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Ultimate AOE Carry | Argenti CN Analysis 

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Complete Honkai: Star Rail guide for Argenti with reference from the CN Community. This video will thoroughly cover his trace priority, special mechanics, eidolons, relics, lightcones, and team compositions. He is very likely the best (elegant) AOE DPS we will have for a while, at least until 1.7 comes along. Argenti is an extremely potent hypercarry for AOE content like SU, Swarm, MOC, and Pure Fiction. Considering how Mihoyo is constantly raising the number of mobs, here is how you can learn how to make the best use of his kit such as getting the highest enhanced ultimate uptime to destroy your enemies!
Argenti Analysis: pokkelibrary.com/2023/12/06/a...
Argenti Team: • Argenti's ULTIMATE Dam...
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00:00 Intro
01:31 Character Kit
07:57 Helpful Tips
10:50 Eidolon Benefits
13:49 Energy Thresholds
17:37 Relic Builds
19:57 Lightcone Builds
22:14 Team Compositions
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CN Sources:
【银枝、寒鸦角色前瞻《崩坏星穹铁道》 新角色技能解析、适用场景预测、装备配队推荐】 www.bilibili.com/video/BV1mu4...
【【星穹铁道】1.5银枝的这几种配队,让你抽到即是最强物理核爆大C!银枝配队注意事项】 www.bilibili.com/video/BV1vH4...
【银枝攻略 优雅地告诉你,如何优雅地割草和攻坚 超全遗器 配队 流程 规划】 www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ge4...
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@spiderboy6413
@spiderboy6413 8 месяцев назад
the intro is getting out of control
@cktan523
@cktan523 8 месяцев назад
i rewatched that opening several times lol XD
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw 8 месяцев назад
His straight up "Delete that one guy" after killing everyone is very... ELEGANTO!
@kingcopium9143
@kingcopium9143 8 месяцев назад
With Jing Yuan getting buffed every patch, QQ being the goat, and the release of Argenti, Erudition is actually looking really good now.
@XvAstarisk
@XvAstarisk 8 месяцев назад
I like Destruction and Erudition since im sure this game's future will always have five-man enemies set up.
@floofzykitty5072
@floofzykitty5072 8 месяцев назад
You got Argenti's Technique wrong when you said "most of the time we will not be using Argenti's Technique to enter battle". It is like Sampo's Technique combined with Jingliu's one, you can use it then switch characters and still gain the benefit of it. You get full technique points in MoC, so you can use Technique once with everyone once and Tingyun's twice.
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
yeap my bad o7
@Ixruko
@Ixruko 8 месяцев назад
Finally, OURGENTI is here. Nice Guide as usual
@berrymilk337
@berrymilk337 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the analysis. I was hoping there would be a but of discussion about 2nd dps teammates for argenti. Putting himeko im his team with ting + hou looks fun for wave content
@kasparkannel3108
@kasparkannel3108 8 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure Lightning lords targeting also works the same as argentis extra hits, testing seems to support it
@anhcat-cw6hn
@anhcat-cw6hn 8 месяцев назад
Pokke just hates JY too much to care
@cursey7304
@cursey7304 8 месяцев назад
Nah, it still targets 0 HP enemies i think
@kasparkannel3108
@kasparkannel3108 8 месяцев назад
@@cursey7304 it doesn't, it's a bounce attack, people have tested it
@Steel12able
@Steel12able 8 месяцев назад
@@cursey7304 Nope
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
If it takes 2 ll stack to kill 1 mob because 1 stack isn’t enough, it’ll be overkill.
@zarialxss
@zarialxss 8 месяцев назад
was a doubter but im glad to see argenti enjoyers being able to play a good unit
@Sami-dy8lk
@Sami-dy8lk 8 месяцев назад
Bruh wtf are you talking about? This dude's straight up spreading misinfo . Do you have something against JY? JY's LL is a bounce attack which works the same way as Argenti. The LL strike does not target dead enemies.It's just the Blast dmg but it isn't a waste either.
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
how many times do you wanna spread misinfo here saying I have something against jingyuan when im just stating facts om
@Sami-dy8lk
@Sami-dy8lk 8 месяцев назад
@@mrpokkee This comment was made before that thread so stick to that since it has more context. You're just not comparing them in fair scenarios.You say this is an St comparison but then downplay JY's LL hit saying that it will hit some random mobs(It's supposed to be a st comparison why are mobs present?)And considering ST dmg is maximized without risking LL dmg to be split just for the adjacent dmg in a mobs present scenario,it's not fair. Then you do not consider ult+skill dmg dealt to the boss while considering Argenti's 1st dmg segment on the boss. JY's multipliers are more than enough to clear mobs so it does not matter a bit if his 2 skill+ult has a lil less dmg than Argenti's skill+1st dmg segment.Both of them can clear mobs efficiently. And if mobs are alive after the 1st dmg segment(By not critting,enemy sheilds,buffs running out) then the 2nd dmg segment would be split as well. Just present fair situations for both of them.Not a sub optimal situation for JY and an Optimal situation for Argenti which clearly looks like 2x standards from our POV.
@firelight3806
@firelight3806 8 месяцев назад
Argenti with enhanced 2* Hunt Blessing - Auspicious Star be like: "I've become Death, Destroyer of Worlds"
@afraidofwhatdonotbeafraid
@afraidofwhatdonotbeafraid 8 месяцев назад
Oh my fucking god at best its 2 ult back to back cause the first will obliterate the small fry and the second will decimate the midfry
@justincampbell1213
@justincampbell1213 8 месяцев назад
From a humble enjoyer of the free content - let the intro cook!
@keebla97
@keebla97 7 месяцев назад
aye Pokke this a crazy intro bro......music and all
@opughdyang8264
@opughdyang8264 8 месяцев назад
Dont forget that E4 is further buffed by E3 talent lv up by 2, increasing the critrate to 33.6% crit chance, which is basically one more substat worth of critrate, its not great but also not nothing.
@jeaha2656
@jeaha2656 8 месяцев назад
Thank you you help a lot
@nickarooroo6397
@nickarooroo6397 8 месяцев назад
idk what it is, but he might be the most satisfying character for me to play since Seele and Jing Yuan
@zacyu208
@zacyu208 8 месяцев назад
Was skeptical due how many content creators saying his bad before the release, but man! he’s so good! He delivers what Erudition are!
@Emmersu
@Emmersu 8 месяцев назад
10:30 Holy misinformation spread
@rdr.erased
@rdr.erased 8 месяцев назад
will we be getting a free linx on 1.6 or is the free ayaka type thing?
@Derektwgu
@Derektwgu 8 месяцев назад
Just wanna point out that Jingyuan LL works the same way as Argenti’s ult where if a unit dies in the middle of the attack, LL will no longer target the dead target as the center target.
@afraidofwhatdonotbeafraid
@afraidofwhatdonotbeafraid 8 месяцев назад
I thought LL still targets the dead one. All in all, argenti might be better than JY just because of the non RNG hit, everyone gets the same treatment
@afraidofwhatdonotbeafraid
@afraidofwhatdonotbeafraid 8 месяцев назад
oh my bad, the additional damage is still RNG
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
Copied from my other comment: lightning lord's targetting by itself is an oxymoron; he doesnt want adjacent targets as it reduces the chance of main target being hit by LL's main 66% multiplier, but he also wants adjacent targets so as to improve LL's total damage from 66% on a single target alone to now 66%x1.5, 660% vs 990% in the perfect world, LL always hits the center target, with splash damage + main damage coming out to 990%. in reality, this is impossible as it will only have a 1/3 chance of hitting the center target, resulting in damage wasteage as LL stacks aim adjacent targets, leading the main target to only receive 25% multiplier per stack. Argenti will never face this issue as its first hit is so strong that it easily wipes all mobs, leading the remaining 6 hits to focus with 0 wastage. no matter how you see it, Argenti's enhanced ultimate will outdamage lightning lord at every scenario, be it 1,3 or 5 targets. Hope this clarifies 🫡
@inazuma7792
@inazuma7792 8 месяцев назад
@@mrpokkee I think you are not good at math. 1. LL's max multiplier is 990%, not 1160%. 2. By the time LL hits, small enemies are dead just like Argenti's 1st segment of enhanced ult. 3. No one is arguing LL outdamage Argenti's enhanced ult. Argenti's enhanced ult: 280% (kill mobs) + 570% (random) = 850% total Jing Yuan's ult + LL: 200% (kill mobs) + 660%(random) = 860% total Are we clear?
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
@@inazuma7792 refer to other thread o7
@teriyakiHSR
@teriyakiHSR 8 месяцев назад
OURGENTI IS SO ELEGANTO!
@damien9683
@damien9683 8 месяцев назад
Im Rolling for Hanya, BUT after this video, I won't complain if I get him!
@insertnamehere1398
@insertnamehere1398 8 месяцев назад
argenti has his own solution to hsr having mostly blast or single target fights and I LOVE IT!
@bazukawars9354
@bazukawars9354 8 месяцев назад
What about 4pc thief set for 3 energy per break. I was thinking argenti with ERR rope, bronya, tingyun and huo huo with the shared feelings light cone. Wouldn’t that give enough energy for constant ult uptime?
@_Syraxes
@_Syraxes 8 месяцев назад
Help. My main team right now is Jing Yuan, Tingyun, Pela, Huohuo and my 2nd team DPS is Yanqing, is it worth to pull for Argenti? I'm struggling with 2 team content like MoC. My only other 5stars are Himeko, Welt, and Bronya. Any suggestions?
@an_evil_Imp
@an_evil_Imp 8 месяцев назад
Mr Pokke with another banger
@PizzaDaPasta
@PizzaDaPasta 8 месяцев назад
Guys i need help, ive got Jing yuam, seele, jing liu and kafka. Should i go gor argenti or save for ruan mei??
@cedricwong0
@cedricwong0 8 месяцев назад
When Argenti's energy is at 90 or less, is that considered below 50% for Quid Pro Quo? Or is it 45 or less?
@Homu25
@Homu25 8 месяцев назад
OURGENTI is ELEGANTO
@TheWanHui
@TheWanHui 8 месяцев назад
I got 2 in the same 10 pull. Thank you Hoyo for blessing my account with such Beauty
@ScientistA
@ScientistA 7 месяцев назад
if we run the standard team comp of huohuo hanya and tingyun, can we run ER rope as the atk buffs are stacking like mad without ATK% Rope already? can we also run ATK% boots in this case since Hanya can give speed buff to make sure he is always 140-150 speed without SPD boots with huohuo also giving ult charge to ensure Hanya's uptime is 100%
@tauktunkin7855
@tauktunkin7855 8 месяцев назад
Intro is real❤😂 Eleganto🎉
@Tikigaming
@Tikigaming 7 месяцев назад
Hey Mr.Pokke would you rather use S5 Make the World Clamor or S5 Seriousness of Breakfast for Argenti? Thanks for the content :)
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 7 месяцев назад
Make the World
@deramosjhestervanl9043
@deramosjhestervanl9043 8 месяцев назад
How does Glamoth perform vs Inert on him?
@pinkstarmona1695
@pinkstarmona1695 8 месяцев назад
He seems cool, but at this point between Jingliu, Topaz, and Kafka I have enough dps's for the moment besides maybe Dr. Ratio for the follow up attacks, though I want Ruan Mei more. Argenti seems super cool and fun though.
@Zharque
@Zharque 8 месяцев назад
Don't know how I did it but I managed to get E1S1 in 130 pulls while trying to get Hanya E2. Halfway through I decided to go all in on him and I can't say I regret it.
@Yoichiii14
@Yoichiii14 8 месяцев назад
ELEGANTO
@semivivusrex
@semivivusrex 8 месяцев назад
Hello, what do you think about W8 ornament? With Hanya he can make use of the 18% dmg bonus right?
@georgezhang1573
@georgezhang1573 8 месяцев назад
It’s still worse than salsotto since the 8% crit rate makes it much easier to run crit damage chest, and the difference between 8% crit rate and 12% atk is larger than the 3% damage difference. It mostly depends on which has better substats though.
@Divine-General-Mahoraga
@Divine-General-Mahoraga 8 месяцев назад
It likely comes down to substats
@pdballou
@pdballou 8 месяцев назад
As someone with Seele, HuoHuo, SilverWolf, Gepard, and e1 YQ as 5 stars, should I roll for Argenti as my 2nd DPS unit (to replace e1 YQ)?
@cocoapuff_x
@cocoapuff_x 7 месяцев назад
sure why not
@raymondoh49
@raymondoh49 8 месяцев назад
Intro was gold lol
@Yeewieer
@Yeewieer 8 месяцев назад
Serval (b4) lightcone it's increase ulti dmg only 1 time per battle ? Or permanently?
@Singleplayr
@Singleplayr 8 месяцев назад
Its perma
@chiiing8288
@chiiing8288 8 месяцев назад
no Pokke village theme today? also will you be doing Monster Hunter content once the new game comes out? (speculated to be next year)
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
Hopefully 🫡
@yourmissright7
@yourmissright7 8 месяцев назад
I had to pull for him lol but aside from Dan IL I didn't had any "DPS" dps and For sustain I already have Fu xuan , Geppie and I liked Hanya and new lynx sounded good. And He is Elegant I had to get him. Saving for him since his announcement. And got him at 63!! Time for a full physical comp lol
@mystical001
@mystical001 8 месяцев назад
OURGENTI
@trisaktiluhur7768
@trisaktiluhur7768 7 месяцев назад
Is it just me or does fu xuan actually has a cleansing ability and I don’t know about it?
@yennila6401
@yennila6401 8 месяцев назад
OURGENTI ELEGANTO
@tianyouzhang4301
@tianyouzhang4301 8 месяцев назад
Hey MrPokke I wanted to ask how does Argenti LC compare to JY LC for characters other than Argenti?
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
as long as they have followup, Before Dawn is better.
@tianyouzhang4301
@tianyouzhang4301 8 месяцев назад
thanks!
@omniboo1762
@omniboo1762 8 месяцев назад
how viable is the new firnament frontline planar set on him?
@aleksandar2046
@aleksandar2046 8 месяцев назад
His BiS planar set, but the other ones are SUPER close (sss, salsotto, rutilant)
@omniboo1762
@omniboo1762 8 месяцев назад
i thought it'd be good its just he didnt mention it in the planar section so i got a lil confused if i farmed for the wrong one or not 😅
@aleksandar2046
@aleksandar2046 8 месяцев назад
@@omniboo1762 don't worry about it. All four are within 1-2% of each other, virtually tied. If you got Argenti then I'm very jelly 😅😂
@masbethfvck5269
@masbethfvck5269 8 месяцев назад
why argenty not use planar Firmament Frontline Glamoth? it will give 12% attack and 18% damage increase (not just on ultimate) i know it will hard to catch 160 speed, but if we go party with hanya or asta, it will easy to get 160 speed right? #CMIIW
@PokaiJai7872
@PokaiJai7872 8 месяцев назад
Ourgenti
@penguins0301
@penguins0301 8 месяцев назад
Pls Hanya next. Out there too many builds but i can only truth this guy .
@MacellaioNero
@MacellaioNero 8 месяцев назад
@MrPokke Mr Pokke Sir, how come places like Prydwen have Today is Another Peaceful Day and even Himeko's S1 calc'd at higher than Before Dawn, does CN not like those options for some reason? (they have Peaceful Day calc'd barely 3% lower than Genti's S1)
@masbethfvck5269
@masbethfvck5269 8 месяцев назад
it is just my opinion, maybe in prydwen, they calculate all damage output in 3 or more turn, but in CN they calculate the biggest damage in 1 turn/ maybe in 1 action thats why in prydwen peacefull day get just 3% lower than argenti S1, because the damage bonus on argenty S1 just on his ultimate, but in peacefull day the damage is not just on ultimate
@masbethfvck5269
@masbethfvck5269 8 месяцев назад
and himeko S1 will give very big buff if the enemy is allways on 5 in every waves and got broken weakness in every turn too
@MacellaioNero
@MacellaioNero 8 месяцев назад
@@masbethfvck5269 Ye, it's all a bit strange, as far as I can see, all his S1 has over Peaceful Day is 1% DMG, 36% CD, and 50 base attack. It doesn't feel right that those add up to such a huge difference in final damage output. If he has a good crit ratio without S1, the value of that 36% CD also plummets. It looks kinda... bad, no? Prydwen's 3% difference seems more accurate than these CN numbers - but there must be some condition we're not seeing.
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 8 месяцев назад
​@@MacellaioNeroI doubt the CN did bad maths lol, probably different criteria and scenario
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
Different parameters, I can pull up a quick test finding myself in the future.
@wyvernmounir530
@wyvernmounir530 7 месяцев назад
Why u said diminution returns ?? In his E1 crit dmg isn't crit dmg the only stats that doesn't have diminution return since it's calculated after all buffs by (1+crit dmg %)
@prettyandrich
@prettyandrich 7 месяцев назад
not even considering glamoth 2p is an immense oversight, esp with his skill doing so much damage and the massive speed buffs stuff like hanya and e1 huohuo give.
@saddany3254
@saddany3254 8 месяцев назад
Bro forgot Glamoth planar set 💀
@ch1dd
@ch1dd 8 месяцев назад
I'm glad my S4 Clamor will get some love again since I only used it in the beginning of the game. Basically the same as signature's second effect, just lacking the free crit and some rarity stats. My geniuses' repose is S3, but if my attack stat is decent in the final build I'll prefer Clamor
@easonhew5738
@easonhew5738 8 месяцев назад
不敢相信银枝这么强😮👍
@donew1thita11
@donew1thita11 8 месяцев назад
Why so much quantum weakness needed lately in content
@tiasm919
@tiasm919 8 месяцев назад
10:32 can JingYuan's Main or anyone conform this ?
@zasshu.7240
@zasshu.7240 8 месяцев назад
Jing yuan also works the same way All bounce attacks work the same The only difference is just that, since Jing yuan's bounces also do blast damage, you can waste *some* damage since the game only checks if the main target is alive But his adjacent damage isn't even that high anyway
@keneunaegbu851
@keneunaegbu851 8 месяцев назад
The LL doesn't waste hits on enemies that are already dead, it will focus the main dmg on the enemies that are alive
@Sami-dy8lk
@Sami-dy8lk 8 месяцев назад
Nah he's spreading misinfo bruh
@tiasm919
@tiasm919 8 месяцев назад
@@zasshu.7240 ahh, okay2, got it, Thanks
@Omniverse544
@Omniverse544 8 месяцев назад
Ehh.. nope LL changes target after that target is dead otherwise LL won't be able delete mobs in mats farming.
@KahnJsu
@KahnJsu 7 месяцев назад
19:40 no , jy LL doesn't hit dead enemy, try it and look at blue thunder, it just hit boss not a dead enemy, so JY LL doesn't have loss damage. Just LL delay to next turn when JY CC ed make JY bad
@KahnJsu
@KahnJsu 7 месяцев назад
Sorry 10:28
@graelstream2353
@graelstream2353 8 месяцев назад
Can't wait for your Hanya analysis dude. I did finally get e6 Asta for the current banner but stopped wishing because I already have e1 S1 Jing Yuan built. I'm more interested on supporting our mid king haha. Btw is the currently lightcone for Argenti worth the pull or nah?
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
coming real soon :)
@graelstream2353
@graelstream2353 8 месяцев назад
@@mrpokkee I hate how I feel like I'm gonna need more space hacker set... 😂😂😂
@Raven-pk6op
@Raven-pk6op 8 месяцев назад
7 pity all it took was seven pity by mistake i now won 9 50/50 i just have bad relic luck lol I will take it
@Icer48
@Icer48 8 месяцев назад
OURgenti
@godzy1304
@godzy1304 8 месяцев назад
I had saved 101 wishes for him. Won the pity. Got both him and his weapon too. T^T. Imma so happy. He is so elegant and goofy. XD.
@XMS1212X
@XMS1212X 8 месяцев назад
I’ll stick with my Clara for physical doesn’t need skill points
@Dream1n_o
@Dream1n_o 8 месяцев назад
do you think his lightcone is good for qingque?
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
Not really since Qq relies on basic attack and followup dmg from autarky
@ericx6969
@ericx6969 8 месяцев назад
Light cone is for anyone
@p.e.r.c.y
@p.e.r.c.y 8 месяцев назад
I was trying to snipe a Hanya and got him in 12 wishes after HuoHuo. I was going to skip, still don't have Hanya though
@didwewin90
@didwewin90 8 месяцев назад
Same issue. Got E3 Lynx and SW then I went on the other banner and got him as well..... No Hanya yet with 37 pulls.
@mrbigz252
@mrbigz252 8 месяцев назад
Lightning Lord doesn't hit enemies that are dead like you stated at 10:40 Soooooo is JingYuan getting more hate for no reason, cuz yeah if all enemies are dead Argenti also loses his bonus hit dmg as does JingYuan, but if an enemy dies to 1st or 2nd hit of LL then they aren't the main focus of LL hits anymore.
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
Repost lightning lord's targetting by itself is an oxymoron; he doesnt want adjacent targets as it reduces the chance of main target being hit by LL's main 66% multiplier, but he also wants adjacent targets so as to improve LL's total damage from 66% on a single target alone to now 66%x1.5, 660% vs 990% in the perfect world, LL always hits the center target, with splash damage + main damage coming out to 990%. in reality, this is impossible as it will only have a 1/3 chance of hitting the center target, resulting in damage wasteage as LL stacks aim adjacent targets, leading the main target to only receive 25% multiplier per stack. Argenti will never face this issue as its first hit is so strong that it easily wipes all mobs, leading the remaining 6 hits to focus with 0 wastage. no matter how you see it, Argenti's enhanced ultimate will outdamage lightning lord at every scenario, be it 1,3 or 5 targets. im not saying this because I "dont like jingyuan", I'm just being realistic. feel free to use anyone in HSR as long as you enjoy them 🙂
@Sami-dy8lk
@Sami-dy8lk 8 месяцев назад
​​@@mrpokkeeBruh you're reposting the wrong thing again Jy would never prefer mobs before LL just to get the Blast dmg.Why are you presenting an unrealistic scenario to downplay him? You just presented a no mob scenario for Argenti's bounce while presenting a mobs scenario for Jy's bounce . Jy would also kill the mobs with skill+ult before hitting the Fua.
@jamesmillares6692
@jamesmillares6692 8 месяцев назад
@@Sami-dy8lk Don't waste your time to this person.
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
@@Sami-dy8lk refer to previous thread. in any case, why are YOU presenting an unrealistic scenario that guarantees jingyuan killing all mobs everytime? JY 2 skill 1 Ult is 400% mult, Argenti 1 skill 1 enhanced ult is already 400%. there is no scenario where jingyuan can clear mobs while argenti cant, but the contrary can happen. Im sure your jingyuan is excellent and can one shot every mob, but its not realistic nor representative of the entire playerbase.
@Sami-dy8lk
@Sami-dy8lk 8 месяцев назад
@@mrpokkee Yea nope most of the playerbase can clear mobs with skill+ult on JY it's the realistic situation
@jsdjfdjsfjsdfblake
@jsdjfdjsfjsdfblake 8 месяцев назад
eleganto
@vicentepadayao1
@vicentepadayao1 8 месяцев назад
how does his overall damage compare to Jing Yuan?
@thisisshite
@thisisshite 8 месяцев назад
visit JYmains if you want to inhale heavy copium
@Booliciously
@Booliciously 8 месяцев назад
It’s higher because it’s not backloaded into a follow up. Even if you use 90 ult for “lower dmg than full stack LL” you’ll hit it more often. So he does more damage overall in a fight.
@georgezhang1573
@georgezhang1573 8 месяцев назад
His damage is easier to control due to having a 90 cost ult for mob clearing, while jing yuan needs to kill mobs with skill and ult to not waste LL stacks. He also has access to more buff sources, like bronya who can’t buff LL but can buff argenti ult, and it isn’t possible to overcap speed on argenti unlike jing yuan, since LL has a max stack. However, these are all quality of life changes, and not damage. In damage, especially with hanya’s release as a strong support for jing yuan, they are pretty similar in an optimal team as long as each gets their signature lc(not sure about non-signature, I think argenti with r5 peaceful day is better, not sure about breakfast). However, as mentioned above, it’s a lot easier to have an optimal team and build with argenti than jing yuan.
@ericx6969
@ericx6969 8 месяцев назад
He probably does better because his ultimate and relics make him stronger
@Linclonable
@Linclonable 7 месяцев назад
argenti is bugged right now so i hope he does way more damage when its fixed
@qaywsx583
@qaywsx583 8 месяцев назад
Fartgenti seems pretty good afterall. I had fun using him in the fight club event with tingyun and bronya.
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw 8 месяцев назад
Did a 10x for Hanya, got her AND Argenti. Ironically, since I did get HuoHuo I got his complete team without even aiming for him, and I have Before Dawn.
@Eqvil
@Eqvil 8 месяцев назад
Soooo. every new unit is gonna outdo the previous? Guess I'll skip the next five DPS units to get the sixth which will tower over everyone else before him.
@templeknights
@templeknights 8 месяцев назад
Seems you are new to the Honkai game titles. It's literally following the same pattern as Honkai Impact Third where each battle suit power crept the last one so expect to see the same thing here.
@silvaquick193
@silvaquick193 8 месяцев назад
Wait for lore powerful characters like genshin archon, perhaps we get playable aeon? Or raiden mei expy because she is always stronk
@tweezy5804
@tweezy5804 8 месяцев назад
Really glad that I don't like his design at all and don't want to use him lol. Also , picked up clara off 300 standard , soo I had some physical weakness copium to build.
@Cino-Cin
@Cino-Cin 8 месяцев назад
🌹
@vintagetimmy1893
@vintagetimmy1893 8 месяцев назад
As nice as he is, I have too many dps (Seele, Blade, IL: Imagine Dragon, E1 Jing Liu already so this is a skip no matter what. 😢
@williamzeo2493
@williamzeo2493 8 месяцев назад
After Dr.Ratio nerfs I'm seriously considering pulling for Argenti.
@idonotmakevidsyet
@idonotmakevidsyet 8 месяцев назад
Nerf? Where? They buffed him
@Finagou
@Finagou 8 месяцев назад
Nerfs? You mean buffs
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 8 месяцев назад
Stop looking at leaks and pull the characters you like.
@keneunaegbu851
@keneunaegbu851 8 месяцев назад
There were no nerfs, just dmg distribution and more follow up consistency. People see a character lose something and automatically assume its a nerf 😂
@ninthfriend3347
@ninthfriend3347 8 месяцев назад
It's more like he's more simplified. Yeah he lost his spd and attack buff but his new deduction change makes up for it. Proccing his fua and getting to max stacks of his summation passive are easier. Also his ult folly proc from his allies is guaranteed now instead of by fixed chance. I'll take that over being reliant on his rng which is interesting but is going to frustrated to play around in the end. He's better than before now
@morrowthewizard3945
@morrowthewizard3945 8 месяцев назад
Elegance (love that from spy x family) haha
@khaledmohamed6856
@khaledmohamed6856 8 месяцев назад
"no backloaded damage" Then you complain about jing mains bothering you? Lmao i don't get it you would never make that comment if you're making a video on seele or smthn.
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 8 месяцев назад
why do you think im only referring to jingyuan om
@khaledmohamed6856
@khaledmohamed6856 8 месяцев назад
​​@@mrpokkeebecause you don't usually make that comment and you said it right after 5 star erudition dps lmao😭. Also I don't think we have another backloaded damage dealer do we? At least not the same way Jing yuan is.
@jineng6376
@jineng6376 8 месяцев назад
A new Physical AoE DPS? PhysMC: "nah I'd win 🗿"
@RenDem44
@RenDem44 8 месяцев назад
Brother ... I just got finished building my Clara. Lvl 80, all traces unlocked and minium lvl8, farmed decent relics and then i decided to try a single multi to get hanya for daniel ..... Guess i won't be using Clara ever again lmao
@georgezhang1573
@georgezhang1573 8 месяцев назад
Clara is still better for multi attack elites and is very strong as a subdps. Also sometimes enemies in a new wave act instantly, which gives Clara an advantage in wave clearing in those cases.
@asssssssssdawdadw
@asssssssssdawdadw 8 месяцев назад
spent 100 dollars just to lose my 50/50 to bailu i can't keep whaling like this
@backyardtortoise.
@backyardtortoise. 8 месяцев назад
💀
@asssssssssdawdadw
@asssssssssdawdadw 7 месяцев назад
@@backyardtortoise. don't mock me
@SpaceM0nkey-dd9em
@SpaceM0nkey-dd9em 8 месяцев назад
ELEGANTO>OURGENTI
@Tirriou94
@Tirriou94 8 месяцев назад
I see similarities between Argenti and Jingyuan and he feels like Jingyuan with none of the LL caveats
@JohnStamR
@JohnStamR 8 месяцев назад
So hard skip all follow up, sub dps, and hunt characters because everything else is op except those...
@georgezhang1573
@georgezhang1573 8 месяцев назад
Is this meant to be sarcastic? If not, you can look up some dr. ratio leaks, hoyo will make limited characters op no matter the mechanics.
@aleksandar2046
@aleksandar2046 8 месяцев назад
Bro hasn't heard of Topaz 😂😂
@m.ridzwan99-26
@m.ridzwan99-26 8 месяцев назад
Wasn't this exactly what people said to erudition before argenti came😂
@LA_MALA_ORDINA
@LA_MALA_ORDINA 8 месяцев назад
Hmmm physical backloaded aoe nuke with high energy cost who does that remind me of🤔
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 8 месяцев назад
Eula?
@Dominicus100
@Dominicus100 8 месяцев назад
Backloaded? 😂
@takuyamishima8
@takuyamishima8 8 месяцев назад
As expected, we see some retard seele mains in the comments 😂
@LA_MALA_ORDINA
@LA_MALA_ORDINA 8 месяцев назад
@@Dominicus100 backloaded is a stretch but shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@trailsmw3252
@trailsmw3252 8 месяцев назад
Pretty sure that’s not backloaded that wouldn’t be elegant
@HIIMROSS777
@HIIMROSS777 8 месяцев назад
The Argenti doubters got proven wrong. He’s absolutely cracked. The way MoC works he builds up his energy on the trash mobs and then nukes the elites/bosses after. He’ll be even stronger in pure fiction.
@farhangp2552
@farhangp2552 8 месяцев назад
I dunno why erudition is so damn expensive to build. Man 😔
@takuyamishima8
@takuyamishima8 8 месяцев назад
Same with hunt. Destructions are just so fine
@o0oplzo0o1
@o0oplzo0o1 8 месяцев назад
mid yuan skin looks good
@mrdeafter
@mrdeafter 8 месяцев назад
doubter can't even read his skill lol i said he would be god tier and his ult energy is nonissue but they wouldn't believe me since they can't read.
@leka2095
@leka2095 8 месяцев назад
yes, you are very smart and awesome for getting a W over other people's opinion on an anime game character. here, have some cookies 🍪🍪 you did great on your reading test sweetie, you deserve it
@RozaDaZLastBloomer
@RozaDaZLastBloomer 8 месяцев назад
​@@leka2095I bet you're one of those people
@christophermauro-barias7451
@christophermauro-barias7451 8 месяцев назад
spy x familyyy
@user-ss6yh2lu5j
@user-ss6yh2lu5j 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂
@Ramxenoc
@Ramxenoc 8 месяцев назад
Jing Yuan hitting 29K with a bronya supporting him is still funny af.
@pepsodon
@pepsodon 8 месяцев назад
midyuan killer
@restart6358
@restart6358 8 месяцев назад
Both are the best erudition ❤
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 8 месяцев назад
​@@restart6358Best can't be shared, it's a title for one person only.
@restart6358
@restart6358 8 месяцев назад
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 no, both can be shared in my reality 🤭
@kingsimba9513
@kingsimba9513 8 месяцев назад
Wanted to pull for Hanya and I got a 5* at 20 pity. So happy I lost the 50/50 to Bronya, Midgenti looks so mediocre ❤
@_tami.
@_tami. 8 месяцев назад
He’s S+ in aoe check prydwen he’s very good but not op I like him that way so I don’t get bullied for playing the best unit
@kingsimba9513
@kingsimba9513 8 месяцев назад
@@_tami. you'll get bullied for playing a male character.
@Ilikegames804
@Ilikegames804 8 месяцев назад
@@kingsimba9513 You get bullied if you are weird and how the hell are you in HSR video with a male character?
@Gerafix
@Gerafix 8 месяцев назад
Physical is also just a better typing than lightning, Midjuan enjoyers in shambles.
@leka2095
@leka2095 8 месяцев назад
huh?
@dragonkus6934
@dragonkus6934 8 месяцев назад
The fact that Hoyo had to (CREATE ) a mode just for these erudition characters to even begin to shy says a lot... no thanks! Easy skip 👌
@takuyamishima8
@takuyamishima8 8 месяцев назад
Huh? Destructions and eruditions has the fastest average clear times in moc since day one. Its hunt path thats really disappointing, topaz is even unranked in dps category and the rest of the hunt path except seele is shoved down in the bottom tier list says a lot
@RdioActvBanana
@RdioActvBanana 8 месяцев назад
I guess jing yuan isnt mid anymore.. he is str8 up trash
@Sami-dy8lk
@Sami-dy8lk 8 месяцев назад
Ah yes some Ytber spreading false information and his followers blindly believing him.
@jamesmillares6692
@jamesmillares6692 8 месяцев назад
@@Sami-dy8lk What you expect this is Mr.Pokke channel.
@Sambroke
@Sambroke 8 месяцев назад
Where is hanya, the real 5* this patch
@xenoemblem7
@xenoemblem7 8 месяцев назад
Both Argenti and Hanya are 5-stars.
@ThaoHoang-pb2nq
@ThaoHoang-pb2nq 8 месяцев назад
MidYuan
@xenoemblem7
@xenoemblem7 8 месяцев назад
@@ThaoHoang-pb2nqNothing is more mid than your opinion
@restart6358
@restart6358 8 месяцев назад
​@@ThaoHoang-pb2nq L+ Dr.Ratio, ur comment isn't even relevant, damn what hatred do to people
@victorsalazar8285
@victorsalazar8285 8 месяцев назад
I am so mad and happy at the same time I lost my 50/50 on SW banner to Bronya then i said screw it and did a 10 pull on argenti banner and got him first try.....🥲 I was tryna go for mono quantum but seems like I'm getting mono physical cause lynx doesn't show up and hanya likes passing by like I didn't just get a Bronya 😂 #FEELSBADMAN
@ch1dd
@ch1dd 8 месяцев назад
We seem to be getting a free lynx some time so you can do both monos
@TerraTheWise
@TerraTheWise 8 месяцев назад
Why wouldn’t your next 10 pull just be on SW if that’s who you really wanted…
@restart6358
@restart6358 8 месяцев назад
​@@TerraTheWise people are so dumb and then they complain
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 8 месяцев назад
I don't wanna say you are full of S, buuuuuuuuut. You wanted SW, you got Bronya.....but you go pull on Argenti banner instead of staying in SW ???
@omensoffate
@omensoffate 8 месяцев назад
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483it’s made up
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