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Understanding Pedal Order 

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What's the best order to place guitar effects on your guitar pedalboard? Why would you want to place one type of effect before another? Mitch Gallagher and Don Carr join forces to explain the thought process behind setting up your pedalboard.
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Skip to video segments with the links below:
Intro - 0:00
Conventional Pedal Order - :44
Pedalboard Overview - 1:20
Wah and Overdrive Placement - 2:54
Wah/Overdrive Playing Examples - 3:05
Compressor Placement - 3:39
Compressor Playing Examples - 4:21
Modulation and Overdrive - 5:08
Modulation and Overdrive Playing Examples - 5:23
Time-based Effects and Overdrive - 5:58
Time-based Effects and Overdrive Playing Examples - 6:21
Volume Pedal and Overdrive Order - 7:28
Volume Pedal and Overdrive Playing Examples - 8:10
Volume Pedal and Time-based Effects Order - 9:06
Volume Pedal and Time-based Effects Playing Examples - 9:42
Wrap Up - 10:51

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@pieterbc
@pieterbc 4 года назад
Note to self: Wah, compressor, gains, volume, modulations, time based stuff. 👍🏻
@jacobl6572
@jacobl6572 4 года назад
Exactly what works for me, with a buffer just after the wah.
@rzk_audio
@rzk_audio 4 года назад
I'll wire my board in the reverse of this one day just to see what happens...
@relevantinformation6655
@relevantinformation6655 4 года назад
Yep, but who can possibly resist moving them around and constantly noodling with them :)
@rzk_audio
@rzk_audio 4 года назад
@@relevantinformation6655 That's part of the fun!
@stevehunt2705
@stevehunt2705 4 года назад
Idonttex.s0rry
@MostlyTorso
@MostlyTorso 6 лет назад
Very scientific, very professional. No showing off with useless guitar riffs, and everything is straight to the point. I love videos like this when I'm searching for information. Most people mean well, but are frustrating to watch. The guys/gals that made this video are pros--not just at guitars, but at making videos. Thanks, you guys.
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 6 лет назад
MostlyTorso Thank you for watching and for the kind words!
@ToddtheExploder
@ToddtheExploder 5 лет назад
MostlyTorso I agree. Mitch G. is seriously knowledgeable. Read his book, In Search of Tone.
@kingjangad
@kingjangad 4 года назад
agree..101%
@adamhicks24
@adamhicks24 4 года назад
That's SweetWater for you !
@allboutthemojo
@allboutthemojo 3 года назад
@@sweetwater hi guys. Where should you put your volume pedal if you want to use it to make dynamic changes from say high gain to clean but you don't want to do it abruptly by hitting in chanel switch or clicking the distortion on/ off. Sort of like Adam Jones does it as just one example. He uses it to go from gain to clean and back without that sudden switch. Also to be able to use it for volume swells because controlling that with the guitar knob is not easy. Thanks
@runlarryrun77
@runlarryrun77 5 лет назад
Love this. "There's no wrong way to do this". That's the best way to approach pedalboards. A few people have seen pics of mine & been pretty pissy about my set up. I realised pretty quickly what they were effectively saying was "That's not set up like mine. You should set it up like mine". It works for me so it stays as it is until I want or need to change something.
@KX5Kat
@KX5Kat 5 лет назад
True, it really depends on what your demands are, but for studio use, you're probably going to go with a pretty conventional setup.
@marchebert9813
@marchebert9813 5 лет назад
If it sounds right it is right. That's really the main rule.
@N00dleBandit
@N00dleBandit 3 года назад
Never heard the phrase "extra harmonic content" before, but I'm gonna start using it for everything I use now.
@Nightdog1978
@Nightdog1978 4 года назад
Excellent info indeed. I'm a 67 year old professional musician and it's always good to look at how you do it and how somebody else does. No absolute right or wrong way! I also really appreciate the guitar player just showing us the sounds and not doing a happy dance all over the neck for us to show us what he can do. High praise to Sweetwater for this very informative video without any ego going on here! Thank You!
@relevantinformation6655
@relevantinformation6655 4 года назад
I love rediscovering pedals I bought in the 70’s , 80’s and 90’s that have been off the board and in storage, & dropping them back in- “hey, that’s why I bought that, must have been in my Robin Trower phase “ :)
@maxrichter5603
@maxrichter5603 6 лет назад
Let me do the math for You: There are 40320 possibilitys to place 8 pedals on a board.
@thekingfish6296
@thekingfish6296 6 лет назад
8!
@putinpuppet2063
@putinpuppet2063 6 лет назад
I have 9 pedals.
@thekingfish6296
@thekingfish6296 6 лет назад
362,880 possible combinations, or 9 factorial.
@PilferMusic
@PilferMusic 5 лет назад
the math is pretty simple
@foghornnosehorn8383
@foghornnosehorn8383 5 лет назад
Dammit man I'm a guitarist not a mathematician!
@LarryMar
@LarryMar 4 года назад
I wonder if people really appreciate the awesome reviews and advice Sweetwater gives?? I sure do, and they could easily do much less, but they don't and won't!!!
@marsmediapro
@marsmediapro 6 лет назад
I absolutely LOVE Sweet Water's videos! This video is one your best! It really shows pretty much most of the parameters. Thanks, guys!
@chuckkirkpatrick6712
@chuckkirkpatrick6712 6 лет назад
This is one of the best produced, well presented You Tube videos I have ever seen....and extremely informative and enlightening to one who has pondered the proper pedal order for years. Thank you gentlemen both!!
@alansturgess1324
@alansturgess1324 5 лет назад
Wow - so much info here I needed to watch it several times to get things into my head. Really excellent. I always find that Don's demos of guitars and FX are spot on and have often helped me make decisions about what or what not to buy or check out. Top man.
@patrickcarroll1754
@patrickcarroll1754 6 лет назад
Both Mitch and Don are great. Thanks for being awesome, guys.
@smatlanta1
@smatlanta1 4 года назад
This was the best and clearest treatment of this topic that I've ever seen. Thanks!
@ernestbuckley8671
@ernestbuckley8671 3 года назад
Mitch is amazing. Time & time again he teaches me something in a clear, no fuss matter. Don is also excellent. I saved this and will watch it several times as I build my first board. Thanks guys.
@austinbrown4825
@austinbrown4825 4 года назад
This is a very professional, easy to follow tutorial on pedal board setup. Recently purchased a Boss GT-100 and want to start building custom patches on it; this video helped take a lot of the guess work out of things. Thank you!
@paulopris-sirca5120
@paulopris-sirca5120 6 лет назад
This types of videos for beginner/intermediate guitar players are great super helpful! Thanks Sweetwater!
@josephmccutcheon9037
@josephmccutcheon9037 2 года назад
I love sweetwaters info videos. Legendary and simple to understand.
@nazmoking3171
@nazmoking3171 5 лет назад
This was a really good and educational video - much appreciated! I'm going to need to listen to it a couple more times to get the full understanding of what was happening. I wish there were more videos on this topic and I'd like to see more from you guys going into a little more detail if you're up to it.
@waynepalumbo8917
@waynepalumbo8917 2 года назад
I like that they are giving us an A/B and letting us hear what it sounds like, with a technical description of what happens to the sound vs saying "this is bad and sounds bad, this is good and sounds good". They give us a fairly objective description which is cool.
@garthosborn8400
@garthosborn8400 3 года назад
This is excellent. I took notes! I love how Don and Mitch do their demo videos. No excessive noodling - like Sgt. Joe Friday used to say..."Just the facts." This is just one of Sweetwater videos I have found to be clear and helpful. I'm a 65-year-old dude putting together my first serious pedalboard. I'll be referring to this and my notes often.
@eltigre8978
@eltigre8978 6 лет назад
Probably the best video yet on pedal order I've seen. Great job guys.
@lar57jsy
@lar57jsy 4 года назад
Good demo job as usual. I rely on you guy for reviews and demos. You do some of the best ones!
@electraazteca6002
@electraazteca6002 2 года назад
Very well done very well spoken love the dialogue you guys did the job it helped a lot thank you very much Sweetwater
@JonathanSayles
@JonathanSayles 3 года назад
Really informative. Haven't seen anyone else demonstrate pedals so well before.
@EarthToSean
@EarthToSean Год назад
Great, straight-forward and informative video. Bookmarked this one to reference later!
@david135-6
@david135-6 5 лет назад
Excellent demonstration and explanation of some of the more perplexing challenges of placement
@cpamiseso
@cpamiseso 5 лет назад
So, before or after is a consideration what you're trying to "effect" after all. To get this right, you need to understand the nature of your pedals so you can experiment effectively (what you had in mind = what it turns out). For example, that vol pedal before = guitar knob like, yet putting it after = master volume; and vol pedal is basically opens up or limiting the amount of signal coming in to the input of a device (amp, pedals, you name it). This video is really giving me that conclusion I can't get by watching other videos. Thanks Mitch, Don, and the video crews!
@oddsock8748
@oddsock8748 6 лет назад
Amazing video, straightforward and made a lot of sense. Thanks a lot guys.
@BrooksysBassCorner
@BrooksysBassCorner 3 года назад
Fabulous video, really helpful. Thanks guys, great work! Nice one!
@lukacapeta222
@lukacapeta222 5 лет назад
Putting the wah after distortion and delay makes great effects too. Nice video!
@karlficarotta
@karlficarotta 5 лет назад
Feels like I'm listening to sports commentary! So much knowledge from you both! Great video!
@avgmaster1
@avgmaster1 5 лет назад
Very well done. If only everone who reviews pedals would use this format. Awesome job guys and Sweetwater ! !!
@sweetwater
@sweetwater 5 лет назад
😎👊
@spartan8390
@spartan8390 5 лет назад
I used this as my guide, amazing results!
@demofactory
@demofactory 6 лет назад
Thanks for this guys!!! I've learned a lot from your instructional videos.
@growlandroll
@growlandroll 3 года назад
This was very helpful, thank you!
@ShawnShipstad
@ShawnShipstad 9 месяцев назад
Great video. Much to be learned. This is only scratching the surface.
@TheTruth70777
@TheTruth70777 3 года назад
This very basic and very complete. Spectacular.
@TAkahashiryu
@TAkahashiryu 2 года назад
One of the best, most useful, straight to the point and helpful videos I’ve ever seen. A lot of information, well placed and well explained. You guys are amazing professors!
@user-oz6yi1vz3z
@user-oz6yi1vz3z 3 года назад
Very educational video! There's many informations about the basics of guitar effecting.
@FernandezCycles
@FernandezCycles 6 лет назад
Even their voices sound perfect. Very cool video guys! Cheers!
@stevefiorito5379
@stevefiorito5379 11 месяцев назад
Great video guys! I suppose that you could say that the more pedals you have, the more you have to think about pedal order. When I played for a living, I kept my pedal array very simple: Wah, Phase, Distortion & Echo. I could get just about any sound I wanted with those 4 effects. What I didn't have back in the 70s and 80s was an amplifier with effects loops. My working amp today has that, and that adds to the options. Your demo video really makes it obvious what position the pedals should be in ... at least to my ears.
@Astronomater
@Astronomater 6 лет назад
miku pedal always goes last in the chain.
@777Yoni
@777Yoni 6 лет назад
Obviously...and first...and in the middle. Stacked Mikus are the next logical step. Thanks for the excellent video.
@npthedarkside27
@npthedarkside27 6 лет назад
What do you mean by chain? You only need one pedal if you have a Miku.
@Clodnesia
@Clodnesia 6 лет назад
Nathan Palmer not if you’re stacking multiple miku’s🤤
@michaelmiller7909
@michaelmiller7909 5 лет назад
@Bill Primo the Joke Your head
@Shadowrunner340
@Shadowrunner340 5 лет назад
@@michaelmiller7909 But of course, for those of us who DIDN'T know beforehand what a Miku pedal was, Bill's comment was the only one with any usefulness.
@MadmanDKDK
@MadmanDKDK 2 года назад
Would love to see an updated version of this subject, with the introduction of what to put where if you also use the effect loop of the amplifier.
@TheZiZaZo
@TheZiZaZo 3 года назад
This was a great presentation/explanation
@76booge
@76booge 2 года назад
About to build my first pedal board, this was super helpful. 👌
@RajibDeyMusic
@RajibDeyMusic 4 года назад
This is very helpful to understand the pedal order.
@RagdollOC
@RagdollOC 5 лет назад
Excellent demo.
@scottsigler
@scottsigler 6 лет назад
Great video, very helpful.
@truthfulrobot9295
@truthfulrobot9295 5 лет назад
Awesome Video, very useful info. Thnx
@lynyrddeville
@lynyrddeville 5 лет назад
That may be a very simple pedalboard, but make no mistake, it is also a very excellent pedalboard. Those pedals are pretty choice! a few industry standards, a couple boutique pedals here and there, and a value choice wildcard (EXH wah), and voila! A pedalboard for all occasions! Well done fellas! Very informative too.
@buzzcrushtrendkill
@buzzcrushtrendkill 6 лет назад
Wow. Highly informative. Thanks.
@Roysito
@Roysito 6 лет назад
Awake video! Thank you for the excellent work
@shanbags76
@shanbags76 5 лет назад
Great video, guys. Thanks for the ideas.
@andreguitarist
@andreguitarist 4 года назад
You guys are professors! Awesome video and awesome instruction!
@jennyurshagen1988
@jennyurshagen1988 6 лет назад
Nice job. i think this guy Daniel has a product that makes life easier!!
@AlbertoMartinezDelRio
@AlbertoMartinezDelRio 6 лет назад
Illustrative video. Thanks!
@drewa1999
@drewa1999 2 года назад
Excellent and clear(well, distorted too but..) info! Thanks SW bros!
@SjaakShirly6559
@SjaakShirly6559 6 лет назад
I agree with Mostly Torso. Very useful information!
@thatonetechyguy
@thatonetechyguy Год назад
This is such a solid video.
@maxduvall9055
@maxduvall9055 5 лет назад
what I liked about this is you didn't talk forever but you explained what happened, you played the type of music you might hear with the proper effects, and you you didn't randomly play some pedals with the others, you did the ones that match so that you can hear the effect in its clearest form. very well done, very informative, thank you guys.
@97warlock
@97warlock 5 лет назад
Exellant useful,clear info. THANX~
@Tone-Oz
@Tone-Oz 3 года назад
great vid thanks for your expertise.
@davidbakerscuba
@davidbakerscuba 6 лет назад
Great video, thanks!
@ethanol_oats7568
@ethanol_oats7568 6 лет назад
VERY DIRECT! LOVE IT!
@zeljkocar5181
@zeljkocar5181 Год назад
Thanks a lot.. This helped a lot with my dilemmas..
@Athenascars
@Athenascars 5 лет назад
Thanks for this vid!
@MrMetz2112
@MrMetz2112 4 года назад
Man, I have a lot to learn! I just picked up a line 6 M5 and a OCD full tone as my first pedals from Sweetwater. I guess I will just play around with it and see how they sound.
@amphitheatre
@amphitheatre 6 лет назад
another good pedal vid from SW! i'm hoping you demo the new superego+ soon. pedal order is important but i find the "traditional" way works best. dirt > VOL > mod > time/space fx is how i have mine setup.
@kimhansen6384
@kimhansen6384 6 лет назад
Super video, changed some of my ´fixed´ opinions. Thank you!
@patulekos
@patulekos 5 лет назад
Nice video, thanks!
@stulora3172
@stulora3172 5 лет назад
Great video, and kudos that you hold back on commenting on what is "supposed" to sound better. On my board as well as in your video, I like the wha to come after the distortion and the modulation (chorus, mostly) before. Luckily, tastes are different :)
@marotaylor2473
@marotaylor2473 5 лет назад
Perfect video.
@Zeal808
@Zeal808 2 года назад
Took me years to figure out move my distortion pedal after my wah. I was getting a boosted wah sound and couldn’t figure why it was so loud when I engaged it haha. So you get a more balanced volume when moving through the wah frequencies
@greatvanzini
@greatvanzini 6 лет назад
I missed this one somehow. Great discussion!
@martinafan64
@martinafan64 6 лет назад
Great video! Because of this video, now I know that the horrible sounds coming out of my amp have very little to do with my lack of talent and playing ability, and is most likely caused by incorrect pedal order! My rock star dreams can still come true if I just reconfigure my pedal board correctly! Seriously though, I think I'm gonna have to experiment with pedal order to try to get the best resulting tone. I configured my pedal board (about 10 pedals) based on what I read on the internet and based on the opinions of several "experts" at music stores. I was never fully satisfied with how everything sounded, so I'm going to switch the order of several pedals to see if I can come up with something better.
@marsmediapro
@marsmediapro 6 лет назад
Great response! What order did you place your pedals in? I had to stop playing guitar for a minute (5 years), and have just recently begun playing every day. I dug out my pedal board, and noticed that a few were missing (In the "pedal hospital")- and now repaired, but I failed to leave a note where those pedals resided, plus, I just added the EHX Slammi, so, please share what you wound up with, ok? Thanks!
@martinafan64
@martinafan64 6 лет назад
I also had a long period of time (1989 - 2015) when I didn't play guitar (marriage & 3 kids will do that), and I couldn't afford pedals when I was younger. So when I started playing again in 2016, the world of effects pedals was very new to me. Even though I think my pedal board could still use some tweaking, I think I've got it sounding pretty decent now. Here's my setup: Guitar-->BOSS Noise Suppressor NS2-->VOX Wah-->BOSS Super Overdrive SD1-->BOSS Distortion DS1--> BOSS Mega Distortion MD2-->front of Marshall tube amp head (the 4 BOSS pedals are in the Send/Return loop of the Noise Suppressor since I've been told that 'noisy' pedals belong in this loop) FX Loop Send-->BOSS EQ GE7-->BOSS Super Chorus CH1-->BOSS Digital Delay DS3-->FX Loop Return I'll eventually remove the Mega Distortion pedal because I just don't like how it sounds, as well as the Wah pedal which I never use anymore. I'll also add a few more pedals to the FX loop such as BOSS Reverb & BOSS Harmonist Pitch Shifter. Will also add a Compression Sustainer, but can't remember if it goes in front of the amp or in the FX loop.
@runlarryrun77
@runlarryrun77 5 лет назад
Tip - try dropping a few of those Boss pedals & dropping in a few direct bypass units. Boss are great don't get me wrong, on & off I've used them & other buffered bypass pedals that are very similar for ages. Like yourself I recently got back into playing after years of not touching a guitar. I built a pedal rig entirely of Boss pedals or faithful clones of them & it sounded good. However in the last few months I took some of them out & dropped some true bypass units in where they were & the improvement in tone was incredible.
@tuesdayzrain
@tuesdayzrain 4 года назад
Great vid!
@jaychen2000metal
@jaychen2000metal 5 лет назад
Compressors help flubby high gain amps too. Just used a Keeley yesterday and i had to put it on layaway
@stefanhamilton8713
@stefanhamilton8713 6 лет назад
Damn, awesome demo. Science!
@se7en5es
@se7en5es 6 лет назад
thanks mitch!
@dant6769
@dant6769 3 года назад
So if you have the space, you could actually use two volume pedals, one in middle, one at end, for difference purposes? Very interesting. Thanks for the straightforward, quick explanation, guys!
@djc5897
@djc5897 3 года назад
Tuner->phaser->wah->overdrive->distortion-> chorus->delay is how I have mine.
@jamiecockayne2892
@jamiecockayne2892 6 лет назад
So professional and helpful!! Ive just started looking into pedal boards and this gave me the exact idea on what i need to do. Thankyou
@garmond401
@garmond401 5 лет назад
Thanks 😁
@christisgod3354
@christisgod3354 6 лет назад
Good stuff.
@clemcadiddlehopper5706
@clemcadiddlehopper5706 2 года назад
Those Yamaha Revstars are AAAAmazing!
@welivebyvideo227
@welivebyvideo227 2 года назад
AWESOME VIDEO. LOOKING FOR THAT ULTIMATE SUSTAIN
@praiseandworshipbooth2071
@praiseandworshipbooth2071 5 лет назад
thank you
@ricksanchezito8972
@ricksanchezito8972 4 года назад
Sweetwater is the best!
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 3 года назад
This is one of the better presentations on pedal order I’ve found so far. BUT That’s not a pedal board. There’s no fuzz. I was surprised but really liked the phaser before the overdrive.
@wisteela
@wisteela 5 лет назад
Excellent video. Subbed.
@jeremyvoss9558
@jeremyvoss9558 3 года назад
These two are absolutely brilliant, very clear explanations!
@mcd5778
@mcd5778 3 года назад
You guys rock
@1badsteed
@1badsteed 3 года назад
Wow! I had a Johnson Millennium JM250 modeling amp. Setting up the effects it would ask what order to put them in. I had no idea it had any different effect on the sound. I'd therefore like to apologize for the horrid tones I used to play due to lack of knowledge of the proper signal path!
@HistoriasFrenteAlFuego
@HistoriasFrenteAlFuego Год назад
Thanks. 🙏🏻✅
@joshonhisbullshit
@joshonhisbullshit 6 лет назад
I’m left more confused and nervous lmao
@Hrazoart
@Hrazoart 5 лет назад
Joshua Harrison start off with a couple of pedals and get familiar
@MauFerrusca
@MauFerrusca 5 лет назад
Maybe if you think about this this way: are you delaying your distortion or distorting your delay? And then, plug your pedals in one and then the other order.
@ChiefGhoul
@ChiefGhoul 3 года назад
Hope you figured it out! There is no right way, just what sounds good to you.
@CollinMacQuarrie
@CollinMacQuarrie 3 года назад
@@MauFerrusca The entire video summed up in one statement; thank you 🙏
@Liteg0
@Liteg0 Год назад
If I am not mistaken, there are (8! = 40.320) different possible routing options on that pedal board. So yeah, you've got some options there! If you include bypass you've got (1! + 2! + 3! + 4! + 5! + 6! + 7! + 8! = 46.233) different sounds you can produce before you start tinkering with the knobs.
@mynmyself
@mynmyself 4 года назад
Id like to see how to stack different gain pedals. Apart from that, a great video
@jayjayripoff
@jayjayripoff 2 года назад
On little thing for people to try, see what you think, but I put fuzz and distortion before my wah, then the lighter stuff after.... I found the wah has a much stronger effect, and seemingly bigger sweep, sitting after the heavier gain stages. :-) Enjoy (courtesy of a That Pedal Show episode, ;-) )
@teejay9373
@teejay9373 5 месяцев назад
Sure does!
@richrico1
@richrico1 4 года назад
Just a note: I have often heard/been told that, if possible, All distortion/gain pedals should always go directly into the front of the amp. And all modulation, time based, delays etc. should be run through the amp's effects send/return loop... This is how I run my rig and I am very happy utilizing this set-up.... Also remember, your order of pedal placement is always a personal preference... There really isn't any right or wrong here.
@joshgreen4521
@joshgreen4521 Год назад
Another note: the effects loop is only relevant to use if you are using gain from your amplifier.
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