll call out this behaviour every time we see it

@@followtheboat, I wasn't referring to you guys at all. I was just stating my Grandmother's advice for all of us. I meant my grandmother's advice was in support of what you were saying.

One more tip if using the "handshake finger point technique" keep your hand close to your body. do not extend your arm fully. I often bring my other open hand underneath with an open palm.

Great advice, Jon, thank you 👍👍

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Cheers, Peter.

this is a racist comment, isn't it

Thanks so much! 😊

Your rant is on a par with ours, Eric, and I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment! Thank you for posting it 👍👍

I am very well familiar with childish adults, as a matter of fact my uncle is married to one, she believes everyone was borned to serve her!

COVID was a frustrating time for many people. All of us, in fact. With regards to authorities, I guess many were just given new orders and edicts to follow. But yeah, getting angry would have got you nowhere. Good on you for keeping your cool.

Interesting, I didn't know that about Mexico. I've only visited by land, many years ago. Loved my time there.

Thank you, Kurt. And yes, agreed about the hypocrisy.

Maybe. But it's more than that. 😔 Liz

Narcissitic and entitled.

That's what happens in busy tourist and heavily-populated spots all over the world! I'm from London and have seen so many ways that tourists are ripped-off. These places attract the dregs. As a local, tourists can be annoying, so my suggestion is to go in with a big smile and stay firm when declining offers of help. Be mindful of local customs, show respect, dress conservatively and learn a few words of the language. Get away from the worst places (airports, tourist trinket shops, taxis). We arrange for pick-up at airports to avoid the taxi-driver-hassle, hire mopeds/cars or a driver for the day if it's possible, and NEVER go in souvenir shops. Or avoid places like Bali and the BIG tourist destinations altogether, there are always alternatives. Enjoy your travels. 🙏 Liz

@@followtheboat My wife and I always dress well. Actually, we got picked out of the line at LAX and upgraded to business class to Bali, which was lovely. We did have pick up arranged with our hotel. I just had to chase the "helpful" taxi guy to get our bags back! As far as souvenirs go, we ended up seeing the same silver pieces at the airport on the way out, for 1/2 of the "best price" that the village silver shop would give us on our day tour with a private driver. We also bought a beautiful Balinese wooden relief carving online, once we got back to L.A for 40% less than the best price offered us in a village shop. Our best practice is to get away from touristy areas and go to villages etc, when we travel. Bali is one of those places where I honestly think you're better off just staying in a beautiful resort for a week and then leaving. It's not how we travel, so we have never returned.

What I meant by "tipping nation" was the reliance on tips to help pay the basic wage, Mike. That is, tips are essential. In the UK they are discretionary.

Thank you for your kind words. We love it here!

Thank you, Janice!

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Yes, it's dodgy ground. It is frustrating though, certainly by our western standards.

mayor atau governor, bli/mbok?

Thanks for the correction, londobali. We appreciate your comments as a local Indonesian 👍

​@@followtheboat Maybe you're confusing helmet rule with seatbelt rule. With helmet both driver/rider and passenger required to wear helmet, when with seatbelt it's just required to driver and front passenger, and they didn't even require kids to used baby/children car seat and/or booster seat here. Or should I say not yet.

Exactly that 💯

Great to hear from you, Nige. I gotta catch up with you on WA!

Despite the negatives, Covid reset many things, from nature to locals realising they had better lives living back in their family village rather than in town.

Well said, Jim 👍

Hi James. Yes, facts are important. Of course facts get twisted with bias and subjectivity 🤷

Got it in one, Steven 👍

Yep, couldn't agree more, Jerome. We are guests, no matter how we feel. Mutual respect is a matter of course.

Compared to us tourists who aren't used to the tropical heat, the locals often appear over-dressed! Often it's to hide from the sun but they're acclimatised to it. Many men wear jeans 😮

I know in the Andes mountains the native women were several wool dresses to keep them cool in the summer seems like it be hot to me lol

I'm not sure I understand your question 🤔

I think they want you to name names through out. I would have thoroughly enjoyed that also. But understand you not doing it.

What's the nationality that the marina and Malaysia that they don't allow

Its all fine when you do it in private. But posting it on social media is not anymore at a "less inhabitant" area is it?

@@londobali I forgot about that part of the story. True that! That wasn't wise or thoughtful.

Hmmm, not just Migros, Dave 🤦

Never an issue, but what you interpret from one frame can be misleading.

Only if you're looking to further examine the behaviour of said country, Rob, which wasn't the point of the video. These were anecdotes only so it wouldn't be fair to shine the light on one specific country when there are stories of misbehaviour coming from all over the world. It shouldn't matter where you are from or which country you are visiting when you are respecting local codes of etiquette.

Tipping culture is a result of the habit of hiring afroams as servants, and they were not allowed to earn wages at the same rates as others.

It's a shame it's got like that. We tip restaurant service in the UK but it's 10% tops, and only if you feel you got the service. Unfortunately with cashless payments the tips are often included in the bill as a service charge and you have to wonder how much of that the staff actually sees.

I'm not sure these are the people we were talking about, Earl, but they don't sound like my cup of tea 🤷

@@followtheboat it is sailing zatara.they made a vlog trashing Egypt after they left.keith Whittaker is an asshole.

I may have told this story before but Egypt was the first country we sailed to after Turkey and I was full of preconceived ideas about it, all based on sailors who had travelled up the Red Sea. They were all wrong. We loved Egypt and the Egyptians and from that moment on I swore never to judge a place until I'd been there myself. On a separate note, someone said in these comments that you get what you give, so behave like a wanker and you'll be treated like one, so the likelihood of negative shit happening to you increases. I think our positive attitude to new experiences helps carry us through certain situations. We don't look for trouble so we rarely find it.

@@followtheboat I love watching you two,and I love your attitude.

lololol

It's great that at least one of the sailing channels is putting the message out there. Unfortunately like most things it will have little impact.

Thank you, Lana. Agreed.

I'm afraid you are incorrect in your assumptions. Many of these are just local customs pertaining to respect and decorum. Different countries have different customs, even between western regions.

I'm not sure what "boatloads of African Muslims" has to do with our experience of tourists messing things up for other tourists.

@@followtheboat ..my point is that you seem critical of, let's be honest, white people not giving full respect to customs in Muslim countries. My point is that, by far by far, they do not respect our "customs" or traditions and demand we bend to theirs when they come to our country (and yours). So maybe a bit of self-reflection on the larger issue of what is going on. Yes, at some point I agree with you. But no, not really when you wear shorts and a nice collared shirt to immigration.

At no point did we say "full respect to customs". Your arguement would suggest we'd be attending mosque on Fridays, Liz would be wearing a hijab, westerners would be prevented from eating pork and drinking alcohol and we'd be studying Arabic. We are allowed to pursue many aspects of our western cultures in Indonesia and it is tolerated, in much the same way we tolerate different cultures in the UK.

@@followtheboat ..correct in part and incorrect in part. Yes, some rules/laws can be simple customs. However, the ones you cite deal with Islamic based decrees reflecting modesty. Particularly modesty of women. That is, as you no doubt know, the reason why you were asked to were long pants to something as simple as an immigration check. You wore normal attire worn in all countries that are warm/hot. Now contrast that to the Muslim woman in Australia who refused to show her face when stopped by police and in which when it went to court argued that "how do you know it was me since you never saw my face".. and it was "accepted by the court as a form of accommodation". If we can accept to that absurd extent their custom, then, yes, you should be able to wear shorts and a shirt with a collar to immigration without being discriminated against. Remember, they challenge every aspect of our customs, rules and laws that differ to any extent from theirs, when in our country - they simply do. The fact that you are defending this, as British man, who is well aware of the stunning and awesome history of good that British culture has brought to the world (name a country that hasn't been positively benefited by it), is stunning to me.

@@michaeltca3103 I hadn't realised you lived (or live?) in the UK and have first hand knowledge of what you claim. I have many Muslim friends in the UK, none of whom contest UK law or customs. I'm assuming we mixed in different circles while in the UK?

I think that you may have misunderstood the point then, which is a shame.

Too bad,very valuable thoughts and experiences expressed here.

Reminded me of the Film "Vanashing Point"

You're definitely one who judges a book by its cover, aren't you?

So, in theory, you can't read this??