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@thegamingrex7753
@thegamingrex7753 10 месяцев назад
Very necessary take, I feel like most pros dont even dare to go to these levels of tomfoolery and trash talk and its kinda sad, everyone is pretending that they have never did any form of toxicity in their lives while shittalking is such an integral part of gaming. I do definitely agree that EG are overhated, they´re on of my fav teams thx to their controversy and personalities.
@sanders2strong
@sanders2strong 10 месяцев назад
lmao fuck that. shit talking is part of the game
@harpn935
@harpn935 10 месяцев назад
You had me at avoiding the boss altogether LMAO
@jzvishu5034
@jzvishu5034 10 месяцев назад
u earned a new subscriber my g keep up the unique and detailed content!
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!
@firework8140
@firework8140 10 месяцев назад
As a PRX fan ( I only watch PRX matches ).... EG deserve to talk as much smack as they want to. They are world champs. I do like humble people more, but Demon1 dont need to be humble, he's the best
@lukhw1n657
@lukhw1n657 9 месяцев назад
When I trash talk like Demon1: Riot: Suspension and Ban for you When Demon1 trash talks: Riot: *I sleep*
@RoyGarrick
@RoyGarrick 10 месяцев назад
Peps forget in early days vct being "toxic" was a casual occurrence bc most players were csgo retirees. I defo remember when 100T Steel was doggin on the other team during those lan matches and peps then didn't bat an eye..
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
It genuinly is the recent surge of valorant edaters in my opinion, what EG are doing now is TAME in comparison to what csgo or early valorant days was like.
@revimpyt
@revimpyt 10 месяцев назад
Another banger bro
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Thank you brother
@KingBLUCK
@KingBLUCK 10 месяцев назад
Spitting.
@kian1259
@kian1259 10 месяцев назад
the vine boom is always a classic
@ZoyaX1
@ZoyaX1 10 месяцев назад
I love when people have a fued or banter between eachother makes for better content imo. Also there was a situation in apex legends when a player got banned for t-bagging his own fucking teammate. Not even a enemy, pro scenes need harmelss banter to be allowed otherwise we go down the wrong path and eventually nothing will be allowed.
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
No way banned for teabagging a teammate bro Id be permabanned 💀💀💀
@genshinsbizzareadventures
@genshinsbizzareadventures 3 месяца назад
This guy is basically the type of teacher who might say "bully kids no problem". i am just kidding 😂 , you are cool . Toxicity is the key part of not only valo but in general any competitive game ever.
@infinite1483
@infinite1483 10 месяцев назад
For context EG did purposely try to be “villains”
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
and we love it, lets hope they reach finals so we get a banger of a match
@HarishKumar-yj1vu
@HarishKumar-yj1vu 10 месяцев назад
​@@menmaroThey won...Less go
@superearth5256
@superearth5256 10 месяцев назад
But why did he say kangkang was disappointment
@JustoZappy
@JustoZappy 10 месяцев назад
Yo nice video keep up the good work 👍
@akumadrekio232
@akumadrekio232 10 месяцев назад
imagine watching a MMA fight where the fighters dont trash talk eachother before they get into the ring, would not be so exciting to watch now would it ? XD
@fenveer
@fenveer 10 месяцев назад
'If China stops doing a China' We wish, can we wish.
@Jadonbutcooler
@Jadonbutcooler 10 месяцев назад
PIXEL NUTS SENT ME
@badatfortnite3641
@badatfortnite3641 10 месяцев назад
Love your vids man they are amazing and remind me of moist critical vids kinda! Love your vids stay safe out there!😊
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Moist is a big inspiration to be fair. Dude is a pinacle in content creation
@55obi
@55obi 10 месяцев назад
I think people forgot that the whole point of Esports is for ENTERTAINMENT
@cyberbrawler-brawlstars462
@cyberbrawler-brawlstars462 10 месяцев назад
twitter escalating another non existential issue, sounds classic dnt u think
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Oh yeah it could just be impression farming but a lot of these ppl are serious
@afatseagull
@afatseagull 10 месяцев назад
i agree with everything you said except the "you have to t bag people", i dont think it is aboslutely needed
@achiraorayrid
@achiraorayrid 10 месяцев назад
honestly so sick of the humble pr machine type players, we do need more ego players but it doesn't help that riot are now threatening to hand out fines and shit for tbagging and "trashtalking". it's fucking ridiculous how soft everyone is nowadays.
@INEjestr
@INEjestr 4 месяца назад
Doesn’t riot not allow real trash talk in pro play? I’m pretty sure they fine people for going too far
@PeepIsAwesome
@PeepIsAwesome 10 месяцев назад
when are u visiting bangladesh we are waiting for you my brethren
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Wat is this a joke im too boomer to understand 💀💀
@PeepIsAwesome
@PeepIsAwesome 10 месяцев назад
@@menmaro WE LOVE YOU ALL THE WAY FROM BANGLADESH WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU 🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩
@Tw1st3d_Real1ty
@Tw1st3d_Real1ty 10 месяцев назад
EG won the champions 2023 they back up their shit
@dreamyyy4724
@dreamyyy4724 10 месяцев назад
i think he is just rude he is on his phone the whole time not answering when people are asking him questions in the press conferance i dont mind players that have a bit of an ego i think he is just going a lil bit far tbh thats my opinion anyway
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Thats a fair point but also consider he is a pro gamer, some dont have the attention span on a panel, esports is still relatively new in comparison to physical sporr
@rehreh92
@rehreh92 10 месяцев назад
He's in an environment where people want to hear his thoughts and opinions. Surely he can put his phone down for a bit after playing games for hours, no? @@menmaro
@quinnflanagan8734
@quinnflanagan8734 10 месяцев назад
​@@rehreh92you mean after working for hours? Playing on that level consistently is incredibly demanding, you say "playing games" like he was just at home chilling.
@dreamyyy4724
@dreamyyy4724 10 месяцев назад
yeah true@@menmaro
@dreamyyy4724
@dreamyyy4724 10 месяцев назад
i dont think he is the best player in the tournament stats proves that less is@@cyneptu6785 then alfajer then demon1
@adrielliga5843
@adrielliga5843 10 месяцев назад
fns does trash talk a lot on and off stage and its pretty funny
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Fax I knew he did but couldnt find any instances, been a while I guess
@adrielliga5843
@adrielliga5843 10 месяцев назад
@@menmaro i think there's one clip of him mouthing "you guys are trash" and also another one of him going "you're 14 how are you missing that hello?"
@keemfrtm
@keemfrtm 10 месяцев назад
this just an opinion but i would personally rather have humbel yet toxic people because it makes fun moments and funny games.i would also rather have unhinged players because it allows for conversations and something else to do other than just tap heads (if this didnt make sense ik im dumb lol i dont rlly know how to explain what im talking about) Edit:plus people have become too soft for anything now days i oncce said thats kinda gay because something wierd happened and they got mad at me pls tell me if its rlly something bad to say sorry for offending anyone
@furynvm
@furynvm 10 месяцев назад
COM from EG said that his energy is different from Demon1 and Boostio but he supports them in anything they say or do (which is probably referencing the "villain shit".) Either way EG have a reason to talk shit and have an ego. They are one of, if not the best team in the world right now in Valorant. Their performances say so. Although I wanted to see EDG win (rip) and I want PRX to win right now, It would be so epic if EG win. TALK YOUR SHIT DEMON1, TALK YOUR SHIT BOOSTIO. Great video btw, I started playing Valorant like 2 months ago and got into the Val esports scene around a month ago and it's been so hype. Your videos on val are great and I hope you make more.
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Bro it's gonna be epic if PRX lose but if EG wins then finals is going to be hype asf either way it's a win win.
@furynvm
@furynvm 10 месяцев назад
trueski@@menmaro
@romycurry854
@romycurry854 10 месяцев назад
eg is a industry plant ik they would let them "win" once i start seeing every pro team who went up again'st them stop playing half way i was like yea the narrative and as i predicted they "won" like all industry plant they come out of nowhere n randomly "better than everyone"
@RWBYSanctum
@RWBYSanctum 10 месяцев назад
Some of it is definitely overblown but i personally think that if you want to trash talk and be toxic, you better be ready to be hated and to back it up. To their credit, EG did that, since they've only lost to PRX and Fnatic in internationals this year. Cases like NRG being arrogant and "guaranteeing" Bilibili would go home (a team which, mind you, won 2-0 against them) and Sentinels taunting Fnatic for losing to Loud is a bit much because you have no basis to back that shit up. I think what makes it worse in a way (though maybe not either) is that this is coming from specifically NA teams, a region infamous for big talk and not backing it up on the big stage. It makes the NA scene look petty and overconfident, some might say toxic (i dont necessarily agree). Plus, even if NA has a champion, theres no reason to be this arrogant. If anything Fnatic have earned the right to shittalk anyone and their mother and you dont see them do it at all. Loud are world champions and you dont see them shittalk.
@somadeli8721
@somadeli8721 10 месяцев назад
1:45 I dont hecking love tenz. But I hecking love ScreaM🐐
@maibigbutt3746
@maibigbutt3746 10 месяцев назад
FUCKIN MELONS!!!
@EdwardBeGaminG
@EdwardBeGaminG 10 месяцев назад
I don't really care about eg's banter and TT but i want PRX to kick their shit in and i guess their trash talk is working lmao😂😂😂
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Exactlyyyy I would love to see PRX kiick the shit into EG... but if EG wins then the narrative would be WILD
@EdwardBeGaminG
@EdwardBeGaminG 10 месяцев назад
@@menmaro frfr but then I'd be like meh and i seriously have a intuition that EG might win it all this year not that i want to but they are looking scarily good
@EdwardBeGaminG
@EdwardBeGaminG 10 месяцев назад
@@menmaro bruhhh istg imma cry wtf was this match goosebumps frfr best pro match so far after lock in finals
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
@@EdwardBeGaminG genuinly best fucking match I was losing my mind
@EdwardBeGaminG
@EdwardBeGaminG 10 месяцев назад
@@menmaro on god
@chai491
@chai491 10 месяцев назад
Make a video on curry reacting to your channel
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Dont wanna risk the dmca strike tbh, hes a much bigger creator than myself
@chai491
@chai491 10 месяцев назад
@@menmaro oh i understand
@ThatNerdKaizen
@ThatNerdKaizen 10 месяцев назад
I think the problem is that the concept of a heel in sports isn’t a global thing and some nuance gets lost when translating words from one language/culture to a different one
@fl4k586
@fl4k586 10 месяцев назад
Baldur's gate > val
@gamerslayerop2540
@gamerslayerop2540 10 месяцев назад
Now a days a little trash talk the whole world is fire... People are built different they cant take criticism... And btw EG reached the finals
@kieieiee9343
@kieieiee9343 10 месяцев назад
5:25 you are uninformed. all this boostio hate towards his china response was because boostio has boldly said it twice (yea twice) that "china will never be better than NA", china will always be behind NA and the other regions. these are exactly boostio's words. and after hearing these comments, we can imply boostio doesnt mean it in a way you are portraying his statements. he clearly meant in the same trash talky way that "we beat china now, we'll keep beating them again and again", that is why some people got offended when he said they are pretty good for a chinese teams (BGL just beat NRG btw), he clearly isnt on the same page as you where you just made up the story where boostio thinks "china is a new region, game just launched last month, they'll eventually get better", boostio still believes the fact that china will be behind NA and other regions who have been playing for now 3 years. again i dont feel this is bad from boostio he's being a villain, and i dont mind that unlike the people who are calling him out. i agree it will be good content for fans regardless if EG wins or lose now, but from this video i can clearly see how little you actually follow the scene. you too just saw the main viral clips on twitter and made this video. you call out people calling out boostio, while you yourself dont know the complete context.
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Bro you can say a region is shit and will still keep improving but they'll never catch up to NA - look at league of legends, KR and CN teams say this all the fucking time about NA and EU and nobody bats an eye. It is not as deep as you are pointing it out to be. Plus it'd be really fucking great if EG lost to a CN team after talking that trash so whats the problem literally? It's not a racial thing, it's literally a "they dont have the time/resources we've had to foster talent so they will never catch up"....
@kingfalkern
@kingfalkern 10 месяцев назад
the valorant community is just too soft
@quinnflanagan8734
@quinnflanagan8734 10 месяцев назад
I was with you until you tried to go for the whole "edaters are ruining valorant" argument. Edaters are so incredibly rare to spot ingame and even less so the kind of edaters that get showcased in tiktoks. There are plenty of reasons to advocate for pro players showing more personality on stage without pushing a narrative used by people who don't actually play the game to detract from its success.
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
Idk bro Im getting edaters every other game in London servers... maybe it's a region thing?
@quinnflanagan8734
@quinnflanagan8734 10 месяцев назад
@@menmaro could be, I'm in NA and see matching names 1 in every 15ish comp matches and I've only run into them being weird in comms a handful of times in about 1400h. I suppose there are a lot more of them in casual modes like spike rush, but I assume a conversation about the state of the game is focused on ranked
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
@@quinnflanagan8734 yeah it's a genuine plague here, sages only healing/ressing their jett duo and 0 comms apart from the jett deepthroating the microphone.
@eSportsAndy
@eSportsAndy 10 месяцев назад
Totally agree with you. Having heroes and villians are the best for pro valorant. I hope this kind of trash talk continues! Its entertainment Also sick of people pulling the racism card when you say one team is bad in game. I said GE wasnt that good in one of my videos and I got called racist by Indian fans :(
@kieieiee9343
@kieieiee9343 10 месяцев назад
i love how people like you always forget to add the most important part of the context behind everything. in commend's responses to other people under his orignal comment, it was made clear that he didnt like it coz it was EG (prev tournament #2 team) doing this against fucking FPX (bottom seeded team of champs #16). there was no reason for him to do this, and still. again, i myself like trash talk players, like stax is (him waving bye bye to c9 at lock in and calling bcj as "Who is that guy, i thought it was a fried chicken brand" after bcj called stax overrated). all along these there is a story and reason behind trash talk. ronaldo wont go to the fucking 18 year old newbie in the opposite team and call him trash. again, i dont mind trash talk, and i like mostly what demon1 does, its just that specifc case where he forced some sort of beef against the irrelevant team.
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
What context? EG used to be at the bottom of the leaderboard as well and other pro teams would shittalk them on twitter all the time, but not a single peep was said. Trash talk among PROFESSIONAL LEVEL TEAMS should be fine and encouraged no matter where on the leaderboard the teams sit. It's never personal and the trash talk isn't even insulting dude... saying they're not that good or teabagging isn't fucking abuse, I'd be different if EG relentlessly spoke about how shit the enemy team is/was. But dude, this is literally just saying "GG EZ" in all chat... it's literally the equivelant
@complex136
@complex136 10 месяцев назад
It's insane because in other e-sport communities (e.g. smash) the trash talk becomes part of the nature, the disrespect is part of the art that makes the gameplay so beautiful and entertaining. But here it's looked down upon as if they're attacking the human rather than the player. Crouching on somebody's body isn't going to scar them for life so why act like it?
@majuseo
@majuseo 10 месяцев назад
I agree with some of the things you said but that Boostio clip was just borderline racist. And also I don't like how you compare trashtalking in ranked vs. trashtalking in pro scene. They are called "professionals" for a reason. You don't talk in professional environments the same way you talk in the streets, that's unprofessionalism.
@menmaro
@menmaro 10 месяцев назад
I really dont see the racism in it to be completely honest but maybe I'm low IQ. Also that's incorrect, every sport has trash talk - every single sport the pro scene has trash talk. It's part of the entertainment. I disagree they have to be professional in that sense. It isn't an office environment it is the entertainment sector still.
@ohsnowwi
@ohsnowwi 10 месяцев назад
@@menmaroYeah there's no racism there at all, he simply was talking about the gameplay & for somebody to try and turn it into a racial thing is strange.. good content man keep it up
@GrimReaper..
@GrimReaper.. 10 месяцев назад
Unbelievable🫣 riot is mad because Demon1 spam the "crouch" button on his keyboard....woaahh
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