Understanding Nintendo's Weirdest Game 

Shigesato*

Yep, that's essentially a basic foundation on which capitalism is built and maintained.

@@shadowmsh5723 That could also apply to drugs. Or video games. Or anything that gives you dopamine without real value.

@@3869426384 I belive that if you can learn from it or grow from it, it has value. For example, I wouldnt be who I am without FF6, Mother 3 or persona 3. but dont do drugs, cheap trills with no real payoff

@@3869426384 That's were you are wrong, first because drugs have an effect on you, not a positive one but still more than just the satisfaction of buying them, and second... You are comparing video games to drugs.

To be fair Earthbound had horrible advertising, with all the gross-out humor that sent out the wrong message.

>underrated Dude the mother series is probably one of the most emulated series of all time.

@@thegirlwiththemouseyhair6486 It isn't as known as something like Super Mario or Donkey Kong tho. That's what i'm saying, it is known, just not as much as it deserved to.

This is a *fact.*

U n d e r r a t e d

At least he's not scared of 3s like Valve

I agree.

Dragzii nice pfp, and very much true.

sam and max? i haven’t heard that name in forever

I honestly think that the MOTHER and Red Dead Redemption series are masters are being able to pull off being extremely silly and extremely serious in the same game. Nothing has impacted my life more than Earthbound and RDR1.

@@yoot3008 ikr, all of the games are so underrated in the current age

@@pulaskiatnight_ Sam&Max Hit the Road is considered a classic point'n'click almost everywhere though. Which is fair. I wouldn't know about the Telltale ones, never got into those for some reason,. I think the switch to 3D lost a lot of the appeal of the original Purcell designs. Also from what I remember the writing wasn't really as good in them?

Discombobulated

Mine too. God Lucas is so pure

Oh hey Denis didnt expect you here..

It's your favourite of all time? Really? I'd have said Earthbound or Undertale. They just left me feeling better.

@@fallenhuman2081 Mother 3 was pretty good too, come on, admit it. I know more people tend to like Earthbound since it's more happy-go-lucky, lighthearted and how open-world it is. Mother 3 can get dark and gloomy at times, but I think it has a better combat system. I also wouldn't say Undertale is a game that leaves me feeling better either. That game can get quite gloomy too.

Well all the games are equally the best game

Right?

@@pintin9843 not games like sonic 06

Huh, that's a wierd way to spell " weird"

@@scanbbb >:/

Yeah, it kind of confuses the message when he made them look like TVs. In-game, they're depicted as emitting a wobbly glow and nothing else, but it's hard not to compare them to real life. They're meant to be a symbol of materialism, of buying something simply for the sake of having it and nothing else. Whereas TVs have value as an information and entertainment source, the only value of a happy box is that everyone else has one.

Free?

@@yeotechno6580 The translation is free, but the original Japanese ROM isn't. ('You are a pirate' plays faintly in the distance)

I played it through a rom and just promised myself to pay for it if they ever actually release the game here

Also you can get a fan translation in GBA format. It's not too expensive I think

@@shreever9473 it's free

200 like now..

same lol

Fr. 😭

lol

Yep

Im not complaining. RU-vid finally recommended good content within the hour its posted, good job youtube. Do this more often.

Do you know the name of the song ?

@@PL-uz3hf kinda delayed lol, but it's from "16 Melodies"

@@Gary_Sherman oh wow, thank you! I guess i find it later but i'm hapoy you answered ^^

Same.

Same that series inspired and help shape my childhood and it still is, it's just a game that not enough people know about...

yes

It happens as in Earthbound. The story hasn´t got something emotional at first sight, but, if you emphasis whats going on, you will understand: Paula was kidnapped, Ness goes into an adventure in which he risks his own life at the age of 13, Jeff escapes a private school surrounded by snow and Poo is forced to train even if he didnt asked to. Now, lets focus on the enemies: a dog attacks you, a tree with a face, aliens attacks you... the protagonists see that as a normal thing, but ITS NOT obviusly. Mother 2 represents the child suffering of every day in the real world.

Exactly. It's insulting to hear people make stupid claims like this is an anti capitalism story. The game is much deeper than a dipshit woke college hipster moron trying to lecture everyone, if that's what they think, then they either didn't play it through or kept skipping through all the dialog and story.

it can be about all these things at once

@@derealized797 ...but it's also about capitalism, materialism, the role of propaganda, relationships to the means of production, and colonialism...

I doubt it ever will be localized. After Earthbound's low sales, Nintendo of US does not even cosider this idea possibility. But it's unfounded because the game is not bad. It's just for niche audiences. Other than that, days of GBA are already long gone and games are not really published anymore. So why would they care about localizing some games from 2006 on a dead system?Still, I wouldn't worry too much. There is a fan translation which is more than a enough as replacement for localization. Additionally, you can emulate it for free rather than actually buying a game.

@@shadowmsh5723 but where is this so called fan translation. i dont want to end up in some virus ridden hole. a link would be nice

@@shadowmsh5723 It's not so much of what you're stating about the game "being on a now dead system" but more of the controversy it'll face when released in the West. Most of the themes, especially the Magyspies, is pretty acceptable in Eastern cultures, not so much in Western ones. Also, it being on an old system has nothing to do with it because lots of people like retro games and Nintendo has put old games most people wouldn't have been able to play onto their newer console, even Mother 1. But I agree that it was because of Earthbound's poor sells in the West was what stopped them from releasing another Mother game in the West, Itoi himself stated that in an interview and was devastated. Mother 3 also was sort of met with criticism in Japan too due to it being different and less lighthearted than Earthbound, surprisingly enough. Also, there'd be no point in releasing it if we have the fan translation, but there will always be folks who want a English release, pronto.

@@NuggetOG go to Mother3.fobby.net , it's there and it was translated by a professional translator who has worked on animes , and even worked on some official Nintendo translations

@@chocorocky5705 Thx

I'm doing one on an emulator

Neither reading of the game should be pushed aside, it's got plenty going on

It's seriously annoying cus while the themes are interesting in the context of mother, they're so blatantly obvious that discussing the themes solely through that lens is lame. On top of that, seeing the same basic points being made - when everybody and their mom already shits on capitalism at any given chance - is dreadfully boring. Capitalism has provably been a systemic failure but christ I'd really appreciate if people would learn "capitalism bad" isn't an interesting discussion.

While Capitalism can do a lot of good, it certainly can do a lot of bad as well. And I think that even if that isn't Mother 3's main theme, it's still something important to keep in mind.

just remember: Terry Hintz is god.

FUCK YES. THIS.

I dont get why ppl say THE when they can say MINE.

Sick drops

@Cookie eater "A different skin color" Somehow this sounds a bit wrong ahah.

I wouldn't say these games are ignored by Nintendo. It gets a lot of dedication in the Smash Bros series so saying it gets put under the bushes is more like an understatement. It certainly doesn't get as much attention as Mario, Zelda or Pokemon, but then again, those are the big main three. I feel as if Nintendo ignores Metroid, Pikmin, F-Zero and Star Fox much more. A lot more people have also been able to play it on the WiiU, where Earthbound was the bestselling title on there. In the case of Mother 3, it's still the case that until it releases in America, most people know nothing of Lucas' backstory or have only heard of it in the least due to spoilers and mostly only know him as that guy from Smash. And not everyone knows about the fan translation and there are some people who outright refuse to play it until they get an official English release. And like you mentioned, most of M3's themes are too controversial, especially the Magyspies and Salsa's chapter which deals with animal abuse. There's also a lot of disturbing content and usage of curse words. If it did release, they'd have to tone down it's themes, which would awfully downplay the game's true intentions. At this point, it would be hard to release it. I also really love your profile pic of your pittie by the way :-)

You okay?

I can translate: GYGAS saw that porky's mother is shit, but he knew that mother too just "left him". Sooo, he passed his powers and ideas to porky.

Pokey had a shit family and Giygas had a penchant for controlling people through their flaws.

I'd say lack of love

r/ihadastroke

YES. THIS. I was most convinced of this during the lines when one of the hallucinations started blasting Kumatora. “She’s unlovable, like a stick. A stupid, ugly, stick.”-or something along those lines. We know what Lucas is traumatized by, we’ve seen some of Duster’s damage, but this is really the first time we see a glimpse of Kumatora’s weakness. She’s tough, but she’s still afraid of rejection and abandonment. And you’d only really see that side of her after diving DEEP into her psyche. It’s definitely not an accident that each of the party members suffer at the hands of very specific demons. There’s general threats and creepiness, and then there’s specific comments that strike right at your core. It’s a brilliant, terrifying sequence.

What is HL2 ? Half-Life ?

@@jacquesnouvel6436 yeah

@@od4361 I see Thanks for answering

Mother 4 when

@@cosmicalize I believe Shigesato Itoi is done with the Mother series. He is getting quite old now too.

simply gauging the argument against one political ideology would arguably be much less complex than just human's in general so i'm also greatful they didn't go that route

It's weird seeing people getting upset about it in the comments lol, sorry your RU-vidr didn't tell you "hey guys capitalism bad" for the 1,000th time.

Who is the other creator?

@Hinawa Mother of Claus and Lucas yessss I am a HUGE fan! Mom 3 fans, rise up lol :D

The game has a side-theme (which is love, in Mother 3) and you only can see the real message. First of all, i always take art as a way to commicate a message, in the form of something beautiful. Dont you see what I mean with these? The "main" story (or message in this case) is amazing, but the message is amazing too It happens the same in Earthbound. The story hasn´t got something emotional at first sight, but, if you emphasis whats going on, you will understand: Paula was kidnapped, Ness goes into an adventure in which he risks his own life at the age of 13, Jeff escapes from a private school surrounded by snow just to meet someone he didnt even met and Poo is forced to train even if he didnt asked to. Now, lets focus on the enemies: a dog attacks you, a tree with a face, aliens attacks you... the protagonists see that as a normal thing, but ITS NOT obviusly. Mother 2 represents the child suffering of every day in the real world.

Especially when you are an immortal being! At least a mortal stuck in there gets the mercy of dying from thirst a couple days in.

Porky will survive the heat-death of the universe, fully conscious and with nothing to do and no one to talk to the entire time.

jesus, that's terrifying

It's a fate worse than death

@@lunk6867 One of the worse-worse ones too. *shudders*

well if there are other life they won't be better that us.

One ticket to Candy Mountain, please.

great vids man, keep it up :)

@@TheBert. i Will.

@@jackfrazier698 man you broke the chain on your own comment

@@TheBert. demon time

Thank you for noticing. While the "message" of this analysis is something everyone can easily agree with, I had the feeling the entire time that the *purpose* of the analysis (and they way it ends with a universally agreeable point) was to actively downplay the anti-capitalist message of the game, and muddy the waters with a BS implication that the anti-capitalist message is somehow both unimportant and merely surface level, and that it is mutually exclusive to the easy-to-agree-with message of the analysis... when the whole point of the game in the first place is that individual human evils (usually) have systemic roots.

This video just really hit poorly... it’s actively denying the blatant anti capitalist themes present throughout the game while trying to force some “love triumphs over all” as the *real* lesson. Shit... is “love wins over all” a controversial statement in popular media? It’s just so lazy to pretend that the themes have no interaction

@@SweatinSteve Yeah I was surprised at how, uh, boring this analysis was. Like, I was just expecting it to get to a bigger point throughout and then realized it had played all it's cards already when I thought it was still setting up its thesis. Weirdly paced and just not very agreeable in my eyes.

lmaoing at this thread