I finally upgrade to 32gb of Ram, so now I have to tune it. I compare my new F4-3600C16D-32GTZN to my old F4-3200C14D-16GFX, then use Ryzen Ram calculator to tune it up. Spoiler alert, the new version I tired made no sense.
Somehow you managed to produce an excellently concise step-by-step video showing how to overclock your RAM. Complete with BIOS settings, testing and the logic needed to produce positive results. Just use pause and follow along. - Great job!
@@DATT I just meant that it's normally hard to make a concise step-by-step guide. Most presenters fall into too much information and editing nightmares
Good stuff! I was having the same issues you were with DRAM CALC 1.7.3 and couldn't get it right. Thanks for showing your timings can't wait to try it!
I know super old video but it was quite entertaining watching your ram oc journey on this one^^ not too long ago i also tuned my 3200c14xmp bdie, but im running quite rare setup with 4x16gb so unfortunately 3466mt/s cl14 15 15 15 + somewhat tight subtimings was the max i managed to run on my 5950x. Im using x570 crosshair 8 hero mobo and with that ram setup the absolute max it could post was 3600mt/s but couldnt manage to stabilize it as well as 3533mt/s. If i had only two sticks it managed to boot 3800mt/s no issues but at 64gb in total it seems its waay too hard on memory controller. I tried absolutely everything, all SOC, VDDP, VDDG, procODT, DRAM voltage, RTT values, CAD values, everything something either mobo, ram sticks or cpu IMC just said nope. Oh well at least the gaming performance is fantastic, i basically get 15-25% better fps than those who use low quality xmp kits like 3600 cl18, so im happy with the result just a bit bummed with 3466
I remember 3466 was the max stable I could get on my 2700x. I think that was with my old FlareX kit. Stock was 3200 flat 14, was damn good RAM. Got it when I got my 1700X and lasted me until I went 32gb. I have avoided 4 stick setups for that reason.
@@DATT Yeah it seems its partially difficult for memory controller with 4x16gb of bdie. What i find interesting that if you look at 3950x official page there is a ram configuration spec sheet, both zen 2 and 3 have same mem controllers so it most likely applies to my 5950x as well, more or less. They state that 3950x officially supports: 2x1R DDR4-3200 2x2R DDR4-3200 4x1R DDR4-2933 4x2R DDR4-2667 So it basically aligns with my own experience as well, that "quad rank" is particularly hard to drive, the way i see it getting even to 3466mt/s is not so bad. My 5950x boots into 3600mt/s with all 64gb but only on second memory training attempt and all of memory stress tests fails relatively quickly like TM5. Maybe there is some magical RTT&VDDP setting but everything i saw get recommend for such ram config didnt bring any notable improvements, oh well at least i got ram for days :D
@@h1tzzYT Heh, reminds of the frusterating with DDR5 training on my 7950X. Takes like 30 seconds to post cause it has to train every time. If I set it to not do that, there is a chance the system will be unstable.
@@DATT Yes this Vid. A, how to do and test vid.The Ryzen calclator usw. Honestly it didnt work out for me and my Trident Ram but i learn a lot. thx :-)
Great vid! The only one Ive seen going into more depth! I managed to get 4 sticks of trident z neo running at 3733mhz cl16-16-16-32, 1.37v. Huge difference from before!
Oh come on now, the one time I print something out ! I actually don't like using the phone. When I'm at home it sits upstairs in the living room. I pretty much treat it like a landline at home. I don't use it for anything serious cause I find the tiny screen and keyboard cumbersome. I do everything on PC, and this info is about the only things I've printed in years.
Great video 🙂learned a lot, and enjoyed wathcing 😊i need to make usb boot mem test as well to get more into overclocking my z neo too, i want the max perfomance as well 🙂kind of dont trust just make numbers and turn windows on 😁this is great advice how to properly do ti 😊👍
Lower Cl dont give you better bandwidth, thats job for frequencies, but lower Cl is better for gaming, obviously combination with higher frequency. Cl is relativines too.
Of course a tighter CL gives you more bandwidth. The CPU has to wait less clocks for the data it requested. Sometimes, a tighter CL won't yield more bandwidth, but that it because it's an unstable overclock, the bandwidth increase is getting lost is error recovery, but it may still test good, and seem to run stable.
Good vid bud, I just rock the old TridentZ Neo 3600 with Hynix in my System and had trouble to only Change one Number :'D 16 19 19 19 39 is not perfect. But never did the Test before because its never boot at changed Values. Do you have any Tips of Improving some Settings. Mainboard is B450 F Gaming :D
@@zDennii I think pretty much any tips I have are covered in this video. IT's pretty much a case of scoring the right software and putting the work in so see what you can get it to do. 37gb is a high average. I think that's pretty decent for 16-19-19-19-39 timings, so your Ram isn't under performing for what it is.
@@DATT That's nice to hear and btw i got some weird things going when i turn the Voltage up to 1.4-1.45 it doesnt going stable but results are stable so far thats better as a unstable kit :)
Looking at Newegg, I see a 64gb kit that is 3200/CL14, but with looser other timings and running over volted. There is a similar 3600 kit also, 16-22-22-42 also high voltage, 1.45. So no, it doesn't look like you can get a large higher performance kit. That would of been my guess, the more RAM you have, the harder it is to sync up to those speeds. 32gb is the sweet spot. Unless you're doing something really hardcore on your PC, you don't need that much RAM anyway. I wouldn't want to run 1.45v ram for a hardcore workstation.
half way through the video, and I notice that the software said that the ram is 16GB though you have 32GB. It's showing as F4-3600C16D-16GTZN instead of F4-3600C16D-32GTZN. Same for me its showing that I have a 16GB capacity!
@@DATT - He said - float InvSqrt(float x) { float xhalf = 0.5f * x; int i = *(int*)&x; i = 0x5f375a86 - (i >> 1); x = *(float*)&i;... Then he said it's crazy but it just might work. Then he put // What the FUCK? // in the comments.
I have questions if you don't mind assisting. I just bought an MSI MEG b550 Unify, 5600x, Trident Z Neo 16gb 3200mhz CL 16-18-18-38. I keep getting a 0d error code. What is going on?
@@DATT I am able to post and start up windows normally with my old ram corsair 2400mhz. I can't even get into uefi with the trident it's just a black screen.
It still won't work with the unify I can't even get into the bios to change it unless I use the old dram. But even then there isn't anything I tested on a different motherboard msi z370 and it posted and went into bios and I could see the Trident.
Ah no, I found in these tests that CL14 had poor gains at 3600, so I'm not sure at 3800. I wasn't really interested in overclocking as much as tuning it to get the most performance at reasonable settings, so I stick to 3600, and I wasn't interested in messing with my Fclk.
Yeah, that would be par for course. I guess I figure I'd pretty much be googling it for you. And in the case of the software Calc that worked, it was an older version I already had on file, and I'm not sure where to find that version. I don't recall it being on the site.
@@DATT Yeah I don't usually ask others to do my googling lol. Just good practice to add value to your RU-vid content. You could do the googling for thousands in one shot.
Did you tune on your old ram at all ? Like set DOCP for the Old Ram. SOmetimes, if you forget to zero or disable the old ram setting before putting in the new stuff it can cause a fail to boot. I would imagine if the ram you have is marketed as ryzen compatible it should work to some capacity.
