Tywin Lannister: Machiavellianism, Perception & Power

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In-depth analysis of Tywin Lannister.
Tywin Lannister was one of the few characters who possessed a keen understanding of how the world truly operates. He could see through the façade of virtues like honor, pride and bravery, recognizing them as mere tools to deceive those idealistic knights. He was well aware of what truly rules the world: fear, wealth, pragmatism and perception. And this demeanor was often seen as Machiavellian.
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@ValaritasYT 8 месяцев назад

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@chobin7982 8 месяцев назад

Cuz he can and he’s not our bi*ch

@whitequetzal3574 2 месяца назад

It's entirely possible that Tywin was a good man at heart, he simply saw that the security and integrity of the Seven Kingdoms could only be kept if it was fiscally solvent, monetarily in the green and united enough to defend itself against outside invasion from powers wanting to exploit divided realms and conquer them one by one. He saw the threat from the last Targaryen and decided to even ally with bitter enemies like House Martell that he had personally deeply wronged in order to defend the kingdoms from that threat, and I don't assume he would have assumed that would be the last threat. If the fact that he eventually accepted that dragons were real again is any indicator he was probably even preparing to settle his debt with the iron bank through selling titles like Warden of the North to increase his "credit score" for lack of a better term, thereby allowing him to gain enough gold to fight the white walkers. Once that fight was over with, even in Winter, he probably would have invaded Braavos in order to cancel his second debt because of his sheer Machiavellian brilliance, thereby giving him enough capital to conquer the world should he wish it.

@rdkap42 8 месяцев назад

His flaw was failing to see how useful Tyrion was and how dangerous he would be if not praised and given land and title. His Machiavellianism failed him there, it was his blind spot.

@tiringsarcasm 8 месяцев назад

It was less his ability to recognize his usefulness but rather his inability to overcome his grief over Joanna and thus his hatred of Tyrion. Remember Tywin still granted Tyrion the title of Hand of the King instead of leaving Cersei to rule alone in King’s Landing, he even made him Master of Coin after Blackwater. So at barest Minimum he considered Tyrion more useful than even Cersei in this regard. To Tywin, Tyrion is an ugly little reminder of his wife’s death, a cruel practical joke from the gods, old and new.

@heroedeleyenda05 8 месяцев назад

To be honest, i can see his point of view. I dont support him, but i understand. Tyrion was cursed with being a constant reminder of everything that made tywin angry. So angry that it overwhelmed whatever rational thoughts he had. Im not sure if you know of tywins past, but its like everything that happened in tywins life led to him hating tyrion. Tywins dad was the mockery of the lannisport, he got no respect and it made people conspire against him. Then tyrion is born as a dwarf and people make fun of him for that. Then the mad king most likley raped tywins wife and tyrion is born 9 months later. Then joanna dies giving birth to tyrion. Joana, the only person who tywin ever loved and the only person who made him smile. And tyrion is a constant reminder of the rape of his wife and of her death. Finally, the mad king landed tywin a final blow by making jamie a kingsguard, meaning he couldnt marry, making tyrion the only remaining male heir , in other words, making the bastard son of the mad king the only heir to the lannister name.

@aaad3552 8 месяцев назад

cringe. only selfish/jealous/weak ppl need dishoner. its better for selfless ppl to be honorable then dishonorable. otherwise honor would be devalued in society. using this cruel good honor bad messages to get attention its cheap and dishonorable lmao.

@burtan2000 8 месяцев назад

Everyone talks about how ruthlessly pragmatic he was. That he outplayed the starks. But his influence DIED with him. Is it better to be feared or loved? He was feared. Eddard Stark was loved. Stark's influence carried on after his death. Thousands of Northmen seek to avenge the starks or die in the attempt. Tywin's legacy is a house in ruin basically. Cersei will blow the sept and fuck everything up. All three of her kids will die. Kevan - tywin's brother is dead now as well. Jamie will have a redemption arc if he survives stoneheart (which he will obviously). Tyrion is not even a Lannister anymore really.

@iamkailong 8 месяцев назад

Of course he is able to see how good Tyrion is, that’s how Tyrion became Hand of the King. He failed to emotionally understand and connect with his family, and result in not able to predict and control his sons and daughter. This is why he failed.

@josephpercy1558 8 месяцев назад

Undeniably my favorite character in the series. It felt like the show went down the toilet after his demise. Charles Dance literally embodied him, to the point where, if I read the books, I can only imagine his face.

@mrintrovert5068 8 месяцев назад

Thats funny considering the Tywin went down in the toilet.

@cabeleramaster 8 месяцев назад

@@mrintrovert5068tyrion confirms tywin's death because of the smell after he went down, so that's your plotline right there. If only tywin did shit gold tho...

@CarlJunior1111 8 месяцев назад

There is much to be gleaned from a face.

@my_girl_seraphine5294 Месяц назад

The books did too

@mattiaachille233 Месяц назад

That’s gross. If you read the books, you come to know that Tywin constantly humiliates women for no good reason and orders his guards to gang rape Tyrion’s wife for marrying him. Tywin watches it all like some sort of lunatic. It’s insane to me how many people see Tywin as intelligent when he’s simply more vicious and vengeful than any other character in the story. Tywin is worse than every single Targaryen combined into one.

@Orochi2345678 8 месяцев назад

Another point for him. He orchestrated the Red Wedding, but didn’t publicly take any part in it or actually do it. So, while clever characters like Tyrion could figure it out in the eyes of the masses Tywin’s “honor” was never besmirched. He successfully manipulated the majority of the world with that move, while still getting something he wanted.

@hexaldecima6839 7 месяцев назад

He let the Frey and Boltons take the glory of the Red Wedding.

@lpallad1 6 месяцев назад

The suspicion that he was involved, however, is enough to make their enemies hostile. After all, the black fish certainly suspects that Tywin is involved.

@DabroodThompson Месяц назад

It's actually doubtful that Tywin had any part in planning the Red Wedding at all. It was primarily a Frey plot with support from the Boltons and the blessing of the Lannisters. Basically, the only thing the Lannisters did was promise to pardon the Freys and Boltons after they betrayed the North, but the horrible plan was cooked up mostly by the Freys and perpetrated by the Freys and Boltons. The Lannisters are still partly to blame, since they agreed to pardon the culprits, but Tywin shouldn't get too much credit for making an incredibly easy decision.

@TheKulu42 8 месяцев назад

While the Red Wedding ended the war quickly and made the Lannister name something to fear again, Tywin missed a point, I think. He showed it's possible to destroy an enemy family with one well-calculated strike. While some were awed by this move and fear Tywin as a result, others surely thought about employing this tactic themselves. And using it on House Lannister eventually.

@kagekun1198 8 месяцев назад

Lord Tywin's methods and tactics are effective, however, it contrasts with the stellar reputation the Starks have made for themselves. The Red Wedding was a masterstroke, but it left with all of the realm with a deeper animosity for the Freys and Lannisters. It also left Westeros a little worse off than before in tiny ways. Subtle ways, where there is a permanent drop in the quality of life now that guest right has been tainted. Think stricter TSA procedures in a post-9/11 world. Also, every gain Lord Tywin has won for House Lannister is short-lived. Now that he's dead, every ally, every rival, every enemy of House Lannister is out for blood. Control won through fear lasts as long as the fear exists. People have little to fear from a dead man. Meanwhile, in the North, there are multiple conspiracies to overthrow the Boltons and restore House Stark to power. They are still singing praises of Ned Stark and are working to rescue his children four books after his death. That is loyalty that Tywin Lannister can only dream of.

@TheKulu42 8 месяцев назад

@@kagekun1198 Yes, loyalty based on fear doesn't last. This decline could have happened in the long term if Tywin lived, but his health and mentality started to fail. Or sooner when the Lannister gold started to run out.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 7 месяцев назад

The red wedding didn't make house Lannister feared again, it was looked at with disgust which was directed to the Frays and Bolton's because they commited the act.We as the readers know Tywin orchestrated it the realm doesn't, only rumours and gossips. I mean as for the purple wedding it's heavily implied either Tywin had a part in it or was unbothered by it, everyone knew Joffrey had to go specifically Tywin who hated the boy who reminded him of the mad king, so I'm sure him dying to keep the Tyrells alliance even if Tywin knew they did it he would turn a blind eye. But the red wedding and purple are very different one is to swiftly end a war and one was to swiftly kill a mad king to strengthen an alliance, both of which positively benifited House Lannister. Of cause Littlefinger taking Sansa is a different story.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 7 месяцев назад

@@kagekun1198I have to disagree I mean people blame the red wedding on the Frays and Bolton's not the Lannister's that's why many came to Joffrey's wedding.Thats after the red wedding so it's not like they where not trusted or something. Sure Ned has love and loyalty from his Bannerman something Tywin doesn't. But that doesn't make his efficient methods and Ned's lack of political awareness any less true. If Tywin wasn't a narcissist, controlling father and he was able to mold his children into him, the Lannister's would win the game of Thrones.

@kagekun1198 7 месяцев назад

@@MphoLukoto-lx9jk If you want to be that pedantic, then strictly speaking, the Boltons also escaped the blame as nobody is talking about Roose Bolton being the one to personally kill Robb Stark. Also, the main attendants of the Purple Wedding are Lannisters, Tyrells and Oberyn Martell and their assorted bannermen. All of which are mandatory invitees as they are formal allies (on paper). None of the smallfolk or non-Lannister affiliated houses attended the event. There was no invitee that did not have a stake in House Lannister. And the contrast between Ned Stark and Tywin Lannister was the point of the post. Believe it or not, many powerful men cease to be relevant the moment they die. (See Khal Drogo for further details) What sets Ned and House Stark apart from Tywin is the goodwill that they have garnered endures past Ned's death. Sure it sucked for him to die prematurely but in the end, House Stark will outlast this disastrous time because of the support of the Northern houses they have earned.

@thecriticalmaester9702 8 месяцев назад

This is why I loved Tywin as a character. He was always reasonable and rational. Yes, he was the villain, and yes it's fair to say that he's evil, but when you see things from his perspective, it all makes sense. He was a hard man and a ruthless leader, but he could be fair and reasonable at times. In the book, you see that he can even be judicious towards his enemies. In A Storm of Swords, he tries to tell Joffrey that *'...when your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet. Elsewise no man will ever bend the knee to you.'* I think that that line sums him up quite well as a ruler.

@solaris218 8 месяцев назад

Tywin's method of ruling and conquering is very similar to Aegon the first. Aegon showed no mercy to his enemies, only fire and blood. But to those who bent the knee to him, he rewarded with utmost graciousness. The only thing that probably prevented Tywin from conquering the world was his lack of dragons.

@fightingmedialounge519 8 месяцев назад

I wouldn't say it all "makes sense". See his treatment of tyrion.

@thecriticalmaester9702 8 месяцев назад

@@fightingmedialounge519 It's not good, and I'm not saying that Tywin is right in any way, however I understand why Tywin treats Tyrion the way that he does. Firstly, it is because of Westerosi's societal stigmas and perceptions pertaining to dwarfism. That definitely plays a role in it. However, it is also because Tywin associates that with the loss of his late and beloved wife. Tywin obviously blames Tyrion for the fact that he lost Joanna - the only person that he truly and fully loved unselfishly. Now, again, it is not right for Tywin to blame Tyrion for that, and obviously I'm not trying to justify his behaviour towards Tyrion (I actually condemn it and believe that it was despicable), but I can also understand where it comes from. It makes logical sense when you think about it through the lens of everything that Tywin has been through in his life. Tywin probably sees Tyrion as a manifestation of some curse from the gods - which would also make it more understandable why he would turn against the religion in the first place. Tywin is an atheist in the book, and also on the show, though a part of him probably fears that the whisperings are actually true and that Tyrion is a curse from the gods set down to destroy him and everything that he's tried to build. So Tywin projects a lot of fears, insecurities and blame onto Tyrion. It's not right - but I understand it.

@fightingmedialounge519 8 месяцев назад

@@thecriticalmaester9702 I never claimed you did, so that's irrelevant. Understanding why he does it and it making sense are two very different sentiments. Except nothing about that stigma advocates fathers to have their sons wife's raped. That was all tywin operating under his bruised ego. Again, I'm correcting you on the claim that everything tywin did was rational. Morality has nothing to do with it. Except logic is not predicated on personal views; quite the opposite in fact. What you're describing is his biases dictating his actions. It's only implied in the books, and in the the show he explicitly isn't an atheist considering he says he views tyrion as a punishment from the gods( he may hate God's, but that's not the same as being an atheist who doesn't believe in them). His hatred has very little to do with religious superstition and comes from his personal insecurities( such as his relationship with his father and his own faults he sees in tyrion). To say tywin is always rational and reasonable either requires you to ignore his entire relationship with tyrion, or deliberately misinterpret it to fit your treasured traits of the character.

@cthulhuspawn6290 8 месяцев назад

@@fightingmedialounge519yeah, if everything he did was purely logical, then he would have relied on tyrion a whole lot more. Or he would have had him killed at birth.

@AdamNoizer 8 месяцев назад

In the show, yes. In the books, his "understanding of how the world truly operates" is warped by his inflated ego and superiority complex. Leading him to make decisions that are disastrous in both the short and long term by virtue of him underestimating the agency and power of every other faction and individual playing the game.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 8 месяцев назад

How so I could argue his far more impressive in the books than in the show?

@AdamNoizer 8 месяцев назад

@@MphoLukoto-lx9jk He loses every single battle against the North during the WoTFK (apart from against Roose) and wins the war solely because Tyrion and Littlefinger arranged a marriage alliance with the Tyrells and both the Freys and Karstarks had abandoned Robb during his return from the Westerlands. He was on the verge of total defeat and played little role in Joffery's victory. Tywin also massively underestimates just about every single one of his rivals due to his own superiority complex. He deluded himself into believing that Tyrion could just waltz into the North and the Northern lesser houses would just accept it being a Lannister ruled province because Tywin had forced Sansa and Tyrion to marry. He convinced himself that the Tyrells would just accept being repeatedly undermined despite the massive amount of leverage they had over the crown and that they would just accept Cersei marrying Willas of Highgarden, Jaime marrying Margaery and believed that they were little more than lackies. And he would face no consequences for this belief. For all his idle bickering over legacy, he manages to completely destroy his relationship with all three of his children. He disowns Jaime when Jaime refused to eject himself from the Kingsguard and marry Margaery (a plan that would never have worked since Mace Tyrell wanted her to be queen, not some Lannister lady). He makes Tyrion's life a living hell - a move that turns out to be *literally* suicidal. He also admits he sees Cersei as little more than a breeding machine - a mentality she has internalised and herself become an incredibly selfish, miserable and scheming individual who isn't as clever as she thinks she is. Overall, Tywin was by no means a tactically incompetent person (see what happened to the Reynes and Tarbecks). But he was an absolutely terrible judge of character and this is primarily due to his enormous superiority complex.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 8 месяцев назад

@@AdamNoizer He loses every battle against the Northerners in the war, true but Lord Tywin isn't really portrayed as a great general more off a political mastermind Wins the war solely because Littlefinger and Tyrion arranged a marriage with the Tyrrell's??? Firstly how does this win them the war? Secondly do you really think Tywin would be unable to realise the Tyrrell's could be ally's, I mean throughout his life he's been making matches for his sons and daughters. Tywin came up with the red wedding he caused the Frays and Bolton's to betray the Starks. Tyrion was ordered by Tywin to make sure the small council was loyal to the crown which led to Tyrion making that arrangement with Littlefinger. Read chapter 53 SOS Tywin actually planned for the Stark loyalists to fight the Bolton's and Greyjoys, and when thier all weakened he would declare Tyrion and Sansa's son as Lord of Winterfell as he would be the only living Stark aside from Jon I suppose. Tywin was planning on taking the North by force if it came to that. I knew Tywin wanted Cersei to marry Willa's which is honestly not that far fetched especially considering he had other choices and when Mace Tyrell denied him he reacted calmly and in a understanding manner, I don't think he had a infuriaty complex and if he did he didn't make stupid decisions because of it. But he intended for Jamie to marry Mergeery???? That would be crazy what chapter

@AdamNoizer 8 месяцев назад

@@MphoLukoto-lx9jk The marriage alliance with the Tyrells wins them the war because it adds another eighty thousand men to Joffery's army and is the reason Stannis lost at the Battle of Blackwater. The Red Wedding was not what defeated Robb Stark. Robb Stark lost the war when half of his army (the Karstarks and the Freys) deserted him en masse during his return from the Westerlands. By the time of the Red Wedding, Robb had been forced to abandon all of his gains in the war and return North to retake his kingdom from the Ironborn. Tywin's orchestration of the Red Wedding was essentially just the killing blow after Robb had already lost. Which "Stark Loyalists" would bend the knee to Tyrion Lannister as Lord of Winterfell? Sure, they may recognise Sansa but that's about it. Expecting Stark Loyalists to bend the knee to the Iron Throne after Joffery murdered Ned is crazy enough, but the North bending the knee to a Lannister Warden of the North is pure fantasy. Tywin believing he could simply "take the north by force" is delusional. He correctly assess that the Boltons would be unable to do this because of its size and decentralisation, but believes that he would be somehow free from such limitations. In summary, Tywin was a fairly competent politician, an average military commander and an absolutely poor judge of character. *Edit:* Per your question, he demanded that Jaime renounce his position as LC of the Kingsguard and suggested he marry Margaery in ASOS Jaime VII.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 8 месяцев назад

@@AdamNoizer But you fail to realise the reason the Frays left the Starks course because Robb broke his oath when he married Jeyne which Tywin and Sybelle Spicer where conspiring together about to lose him the alliance with the Frays and to make sure Tyrion get's Winterfell, and he was already conspiring with Roose at the time and I believe even without the red wedding they would have found another way to kill Robb, so the fact that Tywin is the reason Roose and Walder even want to betray Robb is enough to say he orchestrated it. "Which Stark loyalists would bend the knee" they wouldn't have a choice and if Tywins plan of attacking at thier weakest they would literally be destroyed if they fought back, the Lannister's combined with the Tyrrell's have 90 000 man in King's Landing alone. Tywin does not believe in honour or any type of morality like he told Wayman Manderly they should bend the knee or end up like the rain's of castemere. Tywin isn't a poor Judge of character he just wants things to go his way all the time, his description of characters like Roose Bolton, Tyrion, Oberyn, Robb, Joffrey and Doran are extremely accurate. I mean I just read the chapter and it's not like Tywin is demanding for Jamie to marry Mageery he offered it as a suggestion, if Mace Tyrell refused he wouldn't he would probably understand same way he reacted when they refused the Cersei and Willa's I'd he's more opportunistic than having a inferiority complex because if he did he would find Mace denying his proposal as an insult

@shinwanate 8 месяцев назад

The funny thing is that he fell because he ignored one Machiavellian principle--That yes, "It is better to be feared than to be loved," but Machiavelli only a few sentences later states that one should NEVER allow themselves to be hated--otherwise one's conspirators will multiply. In other words, be tough, but don't push people to the edge... as he did with Tyrion.

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

Not just with Tyrion. In general Tywin, with his ways, has piled up a lot of hatred under the carpet. After all, it was his fault that Dorne and the Targaryens hated the Lannisters. And the Red Wedding induced only distrust and hatred in the men of the north, not fear. So the truth is that Tywin brought the Lannisters to power but at the same time planted the seeds of their downfall. Because what he created had such weak foundations that killing it was enough to make it collapse like a house of cards.

@movieverse2626 8 месяцев назад

Charles Dance was phenomenal...

@heroedeleyenda05 8 месяцев назад

You missed Tywins greatest victory. When he put down a rebellion by sending a musician to play the rains of castamere. Not only did he put down the rebellion, and made the rebelious lord submit... -He did it without a drop of blood spilled on either side. -He saved the lives of his troops, but also the lives of the rebellious lord's troops, which also happen to be lannister troops if he ever needs to call their banners. -He also saved money by not having to mount a full military campaign. -He prevented commerce from being interrupted since armies are composed mostly of common folk. -Whatever plans he had at the time didnt get derailed by a war. -he won the respect and fear of the realm. -His house name was greatly improved by the tactic -And he won a subservient lord who wont dare cross him in the future. Not just that, It would be impossible to gather enough military and financial support after word spread of what happened. The lord's bannermen would not heed his call knowing the danger involved, and his ravens would be left on "read" This is a great victory in my book, as well ans in sun tzu's book, the art of war.

@lavellelee5734 8 месяцев назад

Super power move

@lpallad1 4 месяца назад

Exact. And this is because that lord was not only afraid of him, but he TRUSTED him. He trusted that Tywin had the resources and the mind to carry out his threat to him, and he trusted that he would leave him alone if he submitted. What do you think he would have done if he thought Tywin would still kill him and his entire family even if he surrendered?

@blecao 8 месяцев назад

"a dozen at dinner" My brother you slaugthered the whole army and nobles you didnt just kill a dozen

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 8 месяцев назад

I think he was referring to the morality of it, most people call it dishounarable because they where killed in a wedding when they where given guest rights. But those same people wouldn't have a problem with more than that on the battlefield. I think the main point he was making was that death is death.

@facundogonza5740 8 месяцев назад

@@MphoLukoto-lx9jk No he was genuinely deluding himself. Ther eis NO morality in what he did. And turned the war of the Five Kings into something close toa war of GODS. Like WHY people keep ignoring that Magic is real?

@alvanisoares8344 8 месяцев назад

A Brazilian saying: Independente irmão.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 8 месяцев назад

@@facundogonza5740 "deluding himself" magic isn't a common thing in the Westeros world you only think it is because you're looking at it from a reader's perspective, but it's crazy to think a guy as pragmatic as Tywin would believe in such.

@facundogonza5740 8 месяцев назад

@@MphoLukoto-lx9jk And that costs him everything.

@pjmisi 8 месяцев назад

Tywin also hated Tyrion because Tyrion represented the real Tywin not the symbol he had carefully cultivated over his life. Tywin’s father slept with commoner women and even bought them jewelry, Tyrion does this and in the climatic final scene he is in Tywin has slept with Shae whilst having Shae rock his chain of office. The guy lived in shame behind closed doors and probably hated Tyrion for daring to live a life true to himself, consorting with commoners and even bedding them.

@ilphi08 8 месяцев назад

But Tywin's view came back to bite the lannisters in a big way Both Tywin and Ned were only half-right You can't rull the smallfolks with only fear or with only honor either Tywin rules with ironfists, smallfolks were terrified of them But while people in westeros recognize their power, but no one likes them The Lannisters are as powerful as their gold would last The moment they show weakness, they'll become vulnerable Meanwhile, the starks honor and affection from the others, is why so many plans are put in action to restore a Stark in power

@Ilyas-ty6cy 8 месяцев назад

Well, Tywin while really ruthless he actually treat anyone who serve him graciously and reward them for their contribution, he also not sadistic who will kill anyone who fail at their mission or not meet his standard. The reason why he can make his house strong (trusted by many Lords) and prosperous. Even also made the Westeros prosperous and reach the golden age when he become the Hand of the King. The issue with Tywin is, just don't be his enemy or stand on his way, and he also a bad a father for their children basically the first step of his house destruction.

@georgeprchal3924 8 месяцев назад

And then they betrayed the Starks. "Casterly Rock does not suffer betrayals, not since Tywin Lannister was old enough to go to war."

@ilphi08 8 месяцев назад

@@georgeprchal3924Mainly the Boltons, Ryswells, part Umbers and part Karstarks Rest of them are still loyal to the Starks and absolutely hate the Boltons for betraying them

@Ilyas-ty6cy 8 месяцев назад

@@ilphi08 Bolton it's basically a rival house in the north for Stark for a many centuries before GoT. They basically second powerful house after Stark, and only follow Stark when it's safer options. But since Stark become weak the longer war progress. Then yes they very likely will take the chance to take over Stark position.

@ilphi08 8 месяцев назад

@@Ilyas-ty6cy My point was, Most of the northern lords besides the boltons love the starks not because the starks were the most powerful house But the same can be said about the lannisters Lords in the westerlands obey Tywin not because they love the lannisters, it was because the lannisters were the most powerful and the most ruthless house But if there comes a day, when the lannisters show weakness and no longer as powerful, westerlands would react opposite to the northern lords Westerlands lords are as loyal to house lannister as the degree they are powerful

@tereza1959 8 месяцев назад

You know a character is fascinating when even after doing the most cruel and disgusting things imaginable people still like them. Tywin is probably my favorite character, i hate his actions but I love him as a character and a player of the game of thrones. ❤🦁

@Crichjo32 8 месяцев назад

Basically Tywin had it all figured out...except for his children, especially Tyrion. That was his achilles heel.

@thegreenreaper6660 8 месяцев назад

Tywin's absolute mistreatement of Tyrion, purely for blaming the sad misfortune of Joanna dying during Tyrion's birth, and the 'little Lion's misformed body made Tywin blínd to Tyrion's actual potential and intelligence? Tyrion knéw he wouldnt ever be a great fighter like Jaime, and as 2nd Son, also not lord of Casterly Rock, thus Tyrion realized he had to be good at other things: Politics, reading people and understanding the world! Tyrion knew he always had a general disadvantage, thus Tyrion read, and learned to creáte himself an advantage towards those who héld that general advantage: Knowledge, to expand his intelligence! Tyrion, at a fairly young age, did an excellent job as Acting Hand, in Tywin's absense.. yet instead of realizing Tyrion's value, Tywin picked on the one slight he could pin on Tyrion: 'he brought a whore into the Tower of the Hand"... Not how Tyrion just danced around the Small Counsil and held them in an Iron Grasp, not his brílliant planning in defending the Capitol against Stannis...gréat features!! No that insignificant slight about f*cking a whore... A meaningless blame vs the great achievements Tyrion made, when 'being thrown before the lions' in King's Landing's politics. Even if Tyrion hadent brought Shay, or even laid with a single woman in his time as Acting Hand, Tywin would have found sómething to slight and blame Tyrion of, isntead of actually giving him praise.... Tywin's mockery to Tyrion, after the battle of 'jugglers and singers need applause'....Tyrion didnt care for applause or praise from the commoners: 'a Lion doesnt concern himself with the opinion of the sheep'.. No Tyrion had expected a bit more respect or reckognition from the person that mattered to him: his Father, Tywin! Actually the one man that mattered MOST in Westeros! Tywin didnt give Tyrion any credit at all... yet without Tyrion...any other 'acting Hand', would it have been Tywin's brother Kevan, or his son Jaime: neither would have come up with that Wildfire-bombboat...From all the 'capable rulers' in the Westerlands, none could measure up against Tywin...except one: Tyrion! That was Tywins gréatest mistake

@Crichjo32 8 месяцев назад

@@thegreenreaper6660 you described it perfectly. Tyrion was completely screwed over by almost everyone, but most of all his own father. This did ultimately cause Tywin's ultimate downfall - causing the most feared man in Westeros to die a most humiliating death on a toilet.

@macleunin 8 месяцев назад

Despite his ruthlessness, his years as hand of the king were very prosperous for the realm, and relatively peaceful, with small rebellions and wars that were quickly dealt with.

@lpallad1 5 месяцев назад

Already. But when he managed to put his daughter on the throne, things went terribly wrong. And in fact, as Ultron would say, Tywin confuses peace with quiet.

@darthJ9 8 месяцев назад

Brilliant video, the comments have been a blast to read as well. Also, can we all just acknowledge how perfect Charles Dance was for the role of Tywin on the show? His time on Thrones was considered peak adaptation of a source material its like he brought some of Tywin's perfection to the show, it declined after he left, among other reasons. GRRM used Tywin as a proxy to just do the most major story propelling actions across atleast half of everything he's written so far. His death directly leads to the coming of chaos in the realm, you could argue that if he hadn't died literally nothing that happened to the Realm afterwards would have. A one-man powerhouse holding the realm down through sheer will and ruthlessness. One of the most compelling characters ever conceived, period.

@thescarecrow897 8 месяцев назад

Tywin was a true genius, easily my favorite character in the entire show

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

Too bad he was immature, apathetic, superficial, and never thought about the unexpected and long-term consequences of his actions.

@dawn1424 2 месяца назад

@@lpallad1 he did, thats why he forged alliances and spared those who rebelled in the war of the 5 kings. His untimely death lead to cersei taking power which drove everything to shit, but tywin would never have allowed such an idiot to take control. He knew what he had in jaime and kevan, if jaime had taken over as the head of house lannister house lannister would have continued it's legacy. A legacy that never wouldve been restored if it wasnt for tywin

@lpallad1 2 месяца назад

@@dawn1424 Too bad that if Cersei took control and didn't know what to do it was Tywin's fault because he didn't raise her better (since the only thing he taught her is that since she is a Lannister she is above any law and all non-Lannisters are just inferior beings to be crushed under her foot). Because Tywin never taught his family to get along without him. And Tywin died as a result of something he did. And what actually happened is that his death left his family at the mercy of the consequences of his actions. After all, whose fault is it that Dorne hates the Lannisters? Whose fault is it that the North and the Riverlands hate the Lannisters? Then it was he who filled the court with traitors, turncoats, and people who bowed to him with gnashed teeth. What he actually did was put his family in the spotlight, but without him they got burned. To put his family on the throne he filled it with enemies who did not hesitate to take advantage of his death to take revenge for the suffering he inflicted on them, and some of them would have moved even if he had still been alive. What the Purple Wedding represents is in fact the moment of maximum power of the Lannisters before life and Karma begin to take the toll for all the dishonest and immoral things they have done to get there.

@OriginalGazGoose 8 месяцев назад

The only ever true failing Tywin had was never being able to separate his work and ideology from his personal life and relationship with his family. Ultimately Tywin has isolated himself from everyone that COULD love and care for him but because he has to remain as the almighty Lord of the Westerlands he died and his family imploded soon after

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 7 месяцев назад

This is my perspective of his character too a man who was worried too much on perseption rather than his actual family and if you look at his entire life this has been biting him for years.Tywin didn't care about his actual family at all he only cared about legacy so he uses them as pawns and wants them to be like him without any emotional attachments. But as soon as he dies we see his family's legacy was all a lie, it was his legacy that was good not the family's everyone feared and respected him not his family. Though he did leave his family in a relatively safe spot before he died they where not capable enough to hold it because of him. The Targaryens ruled with fear and formed a dynasty because they had dragons to keep that fear while the Lannister have that fear and respect because of Tywins competence as a lord something he failed to mold in his children due to his tyrannical way of raising them.

@lpallad1 6 месяцев назад

@@MphoLukoto-lx9jk But the Targaryens continued to reign for many years even after losing the dragons. And this is because they were both feared and loved. The Lannisters with Tywin were only feared, but they were also hated. This is why their decline has been so rapid. Tywin may have brought the Lannisters to power, but at the same time he planted the seeds of their downfall.

@esrasimge8351 8 месяцев назад

I'm not a fan of tywin but I have to admit it's hard to not respect him for what he achieved in his life.

@CaleebTalib 8 месяцев назад

Big fan of Tywin here. He is the most realistic “bad guy” ever portrayed in media. His own house was on the brink of collapse because of his father but he saved it and Post Targaryen overthrow returned the realm to peace as well so it’s not like he’s even a bad ruler. Can be a huge asshole but generally does well for everyone close to him (except Tyrion lol)

@MiguelLopez-yc2rh 8 месяцев назад

I find ironic everything he achieved in his long life is going to be quickly ruined by his 3 children

@TheDONing1 8 месяцев назад

@@MiguelLopez-yc2rhThe three children that HE failed to raise.

@wallybonejengles5595 8 месяцев назад

Too bad he neglected his kids so bad their daddy issues drive all he did to ruin.

@MiguelLopez-yc2rh 8 месяцев назад

@@TheDONing1 Which means his biggest failure will ruin all his great achievements. Karma is a bitch

@Metathrom 8 месяцев назад

Tywyn, Little Finger and Varys are my favorite characters in the franchise. Through scheming and strategy they achieve what some others try with brute force or old traditions. But while Tywyn ultimately to his own weak spot, which was underestimating Tyrion, the other two fell prey to writers who just didn't understand (or respect) subterfuge and intricate games of power. All three of them were just too smart for D&D to handle.

@TheSuperhomosapien 8 месяцев назад

I still subscribe to the theory that Tyrion wasn't Twin's son, but was the result of Aerys rape of Joanna. Tywin couldn't admit that Tyrion wasn't his son without also pretty much telling everyone what happened to Joanna, which he would have considered to be disgraceful to Joanna's memory, and that is where his resentment comes from.

@christianbolze2441 8 месяцев назад

Tywin controlled Westeros due to some circumstances he also was involved in: 1. No strong royal power: Robert was not a good King and everyone knew it. As was Aerys. A strong King would have leashed Tywin and this never happened without a good strong candidate. Rhaegar may have been able to, but who knows. 2. Use of intimidation: like the Targaryen with their dragons the old lion used intimidation to get his way and did this by extinguishing 2 strong and ancient houses in the Westerlands. After the Reynes and Tarbecks no one could stand up to him due to fear 3. Cersei: without her he wouldnt have so much influence on Robert and the capital. He had no seat in the council so he needed to rely on Cersei He also set up his house to fail in the long run.

@sylvesterlukoto1437 6 месяцев назад

1 A strong king wouldn't have leashed Tywin a strong king would realize his wisdom and cunning to maintain peace and to better the realm like the 20 years he caused during Aerys reign instead of being jealous why not utilize your servents strengths? People don't realize every atrocities Tywin made he was never the aggressor it was always his enemies or family. 3 It was because of Tywin Cersei became queen his decision to kill the Targaryan children for Robert made them royalty. He did perfectly set his house up for failure for a guy that pragmatic and smart you would think he'd be smart enough to realize he won't be alive forever and actually focus on the people that will carry on his legacy 😂

@lpallad1 4 месяца назад

@@sylvesterlukoto1437 Already. Because Tywin never thought about the contingencies and long-term consequences of his actions. And he filled his house with enemies who did not hesitate to take advantage of his death. Under Tywin's policies men like Gregor Clegane, Walder Frey and Roose Bolton always go unpunished.

@bigpictureguys8415 3 месяца назад

I’d say he set his house up to succeed but his kids botched it

@lpallad1 3 месяца назад

@@bigpictureguys8415 And it also happened because he has always been a terrible father. And then he never knew how to understand the difference between fear and hate.

@jerrydietzel2882 8 месяцев назад

When it comes to playing the game of thrones Tywin was one of if not the best at it.

@MK-fz6il 8 месяцев назад

I admit I do have mixed feelings about the show, but I absolutely love Tywin Lannister's character. Fiercely intelligent, calculating, ruthless and intimidating. And I take my hat off to Charles Dance for his phenomenal portrayal of the character. That man should take a bow

@regulus5279 8 месяцев назад

I wish Tywin & Tyrion could team up, they would be unstoppable...

@subutaynoyan5372 8 месяцев назад

Machievellianism isn't just about ambition, but also a fundemental understanding of order. Being complacent, misguided or overly symphatetic as a ruler can have severe consequences that costs the people you are ruling

@georgeprchal3924 8 месяцев назад

Tyrion, Jaime, Cersei: Are you ashamed of us? Tywin: Very! Them: So what's more important? Us or legacy? Tywin: Legacy! Jaime: Ouch. Tyrion: He didn't even need think about it. Cersei: No he did not.

@simplelife4213 8 месяцев назад

Best analysis of Tywin I've ever heard. Couldn't agree more.

@turdferguson2874 8 месяцев назад

One of the greatest performances for one of the greatest character of all time. Charles Dance was amazing

@thegreenreaper6660 8 месяцев назад

Agreed. To write such a character in a script is one thing. But the way Charles Dance brought that character to life, in such an astonishing way; Every single scene he was in, he OWNED it! HE Was the centerpoint, évery single thing went EXACTLY as Tywin Lannister wanted, and the whole manner of how Charles Dance portrayed thát intimidating authority, was just a pure masterclass! From the introduction: skinning a Stag(wonderful symbolism!), or climbing the steps to the Iron Throne, and make that little shit of a Goffrey, crawl away in that chair out of FEAR for Tywin, to literally 'sending the most powerful man in Westeros, to bed without his supper'... Even the viewers would get a bit intimidated by such a character... You would start to háte Tywin for being such a ruthless man, but you understood his motives and respected it! To portray such a huge character, in such a way is just an enormous skill!

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

@@thegreenreaper6660 Technically not everything went the way Tywin wanted, because he didn't want Sansa to escape, for Tyrion to kill him, and for what he created to end with his death. He wanted the Lannister rule to last for centuries, but he failed in this regard.

@nunyabiznes33 8 месяцев назад

I like that the Tyrells managed to achieve success without people being threatened and (openly) hating them. No doubt they're every bit Macchiavelian as Tywin but they found a middle ground where they can operate while maintaining good PR.

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 8 месяцев назад

I think that has to do with them having capable children while Tywin keeps getting dragged into Unwin able conflicts by his children where he is forced to employ these cruel things.

@arunakoyanbron8927 8 месяцев назад

@@MphoLukoto-lx9jkIf Joanna had lived the Lannister kids would have 200 iq each. But that's exactly why she had to die

@MphoLukoto-lx9jk 8 месяцев назад

@@arunakoyanbron8927 exactly the seeds of house Lannister's doom was right after she died, not only did Tywin become cold and emotionless towards his family according to Genna, Cersei and Gerion, it also left the Lannister children without a mother for emotional and personal support. This is made pretty obvious when Jaime reveals that Joana found out and tried to stop thier incestuous relationship, imagine if she was alive how many things could have been prevented. No mother would allow thier kids hating each other imagine the Lannister's working together as the Tyrells do Cersei's ruthlessness and dedication to family, Tyrions political cunning and Jaime's battle talent would made for a great generation for house Lannister.

@lpallad1 2 месяца назад

@@MphoLukoto-lx9jk Yeah. The mistakes Tywin made were being a terrible father and not knowing the difference between fear and hate. This ruin the Lannister.

@katsmith8263 8 месяцев назад

I'd like to watch more about Tywin from you please 🙏 🎉🎉😂😂❤❤❤

@ValaritasYT 8 месяцев назад

Why not??

@HisameArtwork 8 месяцев назад

@@ValaritasYT you make Tyrion sound like such a problem, but then don't explain why Tywin never killed him. It's not like he couldn't afford it.

@ValaritasYT 8 месяцев назад

It's mostly from Tywin's perspective + he already said it in the show why he didn't kill him. @HisameArtwork

@danyf.1442 8 месяцев назад

IIRC Machiavelli also said something like you should try not to be hated too much or it's.going to bite you in the ass...exactly what happened to Tywin.

@thebatman7192 3 месяца назад

Tywin Was Unbeatable. His Only Flaw Was Not Killing Tyrion On The Day He Was Born.

@lpallad1 2 месяца назад

No instead. If he had killed Tyrion, he would not have won the Battle of the Blackwater. His mistake was that he should have treated him with love and respect and helped him realize his potential.

@87krull 8 месяцев назад

In a gentler time/life perhaps he could have been as successful without being ruthless. He is the kind of person whom adapts to the world he is in.

@vgernyc 4 месяца назад

His interaction with Arya shows a once softer side that briefly emerged but almost always buried. What happened to him and his wife in relation to the Mad King really darkened his heart to the world.

@goodneighborsnetwork 4 месяца назад

Thoughtful analysis. Well done.

@paulhammSOLD 8 месяцев назад

This video was my introduction to your channel and have gone down the content rabbit hole. Good stuff brother 🤝🏾

@ValaritasYT 8 месяцев назад

Welcome aboard!

@christopherthrawn1333 Месяц назад

Excellent breakdown

@PrasoonSingh07 2 месяца назад

Incredible explanation

@ELMATITV 2 месяца назад

I loved your essay! Keep it up

@colombusoho2741 7 месяцев назад

Great analyse thank you.

@truetory6231 21 день назад

The irony about this is that Tywin said, "Lion doesn't concern himself with the opinion of the sheep". Yet it is clear that he WAS concerned about opinion, that's why his image was so important to him.

@TheOneStrategist 5 месяцев назад

Great analysis Sir

@lawv804 3 месяца назад

An audio book of Robert Greene's "The 48 Laws of Power", narrated by Charles Dance as Tywin, would be beyond awesome.

@_Fulgur_ Месяц назад

tywin lannister and the lannister house is the epitome of "our power comes from the perception of our power"

@sankarkrishnan407 8 месяцев назад

In hell Tywin Lannister is furious and very angry. His golden son and daughter are dead. The son whom he hated and murdered was the hand of the king and the Lord of Casterly Rock. The family he thinks he wiped out from the world rules the seven kingdoms.

@georgeprchal3924 8 месяцев назад

Hopefully none of those things happen in the books.

@bookswithike3256 8 месяцев назад

@@georgeprchal3924 Well Cersei at the least is absolutely dying. Though I'm betting my money on all three of them biting it.

@georgeprchal3924 8 месяцев назад

@@bookswithike3256 hopefully Jaime realizes his dreams and strangles her.

@nikolasimoni5018 2 месяца назад

I heared someone say a quote about tywin:Tywins only weakness was his blind hatred of Tyrion" and it indeed was

@slimtig3r755 21 день назад

Machiavellianism isn’t just about who the best cameras. The prince is also a guide on how to deal with certain situations and different types of people.

@dwaniscool 8 месяцев назад

Excellent!

@ValaritasYT 8 месяцев назад

Many thanks!

@krassawatmakul6753 Месяц назад

I’ve just seen your channel I am normal dune’s FC , watch your clip about Leto II Golden Path - nice explanation and easily understandable. Suddenly I see this clip about Tywin , how wonderful when I watched GoT I feels how of his administration to shape his power and resources, I love the scene that he explained Arya (in boy cover) that made him respectful Now I add good channel in my YT follows. Keep channeling 👍🏼🎉

@ValaritasYT Месяц назад

Welcome aboard!

@MrFredstt 8 месяцев назад

People may disagree but to me GoT was the best when Tywin was still alive

@kman13131 8 месяцев назад

I dont understand the idolization of Tywin, sure he achieved great power but the way he operated essentially created the collapse of his entire house. Everything he achieved crumbles with his death because when you rule from fear that power ceases to exist after your death. But the Starks ruled through respect, and in the books after they're essentially wiped out they still have vassals plotting to put them back into power.

@randomcenturion7264 8 месяцев назад

Tywin is pretty much Princess Leia's warning of, "The together you grip the more people slip through your fingers" come to life. Every thing he did worked SHORT-TERM. In the end, he died on the shitter, leaving behind two incestuous half-wits and a resentful son as his legacy. He burned every bridge he had so he could build a house on sand.

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

@@randomcenturion7264 Real. This is because Tywin was a terrible father who raised his children poorly, was immature, apathetic and superficial, never thought about the long-term consequences of what he did, and thought so much about the family's political position that he ignored any other needs. He always underestimated the hatred and resentment of his enemies and the gravity and horror of what he did. And in fact the Purple Wedding represents the moment of maximum power of the Lannisters before life and karma begin to take the toll for everything they have done.

@jimboslice6367 8 месяцев назад

Outstanding father as well

@emiliorperez6309 2 месяца назад

thank you

@austinbridges518 8 месяцев назад

Closest anyone came to "winning" the Game. He was almost there, on the cusp, but he couldn't set aside his hatred for Tyrion.

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

Technically he is partly responsible for what happened after his death. it's his fault that the north hated the south after the red wedding, it's his fault that Dorne hated the Lannisters, and he, by putting his family on the throne, made them a target of many enemies, precisely because it was also Tywin who filled the court with traitors, turncoats, and people who bowing to him with gnashin teeth. His victory was only an appearance, and what he had created had foundations too weak to last. As Ultron say, Tywin confusing peace with quiet.

@twiss9341 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the vid

@ivanf4536 8 месяцев назад

I feel his biggest failure was how distant he was in raising his grandchildren. He didn’t get Jaime to quit after 15 years of beings a kings guard.

@maedre1759 8 месяцев назад

I would like him to be my grandfather and teach me how to rule

@tang1971 3 месяца назад

Well done

@Kaorak 7 дней назад

Tywin is known for his stoic, extremely intelligent and calculating attitude, and also his cold, manipulative and often unrestrained personality, even towards his family. The character insists that everything he does is because of his family. Tywin's own father, Lord Tytos, was a generous and caring man whose misinvestments and indecision brought House Lannister to ruin. As a result, when admitting to Arya Stark that Tytos was "a good man", Tywin regarded his father's kindness as a source of weakness. Therefore, he successfully rebuilt his family's fortune almost single-handedly, and this, coupled with his total destruction of House Reyne, led him to embrace ruthlessness as a principle of keeping the family in power. Ironically, his harsh actions and unwillingness to serve as a caring father figure have resulted in severe emotional problems in all three of his children, who are terrified of him. Tywin only sporadically visited his home at Casterly Rock, and on the occasions when he returned, he would deal with severe punishment for any transgressions his children committed while he was away. Overall, however, for a man who claims to value family above all else, Tywin hypocritically destroyed his relationships with his own children. And even though he was a very efficient ruler, Tywin made FIVE (5) COLOSSAL MISTAKES: I) he always seeks to promote the interests of his house, even at the expense of the kingdom (for example, he would not forgive the crown's debt to House Lannister); II) his methods are excessively cruel: he employs extremely brutal warriors like Mountain and Lorch, gives them freedom to commit atrocities while carrying out his orders and has no qualms about killing small children, babies or even entire houses; III) even though he believes that family is the most important thing to him, he mistreats his children and sees his legacy as more important to him than family, that his house needs so many heirs to build House Lannister; IV) although Tywin is powerful and respected, his power was only built on fear, which made his house vulnerable after his death; V) Tywin's power, arrogance and stubbornness made him believe he was more superior than anyone or anything, even the gods, old and new. Committing acts, such as the Red Wedding, believing that no consequences would follow from their actions, even disregarding the words "Northerners will never forget", never realizing that their hold on the North would be lost and their home would be brought into a dangerous situation by their daughter in her mad quest for power. In the end, his infinite prioritization of his legacy over his children ended up destroying his goal and killing him as well: after many years of abuse, hatred and disrespect, Tyrion killed him and thanks to Cersei's foolishness and selfishness, destroyed Jaime, the rest of the family and Cersei herself. All of this can again be attributed to Tywin's arrogance, because he never believed that any of his children could actually oppose him, or even kill him, and also never really understood the extent to which in terms of cruelty, incompetence and deep selfishness Cersei was willing to go for power. Ironically, Olenna's relationship with her granddaughter Margaery showed how Tywin could relate to his children without being mean, overbearing, or cruel; and again, his fiercely conservative nature prevented him from understanding how important a positive relationship with them was and,... Now the head of House Lannister, Lord Paramount of the Westerlands and Lord of Castelry Rock is Tyrion, the son Tywin never wanted to be his heir, although everyone - except Tywin and Cersei - recognized as best suited for the role, perhaps even better than Tywin himself would ever have been. Other power moves: 1- never ask permission! 2- make yourself so independent that you don’t need them 3- make yourself indispensable 4- power is in the way you stare, your voice, your walk, your posture. 5- you must have courage to be powerful 6- have the courage to walk away from what doesn’t serve you. 7- have strong boundaries.

@KhalkedonYT 8 месяцев назад

one true king of seven kingdoms! his misfortune was there was not smart enough people except for Tyrion.

@AndreFlickUS 8 месяцев назад

great video! keep up with your good work gjjjjj

@matro2 8 месяцев назад

The ends justify the means. It's not a belief, it's an observation. If you win, you can write the history.

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

Not always. After all, Spartacus and Guy Fawkes lost, but history still remembers them as heroes fighting a corrupt system, not as criminals. And that saying doesn't even apply because Tywin's give positions of power to corrupt, evil, dishonest, and untrustworthy men.

@penvzila 2 месяца назад

He didn't even solve his own family. All of his major battles were losses, and he was executed by someone on death row.

@pushista9322 8 месяцев назад

Tywin is a sociopath. That gave him an upper hand in many conflicts which non-sociopathic people. In the end, it's the ability to make yourself numb to other people's suffering that allows you to ascend the social ladder.

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

But at the same time it is the cause of your downfall, because the truth is that Tywin did many dishonest and immoral things to bring the Lannisters to power, never thinking about the long-term consequences or the risks he faced if something went wrong. And in fact the defeat of the Lannisters is the definitive consequence of his actions, because he put his family in the spotlight, but without him they got burned. Because he thought so much about the family's political position that he ignored any other needs and wants of the family.

@pushista9322 7 месяцев назад

@@lpallad1 But there was small chance of Tyrion passing by Tywin's privy that night. If it wasn't for that, Tyrion would have been dead and Tywin a big boss kicking asses around

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

@@pushista9322 That was Karma, and his death was a consequence of what he did. And anyway there are enemies who would have moved anyway, even if Tywin had been alive, and his death was just an unexpected stroke of luck for them.

@pushista9322 7 месяцев назад

@@lpallad1 GRRM doesn't have the concept of karma in his books.

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

@@pushista9322 I would say yes. After all, Joffrey died after everything he did, and having deluded himself into thinking he was invincible and unpunished. Then Martin himself said that actions have consequences, regardless of whether the people who perform them are good or bad.

@wade_west 8 месяцев назад

Tywin is my fav character in the series, even the books. Love to hate em and his brothers Kevin is even worse when you think about it. 😭

@masculean9855 8 месяцев назад

Wishing you luck for the channel. I hope to see more videos like this one. To me there is some resemblance of Julius Ceaser but Tywin from the series kind of looks like Niccolo.

@Baranina123 8 месяцев назад

If you like Tywin Lannister/ Charles Dance (like I do) and you like House of the Cards, you should watch House of cards... UK version from 1991. Ian Richardson british actor, play very well his role.

@asmrmetalman1061 2 месяца назад

People often leave out the last part of Machiavelli’s quote ‘but never hated’ The subtleties and nuances of ‘the prince’ are often lost on people, like for example Machiavelli believed that the common people were much more honest in their motivations and thus were a more reliable support base for a ruler.

@gokhantoksoy2826 7 месяцев назад

first time i see someone uses music in a fun and useful way.

@augmenautus 8 месяцев назад

When I was young, I bought the hand of the king pin to be like Tyrion, but the older I get, the more I identify with Tywin.

@burnedbread4691 21 день назад

Machiavelli, historically, was not a proponent of what we now call "machiavellianism". His writings are a critique to show how cutthroat tactics lead bad people to rise to powet while the virtuous shoot themselves in the leg. His solution is not ruthlessness but a calculated politics based on virtue and understanding of intrigue

@ZyGotham38 5 месяцев назад

One of the best written TV villains

@dyscalculic 8 месяцев назад

I don't get if Tywin was that ruthless and his current children were "disappointing". Why did he never remarry and make more potential heirs?

@RANDALCOMING 8 месяцев назад

Line of succession

@aaad3552 8 месяцев назад

u should never have childrean i am serious.

@coplord2762 7 месяцев назад

@@aaad3552neither should you lol you can’t even spell children correctly

@SJB2000 7 месяцев назад

One thing to note is once the dirty deed was done you never really heard him bring it up again or relish in it. He wasn't Joffery who visibly enjoyed someone else's shame or torment. Tywin knew what he had to do and no matter the cost it was going to be done and afterwards he marched on to the next obstacle. I dare say he wanted to build this sort of Lannister Roman Empire and spread his influence across the entire continent. Even in kingdoms like the north whose people he had just slaughtered, he was willing to have Tyrion rape the heir to Winterfell if it meant a half Lannister would rule there one day.

@lpallad1 5 месяцев назад

Yeah. Tywin doesn't look at anyone and has no problem hurting everybody to get what he wants, and he considers everything that is immoral and wrong in the world as universal rules of life.

@seto_kaiba_ 2 месяца назад

Lannisters always gave me Roman vibes. lol.

@emirhangurel5495 8 месяцев назад

interesting perspective

@morgoth4962 8 месяцев назад

greatt analysiss

@TheBusbyBabes 2 месяца назад

Tywins main problem with tyrion was that he wasnt his son but the mad kings. Wheither its true or not doesnt matter but tywin himself makes clear often enough that he believes it to be true

@lukeangell8357 4 месяца назад

It seemed he definitely overcompensated in his mind for his weak farther, but being wardon of the west, and the richest man in the seven kingdoms, meant he knew he could get away with being as ruthless as he wanted without any repercussions.

@adamgonzales4188 8 месяцев назад

Tywin biggest mistake is not killing tyrion as an infant think about it he raised something he disgraced if tywin was machavielian he would drown the dwarf and raise the twins as a single father where they wouldn't end up as incest lovers

@lpallad1 6 месяцев назад

If he had killed Tyrion as an infant the Lannisters would have lost the Battle of the Blackwater. having always been cruel to him and not recognizing his merits or helping him develop his potential was his fatal mistake. And then Tywin did other things wrong, having acted with apathy, superficiality, and not thinking about the unexpected and long-term consequences of his actions.

@fightingmedialounge519 8 месяцев назад

He lost a handful of times. Particularly when came to his kids.

@akshatgirdhar7075 8 месяцев назад

Please can anyone tell me what is this font? 0:21

@TimesFM4532 8 месяцев назад

I want to know how he’d have dealt with Joffrey. He would have relised he was building his legacy on Joffrey who would be hard to control after Tywin died and likely triggered revolt. I wonder if he’d have had him killed or forced him to take the black to have Tommon crowned who could be made into “good” in the sense effective king

@somepersianguy9545 8 месяцев назад

What is the background song?!

@billyjohnson1977 3 месяца назад

I think Charles Dance did a masterful job. As did the rest of the cast. Gleeson the boy that played Joffrey, amazing performance, simply outstanding. And Lena Heady. You want mean, she did mean true justice. Next to the Spartacus series this is on the top of my list.

@ivanhunter6492 8 месяцев назад

Imagine tywin on the Iron Throne

@Cacan-xx2pb 8 месяцев назад

crazyyy

@abdullahkuzhan7247 8 месяцев назад

You don't have to imagine. He practically did for 3 whole seasons. Joffrey wasn't really the one in control, certainly not Tommen, only after Tywin died.

@georgeprchal3924 8 месяцев назад

Tywin: With Stannis as hand... Tyrion: How did I end up as Master of Coin again?!

@rogerreyne1877 8 месяцев назад

bountiful years of unparalleled prosperity and stability, yeah, a sight to behold.

@sahilhossian8212 7 дней назад

Lore of Tywin Lannister: Machiavellianism, Perception & Power momentum 100

@franlpk9587 8 месяцев назад

I wish my country had a Tywin Lannister as president

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

You should not. Tywin wouldn't really bring peace and justice. He would establish a fascist and totalitarian regime where his family is in control of everything, where any abuse of power goes unpunished, and where freedom is just an illusion.

@fernandoalvarez9613 8 месяцев назад

The only person he underestimated was Tyrion.

@stevenmartinezgarcia9829 8 месяцев назад

his only flaw was pooping with the door unlocked.😂

@SR-hz8rp Месяц назад

While indeed Tywin had a good mind for strategy and knew to manipulate the politics of Westeros, it would be amiss not to mention how flawed and corrupt he was as a character, which reflects on his legacy. He places his family's name at the top of his list of priorities, yet he does not care for them. In the end his legacy dies with him because of his Machiavellianism and his ruthless and cruel nature, as his own son kills him for the hatred that Tywin has let fester between them.

@williamkline7922 6 месяцев назад

I think Machiavelli is a little mythologized as a sociopathic political thinker. He was a republican (small r) and makes a point of saying that it is beneficial for a prince to be feared but should avoid being hated. Fear brings compliance while hatred brings revenge.

@lpallad1 5 месяцев назад

Exact. Tywin never understood the difference between fear and hate.

@ToquzOghuzKhaganatekhan 7 месяцев назад

My word is my word ! You either obey it or there is a door !

@johnsolo1439 8 месяцев назад

The Lannisters send their regards

@MrJpc1234 8 месяцев назад

3:02 You CANT read the full machiavelli quote and then STILL go with interpertation that it is always better to rule with fear...machiavelli was saying you need both

@ValaritasYT 8 месяцев назад

3:21

@MrJpc1234 8 месяцев назад

@@ValaritasYT Ah apologies I see it so much a jumped the gun

@lpallad1 7 месяцев назад

@@ValaritasYT However, Machiavelli also said that one can be feared even without being hated, that there is a difference between being feared and being hated, and that a true prince must not make himself hated. Tywin on the other hand has make accumulate a lot of hate under the rug with some of his actions, hate that it exploded with his death.