Me too! What an awesome way to test a car’s performance...any other day this could have been a close one just comparing straight line performance. To me a well rounded car is the better choice
You fine folks are CRUSHING it with this new video format. Some of the most exciting comparison videos out there. Seriously. Whoever thought this up deserves a raise.
Seriously, how much do organizations like edmunds pay you twittering dweebs to help them CRUSH it (whatever 'it' was to begin with) and be so damned exciting with their comparison videos (so as they are)?
M-N, M performance-N performance, M Town-N village. Hyundai Motor is copying the bmw M like a fake Chinese car in an insignificant way, using Albert Biermann as a shield.🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
as a fan boy myself, subaru has been shooting themselves in the foot for the past couple years. Completely new designs but the engineering has really become quite mediocre
Hyundai definitely benefited from the guy that came over from BMW. I'm a Ford guy but I'm getting my elantra N in a month. First ever non Ford I will have owned
@@George-qw8ss ive been Chevy for so long. Just picked up a 22 WRX. But I’ll be going up mountains and such, so the choice was clear for me. Needed something fun on and off the road
M-N, M performance-N performance, M Town-N village. Hyundai Motor is copying the bmw M like a fake Chinese car in an insignificant way, using Albert Biermann as a shield.🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
I had decided last year I wanted to get a WRX, until I saw the new version and started really researching the best option for a manual compact sport sedan. I took delivery of an Elantra N two days ago. I'm glad this test didn't go the other way.
I work at a Hyundai dealership and we got one in and my co worker bought it right away and I was absolutely shocked at how Hyundais n division made a regular old Elantra into a fun powerful sports sedan. Also we got a Kona N in and that made me realize that Hyundai wasn’t screwing around with these cars but I was also overly impressed with how quick but very practical it was.
Hyundai was screwing around for the last ten years, so they could sit back and do what they do best: wait for all the others to invent and design everything, then reverse-engineer their way to success. They don't get credit for creating a true driver's machine. They get credit for monkey see, monkey do. They should change it to be the 'M' line.
@@thesorrow619 Good luck with any major warranty claims. Both available transmissions were developed in-house by Hyundai. You won't notice many shortcomings, so long as you plan to drive it like a grandpa. But when problems start to develop that they are unable to cure in two or fewer service visits, they will simply brush you off. They replaced two major components of my drive train on my vehicle (their 6-speed manual crap box and the propeller shaft) that had fewer than 4,500 miles on it. I bought it brand-new. Their favorite phrase is "Working to design and intent" when the ugly flaws reveal themselves. That's how I was treated. Even after I engaged the help from the consumer defender from Channel Two in Houston, Hyundai stood by their remarks. Despite having assessments from ASE Certified mechanics to back it all up, Hyundai North America completely ignored the evidence and refused to service my car under warranty any further for the issues I was having. There were others with similar experiences. So go ahead and grab one of those cars. They'll be changing the body style so radically in two model years, that you'll get to experience the feeling of owning the 'previous generation' model very quickly.
@@7t7o7 well I’m a Hyundai tech, so If I need to make a warranty claim, I’ll make sure I get it. and i ordered the manual transmission instead of their shitty automatic dual clutch so I’ll last longer
I got the dct version and it’s faster than the manual I Put bus lengths on. Newer wrx and I had full tank gas. And 2 passengers This was from 60 mph to 140. This car is. Stock. And it blow me away. I’m very happy Can’t complain. Dct is. Way to go.
This video showcased how the driver makes all the difference. He roasted the N off the line in the WRX. And then he roasted the WRX off the line in the N with only FWD.
@@jacobdicicco2044 yes but the N won by a MUCH larger margin in the second race. And in the first race the WRX flew past the Elantra at launch. Second race, FWD N stayed right with it. And murdered the WRX buy a huge and much larger margin than in the first race. Just showcasing that even though the N is a far superior driver's car, the driver also makes a difference, even if the N will take it every time. Planning on getting one myself soon as I sell my mk7 R
@@motormusique -LOOKS: It is staggering how much better this car looks in person. I'm not entirely sure why it doesn't photograph that well, but in person it makes an impression even just sitting there. It's aggressive without being overly showy. All the salesmen were drooling over it, and before I arrived, they turned down a few customers wanting to test drive it since I already had a deposit down. -INTERIOR: Sit in the driver's seat and it's obvious that this is a driver's car. The entire cockpit is oriented on you as the driver, everything in very convenient reach, and it feels like the entire thing is hugging you and holding you in. Very aggressive bolsters on the seats, which work great for keeping you secure in the twists. I'm a big guy and still found it comfortable. The infotainment is very responsive and intuitive, and there are so many options to explore and play with. Even the little things like the light-up seats and the changeable ambient lighting are fun and contribute to the whole feel of sitting in the car. Everything feels quality, too, nothing loose or rattling. -DRIVING: Of course, this is where the car really proves itself. Even Eco mode feels nice and is perfectly comfortable and capable on the highway. Then, with every successive driving mode you feel the car come alive a little more, until you hit N mode and it just wants to GO. You can feel the car wanting to speed up, and in the turns it actively claws at the ground to pull you out of corners. Even just highway driving, you can easily find yourself cruising 20MPH faster than you thought you were. This car feels absolutely rock solid and it responds to whatever you ask for, going exactly where you ask it to go with speed and precision. It actually reminds me of driving a little-brother version of my buddy's M3, which I guess isn't a surprise given the pedigree behind N design. If there were no badges, you could easily believe this is a German car. I'm also baffled by certain reviews that say the suspension is too stiff and gets uncomfortable, as I found it the perfect balance of comfort and connection to the road. I took my 65-year-old mother for a drive and unprompted she actually commented how good it felt. ODDITIES: The cupholders are a bit weird. Center armrest storage space could be bigger. Seat adjustor bar is a bit hard to reach. So far, just minor little things that don't ultimately matter that much. OVERALL: It's as good as they say it is.
I have a Veloster N DCT, I know everyone loves a manual but the dual clutch in these N models are absolutely insane. I absolutely love them. Highly highly recommend hyundai N
Kind of like the GTI’s/Golf R. These cars are meant to be fun DAILY’s, and they will never be sports cars or weekend toys, so I think the superior autos are actually better for the cars’ purposes. My Camaro on the other hand, I would never get in auto lol (it actually didn’t even have an option for auto)
@@shiberino8413 i dont know, when looking into Hyundai's N models, they actually want these cars to be played with. I looked through warrenties and asked around. They actually cover damages to internals such as the engine, transmission, dual clutch, etc if you take them to the track or "street race" lol
@@shiberino8413 I even heard about one instance where a guy had a manual Veloster N and money shifted it on the highway and they fully warrentied the replacement of his engine and transmission.
Not just quick stock, the new turbo inlet on the N's makes easy 340 of a map and pretty easy 390 to 400 with supporting mods and stage 2 map! Add a dct to the N and that scobby needs a good 450bhp to stand a chance and even then I feel the dct would make the difference. Things have changed a lot in the last decade!! As a Scooby owner for many years I'd never ever believed all this if you'd told me this just a few years back! Seriously considering an i30N here in the UK. Great vid btw, best drag format around currently.
Honestly I’ve known about edmunds for 15ish years and have never gone to the site or thought about it. But this format of testing has sold me on your channel haha. It is informative, fun and makes me want to have local drag strips try and implement this if possible because I want to race this locally. Please keep up this series, new cars are awesome but for some longevity and nostalgia please try and find classic rivals of the 90s and 2000s to do this race in both stock and modded versions if possible!
This sold you? The wrx had a killed launch the first run but the second time got beat off the launch. That should not happen. The wrx should win the launch against the elantra every single time without a question. It has way more traction.
Performance Blue 6-spd on the ground yesterday. Everything I hoped for and more. 53 year old long time sport-compact Gti, WRX,ST, RS, owner......nobody is building anything like this anymore.
Well this just completely validates my purchase of a new Elantra N (called Sedan N here in Australia). I’ve always been a Subie fan and owned 2 Subarus over the years. I’ve always driven manuals but I just bought the Sedan N in auto and I couldn’t be happier! The Rexy has a cult following but Subaru didn’t do enough to get my business on this occasion. I would love to see the same race done with the Elantra N DCT! It’s even faster 😎
FINALLY, I'm seeing some "Elantra N versus _____" videos... I want more of these! I think it's pretty exciting that Hyundai has entered the scene that's normally dominated by Subaru, Volkswagen, and Honda. More compare/contrast stuff that includes the Elantra N, please!
I still think the N would fare well against the GR86. Torque curve was vastly improved on the GR86 but the 86 was never about power. N is basically a muscle car compared to the GR86.
Elantra N would shred the GR86 in a drag context, even with the turn. There's just too much of a power difference (at least the 86 won't have the WRX's boost lag, hahaha) That said, would be great to compare the handling as the 86 is amazing in that dept. (coming from a Subaru-bleeding happy BRZ owner)
Hyundai is killing it these days and Subaru is just getting killed. Hyundai is doing everything right with the N line and they are on my short list to replace our 2014 WRX. I don't know WTF Subaru is thinking. The 2022 WRX was a total let down on performance and looks. Some of the choices they made (you can only get the adjustable suspension and nice seats on a CVT???) are just insane. "Don't worry, just wait for the STi...." Lol. How did that work out?
its brilliant but inconsistent. The WRX driver looked like he thought the race was over after the drag race but then remembered it was a u-turn race. You can tell since he slowed down. Regardless, the Elantra definitely has the better steering, but in a drag race , the AWD from the WRX would win it the drag race.
A single WRX got into the Nurburgring and completed. Multiple Elantras from multiple teams went into the Nurburgring and 2 of them fell apart before the day was up.
@@layne4376 I never had that issue with hyundai. Turbo sensor kept bringing the check engine light on took it to the dealer 3 different times last time I took it it had 88k. I've had my elantra sport coming up in the 5th year it has 140k 1.6t 6 speed. Original clutch. Car is a blessing.
@@layne4376 "Yawn" because despite how eager you were previously writing those long comments, being refuted with logic and common sense leaves you with no option for retaliation.
I'd be pretty upset to lose to a Hyundai, but the N is legit. That what Subaru gets for just minor improvements over the years, while other companies push it.
A subaru on pavement is Michael Jordan playing baseball. Too many have been made a pavement Princess though, why people expect them to hang in these sorts of tests
I LOVE mine. Got mine in the performance blue and it’s such a beauty. It launches so smoothly, handles amazingly and feels so nice overall. Best car purchase I have ever made.
Saw one being dropped off and they look better in person then in videos . Love to see Hyundai push the envelope and make these other car companies work. Thanks b man!!
Bought a '02 WRX wagon new and kept it 17 years. Dropped the clutch two times. Once in heavy rain just to see what it would do. Second time, pulling out on a blind corner only to discover a car was coming. REALLY, wanted the new WRX to be my new car. Can't get passed the plastic cladding & 3 hp increase. Drove a Kona N, liked a lot of things but no manual. Elantra may be it
I have a 2014 WRX (my first ever) and overall it’s a fun car, but I wouldn’t call it fast. It’s punchy and on a twisty road a lot of fun, plus I love the look of it. However after thinking about it, I wouldn’t buy another WRX due to the fact they aren’t actually that quick or powerful. Case in point I didn’t realise an i30N has more power than my WRX. It’s quite sad that Subaru don’t seem to want to make more power out of the engine. A modern 4 cylinder sports car should be making at least 300HP now in 2022, com’on Subaru.
Right there with you I’ve had my for 7 months and already had to put a new engine in the car I won’t ever buy other wrx they are money pits think my next option in a civic type R 😈
Damn that sucks you had to put a new engine in! Funny you mention the Type-R, because I had the chance to buy a 2018 Type-R in 2019 for about $48,000AUD but didn’t want to spend that much at the time. Thanks to Covid they are worth about $55,000AUD now. The one that got away.
Subarus are made to be modded. How many car company's do warranty work on catless tuned cars? Subaru does. There are limits to that but they are known for it. Subaru isn't about being fast. It's about becoming fast. Subaru and dodge are the last 2 companies that make cars for real motorheads. Though there will be no sti 2022 model year so this may be an end to a jdm era like the evo a sad day for the manual transmission and boxer engine.
Same here! I have a 2013 hatchback, when i heard they got rid of hatchbacks i was pissed because that is all i like. Then next gens had pathetic power increase. Then i started getting sick of how much gas it consumes especially having to use premium is too much. I am currently looking for other brands.
@@CharacterZero89 That's the issue. One shouldn't have to modify their car to make it fast, it should be able to compete with other brands out of the box. Modding takes a lot of time and effort which most people don't have. Also here in Australia Hyundai N cars are the ONLY cars that you can take on a race track without voiding the manufacturers warranty.
Hmm as a driver of a WRX sti I believe that the driving style of both drivers are not driving an all wheel drive car as it should be. Chris Atkinson explains how to drive all wheel drive WRXs. When turning into a corner you dont power through the corner in an all wheel drive, you need to let the car cruise through the corner then once your out of the corner thats where you apply more power.
You mentioned the equipment was working the 2nd race, so why no performance numbers (0-60, 1/4 mile, cornering G) like previous U-Drags? I love the format, but it is far better, when you give the subjective numbers in addition to the objective driver reviews. Keep up the good work.
I have just over 1200 miles on my N. Love it. I have had 3 wrxs and a mustang. By far this is my favorite car. When that boost kicks in it is so much fun. Also round a bouts are so much fun. Insane how that car eats turns. The more gas you give it the faster the inner wheel goes to keep you in the turn.
I always see everyone turning on Sport Mode or Performance Mode for all the other cars when comparing them to a WRX but I never see anyone put the WRX into Trac Mode by pressing and holding the traction control down for a few seconds. This is supposed to help with the power distribution to the wheels because it locks the differential and doesn't cut power. I'm just curious why no one does this for any of these tests against a WRX?
Yes I understand that, I also have a manual WRX but you're not understanding is turning off tracking control does not affect the power on the manual boxes... You actually don't even understand your own car.. the differential does not lock. It's an open diff on the WRX. Traction control is controlled with the rear brakes.. open differential is in the middle.. only the STI has locking differentials
in the second run the WRX didn't "struggle" to get going; the driver struggled to launch it well. I'm not trying to make excuses for the car, a loss is a loss, and I think the N really is better overall. But lets be real here lol, the WRX should ALWAYS win off the line in this match up
This is a really novel drag layout. Surprised this wasn't thought of sooner, or more popular. Hopefully others will take "inspiration" from this. These races shows a lot about the car, then just a quarter mile down some stretch of road.
Pick up my N in 2 weeks. Even though the manual is a hair slower, I had to go 6spd. Save the stick shifts! I just can't figure out why only the DCTs get a sunroof
That's awesome, congrats. To answer your question, it's because Hyundai figures if you choose the manual, then you are more than likely someone that really cares about performance and wants the most structurally rigid and lightest car for handling on a track for example. A sunroof adds weight where you really don't want it, and disrupts the center of gravity. That said though, it would be really missed on the street. It should at least be a stand alone option imo, for the one's that will never make it to a track.
I ran a 2020 STi in my 2017 Elantra Sport 6 speed on the highway, his was stock and I had an upgraded hot intercooler pipe, intake, and a piggyback ECU. Even with ~60ish less hp I had no problem walking away at highway speeds. Hyundai is and has been making strides where other former “enthusiast” brands are disappointing. Sold it for more than I paid when the car market got hot last year. Miss it, but I don’t miss the tickets and points on my license.
Nope it’s because the new FA24 has a 2.4 instead of our 2.0’s so the displacement makes up for the boost. Basically giving you the same power but less stress on the turbo.
The 2022 WRX has a new engine with more displacement (2.4L instead of 2.0L) which means they can make the same power as the old one with less boost. This improves long-term durability and throttle responsiveness. The new engine apparently knocks way less than the old one as well, another advantage of using less boost.
Any reason why you aren't pushing around the corner harder? I ask because with traction control off, you could almost drift around the turn in the WRX and gain a lot more space on the N.
As a 19 STI owner i would say sunset of building sport cars for subaru is close.... Its just sad to see where other auto makers reach past decades and subaru still punching 5 to 10hp more on powerplants .... With STI been canceled i m almost positive Subaru is on the road to be a SUV only production after 2030 ....
I am gonna be biased here because I own a 02' WRX but a stock WRX is not a drag race car. Its suspension has to be able to handle on road and off road. The aftermarket has a ton of parts for drag racing or road racing if that is your jam. If you had driven off the smooth surface of that runway you would see the other personality of that WRX that the Elantra N could not touch.
That 200lbs. Doesn’t matter I got the dct version I was on hwy had full tank gas and 2 passengers. In my car. Went from 60 mph to 140. And I gapped a newer wrx. Bus lengths. This car is impressive I can’t complain. Or find one thing I don’t like about the car I’m just blown away specially from a damn Hyundai.
@@Mmb0927 I think it's the 3rd time you talk about the "full tank of gas and 2 passengers"...we know ! Thanks. (just pulling your leg...don't get mad !) LOL
I don't think anyone driving in the snow / back roads would prefer the the haundai over WRX despite this U drag race results. I also wonder if they disabled traction control on the WRX?
Both cars are awesome. Hyundai has put a lot of money towards research & development, Subaru just took the engine out of a Subaru Accent & stopped here
Hyundai has been doing big things. I've had my 13 Genesis coupe 3.8 since release and it's been really good, and I was thinking of buying the Veloster N, but this damn Elantra N is stout also. I'm waiting for these overly high marked up car prices to hopefully drop, then I'll decide. Kudos to Hyundai