Undercover Pastor: Pt 3 The Elder Board 

Just came from the war joke on essential oils

@@darkincognito3826 I didn't get what you meant earlier. Now I do.😂

Must admit, I initially heard that line as "snake oil", and am still siding with my first impression.

I attended a service in 2013 that offered gluten-free communion and I was a little shocked. But, later I thought there may be a medical need for it... Unfortunately, it just sounds so "trendy;" alas, all who need it should have it. Why aren't all communion wafers or elements gluten-free?

@@Arp477 why?

Absolutely nailed this.

Have you seen him in the "Sponsor a Millennial" video? Brilliant!

@@laurabaylessjohnson6749 i've seen it but i'll have to watch it again. Thanks!

"The Dan Marino of Pastors" !!!!!

There were no actors involved in this. Lol

🤣. So horrible it is funny.

Lolol

Prots trying to snag dem Catholics lmao

So true, mega church model 101

This was said in the video 😭😭

Yeah!!😂

The excessive zooming they "modelled" after Indian cinemas. Well done I must say 😂

@@emmanuel5566 I see what you did there 😂😂😂😂

That line about stealing I didn't find correct at all. I'd call it copying, and we shouldn't do something just because others are doing it. But its not stealing. Quite a reach there.

Isn't it still a sin?

Kinda sad

Only mega churches and new age churches. Most new age churches are straying away from God's message and making their own. Now im not implying our little southern Baptist is perfect and without flaws but its a far cry from these new ones. I went to a mega church that held over a thousand people, it was used for my daughters ballet recital. My first thought was "how could you know everyone here"? You can't! I like fellowshiping with everyone in my congregation and you just can't Have that at these kind

Hahaha sadly…

Every time I see that this is accurate I’m so shocked

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Seriously. It was funny until the pastor's wife on the payroll and selling essential oil bit. That was WAY too close to home.

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Check out the Lutheran Church- Missouri Synod

Same!!!

orthodox church

same as you , i m 27 but i m romanian, orthodox churches here are literaly the polar oposite of all of the weird mega churches you have there in murica

Lutheran Church mostly has hymns. Other confessional Lutherans like ELS and AALC will also have proper worship music, real communion, no fog machines and good sermons.

That is a great comment. We all just want to be loved, genuinely cared for and truth to be spoken. Bells and whistles not needed. Authenticity appreciated.

From the mouth of babes... Very intelligent!

Best RU-vid comment today

In the end, the modern American 21st century church will always disappoint because it's still so far away from what the church actually was in the Bible. If you continue to try to find hope in the modern church and its leaders, you will continue to be disappointed.

i agree but i feel like most teenagers who want smoke machines and lights or its a big deal are those who just want to go to church to have fun not to hear the word of God. and no we shouldnt sacrifice quality of spreading the gospel/teaching so we get to have some extra fun

Apparently true for a huge multi-site church near us. The web site says not one word about the pastor’s own education. It’s a mystery.

I felt that one

Who’s Dan Marino? Pardon my ignorance

@@thewizard-edits The best American Football quarterback who has never won the championship.

As a Dolphins fan, that hurt

Ouch! Dan Marino is awesome!

We have one called that too!

That was the colloquial name of one church in our area for so long that eventually they adopted it as their name. It literally was on a big hill.

I know a church called “church on the hill” as well lol

same

There are theologically accurate new songs as well. Check out Cityalight, Sovereign Grace Music, Indelible Grace Music, Glen Packiam.

@@michaelwhite775 Never heard of them. I'm might check them out. Thank you.

@@michaelwhite775 LOL. What songs do they sing as powerful as My God and I, In The Garden, It Is Well With My Soul, Heaven Came Down, How Great Thou Art? Do you like them because they throw in a 4th chord and only repeat the chorus 12 times instead of 16? I call modern "praise" songs "tuneless diddies".

@@harrywinslow3946 how about do some research. Look at these newer bands and the music they sing and you will see they are just as theologically accurate. These are the lyrics to one of there songs. What gift of grace is Jesus my redeemer There is no more for heaven now to give He is my joy, my righteousness, and freedom My steadfast love, my deep and boundless peace To this I hold, my hope is only Jesus For my life is wholly bound to His Oh how strange and divine, I can sing, "All is mine" Yet not I, but through Christ in me The night is dark but I am not forsaken For by my side, the Saviour He will stay I labour on in weakness and rejoicing For in my need, His power is displayed To this I hold, my Shepherd will defend me Through the deepest valley He will lead Oh the night has been won, and I shall overcome Yet not I, but through Christ in me No fate I dread, I know I am forgiven The future sure, the price it has been paid For Jesus bled and suffered for my pardon And He was raised to overthrow the grave To this I hold, my sin has been defeated Jesus now and ever is my plea Oh the chains are released, I can sing, "I am free" Yet not I, but through Christ in me With every breath I long to follow Jesus For He has said that He will bring me home And day by day I know He will renew me Until I stand with joy before the throne To this I hold, my hope is only Jesus All the glory evermore to Him When the race is complete, still my lips shall repeat Yet not I, but through Christ in me To this I hold, my hope is only Jesus All the glory evermore to Him When the race is complete, still my lips shall repeat Yet not I, but through Christ in me When the race is complete, still my lips shall repeat Yet not I, but through Christ in me Yet not I, but through Christ in me Yet not I, but through Christ in me

Go to an Episcopal church!

Really? I thought the same thing!

Ehh, I'm just not seeing it. If I squint my eyes- maybe.

I’m confused.. are you against him.

What's that? All white people look the same to you?!?!? Oh yeah thats not racist now..... ;)

@@robmc120 Why did you have to bring race into this?

I know right? As though you can't see that it's still the Pastor

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We need to know what happens next

Second this

If it were truly Netflix we could have binge watched the whole thing by now.

He is also in John’s video about sponsoring a millennial. Loved him.

I was wondering this too! He was perfect!!

It’s his dad lol. He is a pastor and former politician. So yeah, broadcasting voice 😂 At least I think it is, I watched a campaign video of his here on RU-vid and it looks and sounds like him haha

I’m pretty sure it’s John’s dad. He’s great!

He's amazing. Incredible acting chops.

In a biblically sound church, that would be the elders firing the pastor.

Imagine the apostles firing Jesus xD But the pastor is not Jesus. How to know if he's wrong or if the elder are wrong in firing him? In the Catholic Church, we have many problems, but this we don't. We have what is called apostolic succession. Meaning that once you're blessed and chosen (ordained) by God through the Bishops hands, you are the priest(=spiritual father) . Your spiritual children (=elders) can't decide that you're not their father anymore. If you make mistakes, only those who are in a higher position can impose disciplinary measures. The Church is not a democracy. Let me know if that makes sense or where you don't agree. I'm interested to hear your thoughts. Have a blessed day

@@danielalovejesus7912 well thought out Daniela. I didn't know there were Elders in Catholicism. May I ask what purpose elders serve with the hierarchy Catholicism has.

@@armouredryan thanks for your interest. I didn't put it well here. What I was trying to say was that elders in a free church can be compared to your spiritual children. You as a pastor are responsible for teaching the whole congregation right. If the same congregation can decide that you're doing your job poorly, two roles are being mixed. The one of being an elder and being a spiritual child. In the catholic church we don't have this problem because we don't have congregation members who are elders. Instead, we have spiritual children (church members) of the priest and a spiritual father of the priest, which is the bishop. Does it make more sense now?

@@danielalovejesus7912 Yes, thanks

Idk what the deal about gluten free communion is. There’s a kid my age in the youth group who has celiac so makes sense to me

Of course!

Make some frankincense and myrrh infused oils and remind yourself of grandma's funeral wherever you go!

Makes sense unless you belong to a church who believes communion becomes the real body and blood.

@@drawingdragons4097 you are right or course. It is just funny when it is a selling point. Like a person would go there “just” because they offer gluten free.

I hear that they are alive with the sound of music

*Hillz

JESUS CHRIST LOVES you! Tuen to HIM

Haha this is amazing

Yeah I don't know about you but I'm going to go over the hills and far away.

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Isn’t that true? All the pastors wives doing that at my church! 🤦🏻‍♀️😆

Or maybe they all learned that God has suddenly open a new door of opportunity as he has closed the previous door right behind them.

That would be me, lol.

🙏Ruh-roh!! 🙏🙅💬😕

I thought he was the worship leader???

@@heatherfeather7199 he is

I'm curious if he said the actual word

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I was laughing so hard that one I couldn’t breathe 🤣🤣🤣

Haya

Love it!!

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How much longer can you wait?

@@kingtut4734 Apparently forever....as it would seem John abandoned this project after 3 episodes.

Yes he should do the coffee/book shop undercover. Lol

Nope. He will probably do a fourth episode with the reactions of the three

@@zekrom916 I hope so!!

There will be a new church they talk about

Gotta hit the “satellite” campus, every mega biz church has one.

Do you think he's going to hand out $25,000 to each of these guys? I think it's over.

Atlanta you didn't curse outloud

I think in every church! Especially the part about the older people giving money and the younger people are their target lol

And “what’s good church fam?”

Join the catholic church

. I agree as well . My family loves traditional church . I wanna go to a church that teaches truth, gets your attention, makes you focused and not bored .

Sorry, could you define traditional church? You mean a capella music and that sort of stuff (basically a Church of Christ, I guess)

Turlock!? I lived in Sonora, CA for some years. Not too many people know of Turlock.

This church was ridiculous tho, and the pastor had a wife and kids? (I know that it isnt real but idk)

Someone else said that this is John's actual father, that he is a pastor and used to be a politician. 🤷🏾‍♀️

None of the above.