Buy an F35A if you don't mind the maintenance cost, buying a carrier capable fighter is pointless unless you also buy a carrier and those thing use a crazy amount of fuel, speaking from experience
Despite f35 is good but countries won't be buying and depending on it Since USA has bad reputation of blackmailing countries during war for spare parts
It can be operated on aircraft carriers without catobar too, it's just that it cannot be fully loaded on aircraft carrier without catobar. But it's the same with the f-18 or the f35 and that's the only others alternatives to the Rafale M nowadays.
@@Across_Media Brilliant. Thank you. The channel covers some really interesting topics and it'd be so much better if you could fix this issue and say more about the topic in the time you have in the shorts. Lovely to get a response.
The primary drawback of typhoons is that their parts are manufactured in different countries, necessitating good relationships with all of these countries to obtain the necessary parts.
And another factor is supply chain For rafale , you have to be dependent on France alone for spare parts But for typhoon you have to be dependent on 3 countries for supply chain
How is this a disadvantage? All aircraft sales are endorsed by the partner nations and this applies to spare parts. A larger competitive supply chain would most likely reduce costs and lead times
@@mattgummerson8370 wrong First of all adding other countries in supply chain doesn't affects the cost Second, if any one of the three countries went at war , your supply chain will be disturbed And third is geopolitics For example India has good military relations with France and UK but not with Italy and Spain So rafale becomes an obvious choice because there is less chance of getting any issues with France as compared to Germany, UK , Italy and Spain
@@sunitarajput2626 we’re talking about spare parts here, not aircraft. Having a competitive supply chain definitely reduces cost, having a monopoly on a spare part discourages a company from reducing their price. Also, a lot of the Eurofighter parts are interchangeable with NATO aircraft so there’s the economies of scale savings. Some of the parts are interchangeable with Rafale but key components were purposely selected that do not include US content
You should try Jas-39 Grippen against Typhoon. Quoting a Typhoon pilot: "It can get scarely close when it's ECM are on". First day in red flag 2006 they took down a Typhoon.
@@Tintin-qq3noyou clearly have not informed yourself to truly believe that the EFT is inferior in every ways except the range. The typhoon is a LOT faster at mach 2 and has also a higher thrust to weight ratio simply stronger engines. The rafale is an overall well ballanced multirole fighter made by france to match their requirements, including naval use. The eurofighter was created by germany and spain and france at the beginning to create an overall fighter that was more capable for the role of air superiority. Its why the EFT has very powerful engines, high t/w ratio and good range
Rafael is just better. Massive respect to the French for protecting their industry and picking the best. Don't change France. You're proud and many of us respect you for protecting your sovereignty
@@CapitaineNemo1 just because it's a Delta Wing it instantly Makes it based on the Mirage? what about other Delta Wings? the F-102 or F-106? the Gripen? that's not based on the Mirage
Are there still people who are asking the question in 2023? Seriously ? 🤣 I just remember that the Typhoon project was born following divisions with the French because they wanted an omnirole capable of landing on an aircraft carrier and above all of waging war and not a hunter just for surveillance of the sky. They nevertheless managed to release the Rafale 3 years ahead of the Typhoon when they had started its construction after them 😂 The Typhoon is a commercial failure for export, it had very few customers outside the countries that manufactured it. It is also a technological failure since their big mistake is to have made a pure air-to-air fighter and today they are trying somehow to give it air-to-ground capabilities to repair this error. Except that the result is mediocre, he always needs to be accompanied by another plane to designate the targets. It is more than 10 years behind the technology of the active antenna radar, it is a considerable delay. It is unable to land on any aircraft carrier. However the Typhoon has anti-radar missiles, good maneuverability and powerful engines, it is really good aerodynamically as a fighter, I wouldn't say otherwise. The Rafale is currently the best-selling fighter plane in the world. 😎 It has always had a better rating than the Typhoon in international competitions. Every time 😂 Brazil, India, Switzerland, South Korea... It has a very advanced AESA active antenna technology radar. Infrared missiles with a range unique in the world. It can carry out all missions: surveillance, air-to-air, air-to-ground, air-to-sea, nuclear, suppression of enemy defences, reconnaissance, monitoring of terrain at very low altitude (unique in the world). Unlike the Typhoon which is just designated air air. It can take off from any type of aircraft carrier, ski jump or catapult. It has greater payload capacity in everything: more armament, more fuel, more hardpoints (14) Today the European consortium bitterly regrets not having listened to the only aviation expert on the European continent: France. The Rafale continues to improve with its F4 version and soon F5, it is expected to fly again until 2060/2070 while we are already approaching the withdrawal of the Typhoon for 2035. You realize the enormous difference between these two devices? It's huge. 😅
tf are you saying, the Typhoon has a lot more and Better CAS Weapons France was just Part of the Project so they could Steal British and German Designs
No comparison possible between the 2 planes. The Rafale completely outclasses the Typhoon, not to mention that it is a naval aircraft and carries out nuclear strikes
In which department is it outclassed by Rafale? Typhoon can realistically carry more multi role armament, can use anti radiation missiles and has a bigger selection of targeting pods. New Eurofighters also have an ultrawide cockpit display while even Newest Rafales still use old 3 smaller monitor setup from early Gripens and F16E Block 60. Rafale is capable of nuclear strike? I wonder how many times this ability will be useful. Only department in which Dassault may be better is in guns dogfight, but even then, those are really rare in the current world.(Typhoon also uses IRIS T which is superior to Rafale's MICA IR). It's actually Rafale that gets outclassed by a Typhoon.
Planes like this are so complex that I refer to fighter competition evaluations made public. Two leaked evaluations were from the Netherlands and Switzerland. The Netherlands evaluation was pretty revealing. Sorry, RU-vid doesn't allow links that aren't RU-vid.
Rafale is more proportionate looking aircraft then EF . EF looks like all the part joint together just to make a product . Look at the air intake. When the are so close to each other what is the use of having two air intake and position of canards ? Just like concords aircrafts i know its must be a technological requirement but how rafale manage to get things proportionate ???
because their specifications are quite similar, but you should not rely on the exterior, the rafale is more versatile than the eurofigter which is more of a hunter, and the rafale can be used on an aircraft carrier. it is precisely these differences in objectives that led to the separation.
the first design for the eurofighter was the Rafale's design. so yeah the eurofighter looks like the Rafale because they reused some ideas. the basis was the Mirage 4000
You see these claims that Spectra is better than Promethean, but is there any evidence for that? What, exactly, makes it "more advanced"? "Rafale has a more advanced targeting system"? What? Typhoon can use Litening 5. Do we really think Damocles XF is going to be better? Damocles wasn't regarded as competitive with Litening 3, so Thales will have done well to close the gap, let alone overtake Rafael. Or perhaps they're referring to the OSF, which does admittedly include a laser rangefinder.
What he doesn't say is the fench walked out of the euro fighter project putting the development back five years. They left because they wanted all the juicy bits, the other members said no. So the french went in a huff and left with the research upto that point.
This is total romance. France just wanted an omnirole plane marine convertible not peculiarly a dogfighter. That explains the differences of perfs (speed and altitude) Anyway apart of that it's true that "mirage 4000" existed for good way before Eurofighter project that came out from scratch. The most significant fact is that UK should have made the same choice and when you see the erratic life of UK aeronaval today you understand. France should have two carriers but UK have them for nothing. Well I mean one old harrier and two overrated F35.. At list Rafale is US Carrier compatible.
The Rafale. And i don t say cause i am french. The Rafale is far away better for many reasons.... and pilots know it. Typhoon a very good plane . But the Rafale is just the best aircraft in the world. And it is true.
The e.u would be better off merging all the military aircraft manufacturers into a mega cooperation like lockheed. No need to have so many small companies with small budgets......merging already proved successful with Airbus
Naive view. Ok for military cooperation but not for merger. Countries than can remain sovereign should do so. You never know wh’s going to pull another brexit on you, go rogue or have racist governements that you would need to support just because they build your fighter’s landing gear.
You mean one giant corporation that can lock you in a project, blow timelines and budgets and milk you to the tale of $1.5 trillion? Err… no, thank you!
Sharing proprietary tech is not going to happen. These are private companies. They already cooperate, however on a project to project basis. For example BAE systems supports the development of a lot of modern fighters.
Because as jet era combat evolves speed is becoming less of a factor. A slower stealthy fighter with a decent payload and fuel efficient engines is more of an air to air threat. Because it can control an airspace for a longer period of time and choose when and where to engage.
Everybody thinks speed is everything and it really doesn’t mean anything anymore. If you notice, the top speed of the best fighter/ attack jets is becoming lower and lower and it’s for multiple reasons. F35, F22, Super hornet and the block 111 upgrade. Those are just 3 to name a couple. Thrust to weight is a hole not her story and those 3 along with the F16 and F15 are great jets for that. Traveling at mach 2 and higher are really bad for jets and their coatings, brings on more maintenance and extra unleaded cost.
I'm waiting for the AF to build a whale. Imagine a drone the size of a B-2 that flies with an AWACS. It's entire job is to carry massive amounts of ordinance. While on station the smaller fighters use the whale to launch ordinance which they then take control of and guide into the target. Considering the B-2's payload that's a massive leg up in the field of firepower to be brought to bear from a handful of stealth fighters.
Here the question has arrises:- The rafale has advanced in electronic avionics warfare but capacity of engines Power is 1.8 mach only . At least if it would be 2.4 mach speed it will be considered most best . But you didn't say anything about Typhoon mach power & electronics aviation power, why ? If you compares you should mentioned it . How much is speed ? What facilities are radar and electronics aviation power . . Range & kmph speed & ilfting capacity & climb up of high etc etc you should clarified it . Otherwise there is no meaning of comparison . Thank you.
Unfortunately you can only get so much info in the time for it to be a short. A quick run down on which aircraft may possess a slight advantage in certain situations.
Top speed does not matter anymore. It is not a drag race. Crazy top speed is awful for a jet and it’s skin because of intense heat and makes you a juicy target. Mach 1.8 to mach 2.0 is really as high as you wanna be anymore. Also, people have to maintenance these things witch costs money, and range is also better when you are not drinking so much fuel because you are flying at mach 2.5 and higher. This is not 1980 anymore, stealth and range are top of the line. Yea, the F16 is great for what it is but it can only be that for about 2 hours,if you conserve.
Again, you have zero clue what you are talking about. That French jet isn’t bad because it only can do mach 1.8, that is not slow. The F35 is only mach 1.6 and it is the most dangerous platform next to the F22’ witch is around mach 2.0. You have to fuel and maintain these jets, do you realize that? Crazy high speed only makes it crazy high costs, and for nothing…. This is not 1980 anymore, technically has moved on for a long time now.
@@airprok8328 well, it seems you have zero clue. It is not the main factor but still It is still part of air superiority to be able to intercept or not to get intercepted after mission. Most of modern fighters can quickly intercept Rafale which is the slowest one by far! F35 is still much faster while it has stealth shape, cant even compare those two.
@@misiex221 no, I have every clue. No need to be but hurt. It’s about thrust to weight, not top speed. Go back to DCS, I’m sure that’s where you came from because all you simple minded do, you think it’s real life and death. Both fighters in question are both very capable platforms but it has nothing to do with top speed and everything to do with capabilities and bring back and efficiency. Tell me your rank, until you do, you can keep your thoughts to yourself. Don’t get caught in arguments with people who actually know how any military actually thinks. The F22 is about to be retired and that is even being retired by a slower top speed platform, but with the best sensor and radar capabilities. If you can’t be seen but can see everything, it doesn’t matter how fast you go and the faster you are, the easier you are to see.
@@airprok8328 I see you may be a little bit hot minded. 1. You are talking about stealth, and compare Rafale to Raptor. If jet has no stealth then it is better to be fast, neither concerns Rafale, it is not stealth and it is slow, Raptor has both stealth and speed. Even his multirole 6th gen stealth replacement will be way faster than Rafale. 2. Agree, it is about weight an trust. Rafale has similar weight and frame and 20% less trust comparing to Eurofighter, this is main reason why it is slow. Everybody know that it has weak engine comparking to top jets. 3. I wrote it is slow, which is the fact and it matters for non stealth jet. Why you try to deny it and arue about things i didnt mention? Overally it is capable 4th gen fighter, comparable to Eurofighter beside weak engines and speed. 4. Rank? Are you a fighter jet pilot or an aircraft engeneer?
@@jeromeportier4914$1500 billion is a lot more than any country is willing to pay for. No nation is willing to fund R&D for an aircraft program that cost more than building a space station.
typhoon The Eurofighter Typhoon is the world's most advanced new generation multi- role/swing-role combat aircraft available on the market. It represents the peak of British, German, ltalian and Spanish collaborative technology in avionics, aerodynamics, materials, manufacturing techniques and engines. Eurofighter Typhoon is Europe's largest military collaborative programme. Eurofighter Typhoon is the only fighter to offer wide-ranging operational capabilities while at the same time you can't really compare the Raphael to the typhoon because the typhoon is a lot more newer technology and better it doesn't matter because the typhoon is a lot more movability and faster than the raffle jet
