This girl already proved who she is. Her videos are scary accurate and insightful. Just because some people call their typing objective, it doesn't mean they are immediately right. Sara doesn't have to show how she types people. She said her channel is not about that. She proved with her work how insightful she is. Enough for me.
Afsjdjaghd removing the INTJ label (even though this happens to INTJs most of the time whatever that means), this is an unhealthy state to be in in general because it is EXTREMELY self destructive. Even though the character here is acting superior, he is putting himself in unnecessary stress that will potentially make him severely depressed and lonely.
Depends. Not all INTJs are as outspoken. I do think I'm good at seeing through people, kinda like in the video. I think most people with the right info would be able to. INTJs are not some sort of "masterminds" I'd say we have potential to be, others too. But praising your brain function instead of using it is a waste of time. Get out there. Make something great!
The difference between INTJs and INFJs in that perspective is that INTJs "Shut others down" in a manner of deflecting the topic at hand and generally rude and arrogant from the position in which they're in the wrong, and INFJs will personally attack you with your greatest insecurities, and tend to be in the right. Source, INFJ (M).
@@cheshire123 I pretend to care more than I actually really do when it comes to people's feelings and interests and issues. However, I am quite confident in who I am as a person and a quarky individual.
@@Cymatic-Mage same. I'm confident about myself too, but sometimes it's hard for me to be myself with my own personality,, because the way people think is often different than mine. I'm not good at english so I hope you can understand...
I suppose the lack of respect for status or "authority" makes sense. I've gotten in trouble for "talking back" to CEOs and other rich brats which steal from their workers via extortionary contracts. Last time, during one of those stupid quarterly meetings, it was about the air conditioning for the production floor of a factory being conveniently "broken" during summer, while the two air conditioners for the offices adjacent worked just fine. I suggested shutting off the air conditioning for the offices as a show of solidarity as well as saving money. They figured out how to "fix" the "broken" air conditioning the next day.
@@sirius4496 probably most types with lower Si and Fe, though INTPs have those as their 3rd and 4th functions rather than 8th and 7th like INTJs, I suppose early on it might be similar.
As an INTJ, this scene always resonated with me because I've done this very thing in a room full of co-workers and somehow didn't get fired. But, I was also correct. Tact has never been my strong suit.
ENFP here. Friends with an INTJ and he acts a lot like this xD Except he is a lot more blunt, so much so a general conversation with someone he considers 'intellectually inferior' tends to go like this. Him and I: *Are on question 34 Them: Hey, are you on question 16? Him: We're on question 34. Them: Damn, okay. Whats the answer to 16? I think its D. Him: It's not. Them: Why not? Him: Because I read the question.
Still I don't know why some people think so highly of intjs they are soooo egoistic The fact that intjs don't like other intj says they are egoistic as hell
@@manojjainism Idk where you got that idea, but I've seen so many INTJs flock to each other online saying they feel understood for the first time in their lives and that they felt like aliens till they realized there were others like them. And I'm INTJ and one of my best friends is INTJ too.
tbh immature narc with just intellect. It's hilarious to see when their intellect fail them because of this. Coz being human means you will make mistakes. I have seen good intj. They are not narc.
Amanda Hernandez That character is unhealthy. Look at the way he treated his best friend. Also in this scene you can spot narcissistic features. Healthy Intjs are different.
@@SaraMBTI As an ENFP, this is precisely why I find INTJs so fascinating. Because there is such a fine line between a healthy and unhealthy INTJ and yet there is a huge difference as well. I'm very good at figuring people out and how to make people smile, laugh, and overall just feel good and INTJs are by far the most difficult for me. However - I have plenty of INTJ friends.
Hmm... It's not the respect, which can be understood to have to do with someone else's status. It's more the attitude, which can be understood to be your personal responsibility.
As an INTJ-T female, I wish I had the guts to be as bold as him. Seriously, wow. I probably still would not be as insulting as he was, but definitely as bold.
In my opinion I don’t have to respect someone that doesn’t respect me whether it’s an authority or not Who even decides that this person is an authority?! Well certainly not to for me We should respect people equally no matter what status they have
Exactly, they can be an authority, I’ll respect them cause human decency, but the second they show prepotency or display any sort of abuse of power onto others or worse myself, I will have no problem to put them in their place as they deserve. Power and belongings are nothing but a tag, understanding and knowledge is something that anyone can achieve but few will work on, such accomplishment will not be covered by a tag. And oh man it’s fun to make them realize a position is not enough of a costume to hide their arrogance.
This is so me. Sometimes, I just can’t help but be angry at the people who continually ignore my capabilities to help a situation to preserve their pride by sticking to doing things their way and hurting themselves and everyone else around them in the process. No one else seems to notice, but it’s really obvious to me. And sometimes, I see pointing out flaws and sacrificing their feelings (which I only consider an option because they’re selfish and deserve it) the only way out because I won’t watch while things burn and I think about every possible action before I do things. So, after even that doesn’t work, I learned to just wait and let them learn themselves while I gave minimal response to them so I wouldn’t do or say anything that would never help and continued to do things the right way. But with most people, if I don’t close myself off and I say what I’m thinking, they will be devastated so I hold myself back. So, anyone who can be open minded, and especially if they are good at what they do, I respect
I am an INTJ, a married woman and a Mom. And yeah, I have been described as cold hearted and tactless and get misunderstood all the time especially by authority figures. I prefer facts and numbers. I don't understand emotions and I will never ever get people.
Having kids is something a rational self interested person wouldn’t want. It’s all pure emotion and instinct driven. You’re not as logical as you might think. Lol
Oh gosh, this is so darn accurate. I was friends with an INTJ for two years and every time he got angry, he acted absolutely arrogant and condescending, treating me as an intellectual inferior. And every time he was wrong, he danced his way around that with the verbal equivalent of "Hey, it just started raining".
17X that's just bullshit lol, how can you simply say something that illogical ? Do you really think that every INTJ person tends to be smartest in every circumstance? I am not an INTJ and I literally heard a lot of extremely dumb stuff from an INTJ. Even though that person enjoys discussing every unnecessary thing, in real debates I tend to be the one to constantly correct him because of his logical fallacies...how do you explain this other than admitting what you wrote is simply wrong ?
Why is humanity always refeared to having feeling and empathy. What separates us the most from animals is our intellect. Being cold and logical is as human as it can be. He is not losing his humanity for being different than most.
Well, this is a movie which means it is greatly exaggerated. INTJs don't try to hurt anyone unnecessarily. We value truth above all else though, so if stating the truth hurts someones feelings, so be it. A less interesting scene, but more accurate one for an INTJ, would be that Zuckerberg just answers the questions in very short and truthful (as he sees it) responses. So he might just answer yes to something and the lawyer may say "would you like to elaborate?" and Zuckerberg would say "no". The lawyer might then say "you seem like you are rushing through this. Do you have somewhere else to be?" and Zuckerberg would respond "Of course I do. Keep shooting your questions at me so I can answer them and get back to Facebook sooner rather than later." So the sentiment would be "I understand you have a job to do and I have to be here, but understand I do not want to be here so let's get this over with as quickly as possible so we can all get back to more interesting and productive aspects of our lives".
define intellect. if the ability to speak and form language yes. but communicate, I think other animals also has it. but I think what differentiate us from animals is heart and empathy. animals probably have this similar trait because of their instinct to survive, but not pure feeling of love and empathy like human. Remember, what makes us survive is not only our intellect, but because human is a social creature that survive with their colony on the old days.
-Do I have your full attention ? - No -Do you think I deserve it ? - NO... you have part of my attention: You have the minimum amount. Saying this while showing more interest in rain than whatever the other guy is talking about. Oh! I wish I can be that honest
To me it sounds like what any half pissed half bored NT would say. The actor is INTP. The real Mark seems to be INTJ. But as I said, many types (not even just NTs) could be pushed into this type of behavior.
I'm FJ and I have no problem standing up to authority or creating conflict if I see it furthering a goal of future progress/resolution. I think it's innacurate to say "this is how an XXXX would react" when humanity is not that simple. Humans are complex creatures and in our drive and search to understand humanity we should be careful to not minimize us :)
@@bbbbbbb51 right. I'm sure you dont mean to say that it's useless to determine what is *likely* the type of a person exhibiting a behavior. As in if you had to bet what type they were and had only this to go on, you'd likely limit your selection to certain types. But people tend to lose sight of that and actually engage in debate over that which the jury is still out on.
I totally disagree. I'm an INTJ and I was not "pushed" into this behavior at all. I'm also respectful to people who are respectful to me. But treat me poorly and I will clap back for sure. Because I've acted this way myself when people were condescending to me and thought they were high and mighty and actually they were not. If they treat you bad or talk down to you then you need to take them down. So, I did exactly like he did in the video. I will not put up with condescending stupid people. He handled those people perfectly.
No person would be comfortable in this scenario. I think the INTJ handled himself well after being cornered considering what they are trying to do to him. Stressful situation add to that the insult the implication carries. This what happens when you corner an INTJ. Don’t @ me. If you disagree then I respect that, but I’m not going to argue this.
That is a healthy INTJ, he is a good debater, people like us struggle with that. He knows what to say fast enough to outspeed his opponents, he knows when to back down and when + who to attack. This is no ordinary INTJ, this is a genius (I can actually do what he did, would have made vocabulary mistakes tho). Last thing: sometimes you have to show "narcissism", that you are strong enough because it will give some fear to your opponent giving you a big advantage.
I think it's a bit naïve to believe that by showing 'narcissism' and acting strong, people will fear you. But maybe it works with certain people. Interesting...
@@vsml333 there is a time and place for the need to instill actual fear but what's occurring in this video is not so much fear, but rather, this is him making his opponent fully cognizant of the fact that the intj can and always will outsmart you. I would say this is actually what a traditional, true intj, according to the textbook definition of course, is all about.
This is not an unhealthy INTJ. This is an INTJ 8w7 who is sick of everybody's s**** and reacts. - An INTJ 8w7 that talks like that to his incompetent superiors in his mind, and half of that sometimes when he's pissed.
Eisenberg is an INTP playing here an INTJ. From the point of view of the enneagram, he's a sexual five playing a social five. If you watch Eisenberg movies, in 90% of them he's just playing himself in terms of personality (both Myers Briggs and enneagram).
Just here to say that I know an INTJ who is really the opposite of this and really aware and thoughtful of how he affects other people‘s feelings, even though he might not be aware of them in the immediate moment. So wanted to appreciate him in this comment and I want you guys to know that INTJs are really valuable people and most of them aren‘t like this at all. Also, btw @Sara I think your MBTI community here is the best one I‘ve seen. I really get a focused, analytical but ethical view on types here both from your energy and from the community that surrounds you. So more power to you! Can‘t wait for the next book.
I think he was much like us. And honestly I was unsure as to where the difference was since I don't go around looking for them I just enjoy what I watched and all but it hit me right after I considered looking for a difference... He justifies his ass hole comments before making them. We don't really do that huh. It completely ruined it for me. It isn't that funny if he covers his ass before being an ass. It ruins the inmersion.
cuz in this case the intj was guilty and when they tried him he made them upset so they will punish him extra harshly. if you are guilty you want to get away scot free....if he was entp or enfj he would have achieved his goals quietly and successfully. I'd say he's a stupid INTJ more than unhealthy.
@@HisameArtwork I've never watched the movie. Maybe I should just watch it myself instead of asking questions, but in what regard(s) was he guilty? Was it just the hacking thing or something more? I really dont know the context very well.
Everyone talking about being a female INTJ and how life is a struggle, so I want to put my two cents in here. I have been called out by a friend for being the least emotionally-invested in a friendship just because I didn't comment on her instagram posts. I explained how I don't have a habit of commenting as I get lost scrolling online but that didn't help. She automatically assumed me to be the least caring too. She has often made countless remarks on my musical tastes and all things I hold dear as "shallow" but I haven't said anything before (being a Libra Sun and a people pleaser destroying my own life) but when I came up with my pent up emotions saying that all I want is a little more respect, she called me out as a person who just wanted to demean and bring her down with my outburst. I've had a lot of explaining to do as to how I didn't say anything back to her before despite feeling hurt by her remarks because I care about our bond and don't want it to be spoiled because of petty arguments and all that I was left with at the end was feeling guilty, feeling like a criminal who had mindlessly lashed out on a person (who had enough faults) when all that I wanted to ask for was a bit more respect for the person that I am.
1:57 is what i desperatly want to say everytime i know someone is lying but never say it in order to not start an argument, i just make them engage in a web of logicall arguments, peeling them layer by layer and then they realize they are caught in a loop and then they alone stop talking, and i'm like acomplished mission😈😈😈
I'm an INTJ myselfz, this video gives me more of an Apergers vibe than an actual unhealthy INTJ. The only possible thing it could mean by unhealthy is poor at getting along with people.
I have this issue and I’ve had to learn how to just stop engaging/let the conversation die off. If it’s a serious topic that has a direct and/or indirect effect on something affecting me or someone I care about, I take it to the mats if I’m confident in my position. If I’m not, then I just listen and inquire. It’s very unhealthy if you want to maintain relationships you care about, especially if you’re not doing it for narcissistic purposes. It’s definitely healthy if you don’t care to keep that relationship because that person is causing more harm than good for you. As I got older, I’ve come to learn that it’s a very odd way to engage with people because I realized almost nobody engages like this.
Yeah clip in isolation shows him more or less justified. Albeit not navigating the situation well. It would be better example to at least pretend to listen while thinking of other things. But I get from some of the comments there is additional context that shows this to be more narcissistic as well.
as someone who didnt see this movie ( i apologize if that was a prerequisite to understanding this video), these scenes make it seem like a classic case that happens in movies where, main character does something good or innovative that undermines authority. Authority figures are mad because he undermined said authority. They ignore positive impact the decision made, and force the main character through unnecessary punishement/trials to punish main character for not listening to said authority. Because that is the vibe these scenes give, im having a hard time understanding how (based on these scenes alone) hes unhealthy. Maybe to a stereotypical isfj or something he would seem unhealthy because of the lack of respect shown, but otherwise he doesnt seem unhealthy to me. Now i will say that if my assumption of these clips is wrong (which is 100% possible as i did not see the movie) and what hes going thru here is justified, then i could see how he is unhealthy. Im not disputing that he is unhealthy, as he may have shown that he is throughout the movie. I just want to say as someone who is ignorant to the context of these scenes, i could see how i and others would question what here portrays him as unhealthy.
Wow! This is exactly how get when in the face of authority and meaningless questions... when in fact they understand precise movements and position of mind. Now I understand how I might come-off a bit harsh to others. They don't see with my eye's... Thanks for the upload mate!
Curtis Kinoo You're welcome :) I am sure you are healthy one, this is just a movie and an example of unhealthy Intj. He was a narcissist. Healthy Intjs ars just direct and honest, not arrogant
I was watching the video clip without reading the comments, and I was like... and what is so unhealthy about this? He answered the questions and he was clear from the start on why he was there... I still didn't understand... so i scrolled to read comments to help me understand why its "unhealthy" and to be honest I still don't understand... comments like he's acting narcissistic, being arrogant in his answers...and im like aye?? He's answering a question...why are people putting in their feelings or personal connection of how he is answering or what is being answered... am i making sense?? Sigh INTJ-A female here.... I must be in the VERY immature category still... just found out about this test and been going through videos... articles and test....didnt realise i was falling into my stereotype... taking 10 different test to try and prove it to be bs... got family and friends to do it to see if its still full of it... and comparing answers... so dont mind me as i still search out there for more answers... just so i can feel the need to satisfy what i think is my truth.
@@ph0522 not only is this just disrespectful behaviour, but it would get you nowhere. How will you try to get ppl on your side if you constantly insult them and try to show your "superiority" ? Just doesn't make sense
I’m INTP. But I believe in subtypes INFP INTJ ENTP ISTP. Simply stating by statistical variance throughout your life one of your letters is the most balanced and it has appeared to me that this happens over cycles of many years. For me ISTP as a kid then INTJ as a teen INFP now as a young adult and possibly ENTP once I’m older. The order creates a consistent narrative regardless of the unique details of my life. Such that someone who has a different order ENTP INFP INTJ ISTP you can see would have a very different kind of life. Also he is my hero in this scene to my inner INTJ teenage subtype archetype I have for myself.
This is exactly how I responded when being forced into serving on the jury. NO WAY IN HELL did I like being forced to do something that I didn’t want to do so for every question the attorneys asked about whether or not I could do this or that I rebutted.
The end tough When I get really pissed of and I know I'm right but someone lies in my face I somehow start to speak like this. Logical, blunt and harsh
my whole life i had problems with teachers. they could literally just yell at us because of some stupid irrelevant reasons i was always the one that yelled back. i couldn’t stand when teachers said that our class is full of losers cuz we didn’t do our homework once. i always ended at principal’s office and i almost got expelled but after all i don’t regret it.
🖖There are different situations... INTJs always have plan developed with their own rules. If I think that my plan is better for my own sake and you standing in front of me telling me that I cant do what I think is the best for me, than you are a waste of my time, unless you bring something of value to my plan. The immature INTJs will argue and trying to change other persons mind and convince them otherwise. But eventually, you realize that it’s a waste of time. So nowadays I just walk away, unless the person wants my help and my advice. I love giving advice to people, but only the once who asks for it. Of course there are situations where you need to shut up and bite your tong because you have to comply with rules of the environment you are currently in. INTJs dislike this and immature INTJ might lash out and trying to convince others not realizing immediate consequences. I got fired from my last job because I was trying to improve the business from the owners perspective while being many ranks lower. So as a result I undermined authority and got fired. The whole experience showed me that I need to have my own plan, with my own rules. Once INTJ has his plan in place, he will do everything to make that a reality. He will create his own infrastructure and environment to get to his goal as fast and as efficient as possible. Anyone who does not obey by set rules that InTJ has in mind, will get cut off in the future. We are animals by nature and there is natural competition going on. INTJs are very competitive, so accepting someone else flawed point of view is not an option for an INTJ. We rebel from society rules to innovate our own and frankly, we care less what others think, unless it’s very close friend or someone who contributes to our vision. Be yourself and go after your vision. Cheers 🥂
This is so true and relate too much,sometimes people around me think I'm a selfish and arrogant person, but I don't know what to do because I'm like this.
I do speak like that.. But in my mind.... I often tend to shut my mouth, because I end up getting more enemies,till the point everybody hates me(even my father advised me to shut my mouth while talking to people, but I don't get how I was being rude, I was just trying to speak the truth and what I thought) As a fellow intj... . I have observed myself, and the way he used verbal elequant like "it's raining ", is typically very common in me.. .. I relate
Believing yourself to be so superior that when someone tries to bring you to their level, teaching you humility, you throw it back in their face and say, "how dare you try to make me less".
I even questioned the integrity/vision/intelligence of someone highly ranked in the military. He's not over me yet while I merely remember him as the truly incompetent man he is.
