Time stamps 0:34 - Foreword (Feat Rex Orange County) 3:14 - Where This Flower Blooms (Feat Frank Ocean) 4:33 - Sometimes... 4:43 - See You Again (Feat Kali Uchis) 7:39 - Who Dat Boy (Feat A$AP Rocky) 10:33 - Pothole (Feat Jaden Smith) 13:48 - Garden Shed (Feat Estelle) 15:40 - Boredom (Feat Anna of the North & Rex Orange County) 16:25 - I Ain't Got Time! 18:15 - 911 / Mr.Lonely (Feat Frank Ocean & Steve Lacy) 22:00 - Droppin' Seeds (Feat Lil Wayne) 23:45 - November 26:00 - Glitter 26:56 - Enjoy Right Now, Today
In context with the album, "Glitter" is the song Tyler made for the guy he fell in love with & left on his voicemail at the end of "November". That's why "November" ends with him going to voicemail and "Glitter" ends with the person's voicemail being full. Tyler never got the chance to really tell that person how he felt & the album kinda plays out like a movie with a cliffhanger, giving no solution to Tyler's dilemma, with the last track acting as credits so you can do whatever & "Enjoy Right Now, Today."
In his Tiny Desk Concert Tyler straight up said to the audience that he doesn't know how to sing but he sings anyway because he likes how it makes him feel. You should check out that Tiny Desk performance btw.
@@itsyahboy2000 fr though. I only liked are we still friends, and earfquake onnthe first few listens, but now the whole album is a masterpiece in my book. EVERY song is super super replayable. Just listened to all of flower boy last night because I never really liked the whole thing as a project and tried to get into it, but last night it just clicked and HIT.
Isaiah Rashad ( the sun tirade, cilvia demo, pieces of a kid ) cilvia demo is his best work for me in terms of rapping and in general (classic album in my opinion) , the sun tirade is vibes all day, pieces of a kid is his first project and relatable af.. Isaiah Rashad just speaks to you bruh.. my most anticipated artist.. hopefully he dropping soon
Forreal, more people need to hear zay. I know most prefer Cilvia but The Suns Tirade rly spoke to me after getting outta rehab. Theres layers to that record.
My favorite Tyler album 🔥 Some suggestions: Travis Scott - Days Before Rodeo Frank Ocean - Blond Freddie Gibbs - Pinata Kanye West - Yeezus Kendrick Lamar - Damn
Thank you jonnnnnnn literally my fav albums are flower boy, rodeo, blonde, to pimp a butterfly. and I'm pretty sure you have had enough spam about doing blonde and the rest of the Kendrick album
0:34 - Foreword (Feat Rex Orange County) 3:14 - Where This Flower Blooms (Feat Frank Ocean) 4:33 - Sometimes... 4:43 - See You Again (Feat Kali Uchis) 7:39 - Who Dat Boy (Feat A$AP Rocky) 10:33 - Pothole (Feat Jaden Smith) 13:48 - Garden Shed (Feat Estelle) 15:40 - Boredom (Feat Anna of the North & Rex Orange County) 16:25 - I Ain't Got Time! 18:15 - 911 / Mr.Lonely (Feat Frank Ocean & Steve Lacy) 22:00 - Droppin' Seeds (Feat Lil Wayne) 23:45 - November 26:00 - Glitter 26:56 - Enjoy Right Now, Today
I think you nailed exactly what Boredom is supposed to be when you said it was a sleepy song. That track is my favorite on the Album though. Hopefully it grows on you like it did on me.
I was never a fanboy for Tyler, I liked some of his work but I think Flower Boy is genius. I don’t think it’s perfect but the good stuff is incredible.
PLEASEEE LISTEN TO PINATA - FREDDIE GIBBS. IT'S EASILY ONE OF THE GREATEST HIP HOP ALBUMS THIS DECADE. SUPER GRITTY, SUPER SOULFUL. PRODUCED ENTIRELY BY THE LEGENDARY MADLIB. LOVE WITNESSING YOUR GUYS' JOURNEY THROUGH HIP HOP, MUCH LOVE KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
Logan Wood forest hills drive is pretty overrated. There is a reason why critics usually give it mixed reviews. It’s a good album but top of the decade is a bold ass statement.
Jon, loved your reaction on the album. Glad you liked it! Its one of my favorite albums from last year. The last few tracks you mentioned, Glitter and Enjoy Right Now, work like this: on the end of November, Tyler is talking to his lover. well, not really his lover, actually the person he mentions on See You Again. Anyway, he says he wrote a song as a declaration of his love for that person but he's too shy to sing it face to face (not just in the context of the album. Tyler's been wanting to do more melodic stuff with his voice since forever, but he was very concious about it and how people are going to take it), so he leaves a voicemail > "Hello, no one is available to take your call" > That takes us to Glitter. Glitter is the culmination of the whole album. its the key moment after all the pondering and self discovery Tyler goes through on the album (many talked about him 'coming out' as gay or bi, i dont think that really matters in the narrative, but Garden Shed is the center of that theory) after all that build up, Tyler is finally going to tell this person how he feels. He sings his feels and insecurities into the track hoping for the best, but... "We didn't get your message, either because you were not speaking or because of a bad connection" *Fuck- (now if you play Foreward right after this what do you get?) -ing bitch FUCK!*. All for not! Well, to me, the album doesnt have a real ending. thats the twist: we dont know how it ends. Tyler may never truly declare his love for that person, he might be on an endless journey of comtemplation and hesitation or attempt and fail. sort of like an open ending for an album. i think its pretty cool. The thing with Enjoy Right Now is that Tyler has said it himself too: thats the credits. the whole album is like a movie (pretty much every tyler album has been a movie) and if you want, the album can end there. where what happened after glitter doesnt really matter and you just enjoy day after day moment after moment. holy shit i got carried away. i hope anyone reads this. sorry for any typos or weird grammar, hope you get to enjoy the ending of the album more the next time you listen to it, Jon
You are dead on in saying this album sounds like old Hollywood. In the interview that a Tyler did on his RU-vid channel titled “FLOWERBOY: A CONVERSATION” he said that a lot of the tracks were supposed to sound like an old movie soundtrack. See You Again sounds like something that would play as you walk up the steps to Cinderella’s castle, Who Dat Boy sounds like a horror movie, etc.
I’ve been listening to this album over the past couple days and wow is it impressive. Such a unique feel for the album. It isn’t fully laced with your regular rap tracks. It is more mood music. Obviously it does have bangers and traditional rap songs but they fit into rest of the album deceptively. It’s difficult to describe. But it sounds great. A real enjoyable experience. It’s a journey. Tyler is so versatile. Highly recommended.
I’m certain this album will grow on you. Tyler is truly a creative genius producing every single song on this and doing an incredible job imo. When u get used to it you’ll appreciate a lot more
A$AP Rocky - AT.LONG.LAST.A$AP/LiveLoveA$AP Frank Ocean - Blonde Kendrick - good kid m.A.A.d City and To Pimp A Butterfly Notorious B.I.G - Ready To Die Kanye - Yeezus and MBDTF J.Cole - 2014 FHD Kid Cudi - both of Man on The Moon and KIDS SEE GHOSTS Joey Bada$$ - 1999 and A.A.B.A
Exit I actually think Watching Movies might be a better introduction album to Mac for Jon. Faces is very abstract and Swimming is more singing Mac... both fantastic albums, but Watching Movies I think is the perfect album to start with for a non Mac fan.
I think you'll get Boredom and Glitter more as you listen and acquaint yourself with the lyrics. The album is really sad. He speaks on loneliness and failed love, the latter being a particular focal point of the album. You'll notice in the second verse of November he's telling this person he's in love with that he wrote a song about them and that he's gonna play it for them over the phone or leave it on the answering machine if they don't pick up. That's what Glitter is, it's the song he's playing for them. That song breaks my fucking heart because it really encapsulates the high of being in love with someone followed by the depression of heartbreak. The contrast in the sample of him saying "how you feel?" in the first chorus versus when the sample re-appears after the song has slowed down. That breaks me. "please don't save me"
So glad you enjoyed this. It was my AOTY 2017 and I got to watch him perform it live. Best show I've ever been to. Unrelated, but I'd really appreciate if you do the TPAB album reaction with Simon.
Full reaction to Vince Staples - FM! please. Album of the year! Also, it'd be awesome if y'all could react to "Pick up the phone" by travis scott, young thug and quavo on Rock Reacts :)
I know this is a bit old but I think the context of Glitter is very important to loving it. November ends with Tyler speaking to another person over the phone, who hasn't answered, either because they aren't there or because they don't want to hear from him (the ending of Glitter seems to indicate the latter) saying that he wrote a song about them, and wants them to hear their opinion on it, and so November ends with the voicemail telling him to leave a message. Glitter then begins, implying that he's playing it over the phone to leave it on their voicemail; a wholesome song confessing his feelings to the person he's calling, saying that they "Light my fireworks, I feel like glitter; and everytime you come around I, feel like glitter", telling them in no uncertain terms that he loves this person deeply and wants to start a relationship with them (or, more likely, they already had been romantically involved and had since separated, indicated by November's potentially double-meaning lyric of "take me back") Then Glitter ends with the voicemail coldly informing him that it did not save the message either because he "wasn't speaking or because of a bad connection". Bad connection, yet again, a possible double meaning, telling Tyler that him and the person he wrote the song about are really not compatible and he should give up. I wrote way too much here honestly but Flower Boy is one of my all time favorite albums, and November/Glitter especially is probably my favorite back to back tracks in all of music, with this narrative of lost love only hinted at in the outros of each song.
man i'm really sad you didn't fuck with garden shed that much, probably my favorite song on the album, being that it's basically Tyler's coming out song. and the instrumental, the chord progressions, both of their vocals, Tyler almost sounds like a different person on this track, love it. the "kissing white boys since 2004" line wasn't the thing people were surprised about with this album, he's said a bunch of shit like that in the past.
Rodeo and then Flowerboy? You’re getting spoiled JDThaProphet. 2 of the best hip hop albums of the decade. If you wanna continue down the path of greatness, check out Man on the Moon by Kid Cudi. Absolutely amazing album and is consistently named by other artists and rappers as an all time favorite.
I love how you go through this album and break it down with your experiences. It gives me new perspectives to think about even though I listened to this album about 1000000 times
For the Jaden Smith track do Icon for a more aggressive and flashy song or do Fallen for a more emotional and wavy song with strange yet strong production
i remember when this album came out in the summer, i just got my first car & drivers license extremely close to the album release day, the first day i could i drove (confidently BY MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME) THE WHOLE DAY through multiple towns with perfect weather (while playing this album), 1 of many albums to drive to. Driving in random unknown directions (FAR) AWAY then Google maps ur way back home is the best. it was a memorable little special moment :) Also this album makes me think of this song its fire = roy ayers, everybody loves the sunshine, 1976
Yo Jon, react to Smuckers by Tyler on the Rock Reacts channel. It’s featuring Lil Wayne and Kanye. Such a good song. Two other songs would be: -Family Feud by Drake and Lil Wayne - Excuse me by A$AP Rocky
On what you were talking about at ~ 23:20 I really feel what you’re saying and there was a similar sort of message in Mick Jenkins’ new album. This is the quote you reminded me of: You basing everything you know about me from moments/I'm more a compilation of composition/ it's complicated
No idea if you're still checking the comments but one BIG thing you missed (understandable for a first listen) is the importance of Garden Shed. That's the "coming out" track. That's the "All my day ones turn to three, fours 'cause of track seven" reference on November - his worry that his biggest fans no longer vibing with him because of the revelation on that track. Great reaction nonetheless!
Love these full album reviews man. Maybe do at long last asap next by ASAP Rocky... it’s a classic. And for something different I really like the new Kurt Vile record. Thank you for doing these!
I know you’re probably sick of Brockhampton requests but please do their new album Iridescence. It was recorded in a few weeks at Abbey Road. Really original, unique hip hop.
