This video is the unboxing of the amazing Gryphon Apex Amplifier at the Command Performance Experience Center in Falls Chruch, VA. Please enjoy. Don't forget to like and subscribe. Thanks for watching!
I listened to the Apex with a pair of 80,000 dollar Wilsons. Seriously folks, there is a significant law of diminishing return. Not remotely better than a system costing 1/10th the cost.
Ive got a system consisting of used speakers that cost £75, a free 30 year old Harman Kardon amp, a £25 pre amp and a used technics turntable that cost me £150 to service, and in the space I have to use it, it sounds wonderful. Gives me about 200 grand spare to buy another house.
We all have different priorities and dreams in life and different budgets. That's the beauty of life and there's nothing wrong with any of them. I loved my first budget systems too, but there is no comparison in ANY shape or form to my current 100K stereo/cinema system. On a budget I listened to music, with hi end I experience music. It's like every time I play music I'm sitting in the front row at a concert. Stunning berillium resolution, instrument seperation, sense of space and low 19htz bass. Some of my cds I've known very well for over 30 years, but only now I can hear for the first time sound frequencies which were not possible to reproduce before.
@robotstonka7118 each to his own man, but would be a complete waste on my dodgy ears. Constant tinnitus in both sides and several frequencies missing. Enjoy your passion, if it sounds good to you, that's all that matters.
No white gloves on this one because of the weight and size. One person (not at our store) had a finger crushed because of a slip. We thoroughly cleaned the unit afterwards.
We have not posted on the sound because we did not want to make this to create a lot of flames from haters or make this into a pure sales pitch. I can say that I absolutely love the sound, but of course, that is my opinion and what matters most is each listener's preference. I encourage people to visit their local Gryphon dealer and judge for themselves.
I was thinking of getting one of those, but I have a pair of Bose 301’s and I hear those can be power hungry. Can that amp be bridged so I can get a pair of them? I would hate to under-drive my speakers.
I have to much, but it’s still not enough. I need this Gryphon. Beyond ridiculous for more than the obvious. Why did you edit out removing the plastic slide sheet from under the amp? Crazy unboxing that ludicrous beast next to those Rockports. I guess I’ll wait until the next Black Friday or Open Box to get a deal. I have a Parasound, will you take a trade in? ☮️
In general for high tech product development, it would have to also consider minimizing the product footprint, weight, complexity and cost of material AT THE SAME TIME achieving the best performance (in this cast best Sound Quality) -- that would be the real value of a great product. What Gryphon did is just apart of it -- trying to achieve SQ without any constraint (some beyond reasonable limits for general usage). I would give it a fail grade as far as product development is concern.
Think about this: who are the consumers of these expensive gears? Most of them are aged audiophiles -- no matter how they love this and can afford it and have a mansion to put it , they will have to move this heavy iron and to consider if its physical size and dark color is intrusive to their high style living kingdom. So many times I was thinking about get one of these but abandoned the idea after considering their weights! In this case why not break it into two monos since it is a dual mono with two power cords anyway? What is Gryphon thinking?
Why. At 210 WPC it should run on any 15 amp 120 v breaker. Hell, one of my vintage receivers puts out 330 watts per channel and does fine blasting loudly on a 15 amp breaker.
@@roylcraft @AudioGuyBrian power requirement wise it’s an apples and oranges comparison. This is a class A amplifier which means it’s not very power inefficient. Not sure which “old Carver amp” you’re referring to but many of them had switch mode power supplies so even more of apples and oranges in that respect. Given the power supply and the output design It consequently inherently generates a lot of heat in the form of wasted power so it needs a substantial amount of heat sink surface. Is this thing practical? Well, it’s as practical as a McLaren or Koenigsegg or Aston Martin automobile for daily driving but you don’t buy those to get groceries or take the kids to the pool, you buy them to make a statement. This amp is a statement piece so just accept it as such.
Construction majority made from extruded heat sink is dirt cheap as compared with Dan Agostino, Milled from solid blocks of aluminium and integrated seamlessly with copper heat sink.
Why do you feel this way? What makes it different from the other amplifiers out there. I'm thinking of buying one having owned Macintosh monos 611. I have another room I need to set up.
So funny. While we appreciate how small and powerful modern computers and smartphones are others seem to think bigger equals better 😂. I guess a smaller component makes it harder to justify the outrages price tag.
If you don't wanna post information on the sound, fine. But maybe post some information on why someone might benefit from such a massive amplifier and how the sound may differ from lesser amplifiers.
@@ljuboizsiska5448 I've heard CH Precision (P1, L1, and M 1.1 monos) and Audionet products (the G2 and the Max) head to head in extensive comparisons and it wasn't even close. The CH stuff had the same amount of detail with more realistic tonal colors, better micro's and macro's, more realistic textures, better sense of scale, a better grip on the bass, and better imaging. The AudioNet had better transit speed and far better attack that gave it the appearance of more speed, but at the expense of a shorter sustain and decay.
@@maxwired2235 And one day when you become an adult and have a chance to listen to a well set up system using over familiar recordings in a familiar or home environment get back to me. But to give some edification for your meager mind, the human ear/brain becomes as well educated with long experience just as your hand has become educated with your genitals. Or for those who have accomplished something in their lives, as any muscle memory ingrained basketball player does a drop step without thought.
The question one may ask is what is the most ridiculous : the weight, the size or the price of this thing ? May be all ?… Sure you’ll get same (or perhaps better…) audio quality for a lot lighter, smaller and… cheaper unit !
That is a big amp. What is the output into 8 ohms. Being that big I would expect at least 5,000 watts per channel. I have an amp that puts out 2,400 watts per channel and its only 1/3 that size.
Pure Class A my friend. Wouldn't be anywhere near 5000w per. All the weight would be in the toroidal X 2 (if that's what they use) dual or perhaps quadruple winding power supply to sustain class A operation. Look at the heatsinks
Audiofoolery. This doesn't come close to a Benchmark's measurable performance, and even a Purifi module will run circles around it, for a fraction of the cost.
Hello Paolo. Gryphon does makes Monoblocks. Building the Apex amp in two chassis would dive up the cost and only be minimum smaller. That would also require 4 power cords VS. 2.
@@commandperformanceav Each monoblock would be substantially smaller, for obvious reasons. There would also only be one power cable per chassis, since this stereo chassis only has two. Not sure why you think with half the power output, each monoblock would need two power cables.
Aggggh ... why aren't they wearing white cotton gloves rather than leaving greasy fingerprints all over it. It's pretty basic stuff when handling hifi , speakers tv etc.
Thanks for not showing the hard part. That of how you strained to remove the green mat from under the amp. To all the naysayers, just because some amps may have newer or more innovative technology doesn't mean that older technologies, when well applied and designed, doesn't match or exceed any newer tech.
@@aspjake123 Of Gryphon? Hardly. Listen to the video and you'll hear that Gryphon doesn't use new tech. A hater of new tech? Hardly. I think the CH Precision stuff is an easy match for anything Gryphon produces, and their tech is fairly innovative.
I listened to some amps from this company. *NEVER* liked them or their sound signature. To my ears the D'Agostino or DartZeel are *MILES* better in musical enjoyment. Heck, I listened to sub 10k valve amps that I would much rather have than any Gryphon amps.
@YourChildrensGhost Agreed. These amps cater to those who have nothing better to spend their money on. Just a luxury, no actual benefit other than bragging rights.
I cannot say anything other then Gryphon is really hyped. Nothing is special in the technical department, chassis or whatever. There is also tests that shows that it cannot come up to the ultimate class like Jeff Rowland and Boulder. Despite the price is in the same league. We know it that both Boulder and Jeff Rowland has unique tech and even chassis that are machined to avvoid resonance.
@@henriksrensen3220 first if I was going to buy an amplifier in that cathegory I would choose from Pass Lab or D`Agostino they ar made from legends in the business. If you should go next level I would look at those brands that takes it a step further with even more sophisticated technology. There are unfortunately some that believe more expensive is better.....
@@henriksrensen3220 BTW there is a really good comparison between Boulder and Gryphon here at RU-vid you could easy listen to them both A/B tested and you will hear what I am talking about. The Gryphon has lack of 3 dimensionality and does not reproduce the absence of the room within the record. Just listen to it and I am sorry to say, for me it is no match.
@@olejohnnyprestbakken1145 I have listened to pass labs integrated amplifiers. I have also listened to Luxman and accuphase. The gryphon Diablo 120 is the best of them all. To me there is no match
Wow 😲😲😲 you don't see that beast everyday. It a magnificent beauty and the beast 😍. Definitely it a dream to own them. I can't afford it, may I ask...how much in US currency?
I think it's around $100,000. Problem is there are so many other very good amp solutions that are much cheaper. If you don't need 100 w class A and maybe can live with 30W class A the solutions I think become much much cheaper. Even the Schitt Tyr at $3200 is supposed to be pretty good for the penny pinchers out there.
@@gzubeck3 thanks for your useful advice. Now, I have Vitus SL 103 preamplifier and sm 103 mono blocks, what is your up opinion s and down side opinions? Thanks
@@jackhuang1434 If you already own them and they play nice with your speakers then keep them. I went out and found a youtube demo and they sound completely clean and Neutral. There is a sweetspot for listening volumes and if you don't need more power you could be wasting dollars. If you have really demanding speakers (Low DB) then something like the Gryphon might be a solution if you have the money to spend.
