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Elder Dallin H. Oaks converses with a group of seminary students about how to understand the book of Isaiah. (3:03)

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Комментарии : 30   
@michaelmichaelc1748
@michaelmichaelc1748 Год назад
The Book of Mormon Institute Manual explanations of Isaiah are so good. When l read the commentaries and explanations of Isaiah there it was the first time really that l began to understand what he was saying.
@effervescentrelief
@effervescentrelief 4 месяца назад
One of the keys to Isaiah is learning the history of the time, the politics, and players involved, and then how they apply to our modern day. All of it has double meaning, as the prophecies condemned the people of that day, and yet all of it will transpire similarly before the coming of Christ.
@brandahmessenger433
@brandahmessenger433 Год назад
Last comment? As if one can’t get personal revelation of understanding on Isaiah as a type?! Why would a teacher steer students away from finding meaning? Just because she’s still intimidated and hasn’t got her answers yet?! You know what I think… I think there’s very much trouble in the church today because of that exact default. No one wants to know. Prefer to breeze over holy book vs do the personal work. Find or in the least SEEK the meanings and answers. Granted I can appreciate the weight of responsibility to teach difficult text, but the numbness in tone here on that last comment advice is deafening to me. I do appreciate Oakes comments here.
@hollayevladimiroff131
@hollayevladimiroff131 5 месяцев назад
Isaiah says there is only one God, Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no other. I am the first and the last. Isaiah 46:9 I am God, and there is none like Me, Isaiah talks about there is only ONE God unlike Mormonism, that has many Gods, and that god is a man who is exalted. Isaiah is one of the great Books that speaks of the ONE glorious all-knowing God.
@BB-ct4dt
@BB-ct4dt 4 года назад
Isaiah 19 is America in its last days. Codename Egypt. Writing this in June 2020. Look for modern "Moses" who will lead the righteous away from destruction enacted by the "Assyrian King" as he is empowered by God to destroy the wicked of the world.
@brandahmessenger433
@brandahmessenger433 Год назад
……. Code name Egypt? Not ;)
@brandahmessenger433
@brandahmessenger433 Год назад
Sigh…..
@FFM115
@FFM115 Год назад
You got it right brother. I’ve been Isaiah for more than a decade, and that’s exactly what the record says, my prayers were confirmed that Isaiah refers to the US as the modern day Jerusalem/ Egypt, he uses these two terms to describe the USA and as scary as it sounds he prophesies about our destruction for corrupting the vineyard and that God will bring the king of Assyria against us, Assyria was a cruel conquering alliance of nations in Isaiah’s time, in our day its very likely to be China/ Russia and a few other allied nations that will go on to dominate the world for a period, a time of darkness and great destructions, especially among the Gentile Nations USA, Europe and its allies. This matches other prophecies in the Book of Mormon about the end of the Gentile nations as described by the Savior in 3rd Nephi 20 and 21 and in D&C 87. Most members don’t realize what’s coming because they are sleeping relying on the arm of flesh, busy with religiosity, focused on the church leaders and following them, just like ancient Israel, they will be caught by surprise when these things start happening and we are closer than never. The Lord will send a mighty Prophet to set the faithful free from captivity because the king of Assyria will invade the US and kill many and take people into captivity and none can save them except God. We will see a repetition of what happened in ancient times.
@jeffhenderson3184
@jeffhenderson3184 4 месяца назад
He’s right. Egypt was the super power of Isaiah’s day. A type for America. What… you didn’t know that?
@standingforthetruth1
@standingforthetruth1 4 года назад
Could someone tell me what the name is of the book he was referring to that the students had?
@jdjudd28
@jdjudd28 4 года назад
It looks like he has an old copy of the "Seminary Student Guide." You can find a digital version of it here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/manual/old-testament-seminary-student-study-guide?lang=eng
@PRLoga
@PRLoga 9 месяцев назад
What are Isaiah's Challenge?
@mak88119
@mak88119 4 месяца назад
Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. This verse completely destroys the LDS church which says you can be a god.
@Blacktorch27
@Blacktorch27 4 месяца назад
The arrogance to think that you can come up with a single verse (in a book we believe in) to “destroy” the Church is astonishing. A couple ironies I want to point out. 1) who is the servant referenced in this verse? Isaiah? A Prophet? Does God use prophets to speak truth? Sounds like a church I know. 2) Isaiah more than anyone else in the Old Testament testifies of the profound truths found in no other church but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Temples, Priesthood, Foreknowledge of Christ, etc. Only if you have eyes to see and ears to hear, that is.
@FFM115
@FFM115 Год назад
Isaiah is easy to understand, he uses geographic locations from his time to prophecy about events in the last days. He refers to Ancient Israel and Egypt to describe America(Modern day Israel because of the gospel restoration and Egypt because of America cultural influence) he refers to the King of Assyria in his time to describe a powerful tyrant nation in the last days that will cause great destructions in America and other Gentile nations ( China/ Russia) the modern day Israel (USA) also described as a choice vineyard that became corrupted and didn’t produce good fruits, will eventually be trodden under the feet of the Assyrians. These prophecies are close to being fulfilled. We have very little time to repent from our false traditions, priestcraft, idolatry, lies, deceit, financial abuse and other iniquities. These events will catch us by surprise. Compare to the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith prophecies. Our leaders are blind to what’s happening and what’s coming. We need to wake up fast.
@kcb5336
@kcb5336 5 месяцев назад
Who are the leaders your referring to? Church leaders ? Political leaders? Very interesting comment
@FFM115
@FFM115 5 месяцев назад
@@kcb5336 both religious and government have become blind and corrupted but Isaiah is referring to the church leaders in the chapter 56, he describes these “Watchmen “ a term used to refer to the leaders, as blind, dogs that cannot bark, they are not doing their job of receiving real revelation and prophecy and warning the people of what’s coming, instead they are sitting comfortably thinking everything is fine , that all is well. 10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. 11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. (Isaiah 56)
@kcb5336
@kcb5336 5 месяцев назад
@@FFM115 wow! Thanks for the reply. I think you’re correct! So do you think the modern church leadership is astray? Are you an active member of the LDS church?
@FFM115
@FFM115 5 месяцев назад
@@kcb5336 yes I’m active, yes the church is off path and it has been since the days of Joseph. It’s not necessarily unusual, Ancient Israel as well as other God’s people often go astray. The problem is that they never find their way back until God punished them, it happened to Ancient Israel several times, it happened to the Nephites and it will happen to us Latter Day Gentiles. I guess it’s human nature. We have been warned , Isaiah speaks to our day, the Book Of Mormon speaks specifically about us, we need to heed to its warnings.
@jeffhenderson3184
@jeffhenderson3184 4 месяца назад
Watchmen includes all religious leaders. Even if you argue and say it’s LDS leaders only… that is a general statement including local leaders of which there are thousands. And in that case, I would agree with Isaiah’s assessment. Many are blind guided. But, many are not.
@corybritton1966
@corybritton1966 7 месяцев назад
The book of Isaiah is hard for Mormons because it destroys the Mormon theology of multiplicity of gods, the book of Isaiah is diametrically opposed to the King folett discourse, repent of your blasphemies
@hollayevladimiroff131
@hollayevladimiroff131 5 месяцев назад
Great, someone that knows Mormonism, God Bless You and God help the Mormons.
@jeffhenderson3184
@jeffhenderson3184 4 месяца назад
Whatever! Ha. There absolutely are multiple Gods. I could go on for days quoting scriptures that prove it. I’ll just start in Genesis, “and God said, let US make man in OUR image”. Just who is God talking to? Seems God was not alone. To believe there is one God is to ignore scripture, or at minimum completely misunderstand it. You are the one who has fallen into the trappings of what you have been taught by uninspired, blind guides and teachers. Throw off your shackles and believe the Bible! think for yourselves and believe what God has written.
@brucegillingham2793
@brucegillingham2793 4 месяца назад
@@jeffhenderson3184 Jesus, he was talking to Jesus.
@yeboscrebo4451
@yeboscrebo4451 2 года назад
I rarely hear anything of real substance from these general authorities.
@gabegoldweight1854
@gabegoldweight1854 Год назад
You should try listening. 😉
@yeboscrebo4451
@yeboscrebo4451 Год назад
@@gabegoldweight1854 How about pondering?
@brandahmessenger433
@brandahmessenger433 Год назад
Then damn YOU.
@hollayevladimiroff131
@hollayevladimiroff131 5 месяцев назад
Amen, he can't talk about Isaiah, it differs from Mormonism. Mormonism is unbiblical.
@beverlyvanfosson8259
@beverlyvanfosson8259 5 месяцев назад
You are obviously an apostate
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