U.S. and China: Edging Toward the Brink? 

Sounds like two American War Mongers vs Two Chinese Peace makers, explaining the situation.

In the heads of the Americans:- "As Americans, we could do that and that. But it does not mean Americans would allow other nations such as China to do the same. " They said Chinese are rapidly building up their military power.....Obviously he has not spent time to check the total military spending of the two countries in the last ten years. A nation with 300 bases surrounding another nation expects that nation to refrain from military spending. No wonder that there are conflicts.

Keyu stated that young Chinese are highly influenced by Western culture. That’s true. If you visit Chinese cities, Starbucks and McDonalds are flourishing, Shanghai Disney is packed with people. But these young people are not naturally will be friends of US politicians as one panelist expected. Many of these young people do not like CPC, which is natural when there are so many restrictions. But, when they break out of the Great FIre Wall and find out so many misinterpretations and distortions of the facts on China, most of them gradually become strong supporters of CPC. Irony…

Yeah China is building up its capabilities because it is being surrounded by 300 US bases in the Pacific. Google search is free.

Enough of the century of humiliation. Enough of bullies.

China does not need the USA market but the basic Americans need cheaper Chinese Goods!

I wish Kishore Mahbubani was in this panel. So tell these two Americans their reality. Every American question is answered with facts. Only Kishore Mahbubani sir tells Americans their real times. Next time when discussing the subject of China and America. So Kishore said to Mahbubani Sir. These two Americans will know.😅😅😅

2 Economist vs 2 Warmongers

Afghanistan was not a war game. It was war. America lost.

So strange listening to these adults that apparently represents their countries views yet it’s like school kids arguing about who is friends with who who said what to whom and who is to blame for what! Can’t we please for god sake have grownups at last in humanity? Seeing that we apparently evolve and we have so many with so much education? Humanity is sick and tired of warmongering

General MacArthur underestimated the Chinese in the Korean war. Looks like history will repeat itself

I've noticed the trend of think tanks talking about china and it's flaws. Nothing about itself at all.

The Chinese and Russians leaders are successful in improving there country economy, so why you are moaning

Looks like the other side is just too obsessed with the Chinese leader, not all the good things he/government had done and still doing.

what is the point of having these conversations? not informative at all

What the girl said was most close to reality. I talked to a lot of Chinese people and what they told me mostly corroborate what she said. Much more US Chines students return to China these days than before. I had a lunch with a recently immigrated Chines couple (via investment so you know they are wealthy). What they said was exactly as the girl said, they applied for immigration to the US during covid restriction time, if it was now, they would not do it. And probably they would return to China after hanging out here a little bit. Main thing is they could not find anything to do here. The guy on the right is a joke. typical no substance but only hot air type.

Anywhere in the world, if there is a border dispute, it is usually the result of a line drawn by an Englishman; if it is an internal dispute, it is usually the US fueling it. Difference in implementation of divide and conquer strategy. The 'Arsenal of Democracy' produces 40 percent of the world's weapons. It is a very profitable business model in which other countries buy these weapons to fight each other. The key is maximizing profits without shedding US blood by inducing conflicts between and within countries outside the USA. One client is eager to spend AUD 368 billion to buy a few high-quality used nuclear-powered submarines. This business model's critical components are NATO, QUAD, ANZUS, Five Eyes, AUKUS, and MCC (Mutual Cross-Service Agreement). The US makes the rules, and the US and their friends do not have to follow them. Since WWII, the United States has started 201 wars, overthrew 36 foreign leaders, killed or attempted to kill 50, dropped bombs in 30 countries, and interfered in 86 foreign elections. To make the world safe for democracy, the US has caused the deaths of tens of millions of people in its conflicts in Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. The CIA was involved in covert operations that resulted in mass killings of communists in over 22 countries, 500,000 to 2,000,000 Indonesian civilians disappeared in 1965-1966.

What makes the host have the right to tell others how to live and conduct themselves publically.

This guy just refuses to listen to other's point: that Gentleman said very clear every US technology went to China was approved and executed by US Companies themselves. This technology for Access is just like the extra high price everyone paid to US technology: price for Goods. There is no "Steal" here and those CEOs are not stupid. They earned huge profits from outdated technologies, sometime several generation/decades old. By the way, this Technology vs Access is the game all Developing Countries play all the time.

Let's talk about national security instead of attacking China

Kurt Campbell said chinese student should study humianity and social science only. Tom Cotton said Chinese student should study Sharkspear only. I have to say those americans lost their minds, became dilusional.

china respects international org, ask phillipines about it :)

For calling the whole Country CCP doesn't make sense or it's showing that the Westerners still racist about other Countries's eternal issues

Keyu Jin's days of being able to travel to the US are numbered.

Matt is a disappointing Chinese hawk. Kept quoting Congress as his basis when the American congress are the root cause of the world's problem. He can run for congress. To even quote Pompey shows his competency when the world know Pompey is a liar and he openly admited.

As of 2024, the United States maintains an estimated total of approximately 5,044 nuclear warheads. This includes around 1,770 deployed warheads, 1,938 reserved for operational forces, and an additional 1,336 retired warheads awaiting dismantlement . In contrast, China has approximately 500 nuclear warheads. While the exact number of deployed warheads is less clear. Really America is the pot calling the kettle black.

I had a preprint which address this problem. The root cause is philosophical. I quote one passage from a book "A band of heavily armed thugs could take over a territory and establish by force procedures for exploiting its inhabitants. … Since it is easy to make ethical claims without doing anything to substantiate them if you are powerful enough, it is unlikely that my thugs would not engage in the process of rationalizing their oppression. So, it may well be difficult to identify the genuine article. Such hypocrisy, however, is, …, the tribute that vice pays to virtue. Also, words have consequences: some people may believe them and start acting as though they were true. " John Charvet, Liberalism p.110. You can never understand CCP unless you understand the above.

if money turned out to be the key factor, then it is not democracy

Guys country economy is like a football league , it is time for china and Russia to lead the world

It's obvious who is moving towards the other.... Crossing an ocean to provoke...

The 2 Americans in the panel are certainly out of the league. Their understanding of China is appalling and what they actually knew were so outdated. Enough said!

Zero percent facts Only arrogant double standard people 😂

American days are over

Of course each side is doing propaganda, but still there is the fact of justice! Invasion is evil, persecution is evil, suppression is evil, hegemony is evil!

It’s hard to talk to a guy like Matt Pottinger when every other sentence is a lie

Being sick of Anglo-Saxon lies

Misinterpretation of China will lead to miscalculation that will lead to the possibility of conflict between China and U.S., especially in the issues of Taiwan and the South China Sea. 30:22

Those two American guys just BS... they're not same scholars as these two Chinese... they're not in the same level...

VOICE OF AMERICA IS WORSE THAN TIK TOK

Wow, do you think there are a few CCP accounts commenting on this video? Are we all going to be Harmonized? Is the Great Rejuvenation of the Chinese Nation soon to be realized?

Matthew Pottinger is a caricature, a pathetic political hack right out of Dr. Strangelove. I take comfort in the fact that he will be remembered poorly by history.

China and Russia in BRICS and their borders that’s why they have lots to meet about

there are two people who do not talk about what's wrong in their own country, what needs to be improved, they only talk about more war, repeat propaganda words.

Prof. Darqui Lee mentioned close China-Ukraine trade relationship, discrediting media expressions of Chinese military support of Russia, echoed by Matt Pottinger.

The US has no capability to fight China in Asia as it was proven in Afghanistan against the Taliban where the American troops pathetically ran away from the battlefield in the middle of the night 🤣🤣🤣

Don’t have to be. But USA liberal capitalism can’t just mind its own fucking business

So there is a Chinese plant in the audience...

I can't stand Ferguson. Reminds me of lord farquaad. His self importedness can fill the colosseum.

Where are the Chinese in this topic, when you're talking about yourself in this topic then don't mention the Chinese. What you need to know is, if Taiwan is not part of China then come and fight for it, but if you can't stand the Vietnam Afghanistan Somalia and now at this moment you said or we will not fight the Russian it will be bad for the world, today the power of Chinese is not what you know in Korea war what is it like today.

Chinese Experts: Nothing to see here, it’s all a big misunderstanding. USA Experts: The forest is on fire and we need more water.

Oh, Matt is exactly that frenetic hyperventilating self, this guy is so far down the rabbit hole paranoia if ever there’s one. Needs to see a psychiatrist with mental

Taiwan keeps coming up as an issue. The two war mongers lied that Xi's position has changed as Xi is more aggressive and impatient. These arguments were demolished as Xi's position was proven to be consistent since Deng's days in the 80's. Xi too said that it may take generations for peaceful integration and reunification. However, when asked the question whether US's policy and practice have changed. That question was deliberately side-stepped. Verbally, the US claims to abide by the 2-China policy, which recognises China as the sole government and Taiwan as its province. In practice, it has not abide by the policy by (1) arming Taiwan, (2) sending US officials to Taiwan, (3) stationing US marines on Taiwan and its Kinmen Islands 5 km away from China, (4) making provision to recognise Taiwan as an 'independent entity' in the 2022 Competes Act. Yet, when China reacts angrily to each of these infringements, it is said to be aggressive and ready to attack Taiwan. According to UN Charter, Taiwan is a province of China. The civil war was unfinished as the US's Seventh Fleet blocked the Chinese from crossing into Taiwan. Do you see how the two war mongers lied? The justification is always that Taiwan shoukd decide. Should China fund and arm the separatist movements in stolen Hawaii to decide on their independence? Military deterence is always given as the reason for US interference in Taiwan. Why not use dialogue instead of selliing more srms and weapons, with mediators acceptable to China and Taiwan to guarantee the peaceful status quo? Americans have been lied to create a situation for more war funding of the weapons industry.

China has stand up, America. Get used to it.

So good professional discussion.There is no doubt that universal values ​​will continue to win.

Why is it called the South China Sea ?that is the south China Sea, right ??I’m curious I don’t understand

Who has paid for the tariffs imposed by Trump? Obviously, Americans paid and are still suffering from the inflation caused by these tariffs.

In 2019 alone, Nato dropped 26,000 bombs on 7 Sovereign countries without UN sanctions, killing thousands and making millions of refugees. Was this done to further Democracy or human rights?

Why is USA so concern about human rights in China when most Chinese is doing better comparable to those in Africa, India and many other poor countries? USA must first sincerely exemplary resolve human rights and poverties in these poor countries first.

I think the men of the world has played too many war games online hence made them lick their lips for real war.

During the school year China has 290,000 military age students in the US studying at US colleges. Guess China figures that for them to go to Russia to study would be a waste of their time. It has been that way for the last 40 years. Any show down between either country is out of the question. What is likely to happen is that a third party will force both sides into a armed conflict by sinking either ones nations ships.

Answer: USA has gone off the deep end grieving the loss of its unipolar moment and could stumble into a war with China, Taiwan being the proximate cause if not the actual cause. Viewers should note that both the PRC and ROC constitution recognize the principle of One China and claim sovereignty for both the mainland and Taiwan province. China is a sovereign country with a right to maintain a defensive military. That Xi has set a target for readiness for a war over Taiwan in the face of US meddling is reasonable. Furthermore, China is the only nuclear armed nation with a no first use doctrine, while the USA is the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons (twice, in East Asia) and continues to maintain a nuclear first-use doctrine; in that context, what wouldn't China position itself for a position of strength on MAD? Edit to add: Niall Ferguson is still a pompous ass, it is comforting in a time of global instability to have that constant.

Great discussion

Lived in country for a decade is not the result for such show.

Tic tok must be banned

From opening remarks it is very clear "the empire hegemony is just never to be touched, I can do anything I like as the world belongs to me. I am the righteous, and so you are all my subjects"

Andrew and Matt have no idea what they were talking about. They don't have any concrete statistics. What their opinions are based on assumptions and ideologies instead of facts. They performed so badly like naive high school students. Is that the intelligence level they can achieve?

Trade with China should be 50/50 even split. No trade deficit. Source the balance from others.

Be true and conscientious, and stick to the principle of justice.

the problem between US and China is structral conflict. it is waste of time to argue with each other. Chinese officials and US officials understand about this. so much less communication right now. the peace between thess two is because of MAD.

What a joke. Even if you said it so nice and beautiful, your great leader will still not appreciate it😂

We already were decades ago …

For context, everybody needs to remember that Taiwan is officially recognised by the US and virtually every country in the world as a province of China.

Xi talking about chaos was chaos created by western governments he referred to

Honestly, China needs a Chinese Julius Malema because I’m sick of these China hawks!!! They think they can jus say anything they want.

If the china crisis hype is gone, what could these hawks do? lost their jobs...

I think this guy from naval academy talked about Chinese people not being able to express their opinion on their government and the US policy but how many Chinese people has he spoken to in reaching this conclusion. What I see from this guy is pure warmongering which is hardly surprising giving this type of guy have their livelihood depending on the country going to war and having military complex filling their bottom pocket. Talking about the Chinese population but does he know Chinese population is 4 time of that of the US, its work force is about 4.5 times of that of the US, it has a highly skill worked force numbering almost 200 million ( which is about 1/7) of the population, comparing to about 27 million in the US. Well, it sounded pretty good if you agree with someone but you need to reach an agreement when you done your own study of the matter. This Peter Zeihan theory of Chinese declining work force never mentioned the real figure of labor force, what is also failed is the fact that for a country like India it will take at least another 30 years to have a work force of equal number to China. Another angle we can look at is the above 65 population currently both US and South Korea are with 16% of their population above that age bracket and China is at 14%, with Chinese population the median age is around the same as US at 38. Chinese people also has a retirement age of 60 for men and 50 for women that is about 7 years lower for men in the western world. When Pottinger said that it would be not expensive to deter China on Taiwan, then we must remember that this is the guy that said the US military spending needs to be around 50% higher than its current level, it actually reflect how contradictory his comment really is. Is another 450 billion dollars in the coffin of US not expensive? Consider this 450 million is around 10% of US budget revenue and almost 1/4 of the US federal deficit for the coming year. The other thing is about getting Japan to be the front soldier to fight with China, there are two things now with Japan, Japan is now one of the few countries with a declining economy for decades, Japan also has a population with median age of 50 that means almost half of its people is older than 50, in all seriousness does Pottinger actually expect a country that lost 0.8 million people per year with 37% of the population above 60 will fight a war for a foreign country. It does not take a politician to figure that out regardless how religious he or she is about the 'democracy'. As for the uighurs just which guy did naval academy guy spoke ? I mean if he is reading the archived file from state department then my question why is the US State Department not being brave enough to go to UK presenting their evidence on Chinese suppression of Uighurs, was it because they have low level of confidence on their evidence much like Covid which Pottinger lied about to cover up for his chlorine injecting Mr Trump, for his idiotic policy and lies on Covid.

US is the baddies

Aspen institute ??? Try ashpenin.

Don't get it why people including Jin the mouth of CCP in different occasions

48:18 this is also incorrect according to the cop there is 1.3 billion people. Making it the 2nd largest population in the world. Behind India.

44:51 that’s not true. According to the last shareholders meeting of TSLA they are losing market share because of the subsidies of byd and other Chinese car manufacturers.

16:37 what he says is, we don’t admit our wrong doings. Thats what he mean by DNA 😂😂😂

1:22:34 he is wrong. It’s 23 million people

It is amusing.

3 warfares strategy in action, pay attention.

😢🎉😂🎉❤.. 👉🏻👉🏼👉🏽 America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question... Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government) China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Iraq 1991 Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti 2004 * Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * 2014 - 2022 - 9 countries yet to verify. Pakistan 2022 * Haiti 2022 * Israel 2023

招募選拔過程已停止

the world largest developed country against the largest developing country: basically killer whale vs. panda

Tik tok can destroy us ? Wa, us is finish...

Chinese tell lies never face-changing 😂😂😂

Well, if the TMSC is so important to US and west, then take the TMSC to US (US already took actions on it) and give Taiwan back to China?

The hand gestures of the China team say something else. Excessive body language indicates degree of discomfort with one’s own words 😂😂😂 Jin is a brat, btw😂

In China, media plays a unifying role, not a divisive role. It's a different society, which stresses harmony rather than division. Protests are allowed as feedback and these are quickly responded to. The war mongers love to use the differences as reasons to distrust China and leave out the point that China wants peace to do trade and to build others up too.

Opposites attract

nukes

李稻葵讲话没有重点，反击也没有任何力量，不知道请他来的意义何在。KEYU JIN思维够敏捷，语言、思维习惯也比较中西结合，经常一语中的又不会显得过于富有攻击性，应该多发言。

They "respect history" so much, those who talk about their real history become history themselves.

Xi JinPig will have a hard time getting through the doorframe the next time he goes to Russia to meet his buddy.

They "respect history" so much, that talking about the history of Tiananmen Square will make you history.

According to Keyu, there is nothing wrong with Chinese govt whatsoever 🤷‍♂️