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Troubleshooting the TXV 

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@randyfalkosky8579
@randyfalkosky8579 2 года назад
30 years and this is the first time I have seen a TXV tested this way. Very cool !! much easier too.
@rodgraff1782
@rodgraff1782 Год назад
Way back in 1973, at the US Naval school of Air Conditioning and Refrigeration, I was taught that the function of a TXV was “to meter the proper amount of refrigerant according to the heat load, and to maintain superheat. I still taught that to my apprentices until 2019. Your presentations are the best that I have seen in my 45 years in HVAC, both as a field service engineer and apprenticeship instructor. Keep the videos comming
@P9rkour90
@P9rkour90 3 месяца назад
Wow you’ve been in the field for many years and I’m sure has worked on many different kinds of unit! A lot of experience under ur belt! 👍
@elgringoec
@elgringoec Год назад
That was great, Eric! Highly informative, well delivered. But am I in trouble??? I'm not a professional HVAC technician. Nor have I ever been to HVAC school. But I do have a manifold gauge set. Couple, actually. And I did take and pass the EPA certification and have a universal rating. Fwiw. But I've been doing my own HVAC since before the certification idea that came about as a result of the govt forced elimination of R22. I hope that lets me participate. 😂 I followed you fully and really appreciated learning this method of checking TXV operation.
@marconantel7735
@marconantel7735 2 года назад
Incredible. I never heard of such a test, great info!
@exclusive_148
@exclusive_148 2 года назад
if its bad whats going to happen at the suction pressure? It will go up?
@josephsomeone1611
@josephsomeone1611 2 года назад
Yes sir, not a HVAC tech person; I did the compressor fan removal wire test for the TXV on my 4-ton Trane system. I took the purple wire off of the run start, common capacitor, rather than the contactor as shown by you in U-tube video. The contactor was more difficult to reach than the purple wire on the capacitor, same result, the fan stopped turning. I watched the low side pressure stat within 5 to 10 psig of the original value while the head pressure went to 300psig. A very smart way to check the TXV, thank you so much for the demonstration! I was not looking forward to taking the plenum apart to get to the air dryer and the TXV bulb to test them. Thank you Sir, regards Joseph
@maxpigeon
@maxpigeon 4 месяца назад
"You can't watch the sensing bulb and the suction pressure at the same time." *Job Link probes have entered the chat*
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 3 месяца назад
That's a good one! meanwhile, by the time you have taken those fancy gadgets out of their padded case, and done all the work to dig the sensing bulb out of it's home, and put it back nicely and fixed all the armaflex and cork tape and mastic you had to remove to get to the little bugger, the tech who followed this advice is already paid and on to the next job or at home with their family at a decent hour!
@zesty2023
@zesty2023 Месяц назад
@@hvacservicementor oh fuck, burn XD
@watchandlearn23
@watchandlearn23 2 месяца назад
Thank you I learned make more videos
@GRJCLyon
@GRJCLyon Год назад
I’m sure compliments on a video that is a few years old will always be appreciated so here is another one. Thank you for making this great video. This helped me a lot while diagnosing my sweating liquid line. I wasn’t sure if it was a txv problem or a restricted liquid drier. This will help eliminate me opening up the txv for no reason. Kudos to you for your knowledge. Thank you!
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 11 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@davidgearardo1788
@davidgearardo1788 6 месяцев назад
as a new tech here, that shows that the TXV was operating properly, if it was bad would my suction line pressures rise as well or decrease?
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 6 месяцев назад
If TXV is frozen in some mid position, it will behave like a fixed metering device and suction pressure will rise along side the head pressure.
@blackericdenice
@blackericdenice Год назад
I’m a truck driver and I decided to replace my evaporator and condenser myself. I will try this when I get home.
@mbahcarrier1629
@mbahcarrier1629 Год назад
Thank you for the knowledge, success for "HVAC ......." ... Pekalongan, Central Java, Indonesia attended
@michaelcostello6991
@michaelcostello6991 3 года назад
This was a super !!! video. You get to test the TXV without pulling things apart and risking doing damage. Thank you.
@martingates6501
@martingates6501 2 года назад
But you don't need to test a txv when everything it's ok, if the system is operating good, it's not necessary to do this
@jeraldlockhart2046
@jeraldlockhart2046 Год назад
That all depends on if the airflow is correct and the line set is correct and there’s no kinks etc..❤
@theprofessor5584
@theprofessor5584 Месяц назад
Great video, but i had an issue where the walk in freezer coil was not doing a good job cooling the space, superheat at the evap was 39, Suction pressure 17psi, i had to charge the unit to get proper subcool values, how cam i use the information in this video to diagnose a restricted txv? I know this video can indicate if a txv is stuck open but what about an restriction where the txv cant allow much refrigerant through? I already checked across the drier and other places
@Jamie-po9zk
@Jamie-po9zk Год назад
I dont trust this guy.. he still has all his hair
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor Год назад
you should see the back of my head!😀
@curtisdupre5194
@curtisdupre5194 3 месяца назад
I like him😅
@Danny-pp1gk
@Danny-pp1gk 5 месяцев назад
During this test test (ie raising head pressure) if pressure remains the same then TXV is good. What would bad look like. How much change in the suction pressure would be considered bad.
@lucianosilipo5024
@lucianosilipo5024 3 месяца назад
But... The condenser is not condensing without the fan.. you are feeding hot gas into the txv.. how are you testing to TXV when you are creating a fault for the TXV to not work properly?
@johnbipper4601
@johnbipper4601 Год назад
Unplug condenser fan and watch suction pressure, it should have little or no change if the TXV is metering correctly.
@jeraldlockhart2046
@jeraldlockhart2046 Год назад
So if I wanna open up the TXV I should pull the lead off the fan motor inside so that unit freezes up instantly that should lead in a dick ton refrigerant😢😂😊 huh lol
@AdrianaWilliams-q4r
@AdrianaWilliams-q4r 13 дней назад
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@smacleod69
@smacleod69 3 года назад
I do a lot of maintenance calls and if the system is cooling pressures look good. I am not going to open up a can of worms. If that txv is stuck and acting like a piston and there is no problem with cooling. l et it go!
@woodworkingfan1965
@woodworkingfan1965 2 месяца назад
So if I’m testing a TXV on a geothermal heat pump, I can switch to heat to effectively do this same test?
@nunezravelin3898
@nunezravelin3898 2 года назад
Excellent video. Simple way to test a TXV. Thanks a lot for sharing this knowledge!
@davidwillkomm3484
@davidwillkomm3484 3 года назад
Thank you. I had to take a 32 oz wide mouth filled of ice water and ran back to the condenser to see if the txv was bad. It was. This is a better method. Like a professional instead of asking for a cup of water and running around to the unit.
@frankduarte7109
@frankduarte7109 10 дней назад
You are the man.. so what would I expect to see if I upped the head pressure with a bad txv? I see with a good txv the low side stayed the same
@BlackDynomight
@BlackDynomight Год назад
Very well explained, thank you sir.
@dawggaming-fi3pm
@dawggaming-fi3pm 3 года назад
This is a informative video that will help me a lot,related to my job .thank you so much for sharing your knowledge 🙌
@xincai951
@xincai951 2 года назад
Is it possible to have a functioning TXV, ie maintaining superheat, but superheat is high? Check liquid line temp between condenser and evaporator, about 1F difference so no restriction.
@fascistpedant758
@fascistpedant758 Месяц назад
@1:54, I've had the 1968 edition since the late '70s.
@alexsilyaev1593
@alexsilyaev1593 Месяц назад
I very rarely write reviews but I decided to write you are truly God in this industry TNX!
@keithwukmir4452
@keithwukmir4452 3 года назад
Credit this guy is a celebrity. I'm I the old van or house or attic and need quick info. Redo 3 times. Distill until 4minuts 20 seconds to inform over worked underpaid abused technicians hopped up on coffee and under stress to perform like a master or lose money for thier family business.
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@OnePointLander
@OnePointLander Год назад
Couldn't you just spray water over the condenser as well?
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@mrfaulk7739
@mrfaulk7739 3 года назад
Great video not trying to over complicate things so only certain mindsets understand would be a great HVAC instructor
@mrfaulk7739
@mrfaulk7739 3 года назад
Many college professors can't get that when your dropping $100,000 on an education you deserve to learn how to do the job ...
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@TenaHosan Месяц назад
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@heatingcoolingstuff
@heatingcoolingstuff 3 года назад
This is a great video. Thank you so much.
@l.crossjr
@l.crossjr 2 месяца назад
Top notch explanation and with field example 👏
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@LonnieThomas-v4s 26 дней назад
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@macbagpipethehaggis3213
@macbagpipethehaggis3213 3 года назад
I'm figuring that was an r22 system
@maazahmed86
@maazahmed86 7 месяцев назад
If there are multiple evaporators connected with one single compressor, how do we check each of the txv's.
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 6 месяцев назад
That is very tough. Very nearly impossible.
@stan-r
@stan-r 2 года назад
Hi, I maintain over 100 Rheem package units at our resort. The other day, I responded to a call where water was leaking into the ceiling. When I arrived, the evaporator coil and compressor were covered in ice. There is a lot of debate around the shop as to why this happened. Airflow was okay. The coil was clean and after thawing everything out, the blower motor didn’t have any problems pulling the filter panel closed on it’s own. Some of the technicians believe that the doors to the room below were the cause because they were open to the4 hallway, even though the hallway was being cooled by another package unit. The high side gauge was only about 10 degrees above ambient (104 / 115), and the low side gauge was around 42 degrees. I’m accustom to seeing the high side gauge around 30 degrees above ambient. The compressor was pulling 15amps on all three legs and the condenser coil was clean. I moved the TXV bulb outside the unit, and nothing changed with the low side press/temp which made me pause. Adding refrigerant didn't change anything either. There was 6 degrees superheat and almost 0 degrees of sub cooling, but package units are difficult to make accurate measurements because all the components are tucked away in the cabinet. I think something is wrong with the TXV, but I don't know how to make a positive diagnosis with a package unit. The other technicians believe, that the coil can still freeze even with 75 degree air is flowing through it. Any thoughts?
@larkhill2119
@larkhill2119 Год назад
What are the temperatures on the filter dryer? Did you nail the problem?
@nilbertocohen4963
@nilbertocohen4963 2 месяца назад
In this case the txv valve was good or bad?
@annie16ization
@annie16ization 3 года назад
But why was your saturation temp so low? About 15 degrees assuming this unit uses 410a that’s well below freezing 🥶
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 3 года назад
Good eye. I didn't share the refrigerant that was is use because I't doesn't have a bearing on the validity of the test. It works for any refrigerant. This one happens to be R22.
@tonydelgrego2906
@tonydelgrego2906 3 года назад
Thanks That is an easy way to test it.
@rubencastillojr4645
@rubencastillojr4645 3 месяца назад
Thts a way to burn the fan 50 percent voltage disconnect the cap. Safer too
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 3 месяца назад
Disconnecting the common leg from the fan will not cause any damage to the motor. This is exactly how single pole contactors work.
@jascam1
@jascam1 3 года назад
Excellent video, I'm electronic tech (voice/data) but not HVAC, now I know what to look for when the HVAC tech shows up. They just replaced TXV on my new ( 6 month) Goodman Heat Pump with a piston.
@nsudatta-roy8154
@nsudatta-roy8154 2 года назад
Wow! Why in the world would they have done that? Sounds like you had zero comissioning on your system at install. Was it done at both the indoor and outdoor units? Also, sounds like you no longer have a valid warranty. There's a reason why the industry is moving away from fixed metering. Swapping out the TXV presents a problem for the next guy who comes to service your unit and rely on the manufacturer's "plate."
@anvibrimel41
@anvibrimel41 Год назад
I was told at school to go by Subcooling 3* +~ whatever the condenser data says
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor Год назад
Your school's recommendation is correct for charging units that are working normally and have that data on the rating plate. Not all of them do.
@petroman-cg8tt
@petroman-cg8tt Месяц назад
Great Video Joe H Navy Seabee
@YTsux24-7
@YTsux24-7 3 месяца назад
Brilliant, simply brilliant. 👏 Does blocking the intake or discharge air produce a similar result without removing live wiring and potentially shorting out something, like my lifespan?
@alphabears6342
@alphabears6342 3 дня назад
Also, where do you actually find cold iced water or hot water?
@mrfaulk7739
@mrfaulk7739 3 года назад
Usually for me that's when the spade pulls off
@renecuevas4128
@renecuevas4128 2 года назад
Tnks for the Disclaimer.....funny but true😏if u do not own a set of Gauges,,,,,,,,wow. So right in the Money
@petesingh292
@petesingh292 2 года назад
Great video, if TXV is bad both pressures should up when cond.fan disconnected and if TXV good only head pressure goes up? And suction remain same. Plz do reply , blessing from CA
@WesternReloader
@WesternReloader 9 месяцев назад
What if I buy a replacement TXV, that was R12, and now the only available is 134? My system is still R12… will the value of superheat be incorrect?
@jericosha2842
@jericosha2842 3 года назад
That's a really good test and explanation. Thanks for sharing.
@shine-cg9uf
@shine-cg9uf Год назад
👍💪🇺🇸❄️ Great information. ? Would this work on a walkin box with a pumpdown system with a liquid receiver n solenoid valve ?
@anvibrimel41
@anvibrimel41 Год назад
Thank you very much teacher
@abdolkarimmehrparvar6583
@abdolkarimmehrparvar6583 Год назад
i thought you're going to manipulate the indoor fan, is it the same?
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 11 месяцев назад
While manipulating airflow across the evaporator does have an effect, it is less dramatic than manipulating air flow across the condenser. Also, unless you have wireless gauges that read to your cell phone, it is kind of hard to see your gauges at the outdoor unit while you are at the indoor fan.
@texasacandheating5563
@texasacandheating5563 Год назад
This is the best explanation ever, 👏 thank you very much
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor Год назад
You're very welcome!
@thomasprice7266
@thomasprice7266 3 года назад
thank you for this video been looking for a good way to test
@bangtwister
@bangtwister Год назад
Thanks
@John-dp3ln
@John-dp3ln 2 года назад
Great video great instructor.
@heatingcoolingstuff
@heatingcoolingstuff 3 года назад
This is a great video. Thank you. This will help me a lot.
@785055
@785055 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing knowledge. Great video.
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor Год назад
My pleasure!
@JT-rz9he
@JT-rz9he Месяц назад
Best every!
@bbpullin449
@bbpullin449 2 года назад
I keep a roll of 30 gallon trash bags on my truck for this type of TXV test and checking/charging heat pumps.
@stevealoia
@stevealoia 2 года назад
I have a 410a unit m trying to figure out . If it the txv or not . Low side is 158 Psig with 17 sh and 288 psig on the high with AC if 1.4 Would the txv be bad thanks
@maintenanceproreviews
@maintenanceproreviews 7 месяцев назад
What if it is a walk in freezer and it has a headmaster control?
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 6 месяцев назад
Try it and see. let me know.
@jpechacek80
@jpechacek80 9 месяцев назад
Is the procedure the same for heating with a heat pump?
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 6 месяцев назад
In cooling mode, yes. I wouldn't bother with it in heating mode.
@falfighter
@falfighter Год назад
will a bad txv cause over amping?
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 11 месяцев назад
A TXV that is slammed shut or mostly shut will cause the head pressure to soar and can cause higher amp draw on the compressor. In that case, it won't run very long for you to take a meaurement before the internal pressure relief opens and the amp draw drops very low.
@josuelujan7736
@josuelujan7736 3 года назад
Thanks for your help.
@donaldpainter956
@donaldpainter956 2 года назад
Nope the way I test one is if your suction side gauge is sucking down that the first sign of txv problem if you pull the wire off the reversing valve if the pressure are correct then the txv is going bad and sometimes the suction pressure will pull all the way down into vacuum but head pressure is good
@lesliedaisley7846
@lesliedaisley7846 2 года назад
Can this work on a Commercial Refrigeration Systems, Racks and Ice Machines too?
@workingshlub8861
@workingshlub8861 2 года назад
i could have used this trick....had a unit that i thought had leaky shrader valve and it did so i replaced them ..recharged and all was well for about a week..i go back and im thinking there has to be a leak somewhere so i tear everything apart ...cant find it with the sniffer. ..i call one of the more experienced techs and long story short it was a bad TXV ...
@5822huron
@5822huron 3 года назад
That's why they have Bluetooth gauges!
@moonlightacmaintenance3232
@moonlightacmaintenance3232 3 года назад
You’d be smart to keep a set of analog gauges in your truck. Don’t let technology dumb you down. It’s good to always know alternative ways of troubleshooting things.
@melquesedekcastro7480
@melquesedekcastro7480 Год назад
That's simply great, I only feel bad, that I never thought about that before.
@ilovenythismuchilovenewyor5801
@ilovenythismuchilovenewyor5801 3 года назад
cool intro lol
@alfonsobenitez8574
@alfonsobenitez8574 2 года назад
Can i disconnect the brown cable at the capacitor with the power off, and then turn on the unit after securing the fan brown cable so it wouldn't short out, then turn on the unit? Would that work as well, i only have my right arm and don't want to take any chances. Thank you.
@countryfriedhvac
@countryfriedhvac 3 года назад
Great video. Thanks.
@Dontleavemedimi
@Dontleavemedimi 3 года назад
So Eric would it be safe to say that if you have an irregular amp draw that txv could be in the culprit category along with dirty filter slow running fan in or out and some other restriction.
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 3 года назад
If your TXV was slammed shut, you may have high compressor amp draw, but that would be the least of your problems. The internal pressure relief would probably pop before you got your amp clamp out. Most of the time, any condition that reduces refrigeration capacity (less cooling) will have a slightly lower amp draw including the conditions you mentioned. Difficult to perceive unless you have a "before" measurement to compare to. Remember, compressor amp draw will vary along with cooling load.
@Dontleavemedimi
@Dontleavemedimi 3 года назад
@@hvacservicementor thaNks for the insight..
@floridacooling9669
@floridacooling9669 3 года назад
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing!
@JuanGueta1
@JuanGueta1 3 года назад
Thanks sir,,
@NadeemKhan-xu9pk
@NadeemKhan-xu9pk 2 года назад
Please explain the head pressure about other refrigerant. (I believe head pressure situation r 22 explain ) Thanks
@vanhogan5483
@vanhogan5483 2 года назад
Thanks you so much coming from a new tech.
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor Год назад
You bet!
@neutrodyne
@neutrodyne 3 года назад
Wow. That is a great tip! Thanks!
@lifeproject9182
@lifeproject9182 7 месяцев назад
Why do all this comments seem like the dude payed for them?
@hvacservicementor
@hvacservicementor 6 месяцев назад
How much did you receive for this comment? I think I need a refund. I want to speak to your manager. :)
@lifeproject9182
@lifeproject9182 6 месяцев назад
@@hvacservicementor Thank you so much for sharing the knowledge, I can tell people really appreciate you. I do too, am just sarcastic
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