We accidently swapped the pricing info at 1:52. The correct as-tested prices are $47,360 for the Ranger and $50,545 for the Tacoma. Would you rather daily a Tremor or build a TRD? Read more edmu.in/3tN0rB5
I have a built 2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road so my answer is easy. Not quite as easy to customize as some "other" trucks, but not as expensive either. One point worth considering is, how negotiable are Ford prices vs Toyota...specifically Tacoma? Great review, I agree with all points made...keeping my Tacoma for a few more years/decades 👍🏼
Articulation is useless when it comes to moose test. Specially when you drive in curve lane with cargo at the back at 40 to 60 miles per hour. Toyota frame sucks and bounces.The frame of toyota is weak compare to ford very strong. I am sure you already watch Competition of F150, Dodge, Chevy and Tundra. Tundra frame is very weak that is why in the test it bounces so hard
I own a Ranger Lariat FX4 with upgraded Fox shocks, Goodyear offroad tires, and rock sliders. My last truck was a TRD Pro. Love them both. Ford better on road and TRD a bit better offroad. If I had to buy again, I would go Ford, but only slightly.
I have owned both as well. I would never ever get a tacoma again. For me it was the horrible seating position and the horrible site line out the front. The windshield on the Tacoma is so small when I pulled up to red lights I couldn't even see them. Resale is sick on Tacoma, but I need a decent vehicle. Ranger no brainer for me.
@@drn13355 Having driven both extensively I'm in full disagreement. The seating position is only a no-go if you know next to nothing about control ergonomics (set it up like a sports car). Ranger has had horribly balanced front to rear dampening that gets only worse with speed, on both the FX4 package and Lariat. Which pissed me off as I had experience with the previous euro-rangers that did not have this messed up suspension issue at 100KM+ speeds. The tacoma may have a more "trucky" suspension, but I can say that compared to the ranger, your ass, hands and shoulders weren't screaming three different things at 65mph+; especially over crests. I've not noticed your issue with overhead cross-section lights. Maybe you should try sitting correctly with your seat pulled forward till your knee has a good bend without pressing the pedal, and almost full extension on the floor, your wrist can sit at the 12'o clock position with your shoulders against the seat, and the seat bottom at as much of an decline (front up, rear down) as possible focusing most weight on your butt. This will one correct the issue with sight line, but also allow you to have better leverage on the controls with less movement, and more connection to the vehicle via parts of the bottom that are most sensitive to inertia. I wanted to love the ranger because of my previous experience with them in Spain and Queensland (along with the discounts back here in the U.S.), but fucking Ford had to fuck up an old chassis with messed up suspension, a drivetrain combo I don't trust for any work outside of delivery vans and weird option lists than really aren't clear to our more less familiar customers to muddle the waters on what your are getting. I'd rather take a Canyon/Colorado or Tacoma at similar price point than any ranger. That's without getting into the lazy job they did with interior space efficency, the utility of the truck bed, and the fact that out of all of the crew cabs, the ranger was the only one (with throwing the ridgeline for good measure) who's crew cab should have been called an "extended cab with crash support".
What Goodyear off road tires did you get because I'm going to get the Goodyear Wrangler duratrac for my new ranger and was wondering if you like your tires or not please let me know
@@paulpeters5199 I love my Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac tires. I have offroaded (is that a word?) in Colorado, New Mexico, and Montana and have been very pleased. I will get them again when it becomes time. Good luck sir.
Right. People fanboy over "reliable Tacoma" yet they got weak frames that rust to hell and back and is an off-road vehicle but yet it has plastic bumpers. Tacoma transmission also sucks. Ranger may have a 4 banger turbo but it will be cheap to replace compared to other engines even if it only last 150k miles. Plus Tacoma engine is dated.
@@private6549 tacoma will outlast that ford no problem and as for rusty toyota frames ,that was only for a few model years back in the 2000’s , that turbo 4 banger shit won’t even last 200000 miles lmao
@@acadianr2leger Did you not read my full comment? Turbo 4 cylinders are actually cheap to replace compared to most other engines so it won't be a problem if it "only" last 100-175k miles and not 200k-300k miles.
@@private6549Turbo engines are cheap to replace? Really? Where on another planet? If you like spending money on something that’s not reliable then go ahead lol, buy a Toyota and save yourself some money and trouble at the end of the day plus at least you’ll have resale value when you’re done with it
@@acadianr2leger "Buy a Toyota and save yourself some money." That is a bunch of bullshit. Toyotas are the most expensive truck out there especially in the used market due to super high resale value. Not paying the price of a 3/4 ton for a mid-sized truck when I can just buy a used Ranger for much, MUCH cheaper. Look up replacement engines, the Ecoboost is cheap compared to bigger engines like V6s and V8s.
I've Driven Both Trucks i like the Ford Ranger Much better its engineered better. Also i had an old Ford Ranger that ran over 300,000 Miles Great Trucks
Ive got one that had that many miles by 2001...lost track now, but it will start -20F after sitting 4 months, no lifter tick or anything. It's got the pushrod 4.0L v6 ohv. 2wd manual trans, no power ANYTHING but its an XLT. Go figure.
Bought a 2021 Tremor, absolutely Love it. Plenty of Power, thought about the Tacoma but dated body style and tow capacity is why I opted for the Ford. Plus I’ve still got a 25 year old Ranger that’s still going!
Dated body style for the tacoma? Do you know how old the ramger platform is over seas ???? The front end.of the ranger looks like 2013 taurus. You can be serious about your comment right?
I owned a 2010 Tacoma TRD Off Road and got rid of it and got the Ranger Lariat FX4 2020. The differences are vast. I am 6'3 and I actually fit in the Ranger. The comfort level in the Ranger compared to Tacoma is enormous. Powertrain is better in Ranger. A major SP for Tacoma was resale which is great, but Trucks overall are so popular in USA right now they are all holding their value. I will stick with Ranger for now.
Nice review! I just got a Tremor and LOVE it...it was a significantly better price. There is an available tuner (actually From Ford) that significantly boost the horsepower and torque. Both are great trucks I think the Ford made more sense for me.
I think Toyota's reliability is a misconception, people who buy them expect them to last long so they take care of/ and drive them as if they are keeping the vehicle for 10+ years. If you proform the required maintenance, any vehicle will last 200k plus miles.
The Tacoma is a great truck, no doubt. However, neither truck was actually tested anywhere near their limits in this video. The Ford very likely did not "NEED" to have the rear locker engaged to finish that hill climb. Also, the Ford doesn't just "slightly" exceed the Toyota in towing and payload capacity. The Ranger Tremor has a payload capacity of 1430 pounds versus 1155 pounds for the Tacoma TRD off road when both are outfitted as they were in this test. The Ranger also offers 7500 pounds of tow capacity, yes, even in Tremor trim, versus the Tacoma's 6400 pounds. In this class of pickup 275 pounds of payload and 1100 pounds of towing is not insignificant. At the absolute limits the Tacoma will no doubt offer just a bit more off road capability. In the real world where those limits will almost never be reached the Ranger is the better truck. The guy doing the test, as almost everyone who drives the Tacoma does, commented on the unnatural and uncomfortable seating position of the Tacoma but still states he would choose it. Dude, pull the bias plug and let that stuff drain. The Tundra is comfortable and livable. The Tacoma is so uncomfortable that it feels like a different company designed it. Whatever truck you personally choose to drive is just that, a personal choice. But when you are reviewing vehicles it's time to leave your personal opinions at the door. The Tacoma is the more capable truck 3 percent of the time and in situations 99 percent of buyers of either truck will never get themselves into. The rest of the time the Ranger is the better truck. Perhaps more unreliable but while it runs I'd take the Ranger.
Absolutely true! I've owned a '19 Ranger XLT FX4 for 4yrs thats been impeccable. I love this generation Ranger so much i just ordered a '23 Ranger XLT Tremor last Fri. Wanted to get the best edition of this Ranger before the all new '24 Ranger debuts fall '23. You cannot beat the proven high performance Gen2 TGDI powertrain in Ranger. It's very understressed actually. It's actually good for up to 400hp! Just an awesome truck. Home run Ford!
It seems like every one is having a whining diff in there 19 20 and 21 tacoma's. Most of the top magazines have taken the tacoma off there best buy and replacing it with the ranger.
Good points - I do think the TRD Off Road (4x4) is the smarter choice for about 10K less than the Pro. I purchased my (2019) TRD OR 4x4 Double Cab new in Jan of '19. I have put 93K miles on it so far - with many of those miles in 4WD. I own a horse farm and have indeed found this truck to be VERY impressive off road. However I find it just as impressive on road, obviously I drive a LOT. The ride is nice, the storage is WONDERFUL, and the fact that is has been totally dependable means a lot. As for dependability, we have another Tacoma - a 2002 TRD OFF Road 4x4 (my son's truck now). That truck is put through he wringer as well...it now has 245K miles, and has had nothing other than routine maintenance (timing belt was replaced - though it did not fail, we just did it a maintenance recommend)...Toyota has earned its reputation for reliability - at least in our house.
This vid is outdated. Ranger tremors off the lot will cost you a lot less and have far more rebates and most sell at MSRP. Tacoma is the opposite. Some are selling for damn 55k now.
Just purchased the 21 Ranger Tremor with the Lariat trim in cactus grey. Had it about a week now and it's a blast to drive. Has plenty of power, drives smooth, has a cozy yet also surprisingly roomy interior and yeah, it looks great. Have received many compliments. I have a few niggling complaints but certainly nothing major. One is I wish it had a PNRDS readout beside the shifter as well as the dash. Another is I can't believe Ford didn't include a tailgate damper with the Lariat package. I do love the spray-in bed liner. Very professionally installed with no bubbles or smears and the Ford logo on the rear bulkhead is a nice touch. I'm surprised at how quiet the cab is when going 75 on the interstate. Infotainment unit is very easy to use and has everything you could think of lol. Looking forward to taking it four wheeling over the holidays. All in all I am very pleased with this truck. Great job Ford! (Edit - I meant a lighted PNRDS. Can't see it at night)
I prefer the ranger, its better in most categories. Rangers also have historically been great trucks, very sturdy. As are Toyotas but the Ford is just a better truck
I drove a ranger tremor 75k hard miles working in extreme remote areas in California while working for pg&e. The truck is a company truck but damn it never failed me. That's through mountains and rocky hills, slippery wet rainy roads, snowy mountains etc. It is extremely amazing. Has built in navigation systems etc. Everything that most people need.
Ranger is much more of a value. The Ranger bumpers are steel with plastic covers and the electronic-locking rear differential is limited-slip, so it'll engage even if you don't lock it. Plus, it's A LOT more capable in towing & payload.
I’ve tested both, extensively. Decided on a TRD pro Tacoma with a manual transmission. While the ranger’s turbo power plant scoots, I just don’t feel good about long term reliability of the boosted ranger. FYI, if you opt for a manual trans Tacoma, you lose a handful of features. No JBL, no crawl control, no terrain management. Well worth it for me, I hate that automatic Tacoma trans.
The only reason the Taco will NEVER be better than the Ranger is the fact that if you own a Taco, you have to drive all over with TuRDs all over your vehicle.
Save yourself money and get the FX4 ranger or the TRD off road taco. Either truck would be great, I personally do not like the Taco. I drove one for 2 years for work, don't like how the seat sits mostly. Out of these two, I would go ranger. However, I will stick with my 4 runner.
All Rangers, every trim line have front and rear (Steel Bumpers) just middle plastic incents. Also All Rangers, every trim line has a full size spare tire.
Been eyeing these up. In my area, comparing xlt tremor package to trd pro package is a $12,000 difference. Fuel economy is better in the Ranger. I really love the Taco, but I will probably end up with the Ranger due to economics
Plus with the ranger you getting better payload, rear disc brakes, more towing and better sitting position. Not sure what you ended up purchasing in the end. To be honest you can't go wrong with either
@Chano Leyva yeah ecoboosts don't blow dude. They're designed for boost. Taco engines are boring and severely lack power in high elevation. Turbos in the mountains are a wonderful thing.
@Chano Leyva yeah that's simply not true. I've owned several gens of the ecoboost. Highly reliable. Ford would outsell the piss out of the competition if they're engines were shit. No one comes close. They're building a 310 horsepower 4 banger as a base. In fact Jeep just copied that plan on the Ex4. Toyota just copied They're 3.5 twin turbo set up of the new Tundra. You can also thank Ford for the TRX. Everything Ford does, Mopar, Toyota and GM follow and everyone ignores that. Just wait till they copy the Lighting. It's coming mark my words.
@Chano Leyva cam phasers are noisy but they don't affect performance. Timing chains aren't any different than Timing belts. They need replaced and aren't even any harder to do. No they don't go through turbos that bullshit unless you don't know how to drive and engine with a turbo. You're supposed to let turbos cool at idle before shutting down the engine. My point is, if you're a car person, ecoboost is the way to go. Easy and cheap gains, gas mileage and reliability. If they sucked, they wouldn't sell. And ecoboosts designs sucked, other manufacturers would be copying them. Who's copying Hemis? No one, because ecoboost gives you power and mileage. My Raptor has a ton of power but gets 27 mpg if a drive it like a bitch. A hellcat gets 16 mpg no matter how nice you drive it. Why wouldn't I take both? Taco engines are boring, underpowered and struggle bad in altitude. Pretty simple decision.
You need to look at the more intense off-road videos to come on versus ranger I’ve done the research I’ve seen all the videos the Ranger is more powerful and doesn’t get bogged down off-road it’s easy to put a 3 inch lift or even a 6 inch lift on the Ranger to make the clearance what I’m saying is the power is there you can do anything to the truck and the Tacoma is behind the times with that old engine I could’ve got up that hill without locking the rear dif
Articulation is useless when it comes to moose test. Specially when you drive in curve lane with cargo at the back at 40 to 60 miles per hour. Toyota frame sucks and bounces.The frame of toyota is weak compare to ford very strong. I am sure you already watch Competition of F150, Dodge, Chevy and Tundra. Tundra frame is very weak that is why in the test it bounces so hard
I wanted a Tacoma so bad a couple years back, but the acceleration and seating position were a let down. But this ranger seems to solve all that. Might get one of these once my little fiesta st quits (which might be never bc it keeps on taking abuse). 😂
I’m buying a tremor and I also have a fiesta ST. I love my FiST lol, it’s my second one after someone totaled my first one. I honestly love it as an all around car and daily driver.
@@seadoo4life127 you can just unbolt them and remove or buy after market ones that sweep back to give you a little extra room. Added the Ford Motorsport tune. She runs really good and very happy with it. Normal feels like sport and sport is now burnout mode 😎. See ya taco and Colorado
@@Hitman-zi1fv ooooh I saw videos of people hacking away at them! I was thinking nooooo way. Plus I will be leasing soooo. I only saw the regular model though. Non lifted XLT being cut.
@@CaseySchneider there job is to help keep the tire from going into the fire wall. They are just another what if safety device. They are not soiled rods and only held in with a bolt so taking them out isn’t much of a loss
I have no idea what Hunter Biden looks like because I don't give two shits about fake news organizations trying to smear people with the mistakes their children made... But since Trump in a landslide popular vote, and quite decisively in the EC, I'd say most people don't care about Hunter Biden and his demons.
So much hate in these comments. Larlos Cago did a great job and looks great doing COVID desert chic. Tacoma v Ranger... the Ranger is the better value, but that Tacoma is so over-engineered. 3 out of the past 4 Fords that I've had have required multiple trips to the dealership for fixes, though. That said, this is a hard choice here.
Let's say my new ranger being an FX4, 2019, has gone through really rough terrain with out as much issue like he showed for having to put the rear locker on. Not to say he wasn't fair, I wasn't there to see the hill in person to see how each of the tires reacted on the hill.
As for mine going to the dealership...all due to the dealership not doing a thing on fixing it till recently and that's after showing a few videos of the radio at times not displaying the information. That's just a bad radio and nothing to due with the mechanics of the truck.
Weird statement to make that you didn't need to use the locking diff with the tacoma. You also didn't stop in the middle of the hill with the taco like you did with the ranger.
i have a 2020 ranger XLT but its the just the Fx4 "1 the bumpers aren't plastic! 2 with the Tacoma having a v6 you would think better towing and load capacity but no was rather disappointed but the ranger vs Tacoma also in mpg my ranger in city is about 18-19mpg but on the highway using cruse control 24-25mpg! so that to me is also important also i love the gauge cluster where you can also see the power distribution and degree of angle your at! which is sometimes handy" hearing about all the new goodies on the new ranger with the tremor package im actually thinking about trading my Fx4 in for the tremor but im also hearing the ranger raptor is possibly coming to the US?
Ranger: more powerful engine, better transmission, better crawl ratio Tacoma: old engine, problematic transmission, not as fuel efficient even though its Toyota (they know how to make efficient cars..Prius) I get reliability but everything else makes me say why Tacoma? I feel like Toyota could do so much better but doesn't.
Whats missing in most of these reviews is how does a specific vehicle feel when driving rough washboarded roads? Does it just feel like a truck version of Ford Focus or does it feel like its gliding over the imperfections almost like you're on a regular road...
Question, what made him use the locking differential in the Ranger? I didn't see anything going wrong where he needed to engage it. Vehicle just came to a stop.
The Tacoma comes up short on powertrain (minivan cough) and makes it a non-starter for anyone towing a camper, side-by-side, sleds, or boat. It will do it, but will suck at it. Same with 4-Runner.
My wife's stock 4runner Limited could do all this, no problem! My stock tacoma TRD with the after market tires you have on that hair dryer 4 banger, would out work that all day long. Plus it's a farm truck with 385000 MILES.
definitely don't need a trailer hitch accessory maraca... Just run the hitch pin through the receiver after you slide a recovery strap into the receiver, and this way you don't drag your maraca (IDK how to spell maraca, but that's what auto correct suggested)
Taco fan boys and brand loyalty. All Ford truck guys probably stick with the F-150 and don't feel the need to go smaller. Any unbiased person can see the Ranger is better bang for your buck.
Give it time! I just bought my very first truck. Tacoma and ranger were my two targets and I went with the ranger tremor! When they update the ranger in 2 years it'll be a slam dunk