Today's 'takeaways': 1) "You already know what to do" 2) "Would you let your kids do that?" 3) "Would you let a stranger in your home do that?" 4) 'Boundaries' 5) 'Punishment' In summary, *"don't be your dog's doormat."*
ppl dont understand the real dog language : violence. just watch wolves : its all about violence, and once everyone found his place : its all love and loyalty
Punishment to me Is saying no, taking away his Toys, isolating him and gnoring him for a Half house while he's desperately seeking for my attention (sending him away from the family circle in the corridory). Word punishment doesn't mean physical torture. Punishment Is sending the dog in his room for few hours with no attention Toys to reflect on his behaviours, getting his attention and holding him accountable for a wrong behaviour, dogs don't fix themselves by themselves. When i punish the dog i like the no talk, no touch, no Eye contact. When he's in punishment i like to open the Door each half hour and pass next to him inventing that i have stuff to do in the kitchen, i create some noises there, open the drawers, pick up something, then walk again next to him making him feel invisibile for that few hours. Sometimes i like to open the camera of my phone and look at his face while he's seeking for my attention, i avoid any verbal, Eye and physical contact with him. I did this few times when he almost ate the chair pillow and tried to snap at me because i stopped him. I agree with this man, Imagine raising my 1 year old kid giving M&M the whole time for everything also because he stopped having a bad behaviour or to correct a bad behaviour. Nope. Kids can't be compared to dogs at all but i agree with the fact that exclusive positive behaviours aren't good for anyone. Showing a lot of affection to Kids (especially to a newborn) and being Always there for them and holding (the newborn) often in your arms it's never bad, but i have a calm kid, doing this to a dog It's not ok at all and i completely get the M&M thing.
Tell my boyfriend this. I’m disabled as this dog has bitten me hard enough to draw blood and bruise, dislocated my shoulder clawed up my arms and legs, kicked me in the face and knocked me flat onto a concrete floor several times. He almost never walks this akita /husky mix who is 16 months now and not neutered
My GS rescue blew out my knee, jumped on my face while I laid down on my couch, 2 eye surgeries partial blindness, playing too hard, now neutered, he is now a different dog. I never gave up, ever. Never positive training! Ever. But now he knows! I am in control. I am the parent here, and I had to unlearn his wild ways when I got him at 5 1/2 months. Joel has helped me turn my dog around with his no nonsense dog training… “I’ve got alllllll day.” Now I can just look at Henry and he knows what I expect of him;) I take him everywhere, and he has to earn his walks, drives etc. as Joel says. Best tip so far: Mark bad behavior (sound) then correct (punish behavior) dog. 🐕 thx Joel !!!!!!!! ❤❤❤
@@SobrietyandSolace so sorry! My dog (GS rescue) did much of this to me! I had bruises and teeth marks yes drew blood… but I threw out the positive training and put on a prong collar then walked my dog daily at least 3 miles… walking has helped my dog mind much much better. He is a calm happy well behaved dog, Especially after neutering!!! (At 2 years old) Neutering did help. Exhausting his energy with walking, playing, training and games and much patience. Good luck!!! 🐕 I learn soooo much from Joel, he is the best!
I’m 105 lbs. and petite woman. My 90 lbs. pit bull would not have ended up being the sweet, well behaved dog that she is now if I only followed the positive only methods. You have reinforced what I’ve always known from the start. Subscribed!
Before I found this channel I tried the positive only stuff. More times than not I ended up doing the "punishments" to get my dog to understand more deeply when a behavior is unacceptable. Thank you so much for this channel and making me feel like I'm not a horrible dog owner when I tell my dog to stop doing something. Most of the time it doesn't even take more than a stern tone to stop a bad behavior. When my dog was finally pottery trained to only go outside, he would bark and bark and bark at me so much it hurt my ears. That was not acceptable to me. After letting him know that he should not bark at me he figured out a quiet way to tell me that he needs to go out. Then we get it done and we're all good.
I mean, you've basically just described yourself as a lazy dog owner here... Your dog was literally trying to communicate with you that he needed to go outside... So instead of utilising that intellect from your dog you punished it? WTAF? You know you could've leveraged your dogs intuition to ring a bell when it needs to go outside with... That's right TRAINING... Without the need for aversives. Jesus man, I feel bad for your dog!
@@D3N2W I think you are making an incorrect assumption. I get the feeling that you are not in favor of Beckman's methods. Anyways... He used the term "punishment" broadly. It's not necessary for my dog to bark so loudly that I feel actual pain in my ears just to let me know he needs to go out. The "punishment" was a simple "ah! Ah!" And as soon as he stopped we went out. There was not physical punishment. He learned very quickly that he doesn't have to bark and I learned his cue by the way he looks at me. That is training. If that hadn't worked, I definitely would have gone the bell by the door. We figured out how to communicate. There is no way that is lazy. It would have been lazy if I neglected him and didn't let him relieve himself outside.
I would give almost anything to have my dog give me an alert that they need to go potty. Then I could work on the appropriateness of the barking. She hasn't had but four or five accidents maybe after the first 24 to 48 hours she was with me.
Perfect and clear! , the shaming from social media that stops dog owners from dealing with bad behaviour the way they should(as you said with people and kids) is way so many are in shelters, come on dog owners Grow some !,, thanks again
One of my dear friends has a large mixed-breed dog. Around 80 pounds or so. The dog would attempt to jump on me whenever I walked into the room. I finally clapped my hands and in a rather loud voice said NO! Over time the dog stopped jumping on me. Today, when I enter the dog, will walk up to me and I will pet it. All 4 paws stay on the floor! My friend and her husband are amazed the dog won't jump on me now. I don't think they liked it that I raised my voice at the dog, but when I am wearing a business suit that cost me 4 figures NO dog is going to destroy that suit.
“Can you only be nice to your kids??” Ohhhhhh HECK NO! Same goes for dogs. Every person and every domesticated animal needs rules and boundaries. Nobody gets to do whatever they want.
I wish I'd found you years ago. My 2 rescue dogs are 7 now (cane corso x lab) powerful and strong willed. I spent years and thousands on positive training and got nowhere. After a few short sessions using these methods there is already improvement. It will take time due to their age but now I'm seeing results I no longer dread taking them for a walk. They are still reactive on leash and one doesn't come off the lead at all as he's unpredictable, but the improvement is immense. THANK YOU SO MUCH 😊
Joel I've been watching dog training videos since January 2020... If this video was around then I would be in a COMPLETELY different place today. I not only searched the internet for someone who could teach me an acceptable way to "punish" a dog but I also emailed so many RU-vidrs and no one gave me an answer which I felt right with in my gut. This video is so simple, that's it's beauty, it just makes sense and it clears up all the nonsense that is out there. Thank you on behalf of every amateur pet owner/dog trainer to even serious dog trainers. This is worth thousands of dollars ... 💯
I love you! I foster dogs and I end up fostering many dogs because the owner wouldn’t make the dog mind and they tore up the house and furniture, wouldn’t listen, and so on and so on. One week with me and they are sleeping in a crate at night, sitting and waiting to eat or get a treat and walking on a leash without pulling. You are spot on with your advice. ❤️❤️❤️
I had to learn the hard way that the all „positive” way doesn’t work. My dog taught me how to correct unwanted behavior properly, when she started correcting me and I knew the roles needed to be reversed immediately. Now we have an honest relationship. Thanks for all the truthful information even though that comes criticism.
Parents and pet owners are afraid to be the "bad guy" and that their child or pet will love them less if they discipline them. Afraid the pet or child will not be their favorite in the house. I battle this in my household but using your advice and techniques, I've proved to them that you don't have to worry about it. You don't show emotion or yell, just correct and praise when they do good.
Joel, Thank you for the term punishment. I just started watching your videos February 2022. What a blessing you and your videos are ! I rescued a Plott Hound Spay female 9mo old that was dumped in my neighborhood Dec. 20th, 2022. I started training her immediately with sit, stay, walking on a leash, come, etc. My new dog thinks she can jump up on bed at least 3 times in the morning. Each time I say off, she gets off. Within 2 minutes she is up on the bed again. Next time she jumps up on the bed...... I will get out of bed, say off and then I will have her sit & look at her to reinforce I am the boss! This dog has many issues, but I am determined to love and train her with your videos to be a wonderful dog.
4:56 "Then you do it again, then you do it again, then you do it again, then the behavior goes away". So much truth; there has to be consistency for our dogs to learn what it's expected of them and what isn't. Had a dog pull as soon as I opened the door. I worked him one afternoon- I would bring him back to the door threshold and have him mantain a stay. I would close the door the moment he tried walking through, and whenever he broke his stay I'd bring him back around. One afternoon and me working on it for 10 or so minutes and he knew what I expected of him: an open door is not an invitation. I will step out and once I've decided he's calm enough, I'll signal for him to come out. Same when coming back home! It was relieving not dreading opening the door.
This approach has been so helpful to train my Rottweiler puppies. I used to feel bad if I said no, or stop it and addressed the behavior. Using only positive reinforcement doesn’t work there needs to be checks and balances. 🥰
I can personally vouch for this info Joel is giving here I have a dog , my neighbor has a dog .. I give dominant corrections to mine , she just practices positive enforcement (and tells me off when I punish my dog) .. her house is full of torn rugs , cushion covers and no maid is ready to work in her house (spoilt dog) .. Meanwhile I sleep peacefully , my dog seeks my approval before DOING ANYTHING , even if he wants to play with guests/servants he looks at me for the heads-up .. (Enough ranting lol)
@@tiahash2013 Yeah , domestic help/servants arent that common there where you live. I live in India . It's common here for below middle class people to do dishes, cook food in others' homes for salary . They are not slaves , just employees for an hour of work .
Thank you so much! I don't know if it's too late, but I've been trying to train this dog that my mother-in-law has, and the dog is 12 years old now. She's a little Schnoodl, and they got her when she was a puppy back in 2013. She was my parent-in-laws mother's dog, but the parent-in-law raised the dog on treats alone. I met this dog in 2022, so i think the damage is beyond done. She tries to run everyone in the house. Both of my in-laws are too old to give her walks, which leaves me to do it because my husband works 10 hour shifts, so it leaves me to walk her during the day. She won't listen to me, and I don't reward her with treats on bad behavior, but she likes to run me, and before her, I've never had a dog beforehand. I'm trying to actively train her myself, but it seems like no matter what I do, things are just not changing. All her owner does is yell at her when she does something wrong, but of course, she'll keep doing it anyway. I don't want to give up because I believe that she deserves better, but it's hard not to because no one else wants to try. The last thing I have to say is when we let her outside we don't even put her on a leash and she'll run in the alleyway behind the house so to get her to not do that you have to sit outside and tell her to go potty.
FINALLY someone who speaks my language!!! Geez, I have been watching videos of how to train a very smart, large ,headstrong puppy & this is what is needed!! Thank you
Thank you so much for your information. Before I found your channel, I was considering rehoming my 5 month ol gsd puppy, I thought she was too stubborn to be trained and was attacking my 4yr old collie. Because of your videos, she is calmer, and not attacking my collie. You have given me permission to correct my dog, without all of the weak positive only reinforcement most people advocate. I never let my children behave in a way that would bring the police to my door, so I'm not going to let my gsd bring the police either. I am the boss and she is now following me for guidance. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Thank you! I really needed this video right now. All the training I can find is positive, positive, positive, which doesn't deal with unwanted behaviour. Countersurfing is a perfect example - I can teach my dog to get off when she jumps up, and I can make sure there's not stuff up there to reinforce the bad behaviour, but she's not learning not to jump up in the first place! I have brought up 5 kids using both positive and punishment (even just saying no is a punishment) and they know that what I say goes, without ever needing physical punishment. I would love to get to that point with my dog. No wonder that there are more dogs with behaviour problems, because we are taught not to tell them off - these dogs are confused about what is right and what is wrong!
A refreshing perspective! It's not rocket science and very much like raising children if you have them. Even if you start out as a positive reinforcement parent, you quickly learn it's just not an effective method in raising well rounded kids. Similar with dogs. The only difference the window of opportunity to make or break a dog is so much smaller. So it's critical to get it right from the start! Thank you!
I have a 4 month old German Shepherd puppy. I’ve had her since she was 13 weeks. She’s generally a good pup. She is learning and listening but she’s got a long way to go and I have a lot to learn. Glad I found your channel early on, your methods are by far the best I’ve seen on RU-vid.
I'm a fairly new subscriber...I really like the info and techniques you share. In any video of yours that I've watched, I have never seen you be mean to any of the dogs. I have seen you communicate clearly to them, I've seen you assess and consider each individual dog. Also, I don't see you suggesting anyone mistreat their dogs. I'm glad I found your channel. You have helped me and your techniques are helping me be a better foster. So, for what it's worth, when you say "punishment", it doesn't trigger me. One of my acquaintances used to work with training service type dogs using, I think it was called, operant conditioning methods. If a few viewers are bothered by a word and they don't see what you're teaching us.....they are missing out, which, in my humble opinion, is unfortunate for them. I really appreciate what I've learned from you. Thank you.
Couldn't agree more. Boundaries make dogs (and children alike) feel secure not unhappy. We've got the same craze about positive reinforcement in France and it's leading nowhere... Thanks for all your videos . Love your channel 👍🇫🇷💚🇺🇸👍
Omg. The way you start this video... 💯 I love it. Everytime you post a new video, I share it, and I tell people "God, I love this guy." I've trained my puppy up with your advice to be an absolutely awesome puppy. She loose leash walks, she doesn't bark incessantly, I've taught her how to chill out, she has great recall (and when she doesnt I go get her and it's not a game) and now I've trained her to bring me trash instead of running around wildly being a nuisance.
👏👏👏👏 it’s not easy, but I’ve been working my butt off to be a good leader for my young male! And I’ve always loved how you say “subscribe this channel” like something you just have to add at the end😂. It shows your true passion for dogs and to share your knowledge.👏👏👏
THANKYOU, so empowering to know you can reprimand your dog for bad behaviour, I feel I can no longer tell my dog “no” because “it’s cruel” that’s what we are told nowadays, just “treat them” until it stops 😫
I went to a dog training class once (didn’t know it was positive only, but should have known because of were I live, Sweden) and I discussed how I believe new behaviors can and should be trained positive only, but had doubts with really bad learned dangerous behaviors ie “problem” dogs threatened with euthanasia. She replied that she had worked with dogs such as this and only used positive methods…I still have my doubts. 😅
I agree 💯…. As a teacher for over 25 years… positive reinforcement doesn’t always work…I mean why should I give a kid a treat for doing something they should already be doing? I always set very clear expectations and always held my students accountable…and yes….it was always followed through with consequences…that’s the problem with parents today… they want to be friends with their kids instead of parents…and what are the results?… spoiled and out of control kids who have no boundaries placed in them! Thank you! Live your videos and I learn so much watching your techniques and how you handle situations…😊🙏🏼
No it's not only about dogs, that's why they do pet therapy (not with your dog). When you understand what a pup or a dog really needs you learn many things and also heal, even if people and dogs can't be compared, the attitude Is Always the same, for example to ovewhelm if there are no boundaries.
A strong man in all sense of the word . Love your videos. You show sheer boundaries and discipline and I love it. As a woman I tend to have emotional reactions to my dogs bad behavior and then I feel guilty so having a strong disciplined man to say this is exactly what I need to do is gold.
Such a welcome change to hear the truth spoken. Love your calm, straightforward approach. What a breath of fresh air you are. I love my dog- he is treated extremely well and disciplined very fairly (when needed) and without irritation. I’m working on raising a wonderful companion with good manners who is a pleasure to be around.
I wish my sister would listen to this. She has a Shiba Inu who walks ALL OVER her and doesn't listen whatsoever. I mean, she isn't the worst Shiba I've ever encountered, but she is 7/10 awful and my sister is always like "WhY dOeSn'T sHe LiStEn tO mE" while praising her for Literally BREATHING. Jumps on you and begs for food, "GOOD GIRL POPPY. I'M SO PROUD OF YOU." (She literally says this. I'm not even exaggerating.) Then like, 20 minutes later: "why doesn't she respect me?" Me: 🙄
Thank you! I love your firm resolve to call it like it is….PUNISHMENT! It says a lot about a person if they are offended by the word “punishment.”🤦🏼♀️
I’ve sent this video to everyone I know with dogs! I’ve done this with my dog since watching your videos. I’ve learned so much from your channel, keep making these great videos.
I’m so glad I found this Chanel I always thought positive reinforcement alone isn’t enough. Dogs know what they can and can’t get away with if you let them. Since using your techniques my puppy is more obedient. No nonsense sets them up for success as they grow they as long as we are consistent. Thank you so much for your videos they are the best! 🥰
Repercussions for bad behavior works for kids and also works with dogs. My sister has the same breed dog as myself, because of this channel my dog now walks off leash around our yard, it is so nice to see a happy dog enjoying their space. My sister's dog is out of control, it destroys her home and tears everything up. Thank you for your channel it really works. I have a Chiweenie and she is loving walking off leash. She stays with me and then loves to sit in the lawn chair for hours.
Rupert: "jumps on counter" me from over there: "off" Rupert: *gets off ....repeat.... fml lol. Appreciate the info! Doing my best to learn and be consistent but your totally spot on. Too much media/zak george/positive reinforcement bs. Its never been 100% with that stuff and my dogs not even that bad.
I've just watched a few of your videos so far. You are amazing. I just got a two year old dog a couple of days ago. She likes to lay down when you pet her. I don't like that. So I followed your advice in another video and just stopped petting her until she got back up. It was amazing. Within just a couple of minutes she learned not to lay down if she wants to be petted. I'm going to binge watch all of your videos.
yep; i have fostered over 20 dogs and puppies the last two years and i learned that dogs are happier when they know what is expected of them and are told what to do. Even puppies can be taught boundaries (what do people think the mommy dog does when her puppies are acting crazy, redirect them?)
I admire your straight forward approach, I have done the same with four large dogs over forty years. Currently have a four month Rottweiller and she understands now that no means NO! I am tired of PC dog owners who cannot differentiate between a dog and a human.
really needed to here this right now. New dog that I need to establish boundaries cause he thinks he has none. Had him 2 weeks and working with him but got frustrated today. Thanks for the pep talk.
Many people do not want to Chastise, punish, talk harshly to their little 'fur babies' because they are under the false belief the dogs's feelings are going to be hurt and it will make them unhappy. A dog needs the 'pack' stability and being 'punished' when they step out of line and know their place within the pack is a totally natural thing. Everyone who wants to get a dog for the first time should have to watch these videos.
My boyfriend has three big dogs that in my opinion are out of control! One is a Utonagan which gave birth and he kept two of her puppies (father is a collie) the pubs are 2, mum 7 and she has anxiety separation, she does not listen, when walking they charged other dogs, the mother when corrected jumps out the window to the terrace, the pubs jump, bark and you named it. Is creating so much stress as our love is around what they want and when they wanted. Don’t know what to do!
Adopted a 3.5 year old rescue 3 months ago. Fearful of people, kids, strangers, loud noises, the moon ( literally) with an insatiable desire to chase squirrels and rabbits. Lacked socialization obviously. Followed your desensitization techniques. 3 months later, honestly, all above phobias........gone. not a sign of them at all. Goes towards kids, strangers, doesn't care about the moon ( wierd phobia i know) and doesn't care about squirrels or rabbits. Remarkable. And balanced the approach with positive reinforcement ( as you do) with corrections. THANK YOU!
Thank you!! It's my first year owning a dog and the stuff you mentioned in this video are accurate. Other training methods online barely helped but when I found your channel I understood more about what I needed to do to train my dog correctly and you helped me understand my dog better rather than finding a training method which didn't work out and kept attempting others which made the training process longer.
Every dog I have ever had was trained exactly this way..All my dogs were amazing...dogs want to please after they know what you expect of them.. As a society we are soft, sports , parenting, dogs etc.. We all need to wake up..
Within 24hrs of bringing home my rescue dog, he counter surfed. My hubby gave him a firm "No! Bad!" had him sit and he hasnt done it ever again, its been just over 2yrs! First rescue Ive had as an adult, none of my raised pups ever attempted this behaviour, probably because we set the tone from day one.
Exactly this! All the dogs we have raised from pups have been well behaved, whereas our rescue dog is a challenge! We have to 'undo' all the bad habits she has from her previous owners!
Thanks for the talk. You just described me with our nine month old Australian Labradoodle. Jumping and counter surfing are the problems. Always sound and logical advice.
You know what I love, there are no bad comments! Because it’s true. Someone from a positive school dog training speaking here. Punishment is not bad. You are not even using harsh methods, but really, there are boundaries!
Thank you. I think a lot of dog owners try to do things “nice” because they are afraid to get bit by their dog, or handle their dog. They don’t want to “hurt” them, emotionally or physically, so they don’t push or test their dogs. They don’t put their dogs in uncomfortable situations because they know they can’t handle a dog tantrum; so the keep their dog “mellow” (results vary with this method). A lot of people don’t understand that their dog is not human and so dogs just don’t think like humans do and owners try to apply a whole school of (misunderstood, oversimplified) human/primate psychology to them and that’s jus not how dogs communicate. Dogs don’t care about human concepts, they just want simple no nonsense communication. There’s probably some overlaps, but dog and human psychology is not 1:1. IT also doesn’t help that there’s a lot of propaganda out there that shut-outs any dog rearing tips that isn’t Jean Donaldson. Also, somehow, correcting your dog has been translated too “take your dog and slam it into the ground until it breaks it’s legs and learns it lesson”…. No dog trainer ever has done that. Jeff Gellman is the closest with his bonker stick, but no one really has ever listened to him before and he’s become irrelevant.
Geez I'm building a lot of respect for you. When the word police come knocking you have the integrity to stand your ground. More people like you, and this world would be a much better place.
You explaining this is such a waste of you and your other clients with serious dog problems' time. But I guess ppl need to hear this again and again. More power to you, man!
Thank you for your straight forward videos. I have a new puppy and have watched tons of videos that only -- only recommend positive reinforcement. As with children, sometimes "punishment" is much more positive than a reward. Great job!
OK the dog gets a punishment which would be a firm word so they can also hear the depth in your voice, he's not beating the dog up so what's the problem? I honestly believe that on RU-vid you are the BEST trainer, thinking with sense and logic instead of soft estrogen re-enforcement!
I love your practical approach! It has been so helpful with training my high energy Boston. I was so discouraged for a time, but now at 9 mos we are seeing marked progress and are finally enjoying our dog!!!!
I love this content!! Keep the realness going ☺️ 7 mo!!! Wow you’re more patient than me. My 7mo knows all the boundaries. As a high energy Aussie I couldn’t allow him to rule.
I love watching your videos! I don't even have problems with my dog, but I like the things you have to say and how you say them, so glad I found this channel
I have a very young GSD and watched some of these positive reinforcement videos and tried using their method. Disaster. I started implementing Beckman's advice and all of a sudden a lot of the unacceptable behaviors are being curbed.
Punishment is purely another word for consequence of action and having accountability..... bad people go to prison for PUNISHMENT of action and if some people dont like that word its tough, it is what it is. I love you joel your to the point and its high time more people would follow you an your advice....it would save alot of dogs 👍😊😊😊
It's good to know the distinction from the video and comments on how and what to do that's appropriate. Especially when dealing with adult and larger dogs and the owner is smaller or weaker or dealing with some other physical handicap, there is a caution of getting too physical (or e-coller strong shocks, yelling, etc) to try and compensate. Knowing the posture or presence and how to convey energy without abuse is critical. There's some of that spoken, and plenty of it shown, but more spoken detail on how or what that looks like would be nice. Same thing goes for how the dog is communicating back ... ears pinned back is good but there's a few emotions that could convey and not all of them are "sorry". (For example the bit about physically removing counter surfing was a key detail above and beyond the command to get off. Same goes for the "knock it off and walk into them" for jumping or the "ah-ah and wait for no barking before going out" in a comment further down.)
YES! You are great. I can't say this enough! I agree 100% with Amanda Milo. This is COMMON sense stuff. And it does work on everything. I CAN NOT wait for you to have DVD's and or Books.
The thing is ... Dogs practice this themselves with each other and all remains well between them. "Punishment" to them is not "bad" -- it's just another part aspect of COMMUNICATION. That's it! 😂
