I'm working on a film project that will document how college aged women spend their Saturday nights when nobody else is watching. One of the shortcomings of feminism is that it doesn't account for the sensuous and immoral conduct that informs women's privileged attitudes.
It's insane how in US people have to pay to defend themselves from the lawsuit. Where I live if someone gets you in the lawsuit and they lose, they have to pay all of your lawsuit expenses which prevents abusive lawsuits like these.
Yeah, the fact that, in the US, you are expected to prove why they owe you the legal fees and that you have to specifically ask for them to be reimbursed is absurd.
"What the fuck? I didn't say that" - Ludwig Van Beethoven "There's nothing we can do about it, they will never stop making fake quotes" - Sun Tzu, Art of War
@@toastergaming7783 in all seriousness that’s a quote that’s often attributed to Beethoven: “to play the wrong note is insignificant, playing with passion is inexcusable” Idk if he ever actually said that though, either way it’s perfect meme format
apparently just a few days after his lawsuit story broke, Nikko was convicted of tax fraud, and his lawyers for the case(evidently not his lawyer for the defamation suit) submitted his high school and community college grades as evidence that he was too dumb to do his taxes
In 1991, Cheek v. United States, SCOTUS established that misunderstanding the tax code is a valid legal defense. His defense is to dismiss the IRS' claim of willful tax evasion. To be guilty of federal tax crimes, the statutes require specific intent.
@@JewTube001 Defamation has to be public and actually result in financial loss or serious emotional distress. The lawsuit won't go anywhere, but as said the lawyer will get paid either way.
Or they just know about Illinois' new Anti-doxing law: "Creates the Civil Liability for Doxing Act. Provides that an individual engages in the act of doxing when that individual intentionally publishes another person's personally identifiable information without the consent of the person whose information is published and: (1) the information is published with the intent that it be used to harm or harass the person whose information is published and with knowledge or reckless disregard that the person whose information is published would be reasonably likely to suffer death, bodily injury, or stalking; and (2) the publishing of the information: (i) causes the person whose information is published to suffer significant economic injury or mental anguish or to fear serious bodily injury or death of the person or a family or household member to the person; or (ii) causes the person whose information is published to suffer a substantial life disruption. Allows a person who is aggrieved by a violation of the Act to bring a civil action against the individual who committed the offense to recover damages and obtain any other appropriate relief. Provides that an individual who is found liable under the Act shall be jointly and severally liable with each other individual, if any, who is found liable under the Act for damages arising from the same violation of the Act. Allows a court to issue a temporary restraining order, emergency order of protection, or preliminary or permanent injunction to restrain and prevent the disclosure or continued disclosure of a person's personally identifiable information or sensitive personal information. Allows a civil action to be brought in any county in which an element of the offense occurred, or in which a person resides who is the subject of the personally identifiable information or sensitive personal information published in violation of the Act"
yea like advice for teenage males who are beginning dating if you go on a date with a girl and she doesn't feel it and declines another date dude just take the Loss on it don't get mad or rude to her part of why is getting rude like that will give you a very bad reputation like this guy if you respectfully take the L on a date that didn't go anywhere you have a much better chance of future success espicaly if the person who went on a date is asked by another woman so you went on an date with Anon what is he like ? honestly he's a nice respectful guy wasn't for me but you might like him i would say give him a chance
This man committed the most textbook examples of Streisand Effect with that. With this lawsuit, this man brought the eyes of millions on the internet what was shared in a small and contained group that didn't see it outside of that group
Today's Fact: In 2004, a man named Ken Wyatt was struck and killed by a car while walking across a street in St. Petersburg, Florida; the same car had struck and killed his brother in the same spot a few years earlier.
interesting, sad, but interesting. Edit: Sorry if I have offended anyone by simply typing interesting wrong. Also, it is sad. My bad for not making that clear.
@@mollusckscramp4124 and he was apparently posted multiple times! there’s so many new posts everyday it’s impossible to see them all. most of the time there isn’t even a pic attached just first name & last initial and age
@chriscanavanii9064, You say that as if cats are a bad thing. Also, it really says something when so many men end up losing to the company of cats. Just saying, lmao.
Imagine the amount of pain his ego was in for him to decide it’s sensible to sue a bunch of strangers he briefly dated for calling him cringe on the internet.
The article Charlie was reading didn't mention everything. I believe the women also stated he was a cheater. Guy's probably a dickhead, but that is much closer to a defamatory statement.
Nico is also facing a significant tax fraud charge in federal court. He potentially filed this suit so that the tax fraud jury would be unduly influenced and lead to a potential mistrial, thus wiping away his tax fraud conviction. Lowkey, we might be playing into his long-game plan by giving his defamation suit publicity.
Tiny update: he's being sued for two seperate incidents of tax fraud. And not like, "It should have been 48k and you put 47k" fraud, more like "You said you earned well below the poverty line and made 158k in charity donations, giving you a substantial return back" fraud. My guess is he filed these lawsuits to help pay for what he's going to be owing soon.
This case is ludicrous to the core. It's just awfully sad to see someone go such lengths just because they can't handle criticism. Explains why the dating experiences mentioned in the group were less than stellar.
Bro it's not illegal just because you don't think it's right lol. You can say anything you want about your dates as long as you aren't intentionally lying. And it's actually good that these women are publically shaming and ruining his reputation. He's an asshole.
@@JewTube001You seem like the one with a problem, imagine being so shit that 20+ who dated you all hated it. It’s completely within free speech to talk about it with other people. Maybe we should start doing that more
Ladies guess we should just stick to normal bathroom convo from here on out.Avoid a paper trial. Plus I think it's here say repeating what is said by someone else
Bro literally brought all this attention to himself and now every woman in Chicago gotta be avoiding him, has to be the best karma I seen in 2024 so far
Hey Charlie can we go and talk shlt to this guy or are we not aloud to because only you're aloud to make harrassing videos and get paid for doing it hypocrite?
You misspelled allowed. And you're upset that Charlie doesn't want a person to have a hate mob come after them? Grow up and get a hobby kid. Making fun of someone being in the news is different than seeking them out because you have no life.
Honestly, women and men that are in the dating scene SHOULD have groups like this for their communities. You never know who you are meeting and people seem to get more and more insane. Having a community that tracks individuals like this or that are worse should be put on blast. As long as you are not actually defaming or slandering the person. Some people need to hear the hard truths about themselves to make a change.
"As long as you are not actually defaming or slandering the person." I don't think anyone disagrees with you on this. The problem is the girls in this group were lying and defaming the guy. Charlie butchered the story. Lehto's Law covered the story better.
Nah I think it’s pretty ratty. It’s a lose-lose for men because most men just won’t care that much to do things like this, it’s just not how they operate or rather spend their time, and if they did I’m sure it’d hurt so many women’s feelings if they were talked about in one of those groups. I’m sure it’ll be seen as problematic, lots of double standards around this I’d fear. I’m also sure many guys have been wrongly slandered in these groups. I rather just not have groups like this.
Yeah there are upsides to it, but making gossip groups just to talk shit about each other isn’t going to help the situation of people becoming crazier. It will only make it worse. If you ever had a shitty experience as either the man or woman on a date and the other decides to slander you to all other people maybe very much undeserved. You will be at a disadvantage for the next date, even if you didn’t do anything wrong. You are essentially making dating a review based business, leaving no room for mistakes and a lot of room for slander and gossip. And there will always be someone who doesn’t get reached by the gossip club who will get an even more bitter/crazy person in front of him/her. Dating is about seeing of your personalities match. It’s the entire point of dating. One person’s experience might not reflect another one’s. This will only create more animosity and creeps in the long run cause people get rejected based on personality without even meeting someone.
@@Ryan-cb1eiExactly we had a nation wide trend in high school in which boys made lists of the girls they would fuck and wouldn’t (i didn’t make it up either). And it got cracked down on hard by schools and police cause it’s completely derogatory to talk about women or men for that matter in this kind of way, behind their backs. How would women like it if men had a massive private facebook group in which they would call that girl a slut and that one ugly and that one crazy. They would lose their minds as they did back in my high school days and rightfully so.
I've seen one group post about a guy who's on dating sites and is on parole for R. I've also seen posts where a guy is said to be incredibly nice etc. For me personally I find it helpful because I have terrible taste in men.
People deemed "turbo-losers" usually have also collected the infinity stones of unlikeability, absolutely amazing. I love learning new lows that humanity can reach.
Hey Charlie can we go and talk shlt to this guy or are we not aloud to because only you're aloud to make harrassing videos and get paid for doing it hypocrite?
@@redwarrior4226 To be fair, it's not hard to get at least one date with someone (before they realize they don't want to continue dating you) if you're going after people who are openly interested in going on a date. That sounds like that's what happened here.
Could all be lies setup by 1, or 2 people with multiple accounts. Ball goes rolling -> defamation and harrassment. I could see where he's coming from *IF* he wasn't a turbo loser.
Imagine if women talking about men online were held to same standard as men talking about women. Guy goes on dates and they don’t work out: we can publicly cyberbully and dox him. Women commit crimes: nooo women are so valid how can you shame her your an incel booo
Have to laugh everytime he mentiones him because i'm WAITING for the upload "it finally happened" where he smiles and talks about his incoming lawsuit 😂
My city had one of these Facebook groups but didn’t last long as the chats leaked and the truth about the situations came out. When you have a echo chamber and people trying to out victim each other they start making up stories or exaggerating the truth
@@Ravon_Regular it is, very, but work on the t's and k's cause they're smacking my ears up a bit in POUND, but keep it going man. also really good part n episode to use for a music vid with regular show.
I wouldn't be so quick to rule that out. There are a lot of scummy lawyers who'll be happy to send a threatening letter if they believe the victim will buckle and pay up. Thing is, if that doesn't work, they can't just drop the client and have to go trough with the lawsuit.
Funnily enough, the creator of the group, one Paola Sanchez, is also currently in trouble for scamming the members out of a bunch of money. Something like 50k.
Petition to rename the "Streisand effect" to the "D'Ambrosio effect" simply because this case is overwhelmingly more ridiculous and infinitely more hilarious than the original
Oh there's another one that's way worse. I recommend the rabbithole of "Lauren the Mortician & Jeannette Braun Lawsuit" that is still actively going on. HUGE Streisand effect.
Not to long ago I heard a Reddit story about a guy who was posted on the same private Facebook group and decided not to continue dating her! He also felt it was a breach of privacy and thought the only reason to be posted on that group means that you are being accused of being a creep! Funny that there is a lawsuit now!
If ever you're in a situation where literally twenty-seven women are coming out of the woodworks to say that they had a terrible time with you on their dates, that should be a clear sign that you're the one with a few screws loose.
Fr 😭 imagine dropping the ball that hard TWENTY SEVEN TIMES. Not to mention the fact that I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not even close to all of them, considering the chances of all of the women he's dated being in this one Facebook group
That’s one of the most naive statements ever. As if women don’t lie and jump on bandwagons. Their comments don’t even see that bad from what I see though.
@@Ryan-cb1ei I mean, sure, women can lie and jump on bandwagons, but the ones in the private Facebook chat gave no hints that they were like tha. Based on their comments about this Nikko D'Ambrosio fellow, as well as the fact that he's suing them over their opinions of him, it seems pretty clear that he's the one with issue and not them.
The legal system needs to change in order to stop blatantly frivolous and petty lawsuits like this from being possible. They are such a waste of time and money, and this is getting ridiculous. You shouldn't be able to sue someone just because they hurt your fee fees.
who will decide if a lawsuit is frivolous? It would cause more issues having authority determine if a persons freedom to litigate is governed. Slippery slope.
i would agree, but moist here has represented the case wrongly and hevily in a negative way he's not suing the woman who actually dated him he's suing the 27 woman who didn't and claimed otherwise even reposting the lies after being ordered to delete the posts
To be fair, that group in some cities has had people post random guys and made up things about them. It is not highly moderated as they suggest. This case specifically, the guys in the wrong Also the group is meant to protect women from abusers, cheaters, but not to shame men but a lot of posts become just that. There is no proof required by them. Thats why other groups like victims of are we dating the same guy/girl have been made. There are also groups that require proof like The Ex~factor (violent/abusive)
this gives me the vibes of that cliche in sit-coms where the one character who dates tons of people, eventually brings all those people in one room at the same time, and asking why they all hated him
We have a similar fb group in our area in Australia. I was on it and one of my exes started a smear campaign. My dads friend started defending me and it was a bloodbath. I just had to deal with it.
At this point, I’m convinced Charlie just wants someone to sue him because he knows he can make more content than he’d lose in lawsuit. That and he would probably win.
@@davidfox2650 Calling him out as a "Turbo Loser" and "Cringe" both falls under defamation and harassment. That'd be the case that'd be tried in court should he sue Moist for these comments and video. However, it is a public case at this point and it'd be viewed as social commentary along with freedom of speech so he's not really in harms way. But I can definitely see the above being what he'd go after Moist for, kinda makes sense when you think about it even if it doesn't make any sense at all if you're a normal human being.
I AM A PART OF THIS GROUP. I remember this blowing up. He threw a tantrum and got the whole group in trouble. He legit was not even talked about that poorly, compared to people who are on there who push for intimacy immediately, or unsafe situations.
with how fragile his ego is, i’d be scared of this dude. & no wonder all these women didn’t feel comfortable saying these things to his face. he clearly would not have taken it well.
It's gone to the point now where people are really making all these frivolous lawsuits just to try to financially ruin other people. Even though the case is going to be thrown out he's still trying to force these women into needing to hire legal positions.
@@Isaac-eh6uu Not few people out there live paycheck to paycheck. To them, 2-3 thousand dollars could put them in financial struggle for easily up to half a year. But alas, in our beautiful world Nobody can ever not be wealthy amiright 🤠
You should look into the one that’s suing in LA, he’s suing over 200 women and the claims on the court documents are just ridiculous, along the lines of “they all hating because they’re too ugly for a prime specimen like me”.
What's crazy is that Charlie spoke about these groups accidentally a few weeks ago. He probably just doesn't remember. in the "First Time I've Seen This" video.
That's some shitty way of thinking. Hypothetically, if his some ex just want to ruined his reputation to ruined his potential for future relation. You saying He shouldn't defend himself because it attracts more attention? Or blaming him for defending own reputation? That's same point Amber Heard's expert witness made against Johnny.
He's not suing 27 woman so much as he's suing FB/Meta and has to identify the actual posters. "D'Ambrosio's attorneys hope a new Illinois anti-doxing law - which went into effect Jan 1. - could bolster the case which they see as the first of its kind. The attorneys are now fielding hundreds of calls of other men who have seen their personal information attached to similar forums."
I'm part of the group and its life-saving for many women. Some guys are repititive abusers who go unpunished. It helps us to avoid those men. Also, it's not just a group shitting on men. Many men are often praised for being nice.
So it's a group for women who date around a lot to rate men depending on their actions on a date so other women can go to that same man and get the same deal, got it. If you're so scared of men, why even go on a date? it doesn't make sense - unless the whole reason you're going there is to get free food. You have to remember there's generally nothing in it for men when they go on a date, they go eat, pay for the dinner, go home and jack off. Net loss. Meanwhile for women it's a net gain - go eat for free, bore someone to death for a few hours and go home and finish your bottle of wine you just bought, or even better, received as a gift. Which one should really have a rating system for dates? but yes, I can understand outing abusive men who actually abuse women physically. Talking someone into dropping their panties isn't abuse.
But you know you aren't going to avoid those men. Men of culture are too intimidating and predictable to suit your fancy. We can try to arrange a date for you with a gentleman, but you'll likely just end up at jock's apartment playing strip beer pong a few nights later.
@@trashgamer4665Not necessarily. They had a private conversation about him, they didn’t publicly defame him. Also, what they said is true, defamation is technically “A false statement purporting to be fact”, not just saying something mean. He ruined his own reputation when he decided to publicly sue them and bring a ton of attention to the PRIVATE facebook group.
Statement has to be knowingly false and malicious. It's very hard to prove someone knew what they were saying wasn't true with intent of publicly defaming a person. This likely meets none of the requirements being private, probably factual, and debatably not.even harmful statements. They're pretty neutral ratings.
Fun Fact: The Streisand effect is an unintended consequence of attempts to hide, remove, or censor information, where the effort instead backfires by increasing awareness of that information.
He does seem insufferable, but I don’t know, unless I feel like that person is abusive or an actual DANGER to society, I wouldn’t post bad Yelp reviews about a person to social media-that can easily get beyond that Facebook group. It’s just petty and unnecessary. Bad date, didn’t vibe? Move on. Tell your friends maybe in your own personal text thread, but taking it to social media is just a scummy as he is. If he’s such a bad person, take the L and find someone else. Talking sh!t about him online and telling other people not to date him because of your own personal bad experience doesn’t seem cool to me. Again, unless he’s abusive or a danger, or is kind of defaming him. Imagine if these girls were deemed as bad dates, and someone blasted them. I bet you they would be pretty upset.
imagine being one of those women tho too who all either let or considered letting this guy in their undies long term for his pockets alone lol like tf did they expect? 'As long as he isnt bottom barrel trash personality wise im down to sell myself for a while'..
@@TheGhost-kk7jj Homie, people do that shit every day on any platform about anyone or anything, restaurants, management, etc. You gonna get pissed at bad public store reviews too? Charlie makes vids on tons of people and they get shit on because of it. Why are you asking "what if" as if this guy is gonna agree and be like "yeah I'd sue them too."? No. If I was ridiculous enough that even just 5 women that went on a date with me felt the genuine need to go into a private Facebook group to mention me, I'd definitely need to reconsider something. The fact there's text proof and the behavior being listed should be enough to know the dude is someone you wouldn't want your hypothetical daughter going on a date with. Him actually bringing it out into the public like this just made it worse, false or not lol (and again some of the comments had proof and it was said how he's been mentioned in that group multiple times prior). They are also just listing things that tons of guys do anyway, but they just personally didn't enjoy. Obviously it's valid to be mad, but he's literally trying to sue 27 women, get 75k, and he's screaming "defamation". Nobody really knew who he was until he did this, at this point he defamed himself which is what many individuals are saying. He can't be surprised that people see him as an idiot. The group wasn't even public and they made no public statements about him, so I doubt it'll be easy to sue. You gonna sue a group of girls for text gossiping about you in private? Because that's pretty much what this was. Also apparently he's accused of filing two false tax returns by claiming he spent a lot of money and charity while having a salary below the poverty line. So bro's facing tax fraud now LMAO.
@@TheGhost-kk7jj Bruh he's not gonna f you, you can stop d riding him, he's gonna ghost you afterward anyway. You've gotta be slow asf to think that's a chapter, but since that's your only rebuttal I'll accept it. Hope you can up your reading game someday.
@@TheGhost-kk7jj Or maybe I'm a college student that constantly has to type essays, so typing this much on my pc doesn't even take more than a minute or two. Typing is not hard bro, that's your skill issue. You just had a ridiculous take imo so I had to tell you why, no harm no foul. You never once properly replied to the points I made so it still stands and I assume you saw the light lmao.
@@TheGhost-kk7jj So? Like Lxexy said, it wasn't public. He went out of his way to find something that wasn't advertised. If you are going to have hurt feelings cause you are shitty at dates, thats not their problem. It's yours. Plus groups like that exist for a reason, its to keep others informed on a potential threat. No harm no foul.
Yeah, he seems like a a-hole and he's bringing more (negative) attention to himself than any private group would probably do. That aside, those groups are, at best, also cringy and, at worst, capable of indeed ruining someone's reputation. It only takes one or two ill-intentioned people for that. I know, I've been there. During college I went in several dates with a girl, we were intimate, dated for around two months and, while she was physically attractive, when it came down to interests and personality we were very different. I talked with her about that, explained that I didn't think a relationship would work between us because we had so little in common, and that we would eventually grew tired of each other. Apparently she understood, agreed and it seemed we ended it in good terms. Everything was very adult and with no drama involved. A month or so afterwards I started to engage in the dating scene again and pretty much every girl in the places I usually went to avoided talking to me and some even looked at me with a disgusting look. Two months later (so, around three months after the break-up) I started to get involved with a girl, who was very wary to reciprocate and while we started going out on dates we were never physical at any level (not even kisses) at her request. This went on for around a month and, after one date, she unexpectedly invited me to her apartment and things went from 0 to 100, that night. After a while of us dating she once asked me "Do you know why girls say those things about you? You're nothing like that." I was dumbstruck. I asked her what things were said about me, and she explained that it was known by most girls how i had been abusive in my last relationship, how i was rough and how i demeaned my ex-girlfriend during sex to the point of physically hurting her. As you guessed by now, the ex didn't take the break-up in good terms, after all, and started spreading those lies amongst her friends who spread it to other girls. TLDR: 1) He's an idiot. 2) Those groups are cringy and/or dangerous. 3) I've been through a situation where an ex spread lies about me to other girls. 4) While I agree with the majority of what Charlie said, saying those groups are private and innocuous is not true.
