This Coach Lied and Cheated 

The fact that Wohoonjin wasn't brave enough to put up a video specifically addressing this up until this day speaks volume as to how much this drama scared him. It's so funny how many people rushed to defend him by ad-hominem-ing you as a content creator, saying you farm hate reactionary channel when in reality, YOU purposely waited for his public response. It's laughable at best

IDGAF about him being radiant or not, I think he would have made it in content eventually whether he said he was or not. I just care about him being a liar. If he earns radiant now it just doesn't matter to me. Edit: Also yeah the radiant alt account is complete bullshit

Wasnt he roasting tarik for boosting 😂 and hating him ,bro was literally getting boosted

he was diamond 3 when JeyG boosted him. Ascendant didn't exist at the time. he had reached immortal once on his own, stayed there 5 or 6 games, bottomed fragged all of them, and went back to D3. reached tit again a month later, for the 1 game this time, and deranked again. he only reached immo again later, carried by JeyG in duo queue, and then instantly the account starts perma locking Jett and dropping 30% HS every game (presumably when JeyG took over) He had touched immo with his fingers, but truly, he was a soloQ D3 player before the boost. it's all on his tracker, from march to december 2021 (when the boosting started) Also, JeyG deleted his vods because of threats he started receiving (at least that's what Hooj mods say officially). knowing how cringe people are online sometimes, I kinda believe it. he had facecam at the time, he doesn't want people to find clues in there and find where he lives... I would do the same personally, and I don't think he can be blamed for just wanting to be safe

I think when you're so deep in a lie, you just end up lying to yourself. Not excusing what he did AT ALL, but I think if you see it like this, it makes more sense of the whole "I felt bad" situation, where I believe he truly did feel bad, but it ended up in the deepest part of his mind and he tricked himself into forgetting. He still owned up to it, somewhat well granted, not perfectly. I just hope he'll do better, and am sure he will

He was false claiming his rank and upcharging his services with the false claim of his rank which is basically fraud , but people gonna let it slide as usual

Very eloquently put and I agree with your thoughts entirely. I love how critically you think, and how well you put across your argument. Hoping he addresses lying to his viewers directly and apologises to them instead of continuing to trying to tiptoe around it, because he didn't seem apologetic at all in that clip. I love your content!

Well, the ultimate punishment for this is a ban on Woohoojin's account. But Riot will never do that because they love their content creators who are big and bring players to them. So let's take this like it is. Woohoojin, gets away from a ban because Riot decided their rules for banning account sharer does not apply if you are a famous content creator promoting Riot's games (Also the guy was very drama free, that helps). This lets people know, we can do this as well as long as we make sure to not get caught in the initial stages, get famous and make a wholesome community. Sounds like a plan to me.

i ran to watch this video after i started watching hooj's last video and he said "ascendant 3 coach"... he's a good coach, he didn't need to cheat his way to the top. his reaction was gaslighting 101, i can't even believe this is real lmao

From what i've heard about his private coaching.. $800 is almost reasonable. I'm pretty sure it's multiple hours per week over the course of a few months including homework catered specifically to the player. The player would also have to put in an insane amount of time and work. I've heard that he has refunded people who aren't up to the amount of work they need to do. I do not think the private coaching is scummy, especially since he makes it hard to find and does not advertise it.

Condescending sassy banana has been real quiet 🤣

just found your channel today, cant believe you have 6k subscribers, keep doing what you are doing and you will soon blow up iA!

He changed his intro, and yeah he’s a great couch , I think he had smurfed in the past a while back but he changed an apologized in one of them I think, which I guess is similar to getting boosted but I don’t really know all the facts

He’s our favorite asc 3 smokes main now :)

So glad you brought up the coaching auctions. It was always being glossed over and i felt like i was going insane that not many people brought it up. Plus the radiant alt, would literally solve all of this if he dropped it so he is still lying. I fucking loved watching woohoojin man but this is just downright disgusting behavior from him.

i know im never buying coaching so it doesn't matter much for me as his videos from the few i watched did help me improve , but i can see why people would be pissed bout it as there's people who would buy coaching sessions from him

800 bucks? My man making Neace look like a saint!

Good points made

not looking for *sniffles* sympathy *voice shakes* although it didnt sound like that anywhere else hes a just a liar & most yall eating it up.

I think he’ll talk about the allegations on his channel on April 1st bc that’s when his raze to radiant starts.(or whenever he uploads the series to yt)

Thanks for posting this. I feel exactly the same. He makes amazing content but unfortunately built his career on a lie. His response was extremely disrespectful. I hope people who subscribe to him realize the logical conclusion of allowing people with falsified credentials a platform.

nah thank fuck someone is talking abut this like its actually insane bro. thank goodness for the goat covering this!!!!

do agree also it’s kinda weird he hasn’t made a video about it, i’m assuming he probably just doesn’t want to draw more attention to the whole affair. but will give him credit for the fact that the response is super easy to find in the discord server where most of the community is anyways. seems like you’re not too familiar with the content model he runs but doesn’t seem like he uses his twitch for much since everyone chats in the server from what my friend has said. i think there’s a dedicated drama channel with pinned messages for links to the responses.

i think only way he could not be affected by this, is if he decided to be content creator and then make a new account. even if hooj only ever said he had hit immo it would show him getting boosted in the trakker

from waht i remember the reason why he doesn't want ot show his alt is cause it's private and an account he bought that was iron and it's like super cringe this is from what i remember but i can be wrong still i believe he can reach radiant and we will just have to see how long it's gonna take for him to reach radiant on raze

I will say one thing on the Radiant Alt account, if we give him the assumption that he has that but we also assume that like he said he doesn't record when playing on that Alt then, there is no one of proving that there is no way to prove whether or not that Alt account was solely played by Woohoojin. Now I agree with many things you said but that would be my understanding of not leaking that supposed Alt account which we don't know if it is real or not. There should be a video on his channel addressing it for sure, as looking through watch party, VODs to find this response, or going on his discord and searching for the response is simply unreasonable.

I typically agree with you on basically everything but idk what happened here, some of the arguments are just so weird. Also im pretty sure its 800 bucks for months of coaching and plans etc. And that whole bit about 800 bucks not being enough to stop people from buying it to spend time with the streamer is so wild like what does that even mean 😭😭

Great video tbh

if he was as good of a guy as he tries to come across then he would have come clean without having to get exposed by someone else, he didn't even make a youtube video addressing it directly, and if he played on his "radiant alt" on stream showing he holds his weight then it probably would have eased the whole situation up he's a fraud but he's also a liar, i doubt he would have ever come clean if he didn't get exposed yet he always tried acting holier than thou like when Tarik was smurfing in plat, he wasn't wrong but it's ironic with him getting boosted to radiant and using that buddy as part of his branding as a coach

i used to believe in banana man and used to be an avid defender of his teachings but now criticism ive seen on reddit and other coaches discords all kinda now make more sense. i used to blindly just do what he taught. my aim got worse doing his "overaim drills" and his play list. i just started doing the actual VDIM playlist and it dramatically improved my aim because of how basic his aim guides are (but he said all you need is to do this and DMs to get to immortal). but either way the biggest problem i have is how he put himself on a soapbox discrediting others for doing the exact same thing and not coming clean about it. hes almost built this cult like following like an MLM where people will avidly defend him regardless of how he made absolute boatloads financially off his lie.

I really do like the fact that throughout this video you state that he is one of the best coaches out there for most of valorant

"The scummiest content in Valorant" aged like milk bro.

Pokimane out here catching strays 😭😭 I would spend £1 to hang out with you :) Good vid as always my G

His account should get a permanent suspension due to boosting/getting boosted being against the rules.

I’ve not liked Woohoojin for a year now, not because of anything actually serious but because I got banned on his discord server for using the non sexual tag on all my messages because every message “had to use tags”- linked to a list of tags, which then had no sexual intent written on it, but I couldn’t use that tag specifically because ??? No reason given basically

riot should ban any players for being boosted by someone or boosting people but no they will never do this bc they love content creators

Im gonna put this comment into sections. Let me know if you agree with my take ❤ BOOSTING | "I am a radiant coach" The intro hits different now 😢 But I mean atleast he acknowledged some of his wrongdoings which is a step in the right direction. Now he just needs to reach radiant. I do believe he has the skill for it. He’s just not using it 🥲 My opinion on the criticism | However I don’t see your video as "drama farming" you’re literally just reporting on the news and giving your opinion which I don’t see why that’s bad unless the video itself was highly inaccurate Which in your case it’s not. Everything is accurate I just think some people are quite biased, upset or don’t fully quite understand/know the situation. And I don’t think you did anything wrong in this situation. It’s just some people are just upset 💀 And yeah he shouldn’t have boosted in the past and it was a bad idea Learning Experience & Confusion | But I’m sure he’s learned from that experience however I still don’t understand why he’s not going for radiant If he’s really that confident in his abilities. EDIT: so about the learning experience confusion part. I’ve sort of misunderstood the situation, I thought he wasn’t gonna go for radiant in the beginning but while rewatching the video. I’ve realized he is going to try to go for radiant but with raze. My Bad! ❤❤ Loss of Trust | I think the biggest take from this is that he lost some of our trust in him as a person 💁‍♂️ Obviously it may take a while to rebuild that but realistically if he just reached radiant then realistically all of this wouldn’t be that much of an issue Obviously it wouldn’t fix everything but it would atleast give more assurance to the people that lose trust in him. Im mainly neutral on this situation and I don’t think anyone should boost Coaching Prices | Also I think 850 dollars is absurd to get coached. I’d understand if this was like a one year plan or something. Even then it’d still be a bit ridiculous but still fairly understandable But as far as I’m aware I don’t think it is. And if it is a year plan then I believe there should be cheaper options for shorter plans Like monthly for example. If he wanted to make money from coaching. But I don’t really know 😅 Also I feel like the most RU-vidrs are now getting exposed or getting themselves involved in drama nowadays 😅 But yeah I hope he reaches his radiant and learned his lesson. ❤

the neace of valorant

hmmm honestly tho the argument about like people getting boosted going into coaching and taking away opportunities from “more deserving” coaches isn’t really that compelling. first there’s the fact that excelling in social media is like a skill in and of itself so i don’t necessarily know that being radiant alone makes you “more deserving” of an audience wanting to be coached; then there’s the fact that at the end of the day coaching ability matters a lot too so I think if you’re radiant and you’re super good at giving good advice you’d eventually build your own community via reputation and work your way to the top. definitely agree it was a scummy thing to lie about, but just can’t get behind this whole motif of taking away opportunities from allegedly more deserving radiant players given the quality of woohoojin’s advice thus far

I love hooj because how good he is for his job and I am sad that Hooj is dealing with a lot of controversy about this. Jeyg is a good friend of Hooj and I respect both of them. I still love every technical videos from Hooj because it helps me to understand about the game.

funniest part is he is kinda lying about being challenger in league aswell, since he only reached chall in flex queue (which is by league players perceived as a joke), i dont hate on him as a person, but i think he kinda knew he would need the radiant status for the coaching to boom just like he probably did in league where he apparently boosted accounts

shii im plat 2 also hard stuck i learn a lot from him

So he is an radiant coach just not a radiant player.

The fact that i was higher rank than him all along is funnt to me. Im immo 2 rn and hes immo 1 peak 💀

It is the banana guy, it's hard to hate; you know this. Absolutely, strange he won't drop this radient. Balanced coverage man. It is tough, the banana is cool He does have a girlfriend in the other school. He will be radiant eventually - important to call this shit out.

Cheaters… cheaters everywhere…

why you took down the palestine artwork ?

You can’t even chat in his live stream on twitch and RU-vid bro only let his subscribers to chat

And he even lied darshan when talking about his Jett play, Darshan asked if had clips or montages of radiant Jett play, look out woohj response lol.

Wohoojin could just de-rank to immortal, and then go back to radiant himself, this would "restore" the timeline so to speak.

He scammed money.

My private coach, coached T1 Rossy and other Valorant pros and semi pros. I pay 225 a month for a guaranteed 2 sessions a week on top of an updated aim routine every week based off benchmarks. Also I can schedule more sessions if there are vacant times, free of charge. Clout is a hell of a drug

the only reason I climbed from stupid bronze to plat is by watching Wohoojin, so it doesn't matter to me as a viewer if he puts up a dedicated video to say he lied about being a radiant his content is usually coaching stuff He also addressed the issue in a stream so .... does it matter if he puts a video up or not. people on his RU-vid come to his channel to watch coaching staff not controversy

Bruh. When I first found you. I really appreciated your content. The first few videos. It's crazy how fast you've fallen into reactionary hate farming content. And not even holding your position to at least say #freepalestine (Genocide still happening btw). I like you man. Do better.

Doesnt he say in all his vids "all my coaching is free i will never charge"? but yet hes charging $2k for lessons?

The thing about hooj is that he may have been boosted but that does not change what he does. I was yardstick gold for months and he was on aspect to me hitting ascendant very recently

He had chats with his stream chat. Posted it to the drama channel in his Discord and pinned it. Tried posting those links here, but the post was deleted, probably because of the links. Honestly, people make mistakes. He's apologized and knows he fucked up by keeping that secret. He's proven himself and helped tons of people, worked with the likes of FakeAnannas to help them fix some issues. The auctioned coaching was a one time thing and those people vouched for the coaching they received. It wasn't just a one time coaching session like what Jollz does for what he charged, hence why he said the free vod reviews were good for most people.

I don't hate that woohoojin can coach and has decent quality stuff. However i never liked his personality and always had a bad feeling about him. He felt like he was on a high horse of sorts especially on the tarik situation that he even gave his opinion on. I guess i was right.

Great vid, the amount of ppl defending him is wild. Most of the community doesn't understand why this is such a big deal

Its funny that I knew woohoojin hit radiant in the early time of valorant because his mechanics are not even immo 2 level. He criticizes people vods but he is only saying it because its after the fact. He is not going to do what he says in his games.

Good content for sure. But lying and proclaiming himself as something while talking down on lower ranks and acting like some moral beacon when he’s the biggest rat of them all shouldn’t be taken lightly

I’d still rather watch someone who actively dedicates himself to helping other people get better than people hate farming him for content. Boosted or not he’s done more for the community than almost any other creator and that’s a fact. Hate him all you want while the heat is on, but people will still always go back to him because he’s the best coach with the best accessible and easy to follow content.

You're plat 2, which is why you don't realize Woohoojin's coaching is bad. A lot of people already called out that he was a fraud before this reddit post. His coaching isn't good. If it was good he wouldn't be stuck in ascendant. He could maybe get you there.

You may not be the brightest person, but your massive forehead does shine quite brightly.

This did not have to be 16 mins

Bruh with 800 dollars, I can literally pay a kid's school tution in India (1-10 grade/standard).

def drama farming lmao

u said that also about jollz that he was boosted and he did it again stop blaming people please

Woohoojin advertises himself as a radiant-level coach, it doesn't necessarily mean that he has gotten radiant, it means that he is on par with radiants 💀

hold on why is this a big deal? Its like false advertising that doesnt hurt ANYBODY. This like one of those lies that literally doesnt matter, I think its even net positive if anything. Lying isnt always inherently bad. This would be a problem if hooj blew up and couldnt coach people to radiant and all of his coaching was a lie. He IS a radiant coach (somebody who can coach you up to radiant) and as a coach he is REALLY fucking good and has (me included I will admit the bias) ranked up at bare minimum hundreds of people, radiant players and even pros has pros that respect his coaching. I do also firmly believe that hooj could get to radiant but hasnt because coaching is a more profitable trade off for his time, if you watched hooj's streams as a person i could see him rationalizing using the "Ive been radiant" even though he was boosted and telling himself hes good enough to hit radiant he'd just rather do coaching instead. Im a fan of hooj, his advice makes sense, and ive watched enough of his content to personally think hes a pretty decent person, if you wanna hate him for lying, because lying is bad, more power too you, but as controversies go for what it is and the impact its had I dont think its worth getting upset and hating a content creator you enjoy and benefit from, I think if this has upset you personally forgiveness is an extremely valid road to take. Edit i wrote this in the middle of the video LOL Edit 2: Hooj's private coaching isnt like an hour vod review, its a 1v1 class essentially, dude will probably watch multiple vods with you a week as you rank up, give you homework to do, show you practice routines, give you playbooks, give you top level strategies and explanations of how the maps work, multitudes of lineups and unknown things about an agent. This heavily falls in line with just false advertising a (imo) phenomenal 11/10 product. My morals support this in other facets so Im plenty okay with it in this situation as well, idfk I think this would be exactly like if a somebody advertised weed like it could extend your life by 10 years but it only actually did by 1 year, yea theyre lying to you but like its still a net positive to people, somebody may not smoke for only an extra one year but a hell of a lot more will if they think its for 10. I hope my explanation makes sense, I know Hooj admitted guilt and that what he did was wrong but I genuinely think hoojs actions are excusable. Now i will say if hooj wasnt able to get you to radiant we'd have a whole other story on our hands but the fact that he consistently can get people there validates his actions. TL;DR Arguement: Hooj lied but its fine cause his lie hasnt harmed anybody

im a fan of woohoojin and im trying not to be biased because i was shocked when i found out as well but to be fair this doesn't seem like a big deal. personally his content has helped me and many other people become better players and i don't doubt he has hit radiant before on his own. i see where you are coming from but at the end of the day we are arguing about a couple of pixels on the screen being red instead of gold to give someone credibility or discredit someone. the fact he has not hit radiant doesn't change anything other than the fact that he lied about his rank for clout. good content is good content period

I would like to see woohoojin to go ahead and hit radiant on stream which he easily can just to shut all yall up

dont care

You have good content but you ramble way too much

bro hes not boosted he got coached by CHARLA7AN

Bro none of this matters, he’s a good coach. If you have a passion with a supposed barrier to entry, fake it till you make it and your ability will speak for itself. It’s fucking valorant, lying about your rank in a video game so it’s easier for you to help people for free mind you is not a bad thing, as a matter of fact I think more people should do this

nothing of value was added

cry XD

Eh, sure you can dig up this past drama back up for some cookie points but his channel is over with it, the haters already left and Woohoojin already turned the Ascendant coach into a joke. He’s already on his way to immortal and hopefully to radiant to actually validate his status. Nice drama bait attempt anyways.

He's an awesome coach, his videos are easily digestible and helped me climb, but he is also kinda cringe.

Alright, firstly imma say that I'm not trying to disprove what you've found, nor trying to pull you or your content down. I honestly think these types of videos where you purposefully try to show someone's faults is unnecessary. You don't know his true intentions of why he had someone play on his account or why he got boosted. You don't know how each and every one of his viewers feel. I agree with you that some people may feel mad at someone getting boosted, and that's fine to say that to people, but don't try to pull everything they've built down just because of one cracked brick. Woohoojin has gotten to where he has because of his skill as a coach. You yourself said that he is one of the best coaches there are in the content creation area at this time. That's all that matters. If people want to blow that $800, then let them. You used the analogy of saying that cigarettes cause lung cancer, and even though people are warned, they still do it. That's because they find enjoyment in it, and they don't care about the repercussions, and neither do the people who spend that money on getting coached by one of the best. I doubt the difference between Radiant and Immortal 3 268RR is going to do much of anything. As you also said, he most likely would have gotten to where he is now saying he's Immortal, so why does it matter to the point where you are saying that he has to pay? He's apologized for it, said he isn't going to do it again, and still provides the same content he always has been. It's not going to randomly get worse now that he says he's Immortal, and he's not all the sudden going to play worse now that he can't say he hit Radiant. TLDR: bro everyone makes mistakes, he admitted to it, his community is informed, and they still watch him and respect him. anyone who doesn't can decide to leave or stop watching, simple as that. there's no need for you to go onto a whole rant slandering his apology to his community constantly trying to say how it's all fake just so you can feel good, or for whatever reason you do it.

Bro thinks anyone is gonna watch this and start watching him instead, this is the most unnecessary hater ass video of all time

All of you mad at him for not coming out with the truth immediately really are acting like y'all would actually come out with the truth immediately if you were in his situation, which I know y'all would not so maybe you should do a little self reflection before hating

lmfao cool, another creator who farms hate, ez clicks, ez likes, bro has def hit radiant before and will do it again everyone hating are people hardstuck and want to hate on a coach

i called woohoojin out before this and no one cared