UNBOXING BALL PYTHONS - NOT HAPPY 

I really don't know where to start with this comment. If he can't afford to feed the animals, he shouldn't have them. If he sells some, he can feed the others. As for profit, you can make a profit in this hobby at a certain stage, but that's the wrong reason to really get into it. 2014's under 400 grams... I don't know how to comment in any positive light. How much does he typically have to sell?

Kentuckiana Exotics on the amount he sells at the shows I'm unsure. The show coming up mid July will be my first time vending and theres a vendor dinner so maybe I can chat with him and get a feel for the type of person he is. He has quite a few animals on his MM so it's quite possible hes getting out and selling everything he has. I agree you dont get into this hobby to turn a buck, you get into it cuz of your passion. Maybe at one point it was maybe it wasnt sho knows. Hopefully I can get some more info on this guy at the next show.

It's my hope that his animals are healthy, and just mislabeled... at this point, dishonesty of age is the best hope. I would rather not hope that his care is so poor that they are abused. If that is the case though, and it is seen at a show, hopefully it is reported to the authorities, and measures are taken to rectify the situation.

Kentuckiana Exotics unfortunately they are not mislabeled. I inquired about a smaller animal also hatched out in 2014 a while back and he never corrected my questioning on the hatch year. And the weight was only a few grams heavier then on the post, that he had posted several months before. Unfortunately, in the reptile hobby or really any hobby where breeding animals takes place you will find breeders who are in it for the check at the end of the day. Pretty sure breeders out here know better than to get involved with this guy. Not much we can do besides complain to the ppl who run the shows to keep him from coming back. But without any proof of the conditions they are actually in not much else we can do. Just make sure to post on the FBI page on Facebook so others know to avoid him.

Kendra Westy more than that... Animal control, and other animal rights organizations, could be at the show

I couldn't believe they shipped in 40 degree (Fahrenheit) weather without a heat pack. I have a new person shipping me an animal this coming Tuesday. Now that the weather is hot, I am expecting a cool pack in the box, so that the snake doesn't fry. I talked to this keeper much more extensively since the last issues, and they seem to know what they are talking about. So sincerely hoping this unboxing goes much more smoothly. :)

Kentuckiana Exotics, have you ever delt with BHB Brian ? I'm really wanting to get my son a snake for his birthday in August. We dont have enough money to get an expensive morph but a regular ball python isn't so far fetched. I already have a setup. I had a speckled king snake name King Luey. But one of my son's friends wanted him more than us cause he ended up stealing him from us. When the kid got him with the snake. His momma freaked out and made him release him. I think I was more upset with that snake than any dog I have ever had. Now i love all animals except ANTS!!!! Thank you any help would be awesome.

I have talked very briefly with Barcyzk, and he was very easy to get along with. He knows his animals, and will leave you researching things you never thought about. As for the incident of having a snake taken and subsequently released, I hope you are in an area where the snake could thrive in the wild. I really am sorry to hear that though. Where are you located, in general terms? I may be able to suggest someone local to you to get a snake from.

Kentuckiana Exotics I live in Baton Rouge Louisiana. I caught the king in my yard. So he shouldn't have any problems in the wild. As far as the friend. Hes not aloud back to my house. Any info would be awesome. Any animal that comes into my house will be taken care of and loved. I would've never dreamed before I caught king Luey that I'd like a snake much less love a snake. My son has been upset ever since. I think it would be a great birthday present for him. Hes a straight a student and is wanting to be a zoologist. Anything that deals with animals. Thank you so much. I have subscribed to you and look forward in back tracking and watching all your videos.

Well, the only one I have read about in that neck of the woods would be in Kenner I believe. Which is just north of New Orleans. I think the company name was crazy 8balls, and she is rather new in the hobby as far as I have seen on Facebook. I can't really vouch for them, but given its not even an hour and a half drive for you, you could see the animals before picking them up. I am sure there are others, but none that I know much about. If you are thinking about getting one shipped ahead of time, that is definitely possible, and your options would open up of course to more paint jobs. Given you said you don't have too much to spend, you kind of are limited to morphs, given most shipping will be between 50 and 75, on top of the cost of the snake. If you want a classic normal ball python, they can go from 20 to 40 from most breeders though, so you could still be getting out under 100. when is his birthday?

Now that its warm, no heat pad or even a cool pack would be necessary, but it was needed in the cold. :/

I did to especially when he said it was cold!

My fiance did too. You can hear her get upset.

Kentuckiana Exotics this is why my fiance only feels safe ordering in warm weather. Not trying to say anything about you, they should have heat packs it's common sense.

Nicole Knight they should. But I get why your fiancee makes that decision. To warm and you need cool packs though, and that's an even bigger risk. So there are risks each way.

Kentuckiana Exotics true, but he looks up unboxings like this to see if they pack like they should. So this would really help, especially if you live in an area where it gets real cold or hot. Which those vans get super hot.

I am glad he does look all of them up! It's why I want to start doing better unboxing videos when I get babies in from different places. Gives people honest reviews up front. Hopefully, this will be the only negative review I ever do :) And I keep looking out for unboxing videos on me, but so far none have been made that I know of. If I find one, I will share it on my channel and Facebook so it's easier for people to find :)

Glad to see you taking the time to check it out. And I am so happy they made it. They are doing much better now!

I am glad they are in a much better place with you guys, that packaging was horrendously bad. I have never had snakes as pets but my father had an iguana when I was a child and you just learn that animals need specific conditions in order to survive.

@@KentuckianaExotics Yeah, I had to check before watching too... How are they now, have they gained some weight?

Lol read description usually helps 🙄

@@KentuckianaExotics we have a snake named aura with that horrible spider gene...she was a rescue from pet hell is what I call petsmart. Her head is wobbly but she's so happy now and is a trooper when eating. Though we can't give her live because she can't strike very well .-. Sadly.

Thank you! you and me both.

Thank you so much

I have been looking at a lot of stuff about ball pythons and I find this video helpful to know some people who I shouldn’t bye snakes from

Lisa Lynn money can be made. Thank you for that. Positivity is a wondrous thing

tasha 111 thank you! We did a couple updates on these babies. They are doing well. Both have she'd and are eating like champs.

Kentuckiana Exotics That's such great news!! I'll definitely be watching those asap!! Your wife and I gasped at the exact same time when you realized there were no heat packs shipped with them

I agree. I know there's a lot of people that have the "profit" mentality, and I get it. I just don't like it. They are doing much better now. They are actually approaching my breeder requirements, so I could do late pairings with them to prove them out. But I think I should give them the year off and wait till this winter to start pairing them for next year, just so I know they are good.

Kentuckiana Exotics saw the update on them and there coming on well I love my snakes and reptiles have done for 20 odd years so love seeing them in good homes massive thumbs up to you

Agreed. I have had ball pythons for 17 years, only been breeding for 3. But started with snakes when I was 6 with keeping native species of North Carolina where I grew up. If you aren't willing to keep them healthily, you shouldn't have them.

Thanks! People in this hobby tend to overlook many things chasing a dollar. half of my collection will never be bred, and the breeding I am doing is to get animals I want, and off set some of the price of food. So adding snakes to my collection that weren't what I ordered is okay by me as these babies are definitely doing well now. (They could even breed now actually, but I am waiting until next season just to let them have some time to relax before I start proving them out)

well said brother.. keep on doin what you do. takes a passion to do what you are doing

Thank you

Glad you are finding different species to learn about :) I don't think there are many animals on this planet I don't like to look at, though there are a few species I can't keep in my current location due to ordinances and other issues of course. Keep learning and when you are able to get one, get one that you know you will love!

Yeah, one of the snakes has put on almost 150 grams since being here. The other is growing a little slower, but is still growing as well. As for him and shipping, I am hearing a lot of negative things slowly. I can gladly say I am glad that your girl is in a better home though! What did you get from him?

I got 100% het pied 66% albino female...I actually got in a very heated argument with him. and reported him to morph market... I'm on the morph market and they will not tolerate that kind of service they will ban him form selling if they get enough complaints about him. Just look on the bright side , you rescued those animals, that's how I feel.

Yeah, I definitely feel like that. I just don't want to support his poor conditions with my money going forward. I hope your baby proves out :)

Bianca Hope they are our babies. You can't just fling them around.

Kentuckiana Exotics I have seen some people toss them around and be overal just rough, this was really nice ‘to see. Says a lot about an owner ☺️

Most people really do care about their animals (or atleast I really do hope so). I have seen people do the same, and they mean no harm, I just think people take the animals for granted at times because we know they are a hearty animal. People forgo kindness, for efficiency at times to produce a video. And it's my theory, that if I show the animals as they are, people will be able to relate to it more, so taking my time - and doing what I hope every responsible owner does when they aren't on a mission to make a video - will hopefully help me reach a larger audience in the long run. And hopefully, that reach will help spread the love of an amazing species of animals. :D

I tried to stay even kiltered. But there's certain things that life throws your way that can shake you to your bones. And my love of animals drives me to no end. Thank you for your words.

Natalia Davis definitely. I could pair them probably this year, but I feel a lot more comfortable with the idea of waiting til next year

Glad to hear your little one is doing well! These girls are both doing much better. We did an update video that should be tagged at the end of the video to explain the genetics, and update people on their progress :)

Thank you Kathyria! And I 100% agree. The care we give to our pets should be the #1 priority for any hobbyist, or business.

Yes especially if ur running a business people expect best quality especially if there spending so much money

Yeah, that was my thoughts... The 1500 - 1600 gram range would have been if he shipped them after having just laid eggs. I like to give some wiggle room for uncommon things. Also, thanks for the sub, you rock.

Thanks Amber :)

RIght? You would think it would be common sense. Winter = heat needed, summer = cold pack needed (so they don't cook)

Thanks for the sub! These babies are doing very well now! Both are feisty, both have amazing food responses. These babies will be here a long time :)

Much appreciated. Hope you're doing well in school As well

@@KentuckianaExotics Thank you so much dude! Have a great day!

You are more than welcome. I know I should have advocated the whole like, subscribe, notification thing, but on the flip side, I am not doing this channel to make millions off of youtube, so it just makes sense to give people the pertinent info.

Thespian thanks brother. Breeding may be a part of it, But my hobby is keeping animals that I love. Out of the ones I need this year, I have 0 clue what I will keep. Last year I held back a normal and sold everything else. It's all for the love of the babies.

I totally agree. In fact I've just start with keeping animals as well. So far I have a Ghost corn snake, a Normal Ball python, and a Leopard gecko. On Monday I'm going to be getting my first Boa Constrictor. I just started and I'm already so in love with it. Which is hilarious, considering I use to be terrified of snakes.

Thespian glad to hear your passion is growing! Just remember that I really did gamble when I got these two in and they were that cold. You really should quarantine when introducing new snakes to your collection. Especially across multiple species. An RI can spread, and get a ball python sick, and that same RI can kill a boa. So keep them in a separate area for about a month to ensure they aren't sick before putting them in the same room.

Thank you for the advice! I had no clue that I should do that. Would I be able to email you? I have some questions that I can't find the answer to online.

Thespian of course. I'm at work, so I will reply in depth after work tonight.

They have been with me about 6 months now and are up to pretty good weights finally. Keep researching all you can, cause I still learn new things all the time, and I love it

I am very happy they survived and are doing quite well now :) Thanks for your care!

Shipping is usually the same across the board. It's getting the next snakes that I want that will the issue lol

I discovered I lived within driving distance of BHB, after I got my only corn snake. Hope to get a ball python or a gecko from there one day.

They have been here for a bit over a year now, and I can say that I still love opening up both tubs. One girl is very defensive, and strikes often still, but the other is calming down and tolerates being handled occasionally with no real qualms.

I plan to post on these two girls a few times in the next couple months, just for all to see. I also have put him in the tags. Thank you for the suggestion.

don't purchase from him... I had the same problem... he should not even be allowed on morph market

CMC Reptiles. I had actually talked to the guys and gals at morph market...they are currently working on a breeder review system...they are trying to figure out a verified buyer system to prevent false reviews

This would totally be an awesome idea! Verifying is a good thing. It's why I decided to make unboxing videos for every snake, unedited. People see the good and the bad of everything.

good idea... I have talked to John about it also... not just the sellers you also need to watch out for buyers. I had a serious problem with a buyer just recently..

I do. If ever I am doing this and don't love the animals, I truly hope someone approaches me and reminds me of why I started this hobby. There could be millions, or I could lose money, and as long as my love of animals shines through, it is worth it.

unknown sorry to hear of the issues you had, but if a breeder can't answer questions within reason, you probably saved your self some hassle. Customer service and standing behind your product is a key part of every business that's successful.

I fully believe that I did. And I am happy to say they are doing much better.

Thanks Elijah! and they are doing much better now! both are about up to breeding size, but I wont start pairing till close to Dec. to give them a bit more time to relax :)

Thank you! They are doing much better now. Both are up to breeding size, though I am waiting until next season just to give them a bit longer to relax.

Yup. I'm glad to have them. I am going to be proving them out one way or the other this coming season. And they won't be going anywhere.

@@KentuckianaExotics Very Nice!!!!

Thank you for the kind words. My animals are my family that I chose to have around me, and treating them as inanimate objects is now how I would wish to treat them. As for the genetics, neither of them was actually the right snakes that I ordered, however I am completely happy to have them in my care. The second one is a normal, potentially het pied. The first does have pastel and kalabash reduction gene, and potentially is heterozygous for pied as well, but until I decide to breed them, this is just a hope as that was what I was trying to order. I hope you are well, and that you enjoy the channel and any content already out or that is to come.

Balinda Hymen I agree. And thank you. I broke quarantine protocols here to put them on ready heat. I didn't wait a week to feed. I changed everything I do for those babies. We got another snake today, and the video should go up tomorrow. Much better conditions. It is why I decided to one take all UNBOXING videos. People see what I see, and can make educated decisions.

Kentuckiana Exotics Thank you for for the response, I now have y'al on my list! I'll be watching for new posts. I could see and hear the pain you feel for those critters! God bless y'all! Y'all all will be in me prayers an will be watching for updates! 😀

And may you be blessed as well!

Do you have a copy of the ad on Morph Market or anything that says what they weigh. I would file a claim with Paypal...

I didn't copy the ad, never had this kind of issue before to think like that. However I don't wish to file a claim on Paypal, given I might have to send the snakes back, as I think they have a better home now. As for the weights, I currently am putting them on a 5 day eating rotation with my juveniles. Once they have eaten 10 meals or so, I will put them on the weekly rotation. But looking at his page closer now, almost all of his snakes seem underweight. I don't know if he is lying about the ages, or if they are all emaciated like the ones I received.

I looked at his MorphMarket ad and I wouldn't buy from him if it saved my life. He has snakes that are 2012 weighing 800g. He breeds for money obviously and saves money by providing the absolute minimums. Piece of crap IMO... If it was one or 2 fussy feeders than that's one thing but almost every animal he has listed (all 127 of them) are underfed. There is 0 reason for a 2 year old ball to be under 1000 grams unless it was a rescue or 12g at birth.

Exactly right... I don't think he is listing their true ages, and is still underfeeding. I sincerely hope the rest of that collection is healthy. I wish I knew someone in the local area that could go check for me.

Blackside Ball Pythonsy 3 year old girl weights anout 950 but she also gave birth like 2 weeks ago. It's sad to not feed your animals especially ones that eat like once a week. It not a 💯 commitment. So sad

Greg Del Bene thank you. yes, they live in the rack system. As to what I do with them, I love getting them out and about. I live by a good sized park, and I really enjoy walking around it with snakes around me. I get to educate people about them, and show people not all snakes are aggressive much less dangerous. I also love letting them roam the snake room from time to time. I also of course make videos about them as I breed them.

I have had a mixed review on the unboxing, and I love that you took the time to post. They are off of paper towels finally, I haven't seen a single mite, and use prevent-o-mite, so was finally okay putting them on cocofiberous bedding. Heat/cold - Yeah, cooked snakes is always a worry. And I would rather go cooler than warmer on a trip, so long as it doesn't pose health risks like with all the snow we were having. The finances of it all - I am not nearly a huge breeder, so I can only go off my numbers that I have here, but you are right in thinking he probably put more into them than he sold them for. 4 years old, say a meal every 2 weeks on average (keeping nice numbers here) is about 100 rats in each snake. Average rat about $2.50 would be $250 in. Oddly, the visual genetics aren't what I ordered, so I have 0 idea about the "het" until I breed them out, but he definitely took losses. The first snake has more visual mutations than I bought, and the second was a normal. The next update on these snakes will go into that though. As I have said in other comments, I do not wish him ill in any manner. I hope he is just new to ball pythons and is learning, and his knowledge grows.

Thank you Chris, nice to see some common sense in these emotion based comments. I live in AZ and often times when shipping to say WI for example by the time it was warm enough to ship there it was getting to be in the mid 90s here and while a heat pack would have maybe helped on that end I needed a cooling pack on my end. These people commenting are kids, they don't remember buying imported ball pythons that wouldn't eat for 6-12 months at a time if ever. I think this dude got a great deal on a pair of het females and he's still unhappy and talking about buying from BHB which anybody that was in this hobby 20 years ago knows better than to do.

Exactly Chris!....And Zero😉

@@ZeroEntropy. whats wrong with BHB? Just curious

@@DizzleMCSTANG88 The only snakes I've ever gotten with parasites were from him. This was 20 years ago, he's a great RU-vidr if you love click bait and hyperbole but he's never been a great snake breeder. I would NEVER purchase a snake from him or his collection, not the quality or him or his wife as people. They also buy from a lot of other people to resell, that's fine but you never know the genetics or quality you're getting.

Same, that is why I posted it. Lets people know what to avoid. They are doing much better now :)

Emily Click yeah, but instead I just consider then part of the family. I love them no matter how many times they bite me lol.

Kentuckiana Exotics. All of my animals are my babies. I couldn't imagine not having them. Koda (male normal ball) accidentally hit me with his teeth a few days ago when he aimed wrong at his food. It wasn't an actual bite, it was more he brushed his teeth across my finger only make tiny scratches.

These girls are definitely not used to being handled like I do with my babies. But I agree, your animals should be part of the family, just like a family dog.

Contact Snake Discovery....I think she received snakes from the same place.

@@creationsbyleatrice9395 I'm happy to hear he uses cold packs when it's hot. Snakes can cook fast in the heat. And if you order these shipping packs, they come with both heat and cold packs both so you can use what's needed

Oh they are doing fantastic now :)

They are doing well now. They are eating like champs, and I love them both :)

I have been thinking about hitting up Brian for a few of the "bigger" combos that I am going to want. I know his reputation quite well :) I even thought about taking a drive up to pick one up when I do decide to purchase one.

I wouldn't recommend him either he sent me unheated, cold snake as well.

I don't know about the snakes but i have gotten my leopard geckos from him and they were packed right,they told me when they were shipping and everything. My experience was pretty good. It upsets me though that he would ship with out heat packs.

I am glad to hear you had a positive experience! I have read and seen many mixed reviews at this point, and I am kind of at a loss as to why there is such a huge variance from the same keeper. That said, I don't wish him ill, I just wish his animals well. I don't yet have leopard geckos, however I think I may get a couple in the future as pets only. I kind of want a large collection with a lot of variety once I move and am able to house the expansion I am wanting :) But that will be a good bit in the future.

RJ they are well on their way to good weights. They eat like champs. Their ribs are covered, their tails aren't sucked in. I'm much happier now :)

They are considerably better. Their weights are up, they are feisty. As for proving out, I'm confident they will not prove to be what I ordered, but they have forever homes now.

I haven't heard of him, I will definitely check him out!

Kentuckiana Exotics The website is www.reptilerapture.net. They’re also on RU-vid. I bought a tortoise from them back in November of 2013 and he’s still going strong. ☺️

I have ordered from multiple places. Garrick Demeyer, c serpents, Memphis reptiles, and others, and all had been amazing. And I would suggest them in a heart beat. This was my first unboxing after making the channel, and it had been my only negative experience.

I'm so glad you were able to save one of them! And provent-o-mite is part of my cleaning routine. You can never be too safe.

I agree. How are yours doing? Hope you were able to get them up to weight.

@@xRipperx619 yeah, took a while but I got them healthy

Awesome, glad you were able to get them back up to strength.

You and me both! I love snakes, and have a rather good collection of just plain normals even, and I hate to see any in that condition.

Rickys Half yeah. Some make it If they get deep enough to stay warm enough.

We did an update on them semi recently. Second one is just a normal, as for any hidden heterozygous genes, we will see in the future. The first one is a pastel kalabash, possibly het pied. (May also have enchi in him, but hard to tell with the KRG) Glad to hear your first has done so well for you. My first is 17 years old, and until a few years ago, I had never bred for myself. Now that I have and am starting to grow, I wanted to share my journey with others :) Hope you and yours are well, and hope you keep up the great work with your animals as well. Will

Thank you for your kind words. They are doing pretty well, and I am honestly excited to have them.

Mike K his remarks to me were Lee's than kind, and they do not need to hit a public forum where kids visit

We have to love our babies :) what would be the point in having them if you aren't going to love and care for them?

MachoDingus first off, I'm happy you got a baby. Weight ranges, it can vary based on how big they hatched. I have hatched babies as small as 28 grams, and as heavy as 94 grams. If they average 60 grams, at 3 months You should be looking at about 100 gram range plus or minus given eating habits and other factors.

MachoDingus as for lengths, I never measure that really. I worry that they eat, and they shed proper. Everything else can take it's time. As for sexing a snake, you can do that once they are out of the egg. You just have to be careful not to damage the sex organs. I only teach people to do that in person so I canensure a snakes safety.

You have to love your babies. They are doing much better now :) Hope you are doing good too

Also thank you for your support. I haven't made much comment as of late due to some time restrictions, but I should be back up and running soon

Given how he has comported himself, I wont know if they are het until I breed them, but definitely a live and learn experience. Thanks for the well wishes and the sub! hope you and yours are well!

Thanks you Tatts! They are a permanent addition to my collection :)

Kentuckiana Exotics awesone I want to get one

bob dole congrats on your baby doing well. I hope they give you the happiness mine do me!

got to the part were you say "this was supposed to be" haha hope they prove out for ya!

sal Bellantoni yeah, second one is a normal hopefully het pied. First is a pastel KRG poss Enchi, poss het pied. I did an update video on them, after talking with people who could help me identify the first one. I knew I was seeing something odd, but didn't know what it was. I will pair them both to a pied male next year to prove them out one way or the other.

Pastels lose the yellow as they age. Just so you all know.

No pastel don't lose their color they brown out but you can still tell they are pastels second snake looks to be a normal

It isn't. It may have fire, as the head does have a slight stamp, but I am just hoping it's het pied at this point. The first one he was wrong on too. It does have pastel, but it also has another gene that he didn't claim that I am more than happy with ;)

The second is a normal.

Annie Sasin As an owner of both normal and pastel I wholeheartedly concur!

Definitely glad to here you are happy with your babies. Ben was a great guy, and an inspiration within the reptile community for sure! I will more than likely end up getting a snake from Renick Reptiles in the future, but I want to get snakes from many many sources, to help smaller people get reviewed, to help new buyers know whom they can trust, and more. So far, this was the only bad review I have ever done, so I am hoping it stays that way :)

I am glad to hear you find beauty in them! When you are ready to get one, feel free to email me, and I will be more than willing to help you figure out what you want, and point you in the right direction to find the one you can call a pet forever :)

Kentuckiana Exotics thank you for responding. It's most likely going to be a couple years at least, and i'm from the netherlands, so options might be different here. I already have an idea of what i like, though once i'm ready i'll do more research and decide what'd be best for my situation at that time. I want to give the animal i get the best life possible :) I've been in love with snakes since i was a little girl. I could very well imagine myself getting obsessed when i start, haha.

oh it is so addicting! As for the legality in the netherlands, there will be animals that you can have for sure, but learning everything you can ahead of time is always great!

Kentuckiana Exotics oh yes, there are definately animals available here. I've already found some breeders, actually. I was thinking of starting with (a) garter snake(s), because i like their requirements and activity. I've seen mixed advise on their difficulty though. Would you think they would be okay as a first time snake? If not i might get a ball python instead.

》Tessa 《 so I grew up handling them from the wild as they are native to where I lived as a kid. They are amazing, they are very well adaptive to their environments. They are a bit more nippy, but if you were small and anything could be a predator, you would be too. The bites don't hurt, so it's kind of up to your level of comfort. Balls are always an easy first snake though. So if you aren't sure, they could be a better introduction to snakes. Both are beautiful though, and either could make amazing pets.

I have definitely learned a good bit from the experience. And I debated whether to release the video, and after talking to Matt from Olympus, finally decided to. Thank you for the well wishes bro. Hope you and yours are great!

V1per V1R0S we got then on heat faster than I ever have, they fed day two, but I didn't want to feed day one of arrival. But weight is always done when I unbox. Gives me a start point for my records.

That would have them go into shock and die. It's like putting a human who has hypothermia into warmth. They can die

So they are healthy, both are close to 1800 and 1900 grams. I haven't bred them yet, I wanted to give them extra time before their bodies went through that, to give them the best chances at remaining healthy throughout the process. So not sure about the het pied part yet. But to this day neither of them really like to be handled much, but they don't strike at me as soon as I open their tubs like they used to.

Thanks brother. The second is a normal, and honestly, I am still glad to have her in my collection. They are still beautiful animals, and I wouldn't let them go for anything. Looking back with logic, and how they have grown since, I am rather sure the second one was shipped after having laid a clutch of eggs. It would explain the tail suck and the ridge of her spine easily, and given neither of the snakes are what I ordered, I don't think the age is right for the first girl either, so the slow feeding may not have been as bad as I first thought. So hopefully they weren't neglected too bad. Thank you for the well wishes, I don't know if you have a channel on here, or a facebook, but given your name and comment, I am going to assume you breed. I am getting married tomorrow, so I dont have a lot of time on here tonight to check you out, but leave me another message so I can check you out when I have more time :)

Yes, they are doing quite well, and they are slowly becoming more accustomed to being handled. Their weights are much better, and they have neither turned down a meal yet. If I would have let them stay on the accelerated feeding schedule, they would not have minded in the least I dont think, though I don't want them obese so I couldn't keep that up lol.

Yeah, you don't have to power feed them to pass those weights in two years. I am glad your girl is doing well :)

I am about 15 minutes outside of Louisville

By the way, I just liked, and subscribed to you.

Thanks bro! much appreciated! And yeah, his weights are way off. One of the girls has already put on over 100 grams. The other one is doing well too, but a little slower to gain weight. I am planning on doing an update video on Tuesday I think.

I saw some of "Tropical Tom's" snakes on Morph Market 3 or 4 months ago. I couldn't believe the weights they were posting for their snakes. I thought maybe they goofed somehow. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be a goof. I'm letting everyone I can think of on RU-vid know about the situation. Maybe someone like Brian Barczyk or Brian Kusko can do something about it. Thanks for posting this video!!

That's why I decided to post the video unedited. I talked to the guys at olympus, and after a bit of a conversation, I decided to be completely transparent on my channel. This way, future buyers will be able to find the video and make an informed decision. If it is warm, heat packs aren't needed for instance. So they can take that into account. And the weights... again they get to make Informed decisions.

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Normally I would, but my quarantine setup wasn't up to heat (I only plug it in when I get an animal in as I don't get new babies to quarantine very often), and given they were shipped in the cold without heat packs, I wanted to get them directly onto heat to start warming up. This is not a practice I really would ever advocate unless there are circumstances that dictate breaking out of the norm. That said, the tubs they went into didn't have any bedding, I do use provent-o-mite, so my main worry wasn't mites. It would be a fungal or bacterial RI spreading to my other babies. And I was very vigilant keeping an eye out for any signs from any of the snakes. Now I have changed my procedure when getting in new babies going forward, I am going to be turning on my quarantine heat the day before I get snakes in. It doesn't usually take more than an hour to be where I want it, but that advance will prevent me from having these same issues in the future if they ever arise again. I hope you are well :)

The Genetic Hunters hey bros. Yeah but at the same time I learned a lot to take into the future. I got two snakes that I now love. And quite frankly, it will help others out going forward.

Yeah, I think the first is a Pastel KRG. The second one is a normal I agree. Hopefully either or both are actually het pied at least, but I am not counting on it.

A good majority of them are quite okay with being handled often. There are some that aren't, but they are fewer. If you get them young, and work with them, they really do make wonderful pets. Things to note about handling snakes: Do NOT handle them the day you are going to feed them. Don't handle them much the day after you feed them. Snakes feel most vulnerable when they have recently eaten due to the fact that they cant move like normal. So a bit of a "break" before and after feeding is usually suggested. If you are considering getting a ball python, get the setup up and running ahead of time. Make sure the temperatures and humidity are good ahead of time. Take your time and find one that you absolutely find gorgeous. Classic/Normals are how most people start keeping them, but if there is a morph you like, find the most beautiful version of it you can. Also, put money back for vet bills. Hopefully, you will never need it, but just in case funds are a great idea ahead of time. Forums are a great place to get ideas of anything wrong, however no one knows every thing that can go wrong, and being able to afford tests and medicines is always advised, even with cats and dogs and any other creatures you decide to take care of. That said, they are amazingly hardy animals that are worth keeping. I am glad you are considering getting one, and I wish you true joy while keeping them.

Kentuckiana Exotics ok! Thanks for replying

Jesse W. Thank you for the will wishes. I am more than happy to have them still as they are both probably going to be permanent additions to the family.

Thanks for the sub Erica, They are doing pretty awesome now, they are almost up to breeding weight, but I am giving them until next season just to make sure they are okay. As for people trying to turn them into a pay check, it happens, all we can do is educate people, and hope they have good teachers who care.

Like from Mass breeders and through the mail?

I am going to try feeding them tomorrow. I normally wait a week for snakes to settle in before attempting feedings, however I decided that I want to try early. As for good sellers on MorphMarket, there are a good number of them! This has been my first negative encounter, and hopefully the last!

They are both growing like wildfire!