Tub Talk Ep. 1: Substate Depth/Colonization/When & How To Initiate Fruiting Conditions 

just got pins coming up, my first ones. I'm feeling like a father in the emergency room.

Ive found that more air exchange both in colonizing grain & substrate is helpful as long as its filtered. That exchange allows the mycelium to grow so much faster & tend to grow near the exchange vs the opposite areas if those areas are being suffocated. My inoculation ports on my bags seldom have the most mycelium but rather the area closest to the exchange. I think the mushroom community is full of many stoners who regurgitate & echo each other religiously w/o understanding jack & nor having eyes to see & make sense of truths that contradict the doctrines they swear by as to fit in. That said, Ive come to realize better air exchange = faster colonization however you still want to avoid free air doing as it pleases to avoid contamination. Ive also learned that slightly funky smells during colonization of the substrate are not such a bad thing as some people echo. So much air is allowed to remain in a bulk sized tote that its more likely to carry a slight funk as the mycelium is growing & pissing in a pasteurized substrate that isnt 100% sterile. Catching the slight wiff of it is usually ok & will vanish as the cake becomes even more mycelium filled THANKS to air exchange. Its actually a good idea to open the lid after 7 days & give it a chance to expel that funk & start fresh especially if you noticed the mycelium growing slower after about 4-5 days which is usually when that gas builds up. Its not mandatory but again, it speeds up the process. The biggest thing missing from the mush community is spore consciousness. People teach it but they teach it as a small subtitle in the 90% main theme of their messages & insights when it should really be the FIRST & MAJOR thing people learn(how invisible spores are floating everywhere & are the reason why we do ABC to avoid XYZ). So much of this growing has become a religion rather than an actual UNDERSTANDING of whats happens so that we can consciously "break the rules" safely rather than following them in vain due to complete ignorance of their purpose. Its like watching something at subway ring you up on the cash register using the same gloves theyre about to serve the next person w/... ....makes 0% sense & they are clearly too dumb to understand why theyre wearing gloves. Better they break the rule & make your food w/ clean hands than make your food w/ dirty gloves....your food being clean is the goal, not their hands....but what can you expect from typical stoner culture who migrate to mushroom culture? F-ck-ry, thats what. lol

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This video solved several problems i had in the past. So simple and makes so much sense. Ive had 100% success since implementing these ideas/techniques. Thank you Mycotrophic keep up the good work. 🙏🙏🙏

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Amazing info !! Just getting into the mushroom growing and I’m a fiend for information. Your videos are next level. Thank you for sharing and hopefully I can be sending some pics to ya fairly soon. I’m a beginner with the mushrooms but have been growing all kinds of other foods for years. Thanks again bro !!

Awesome Possum ! My popcorn is covered with the fuzzies and I’m about to fill my tubs with substrate for my first grow. Good info for all us newbies and experienced growers alike. Subbed, liked and ringing that bell. Keep up the good work. Thanks.

Amazing content, man. Thanks so much for putting it together. Lots of useful notes that I took while watching. First try... Here we go!

Just found your channel and it already has been more useful than all the others. thanks.

This literally answered all my questions as a first time tub grower, and i thought your knowledge and enthusiasm id both infectious and entertaining. Thank you. Mush Love🍄

To be good at something it takes looking at all perspectives. Very well thought out process

Of the 100’s of videos I’ve watched, this is by far the best. Thank you

Best content in RU-vid 🙏💟 Clarified the most important part of growing magic mushrooms with monotube

You came out of no where bro and have some of the best content I’ve seen. Finally someone I can relate to on an intellectual level.

Awesome content my friend! Very enjoyable and informative. Keep up the great work.

wow there is so much in depth information in this one video. you answer so many questions with each sentence. thank you so much, friend. you've got a new subscriber. keep the awesome content comin! much mush luv

I really do appreciate the information. It truly does help tremendously. First time grower, and I’m excited to learn.

You explained well, and you changed my thinking, I will be binging your vids soon. Ty

Great educational video brother! This is awesome content man. Keep it up

At last! Was beginning to think some vids were purposely misleading me. NO ONE explains this like you do. I have been too shallow. Thanks.

Also amazing content! Very helpful and to the point!

Just opened up my mind,its on now,Thank you for the knowledge.👊🏼💪🏼✌🏼

Great tub talk!

The best advice i have watched so far, thanks so much.

Thanks for this amazing video man, love and light and stay Godly

Hi Mate, Great information, less is more and patience will reward those who wait.

You are THE best teacher my man, props. Keep it up plz

Thank you for the detailed info on temperatures etc. very good info most skim over

This is content that's worth its weight in gold!

Dude, u literally saved my sanity, THANKYOU!! I started learning and giving it a go in late Feb. and my first tub I did didn’t do well surprisingly. I know, go figure right? J/k but I was able to grow some small mushrooms, maybe around 20 in all which equaled out to like 3 grams wet, so not a lot. Well, after my second go I got nothing, not even 1 mushroom. I didn’t know why they weren’t forming, my mycelium looked healthy with no contamination, so I thought to just give it time. I had that tub for almost 2 months trying to keep it going without it ever seeing a single pin form. I was lost, but then I watched your video. I wasn’t making my substrate cake thick enough or using enough spawn. Before it was maybe 1 inch thick so that’s why I had no mushrooms. Sorry for going on about it but your video helped me understand a lot of how everything has to be in harmony to create the right kind of “atmosphere”? for fruits to grow. Thanks a lot bro, Peace.

First time grower. Thanks for vid. Plain & simple

Great thorough video. I see a lot of people who are "experts", which they all are in their own ways but they have a lot of short videos that don't go into detail for the real beginners.

Very informative video, thanks for sharing the knowledge.

Almost at 5000 subs. Good on ya. Keep it up. Great video.

You are not a master You Are A GURU!!!! Thank You!!!

Bro you and 90 sec. Myco. have the best info. Much love man from Colorado.

Thank you so very much my good sir godspeed live long and prosper!

Really helped me out. Got some info I was looking for. Thanks

Appreciate your work dude!

Video Liked! This was very informative and well done 👍

Thanks for the video. This helps me as I’m a “constant mister” to make adjustments.

Thank so much bro. You clarified what I suspected has been my problem. Invaluable

Edit, I want to add Great video!! my other project is also sensitive to fluctuations in heat and humidity as well as watering etc and I have run some amazing hydroponic setups and gotten wonderful results ( as well many failures) and you nailed it... 'you gotta be a mushroom.' I am not there yet with mushrooms but my plants tell me just what I need to do when I listen. This video helped me realize what went wrong with my go...heat. It got upwards of 80f for a few hours each day this last week during colonization with little very small air exchange in the grain containers. They appear stalled however I think cold==slow/stall, hot==dead with mycelium? Moved it all to a lower level @67-73f

Mate what an awesome instructional video .

Love your content and PROPER guidance. Thanks bro

Maybe a decade ago when I first started to learn about fruiting everyone said you needed 3 key points for a perfect pinset: introduce light, lower temps, and FAE. Till recently, thought that colonization needed to happen in about 10°F higher (~80°F) than fruiting conditions (~70°F)... and in a dark environment and with very limited FAE. Now what I'm seeing is a bunch of perfect, massive flushes, from subs/tubs that colonized at the same room (same lighting/temps) in which they are later fruited. So fruited just by introducing FAE. Do you do all your colonization at same temps as fruiting? Lighting conditions don't matter? Thanks for the videos man! Truly art what you do here.

I’m glad that you mentioned that you should think like a mushroom. Being a person that fishes and hunts avidly I always tell people the best results are gonna come when you think the way of fish or your prey does. You’re truly a great instructor and if you’re not a professor or a teacher by trade, I think you missed your calling.

super duper content!! many thanks, giving for free this info

Beautiful! Thank you for researching 🍄. I am wondering what are the optimal dimensions of a monotube and what are de pros and cons of using a tray, a tray on top of a layer of hydrated perlite, the plastic of a plastic bag or just nothing on the bottom of the monotube. Also, what are your thoughts comparing the growth of the first flush from a mycelium in a monotub that is being vetilated a lot using the lid and also frecuently moistened VS in one that is being less ventilated and moistened but retains more humidity?

Great tips!

I was wondering why I keep getting green mold in my tubs and now I'm realizing I have my temp to high and my humidity to high thank you for breaking these steps down for me I really understand it better now! Thanks for your knowledge!

Better than mwgk growing info.. Keep rockin brotha!

Airflow. It's what many don't talk about. How much? When? Should u open the tub to fan? Should u not? In colonization it's not needed but in fruiting conditions it does.

This video was perfect for me as where I at right now . “Be a mushroom” Exactly man exactly.

Excellent informative video. Exactly what I would do if I would make videos.

I just watched your video. I innoculated spawn with portabello spores. Over 2 months ago. Just last week 12/22 i put my spawn in a monotub with hose manure/staw substrate. It really took off within a week (today) the top of the substrate is 85% covered. According to you this is the time to initiate fruiting? What is the best topping i can use, coco coir or peat moss?

Congrats keep pushing the content

Great detailed info. Awesome

Thank you again!! Much appreciated!

Helped more then any other video I’ve watched

I was thinking of installing a mini mister system in the lids as im doing a 2 x 5 shelves rack.. So will be 20 full size totes. Was wondering if this would be a good way for humidity? Set it on a timer for 30 secs every few hours with a dehumidifier in there too

Downloading all these episodes

Ayo just the video I needed right now to pop up on my feed, cheers legend love your Instagram

What are your recommended humidity levels for the inside of the tubs? 95%?

Yes yes yes! The algorithm knows what I'm thinking, and shows me the video I need to see. Thank you very much.

Amazing guy! Earned a sub. Keep it up.. I hope my first ever shoebox will make it. Ended up with two inches because two of my jars stalled out.

Thank you for the education man. I really appreciate the time you took out to help us noobs

Finally, videos that help, thank you

Thanks for the detailed explanations

Question about the room- what is the average humidity? Do you monitor? Do you introduce fresh air ever? I was growing in a tent and kept humidity around 90%, I think my tubs were unable to breathe!

I see that most monotub setups use a 66qt tub. If I used a tub half that size, should I still keep the substrate at 3 inches deep? Are there any downsides to using a smaller container?

Good stuff. Nice channel for learning, I like Philly golden teacher as well.

Love n Respect to you good sir.

Super informative. Thank you

What do you think about starting fruiting conditions immediately instead of colonization for shoeboxes. Curious if you have done a test of those vs each other? I’ve heard both sides.

Your the best brotha 🙏🏼💯🍻

Nice work 🤟🏽

Great info and tips

All y'all worrying about your plants/Myco... that's what will make your grow better. Embrace the feeling of second guessing yourselves and being unsure, then DO YOUR RESEARCH and watch your mind colonize with all the bits and pieces necessary for success. Drink the knowledge. Btw I'm a Cultivation Mgr/ teacher for med cannabis, so I've seen many go from complete ignorance to running grows in 2 yrs. Persevere and y'all will kill it!

Your videos are so thorough and direct. I really enjoyed watching 😃

I’ve heard too much different info on weather or not to choke out the air during colonization. Let it breath. Choke it out. Thanks for the info bro. Mush luv.

So what should we do for fae if you have an airtight lid? I have packing tape over the holes and after it was fully colonized I was going to switch over to micropore tape. My substrate is beginning to colonize but it looks kind of fuzzy and I also forgot to add a casing layer😭. Thank you in advance for your help

I LOVE THIS CHANNEL

Excellent video 🙏🏽

Hey man just wanted to let you know .... GREAT WORK 👍 and thank you for allowing us all to learn and colonize together to be a great community/first timers/medical patients also a question of course... here it is Can you have too much colonized grainspawn in your substrate to cause issues like they can suck all the water and cause it to not initiate pinning or something

best video on the net. thankyou

I was worried that the condensation from my humidifier was too much. I think I’m good. Thanks. 👍🏽

Amazing video man. Thank you

Yes this is what I'm looking for thanks

You are a master...you make it so simple

Thank you for the knowledge!!

Do you use a casing layer? Just wondering your opinion. I’m currently experimenting with both. See if there’s any difference.

I grow in a tropical climate I have temps at 80-85 degrees, it works fine, I am over cautious with maintaining a clean room, and conditions, from spawned substrate to hyphal knots in 6 days. Don't obsess on exact parameters, let the mycelium teach you

Thanks. Very informative

This was very informative

As a novice I have a quick question that was stimulated by your impressive tek and vid and that is: when just fruiting myc cakes it seems most opinions are that the myc needs to be fully colonized in the jar being used with no grain showing through.anywhere, does that same sentiment hold true when fruiting in your tubs since it is just getting mixed in with coir? how fully developed does the myc have to be if grown in jars and then I would also take it that there is no need for the dunknroll that is so important when just fruiting the cakes? appreciate you brother!

great video mate, i am 5 days into inoculation and can't open box yet what harm will come if it goes past the 6-70% range of colonisation

Cool..keep it up. Subscribed!!

so so helpul!!!