Twin Locked Hilux & Rear Locked Ford Ranger | MOMENTUM VS CRAWL | Hill Climb challenge 

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@@caserasera4776 he's not the only one in this thread I too want a Wrangler and Ford Ranger

Cheers Chris, doesn’t look to steep in the video but the Hilux driver needed a lot of encouraging to attempt it and me to go first 😂. He flew up so quick I had to jump out of his way

I can't imagine this being easy at all. I drive a prado and get nervous when going up/down a steep hill, etc. I'm no off roader though...but would love to try it sometime.

He had a front locker and the ranger didn’t, don’t act like it destroyed it.

Yeah the Hilux

@@Luca-xh2fq that hilux is twin locked actually.

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Moninn Yem same with me and I’m a Hilux fan

Took it ages to get up though

And he gets there first.

That's something I have thought about for a long time, most of us could actually kinda out perform expensive 4x4s, the thing with them is shielding us from weather and also carrying way more, but yeah man we could totally outrace them

Locked two legs hehe

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jbrizz99 thanks for watching and comments. I agree with your comment 100%. Both vehicles are pretty even at the end of the day. The Hilux being older doesn’t have traction control so he uses his lockers a lot more. If you read my other reply’s to the other comments you will see me explain further but in a nutshell the Ranger tried the crawl approach and the Hilux did more of the crash and bash. Hope you enjoyed

from my experience hilux can take more punishment than the ranger. It simply is a tougher vehicle. But i don't have time for either of those, I'm a Patrol fan :)

Louis Nel I have a patrol as well but I don't drive it hard enough to find it's limits, although it is nice to know it's a very tough vehicle. With diff lock there is usually no need to thrash it, second low at idle will get it almost anywhere.

I did not mean punishment like high revving and so on, i mean work. Construction work and all that stuff where the bin is always loaded driving on tough terrains all that stuff. My dad has the old 1990ish hilux and that thing is still working today, where you can see these new rangers allready some people broke theirs and so on. Dad does earth moving mech like CAT, BELL and so on, so that hilux has seen it all, from open cast coal mines to mountains and game farms so on. No problems yet. Hilux = beast :) Ofc you get the people that say if you look after your car then it will last longer, yes i get that point but have you guys seen top gear where they try to break the hilux? no ranger will survive that, not even the old ones.

jbrizz99 hilux isn’t the same its actually designed better

Exactly. The Ranger was crawling up while the Hilux cruised up. Plus he got to see what line to take and how to do it by watching the Ranger go first.

It's because the Hilux has a twin lock not the momentum

The diff locks in both axles makes it easier, no jumps, no shocks underneath, less speed.

I’ve gotten up a greasy Palm Ck in Cape York with no lockers, didn’t need to use the winch, just pure momentum, then parked at the top for half an hour watching others get stuck, needing winching & towing out one after the other. Only one got up without help and it was an old red 90’s Hilux. A guy from my work who was with me owned a Jeep and he broke his uni joint on it while lightly feathering the accelerator with some wheel slip. That Jeep had so many mechanical issues while on the Tele track. Word got around about the Jeep and I had people we met along the way tell me stories about it even though I first hand saw all the problems it had. Lesson = Don’t ever buy a heap of Jeep.

Let us know when you plan on coming down. Would love to hit the tracks

Tom Rodgers in the Mk2 Ranger front traction control remains enabled with rear diff lock on. It’s hard to tell from this video though. Reason is because the traction control system in the ranger allows a lot of wheel spin before kicking in and applying some braking to the spinning wheel sending some torque to the other wheel. Works well enough in most terrain but struggles when rock crawling etc. Thanks for watching

Lockers make all the difference with IFS vehicles. The Hilux was open diffs factory and struggled until the owner installed the dual lockers. It’s the same hilux in my very first video that needed to winch. Now it’s pretty capable and I have to keep up with him 😂

@@michaeltoomer4090 I have a Ranger with a similar set up to yours. I run 600kg OME suspension and find I don't get much flex although I haven't used it yet with anything like that load yet, what set up have you got? I'm against adding a front locker as I think its one of those mods that is expensive to add and creates reliability problems which are definitely expensive. I've heard enough driveshafts go "ping" and if they go in the wrong geographical location and you've no support you can be properly buggered.

Gordon Bowen I have nothing out of the ordinary. Just Ironman foam cell pro 2" lift with 0-300kg springs and extended shackles which have been added since this video. The extended shackles help with flex. I imagine your heavy duty springs would flex less than if they were a softer setup. Since this video iv also changed my wheels/tyres and aftermarket UCAs and a diff drop for reliability.

@@caramelypoops if you want a front locker for a Ranger and don't wanna break the bank you could try an auto locker. You can install them yourself with a bit of mechanical know how. Works like a charm much like a limited slip diff on steroids getting a front for my Ranger

Zaygham Nawaz steering is very difficult. Normally you activate them after you steer and deactivate if you need to steer

All fair calls. The video isn’t really a comparison even though I have titled the video as such. Was just 2 blokes having a crack at a obstacle at the time . The main reason the hilux flew up was because he deployed the crash and bash method while myself being the first tried the “crawl up and make sure my front bar doesn’t hit” method. In regards to the tyre pressure I normally run them at 20-22 psi but I have since changed my wheels/tyres which I can run a lot lower without fear of popping the bead.

Michael Toomer All good, looked like it was a good day, thanks for sharing it with youtube, awesome looking 4wd by the way.👍

The Lux is also a few hundred kilos lighter right?

And hilux didnt pass the same spot if u notice

I'd have the ranger. Too easy is boring. You want a ute that you know will make it so long as you do a bit of work on your end too. Otherwise.. why even go out?

vevohoeyo while the outcome appeared that way the reason was a little different. Being first and not wanting to bash my front bar into the rock I decided to approach it slowly to ensure my front bar clears the first rock step and crawl up but struggled for traction. The hilux driver while appearing to be in control was actually a nervous wreck 😂 and needed a lot of encouragement to give it a go. Knowing Ben, (Hilux driver) he hits everything at speed, he just wanted to get up and over it. An imbetween pace would have been a lot better for both vehicles.

Michael Toomer get the auto ranger m8 they are awesome for throttle control in the low range

vevohoeyo it is a Auto Mate. What you are seeing here is the Ford Rangers front Traction control in action. Hard to tell because it doesn’t work to well on a steep include and there is a lot of wheel spin before it kicks in.

Troy thanks for watching and leaving feedback. Toyota's are great trucks. In saying that I also love my Ford. 👍

Dave D Falcon and commodore utes are real utes, we just happened to call everything else utes as well.

Thanks Sarah 😄.

Allan Wagner thanks, front lockers are still on my future upgrade list! Thanks for watching !

Casey M your talking about traction control and this model Ranger does use traction control at the front even while rear diff lock is engaged. Your actually watching it in action but as noted and mentioned in other 4x4 reviews the Ranger allows a lot of wheel spin before kicking in and is very reactionary. Also when it does kick in only some braking is applied to the spinning wheel therefore transmitting only some torque to the other wheel. It works reasonably well enough on most surfaces but really struggles on steep climbs such as this. Thanks for watching and leaving feedback

Michael Toomer ah ok I did not realize it had front traction control . Does not look like it works to well in this vid. Nice looking truck though 😬

Casey M yeah this video doesn’t show it to well but believe me it works. Traction control is enough for 99% of my driving and only use the rear locker when I need to. Cheers

It’s The rocky section at the top of Flats Track. The main reason the Hilux breezed up because he hit it at speed. Something which I wasn’t prepared to do being first and just scraping my front bar over the first Rock step. In regards to the tyres I normally run them at 20-22psi but I have constant issues with popping the bead. Iv since changed to a different wheel/tyre combo which I can run much lower. Thanks for watching and leaving feedback

Steven May that’s 100% correct. More momentum would have made it a lot easier. Being first and not wanting to damage the front end it was slow and steady for me. However the hilux driver was a lot more nervous and wanted to get up without hassle. We were not trying to compete or compare the 2 vehicles in any way at the time even though I have named the video Ranger vs Hilux.

Billy. lg that’s a biased opinion and not based on fact and certainly not by this video with so many variables. Now if you were to say Hilux is more reliable then I won’t disagree but both are equally capable out of the factory

Yes, thats the point. Sometimes like this a run up is required and this is where Toyota's excel. You can bash them up, they are very simple.. Colorados, Rangers, pathfinders etc time and again will fail and break. Proven over and again. Lets redo this vid in say 15 years time, Hilux will still be going :)

Just pop it and run...... also seriousness once you start rolling on a steep hill dont touch the clutch it's all about drive and forward momentum, you don't have to pin it just walk up and use the right foot to modulate speed vs traction. Once you loose both then and only then use clutch but the right gear selection is pivotal at the start you don't want to be hunting gears in a manual going up hill. To quick to many rpm you break shit to slow you stall out. Find ballance. Biggest mistake made is wrong gear selection In first place. Best way to figure out your car is find a steep hill not over the top start out L1 and try it in diffrent gears its not how fast you get to the top but keeping your vehicle in the sweet spot on boost and torque mine is around that 1800 to 2000 rpm each vehicle is different though but biggest thing is know your cars capabilities first.

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You are a moron. The Ranger crawled up the hill while the Hilux took off like the fuzz was chasing him 🙄

mack kaval it's a Rhino evolution bar by Rhino4x4. Cost just shy under 5k which included colour coded bar, painted bash plate, 14000 Lb winch and installation. Light bar installed by me after

Michael Toomer your truck looks mean

Wuttichai Sittichaisunton thanks, glad you enjoyed!

LoneW0lf11 so true. Iv actually driven this section since with a bit more momentum and less air in the tyres and walked up it easily.

Francisco Guizar Dane since this video I have installed aftermarket UCAs however it has not increased my overall suspension travel due to the strut length not opening enough to take advantage of the extra droop available from the UCAs. Il probably change them in the future but until then I’m happy with arms as there a lot stronger than factory and no one wants an upper ball joint failure.

Francisco Guizar Dane , my current list of mods since this video are: 2" Ironman foam cell pro Rear extended shackles (post video) Rhino front bar/winch/bash plate PSR underbody protection Ironman rear bar Blackhawk UCAs (post video) PSR diff drop (post video) Uneek4x4 rock sliders TJM snorkel 16x8 moto metal wheels (post video) 305/70r16 Toyo MTs (post video) ARB frontier long range tank LED headlight upgrade Plenty of minor mods not worth listing